"Maps in this game are soooo brutal" - Mini Podcast with

[@argentoAFK47]

It's a bit funny, "it doesn't feel like early access" because it has a lot content, true. But balance? Balance definitely feels early access. And it's fine, we've gotta give feedback and hope they shape it into place over the coming weeks and months. I agree on lowering respec costs during EA, it'd certainly would help with trying out stuff and lessen the sting of getting your build suddently nerfed.

[@donsaye]

For what early access means today... This game clearly isn't early acces. They did it to get an easy way out with a price tag and 6months of balancing.

[@midknightcrisis8612]

​@@donsaye define early access then and now. And elaborate why today's definition of early access is justified to use as a bar for each game's early access.

[@thatepicwizardguy]

The respec cost should be like half of what it is. Would still be pretty high but its too punishing as is

[@r3playyyy]

I just respecced HALF my build today for 250 (!) K Gold. Thats a whole day of grinding. I have free time, imagine what its like for more casual players. Its way too prohibitive for EA

[@Osiris57]

The respec cost is only part of the problem, you can still brick your char because of uncut gems and gear.

[@EwokPanda]

The dodge buff actually trivializes a couple of boss skills that are supposed to trap you with destroyable walls - now you can just roll through them.

[@clyp0001]

Just make the walls a bigger character size in those niche cases

[@Brillanty]

people complained what can we do about it

[@lorei1556]

Without the dodge buff f.ex ritual would be completely impossible

[@higherlearning9386]

Also the one boss you fight surrounded by guards you can roll into the guards and accidentally get stuck in them.

[@Luiz-qe7hk]

Just fix the walls, this is normal, you change something, something else bricks, nothing new

[@DarkBiCin]

33:06 - whats annoying me isnt finding the bases but the fact that the bases require so much attributes. im using "advanced" weapon and there is still a tier called "expert" above that. For the "Advanced Dualstring Bow" you need 126 dex. For the Expert variant ill need 212 Dex. I have taken basically only dex on travel nodes and pathed towards notables that give dex and im barely over 130. I cant imagine actually wasnting a bunch of suffixes on gear in order to stack to 212. and if I do I wont even be able get Str/Int meaning I can only use evasion bases and cant use certain spirit gems because I wont have Str/Int to be able to use them even at the lowest Spirit level. I think attribute requirements are to high and it makes it look like they actually want people to unironically roll "reduce requirement" to be able to use gear which is stupid.

[@destroyermaker]

Proficiency and Enhanced Reflexes nodes give you a lot of dex and Falcon Technique + Natural Immunity reward you for it

[@StardragonGER]

I kinda actually like that stats are more meaningful now and armor actually has stat requirements that take a bit of work to get to.

[@jasepellerin3350]

That mustache is looking solid, my guy

[@Sangomah]

Its nice of Ziz to let Tom Selleck play while he babbles

[@TheXan57]

very Assad-like

[@yoink3611]

a lil less gay

[@Doddleran]

I felt there wasnt enough artificers orbs in the beginning then I noticed that the lvl 2-10 vendors can have 1 or 2 socket items for like 25gold so I remade an alt and did the first 10 levels over and over purchasing socket gear from the vendor to dismantle. Not at maps yet so I can't say if it's better than endgame grinding though. But now I got like 15 artificers and I can easily fix some resistance if I really need with runes.

[@panzerswineflu]

How many alts did you do send how many exalts you get doing it? Was listening to a streamer level today and had like 4 in act 1, I got 1

[@Doddleran]

No clue bro, didnt do this farm for exalts...

[@panzerswineflu]

@Doddleran thanks, just thought I'd ask.

[@JasielMartini]

@@panzerswinefluI’m level 47 on a Witch, and level 8 on a Warrior and I’ve had 2 drop naturally between those two characters. People’s experience may vary.

[@Suushi870]

Level 28 monk on a2 and I've had like 6-8 exalts drop

[@dev.donner]

Idk I've had a really good time in maps. They even nerfed my cast on freeze build, but I switched to 1 cast on freeze and 1 cast on crit and it's insane against bosses. I went form being okay at bossing and okay at mapping to being a little less okay at mapping but an S tier bosser. Something feeds into itself with my build and all the sudden on rares and bosses I might have my entire manna pool instantly drain and 10-15 comets fall from the sky like a machine gun ever since the nerf

[@araen11]

Sigma. Instead of crying and whining improvise, adapt, overcome. Kudos to you, exile

[@Luiz-qe7hk]

Rare to find someone not whining about the nerf

[@Choclatecookieman]

sounds nice, what setup are you using for just map clearing?

[@dev.donner]

@@Choclatecookieman I'm using frost wall combined with eye of winter focusing on crit. I'm sitting at 44% chance to crit and good bonus damage. Eye of winter still feels very lacking for clear which is why I say that my clearing has slowed but it is made up 10x for the bossing aspect

[@wolvie90]

My first character was a cold caster Blood Mage, stumbled into the same build Pohx was doing. That character struggled hard in act 2 already to the point I wanted to reroll but I stuck with it and in late cruel it finally came together and felt great. Now that GGG has deleted that playstyle I've rerolled minion Infernalist and it's hilarious how easy the game is with a class that's good early on. My main complaint now besides GGG extremely heavy handed nerfing is how the game isn't actually slowed down at all, the game is the same as PoE1 it's just the player is vastly slowed down.

[@rafa4aquino]

I got to the 3 boss of sanctum as melee, but the gas cloud got half of my honour in 1~2 sec, 4 atempt Im thniking about to drop the game for now until I can progress

[@Watch_Derek]

I think Sanctum poison is bugged. I have 66 honor resistance and it took over 2100 honor from me. Watching the replay back it looks like I lost a little over 100 out of my 1900 hp but over 90% of my honor from just running over it for a second.

[@silentd9078]

Maybe aside from honour res, the poison cloud damage is affected by your chaos res as well? I know I didn't have much when I did the trial and my honour got chunked too.

[@rafa4aquino]

@silentd9078 sure, but I had 33%

[@aw2031zap]

infernalist is gonna get nerfed sooo hard. It's actually making progress in the game.

[@keithwinget6521]

Yeah, I am afraid of that. lol My summoner is popping off. Still feels kinds slow-going, though. The damage is certainly there if the minions don't rip. So...I'm built around fast revive, and still using the unique that gives 50% faster revive, and recovery when they revive.

[@brianm27]

Grim feast fixes so I would hope they leave it alone. I rolled a monk just in case but not looking forward to it

[@Syphirioth]

Probably. With warrior the struggle got real in like act 2. With my mercenary which i thought was OP it realy got nuked for Act3. Also becoming more and more a struggle.

[@joelhodoborgas]

Cant have people progressing in EA apparently

[@TreesPlease42]

14:00 agree with Steel, the campaign map is beautiful but hard to read. Also the atlas needs a search!

[@SoulxWeaver]

They seriously need to consider adding environmental cues and clues. There are a few maps where things are almost always in the same direction. But fuck me it’s annoying when you circle the entire map but miss the 3 pixel pathway that somehow leads to another half of the map, all because the fog of war reveal is like 5 feet

[@kkplx]

I have all 4+ ex value equipment now, and to add a new piece i have to re-buy several slots just to realign my resistances. Really fucked.

[@juozasmalaskevicius3634]

I will never say anything bad about poe1 and buy all the supporter packs to keep poe1 going. After poe2 I understood how much I love poe1. Poe2 has a very very strong foundation, but it needs a loooooooooooooooot of work to be fun. I wish best of luck to GGG, this will be amazing 12/10 game in few years probably. Poe1 really ramped up after 3.0. Something similar will be with poe2 but maybe faster because they have exp.

[@ziimbrotmg3981]

exactly my thinking tbh i strated to appriciate poe 1 even more after playing poe 2 ngl. But i rly wish they make it as good as poe 1 is after giving them more time

[@girthpapi]

As a PoE1 enjoyer myself, I pray PoE2 doesn't go down the same brain rot sperg blasting rabbit hole. No fucking thanks.

[@Sheph100]

I wish spirit gems dropped more frequently so you could actually experiment and choosing the wrong gem because you are new or trying out something isn't reroll-worthy.

[@Simonethedog]

but there so few choice that once you drop like 10 of them you dont know what to do with them. imo skill and spirit gems should merge together

[@soulstealer5625]

Hmm ill try banner. Nah dont like it, lets go herald. Wait no drop for 6 hours.

[@TheMasterblah]

Spirit gems are definitely rare early game, but once you hit act 3 you're swimming in lvl 9+ spirit gems

[@SoulxWeaver]

Skill gem drop like fuckin candy Support and spirit gems are MIA It also sucks because if you want to use an off class aura You HAVE to get a low level spirit gem. Which are super uncommon Or pay the ~6ex cost for a fucking Lv4 uncut

[@Sheph100]

@@TheMasterblah I can confirm this is not the case for me, I beat act 3 and have yet to get a non guaranteed spirit gem drop

[@dhaan5916]

Nice relaxed format as a welcome change to all the hyperbole drama of reddit.

[@AvaLynn808]

8:30 I've been playing ED/Contagion since launch and struggled so hard up until cruel, where I hit a wall. Switched to crit based Hexblast wtih Dark Effigy to stack poison w/ contagion on boss. It's not terrible, but chaos is just not in a good place right now.

[@thatepicwizardguy]

Ive been playing multiplayer with my friends who are brand new: 1- respeccing at 40~ almost made one friend quit permanently 2- reviving feels horrible and is almost impossible 2 players. 3- not being able to respawn when you die and are not in a boss fight is fucking garbage. 4- dying in a map and getting locked out despite having portals is giga terrible and makes them want to quit forever 5- trials for ascending were horrible and almost had them quit Basically theres a ton of stuff that just makes them incredibly unhappy and honestly im in the same boat. Some of the ascendancies also just suck ass compared to others

[@icki9695]

Number 4 Is serious. It's making me really frustrated. Like oh I look for an expedition map - I do it - die to one mob and now loose everything. It drives me mad.

[@Capitan_Captain]

And that's why you go to the forums and post it, to improve the game while being on early access/beta.

[@Possu81]

Interesting people looking for reasons to quit them game. Most of the points can be solved with dying less.

[@soulstealer5625]

@@Possu81wow incredible advice

[@Luiz-qe7hk]

Just dont die

[@SitKid721]

Playing Poe 2 feels like working a job they really took all the worst parts of Poe and doubled down

[@pierrenoel6878]

I also only found out yesterday about the 20% lightning resistance in the campaign

[@psiblades2002]

Ha, I only found out about it from this video. Missed the full 20% on my char. Thanks Steelmage and Zizaran for pointing this out!

[@Lancer78x]

lol... I leveled Warrior for first time through act 1 and finished in less then 2 hours for act 1 with no deaths. The trick is you socket just your 2h Mace auto attack, it was hitting for 1k dps at level 6 and all my other skills was hitting for 200 dps, Was so easy. By act 3 I was one shoting the whole screen of mobs with my warrior using mace auto attack.

[@Selmeister15]

The downside of warrior is that its not a great mapper. Good boss killer for sure! But not the fastest nor the smoothest to farm with.

[@raven_knight_076]

Mfw I waited 5 years for poe2 to "fix melee" and the best way to melee is fucking default attack lmao At least they fixed melee in poe1, for however long that game has left.

[@alucard92717]

​​​@@Selmeister15 herald of ash, socket basic attack, stampede, or leap slam with armor break on heavy stun and armor explosion on armor break, +aoe gem optional. If your mace is strong enough you WILL instantly pop packs and you can save your big slams for magic and rare packs. (Basic attack has performed the best doing this for me)

[@reivelt3715]

this means you get lucky with the rare roll. sometimes people do not get 100 base damage weapon at lvl 1

[@JamieR]

I spent 30 hours to get to cruel and struggled SO much as a cold sorc. Time to reroll, lol.

[@jasonma4525]

For respec skills points, just show the original respec cost cross-outed and make it 100% off, like -2000- > 0. Easy fix

[@gaspara9817]

They should just give out one time use full reset items whenever they do the big nerfs.

[@sjolson68]

Kripp's take that the plan for PoE2 was test-drove during Ruthless in PoE1 is spot on. I'll never understand having a sadomasochistic mindset around game design. Challenging is definitely a good thing, but to compel all players into that doesn't make sense from a design standpoint, especially with all the history in PoE1. Dark Souls was very challenging but deterministically learnable with time and effort - not massive layers of RNG and tuning keeping you from beating x.

[@martinzyka6432]

the souls games throw solutions at you left and right, and early game is easy to learn

[@andrenc3681]

Kripp's take was not spot on at all. This is the foundation they needed to start off with. People are so quick to forget what poe was like in open beta

[@sjolson68]

@@andrenc3681 I remember full well what it was like but that was literally building it from the ground up - not about balancing and design decisions. The point here is that they have over 10 years of experience and it's a fallacy to make the argument it should be just like PoE1 was at the beginning.

[@Luiz-qe7hk]

Krisp missed 80% of his talk, all the things he was whining about were literally a skill issue, something being badly designed and you being bad at the game are not the same, hes old, its normal for you not to be able to compete with newer players, the crazy thing is that hes playing minions and complaining. + He plays poe1 for years at this point and things that are CLEARLY badly designed in poe1 he likes, hes being blinded by nostalgia, and wants poe2 to be the same as poe1

[@chase1443]

@@Luiz-qe7hk you definitely didn't watch krips video

[@xheapshot3325]

The reason why lightning arrow is better then spark firewall is the multipliers you can put on spark. If you increase Spark's duration by 20%, thats a 20% dmg buff. Increasing fire wall bmg attribute is a (x) multiplier per spark you send out which is multiplied by the additional projectiles from the lvl. Some things will scale very well later game. Just how the game works I think.

[@Uphold-your-Rights]

They need to remove the resistance penalty after some acts. It was annoying in POE 1 and it's annoying now.

[@goldenducky12]

Thanks for that in the beginning now im +20% lightning res also (they really gotta change that icon and make it more visible)

[@williamreese7828]

Same, I've been pushing into tier10 maps and didn't realize that until just now. Still not res capped though.

[@andrejohannessen5465]

Were is this light resi in act 2 ? What zone and what i look for ??

[@andresrodriguez9841]

yeah like a white shiny outline on the icon for thins you're missing would be great

[@soulstealer5625]

@@andrejohannessen5465spires of deshar (same area as boss big skeleton guy). Its a statue u click.

[@SoulxWeaver]

@@soulstealer5625no shot I have literally 5 characters at Act3 or beyond and I’ve never seen that one

[@jbaris]

Yep - I'd really love flame dash and quicksilver flasks - that's my two biggest issues

[@vincelot86]

Bosses should feel like bosses. I don't like how they are getting deleted by some builds in an instant. Maybe not all of the bosses but most of them.

[@_Freariose]

Why does every boss in the campaign need to be annoying though? Most players spent their time in the endgame, so those bosses should be the fun challenging ones. I only need to get through the campaign to get to the fun part of the game after all.

[@getoutofmylobby4347]

This is not the game for that. Its an ARPG. The ENTIRE purpose of ARPGs is becoming so powerful everything dies instantly. This wont change and with content creators, these builds will always spread like wildfires.

[@ziimbrotmg3981]

that is exactly what will happen and should happen in arpgs its the whole point of the game to get loot and get extremly strong

[@1979ce]

Love the 'while playing casual interview' more plz

[@Privater_Petrie]

i do not like the fact that you kinda have to look in every shop every lvl you get .... its feeling like work idk

[@nerdedkyle3515]

Sewing ultimatum if you get the chimera you can choose that boss fight if you're a mercenary like if he lands down low you walk up top and just throw grenades down as soon as he flies away you walk back down low and then as soon as he lands you walk back up top rinse and repeat

[@vladislavkouchnarev1227]

The other reason respec costs are so high is because that's part of the test. GGG has a vision, but they don't know if the playerbase will accept that vision. It needs to actually test this system, to see if people will adapt to it, or if it hurts retention, or if it needs to be reduced.

[@jdhogfan1]

Right? Right? Right, right? Damn, enough already

[@atroce6244]

If you're playing HCSSF, you are not automatically assigned to global 1 (in my experience). You have to manually join global 1. That's the reason why you don't see anyone talking in global.

[@soyerthefirst]

Man what a pain getting those resistances straight though 😢

[@alexandermahler5404]

steel mentioning the 20% lightning res thing is huge, i would never have seen it otherwise

[@vicarofdibly]

Watching this I discovered I missed cruel lightning res, picked it up in normal without even realizing. Thanks! Also discovered i missed the 20 flat hp from act 1 normal, ha!

[@therealsillybastad]

Whats the best place to leave feedback for ggg?

[@ziimbrotmg3981]

probably forums or reddit

[@gnome_de_guerre]

For the charms, u need to be able to self hit. Sort of the jar of worms sort of solution in poe1

[@Gelonyrum]

HC will be so dead with this act length and map size... I'm currently on HC SSF and there are no people in the chat, literally zero.

[@Jipooki]

Understandable. Have a nice day.

[@raven_knight_076]

Womp womp

[@wyatt5167]

In all fairness it's EA and week 1 I plan on making a hc character but not until after I play almost everything and maybe not until after full release. Considering that they're doing big changes + characters don't transfer over makes it feel like there is no point

[@stuff4812]

I mean it is the least popular mode and a new game with unknown fights. Nobody wants to keep trying hardcore just to potentially die to every new boss and reroll.people want to experience the game without making new characters every time

[@jpeg.jordaan]

1st thing i do is turn off general chat so xD

[@ryanforgo3500]

@ 3:48 i actually did not go through any of that, i've had insane defense and clear and above average single target damage vs bosses ever since i entered maps. i just think people should start looking very well into items. there are some insane units for someone who just entered maps and they are already cheap for example. personally i was being carried by a unique body armour and max block and giant's blood

[@synoxify]

i rly wish they would start buffing under perfomring spells, so we get an idea of what they want to balance around, right now with the nerf only policy it feels just like "the fun police"

[@jacobmaccharles7468]

It’s been a week my guy

[@icki9695]

I totally agree with this. It's literally just less fun. If you think it's too strong make some content harder. Allow for more juicing.

[@FlashlhsalF]

@@icki9695 You want Powercreep less than a week into early access? Really dude?

[@EvoDocs]

@@icki9695and it will became a shtshow just like Poe 1 endgame. The underperforming builds are probably much closer to what they want. If they would just keep buffing builds and the endgame content we would end up just like Poe 1… and this game supposed to be different

[@Simonethedog]

they dont buff to much because if they have to nerf something then people gets mad

[@dims4627]

The problem I'm having rn on my witchhunter is I started getting insta deleted on t9+ and I don't have any tools to fix this. I could redo my passive tree in poe1, right now I can get like +20% armor :| It's ridiculous in ritual and breach, especially in ritual where you don't have any space, you don't see any ground effects because the whole floor is covered with monsters and there's some bullshit wave of blood that also pushes you

[@soulstealer5625]

Bosses are great but 100% on the tools not being provided. If loot is shit and u cant gear, well shit

[@Syphirioth]

Yep this is the major isseu I keep having. Great xbow lvl 26 on my mercenary. Not being able to find a better one and my dmg is getting alot lower realy fast now at lvl 36. I might hit wall again. Cause I realy not lucky with drops. Same happened on my warrior in ACT2. I might shelve this game soon.

[@soulstealer5625]

@@Syphirioth I bounced off my starter sorc and merc by act 3. Got this monk to maps tho at least

[@tthompson5707]

Other than a gold sink why is respec costs a good idea overall? I think encouraging people to respec and experiment will help the game over instead of people getting stuck in a build and rerolling characters (different class = new character, same class = respec) You still have to get gear for a new build

[@mitchellsink2584]

I am playing a Ranger/Lightning Arrow. I went Pathfinder to see how well it would work, and it feels very underwhelming vs. Deadeye. The concoction is not good. The best thing is the increase to movement while shooting.

[@RotGodKing]

The map isn't the best. Sometimes skulls are flashing but they are greyed out so I've already done it. Some of the stuff is over pillars on the map so you can't see it either.

[@Krult]

I think im the only one who did Ultimatum instead of sanctum. I mean the mods were kinda unfair, i get that. But at least i dont lose the run to 1 attack from a multi proj poisoning rare i have to kill. I was in the 3rd part and lost 2800 honour in 1 attack on that, holy hell was that stupid.

[@retikka]

Only done sanctum Floor 3 few times as monk and it all comes down to farming +honor resist, +max honor relics. Currently have +100% max honor and 120% honor resist which makes it doable if you don't get f'd by choice of 3 bricking afflictions.

[@JasielMartini]

What do you mean by farming relics? You mean running the mechanic multiple times even if you fail to get relics to drop? I’m asking because Sanctum is ….. well, it’s my least favorite mechanic… and that’s putting it mildly and having to farm Sanctum just to get my ascendancy… well, it’ll never happen tbh. Sanctum is just not fun. I’ve never completed a single on in PoE.

[@swiftbow2110]

I have only leveled one character and I feel like i did an entire league in POE 1. Don’t know if that’s good or not but I feel done until updates/changes. Only 4 of 8 ascendancy points achieved 😢. Hate Sanctum and Ultimatum.

[@olelarsen1386]

I'd missed the lightning resistance in act 2! Apparently I got it in Cruel 2, but not the first one so thank you for that!

[@damkina_ina]

Ultimatum is fine imo Bigger issue is sanctum - if you aren't playing an evasion based build you're prety much not gonna kill the floor 3 boss like - ever

[@FabledLife]

Having a blast in hcssf maps. Played blind from day 1 and only one death so far. The campaign is amazing! Love the zone sizes and exploration. Cant believe there will be 3 more acts!

[@MatthewFletcher-iy4fn]

Is there a guide available for build he's currently using in this video?

[@SlamDance87]

Create corpses spell would be a great places to start for witch on fixing all the problems

[@mariosnork8785]

I feel like part of the issue is people having set expectations because they come from PoE1. Why is having capped res such a big deal while early mapping? I got to tier 9s without having capped res and I'm not even dying to elemental damage most of the times, not paying attention to on death effects and Phys area attacks is what kills me most of the time.

[@miramichi30]

I'm playing lightning arrow/lighning rod, and bosses don't die in 20 seconds. Blackjaw was quite hard for me.

[@EdManMarkPerson]

Personally i think the finding passives etc on the side is fine. It's optional content that you have to invest some interest to find, not some essential story driven mission you have to do. Adds to time in investment. Too many ppl want all it handed

[@DannyRhym3z]

I wish shields were worth it. I hate the fact the game is balanced around the dodge roll. I want to create some ultimate beast of a tank, making use of active block but it's simply not worth it other than on a couple of bullet hell style bosses. Really needs to be counterattacks

[@andrenc3681]

Shields are super worth it, passive block is still a thing you're shield doesn't need to be raised!

[@SeeThat92]

@@andrenc3681 He is talking about bosses one shoting you if you dont dodge roll. In POE 1, you can build a character thats tanky enough to handle all uber slams, seems in POE 2, you cannot.

[@hadrianblackwater9848]

I wonder what I am doing so wrong with lightning arrow and rod, since I keep hearing is super op, and it takes me 5+ minutes with the bosses. Even more with friend in co-op...

[@DogMan3]

I missed that stupid lightning upgrade the entire time as well. I only saw I was missing it when a streamer pointed it out. That is poorly placed, and anything like that should be a quest requirement, or tied to bosses you cannot miss.

[@lenoobpwner]

They also critically need to change the uncompleted/completed color of icons on the world map. That or make it so that once you complete an icon, it crosses it with a red cross. Right now I'm having a hardtime seeing which ones are completed or not.

[@DreadNoughtus01]

Can anyone tell me where the lighting res mage is talking about is? I have -10 in act 2 cruel and don't remember finding that

[@reninngun]

I like the look of mustache Zizz! Don't know what he thinks about it but I think he should stick with it for a while.☺️

[@Blargosaur]

Does Ziz know about the hooded one identifying items? I see him using id scrolls

[@Syphirioth]

I like the boss fights. But what I dislike is the windiws of ooportunity you barely getting to attack. So anything that is not you but does damage works lot better. Which is minion. Totem. Dot. Grenades. Etc. For example with grenades you can roll and evade and throw those down without aiming pretty much. Any class that need attack directly and has not a zillion damage will have way to little time frame to do attacks.

[@TXIIILightning]

12:20 I heavily disagree about the respeccing and gold costs being to "set expectations. Because, honestly, what are they setting expectations and preparing people for exactly? POE 2 is going to be a Free2Play game, and people playing the game right now have paid 30$ or more. This isn't some Early Access Beta for a game that you're going to pay LATER. If you don't like POE2 later, you can just not play it. It's like the argument here is reversed. Having free respecs has no downside in EA, since if it costs gold in the full release, that's simply how it is.

[@Yursa_Luna]

I was so surprised to hear people weren't liking ultimatum. For me, I absolutely hated Sanctum. Like I hate sanctum in PoE1, but PoE2 felt even worse to me. But on the otherhand, I been absolutely loving ultimatum. Even if some of the choices are overtuned a bit

[@midknightcrisis8612]

It's a preference thing really, I enjoy sanctum a lot more than ultimatum. Much less RNG, honor + pathing choices give me vibes from my slay the spire experience. But I can also see why ppl don't like it.

[@stoplosinglilboy1461]

Yes ultimatum is what I want honestly just super hard dungeon screw this honor mechanic

[@Uphold-your-Rights]

I was hoping they would create new ideas and not reuse old mechanics. Many of us from poe1 have a love/hate with certain mechanics already.

[@HDGaminTutorials]

I just don't like how long they are.....they take like 30 to 45 minutes

[@darthelmet1]

My thoughts so far: (I'm playing a warrior atm and I'm near the end of Act 3 struggling to do the last bit.) - Basing the game around dodging damage and then still putting in typical diablo ARPG style enemies is stupid. I can't tell what's going on outside of boss fights. It doesn't feel fair to be taking this much damage from swarms of enemies with overlapping attacks and a bajillion particle effects. - Even post loot buff, I'm still feeling pretty stuck on loot. I've been using the same weapon since some point in Act 2 through 2 new bases being available because I can't find or afford to craft a better one. So all the suggestions people make about how to have an easier time are kind of meaningless because I can't actually get the stats I need. Part of what drove me away from PoE 1 was how the game felt awful to play SSF because they wanted to force people to trade. Crafting felt pointless because you got so little currency and it was so risky to use the currency to do that and maybe fail when you could just buy what other people had and get a sure thing. Part of why I bothered to check out PoE 2 was because they talked about making crafting more accessible in PoE 2 and... I guess that's technically true... I've gotten more exalted orbs during the campaign than I've gotten in my entire time playing PoE 1. However, it still just feels like it's not enough to meet the demands the game asks of you. I feel dumb spending tons of resources crafting an upgrade only to level up a few times and start dropping a new base which I have no means of upgrading. I don't think I'm wrong for using the currency earlier because otherwise I'd be getting wrecked, but it really doesn't feel like I can just find or craft upgrades on any consistent basis and I'm wondering how long I'll put up with that before I either give in and trade or just quit. And if I do decide to trade after having wasted a bunch of currency crafting, I won't even be able to buy anything. - I'm simultaneously really jealous of all the people playing real characters but at this point I'm kind of in too deep to want to reroll and I really want to get to play with the double big bonks with giant's blood. But man that feels so far off.

[@yournamethere123]

"they can call this early access, but its truly full release" my brother in christ, only 1/3rd of the ascendancies are in the game and only half the classes. just because a game feels good doesnt mean you can just throw the 'early access' tag to the wayside.

[@Victus_Mortuus]

Mapping is awful in this game, wonder how many people will keep the desire to play poe2 once they get there, it's not a chill experience people have known and loved from this brand of arpg.

[@Mulukkis]

Like Kripp said, this game has no chill.

[@Traylon]

I think instead of nerfing builds (excluding outliers like supercharge slam and recently autocast comet), buff bossess

[@bappo2693]

High cost to respec discourages any kind of experimentation and creativity. I don’t understand the argument that it’s cost should only be low in ea. Go grind gold for 6 days straight to get a chance to be creative for 25 minutes

[@pulsss]

can get enough gold for a full respec in an hour or two of mapping. tf you mean 6 days

[@andrenc3681]

​@@pulssspeople love to exaggerate, it's so stupid

[@lostgunman8684]

Haven't jumped on the game yet. Still waiting for a lot of "bugs" to be fixed. Once I hear a bit more of the game is stable and the major complaints have been updated/fixed. I'll buy in and play the early access. I figure it'll be another month at least.

[@andrenc3681]

You're so missing out

[@lostgunman8684]

@@andrenc3681 yea...I also have a few dozen games to catch up on. I feel that it's good for them to work out server issues and stuff before I jump on.

[@sNNNNNable]

Even with all the bs the one life per map is so bad. I enjoy HC for what it is but the reason I don't engage with it much is because I end up avoiding so much content that could rip my char. And now I have that same feeling in maps. Just avoid every league mechanic I see until I've traversed middlearth with Frodo to find all the rares

[@nbraun80]

Is there a difference between Annul and exalt and just using the new chaos orb?

[@iceberg232323]

Annulment is strong with the new omens. They should help crafting in end game

[@Last_Feanoring]

lvl 81 and 3rd ascendancy. I'm finally capped my res on tier 10 map :D

[@synoxify]

not to worry once you hit red tier maps they are gonna be uncapped 👍

[@-moon5809]

Why? Is there another res Penalty?​@@synoxify

[@r3playyyy]

​@@-moon5809yes, another 10 %

[@SeeThat92]

@@-moon5809 Yes, You get additonnal res reductions ont t6+, then even more on t11+, It's such a bad design, i had just upgraded all my gear, with runes adjusted to reach cap. Then I enter a T11, and i'm all under cap again. Just one more frustration added to the huge list this game gave me...

[@VinzentV-e7g]

tbf I think the respect cost is harder than in poe1... if you have currency you can just afford respecting 100 points like you want to.. getting gold to respect whole tree on poe2 which would be like 500.000 or more is just ridiculous.

[@фанатКуплинова-ь1е]

People say it's only one hour of map farming

[@luckdrivenluu6429]

I can't even complete the campaign, i never played poe, or any arpg. I just end up getting stuck somewhere in the campaign and can't survive

[@joelhodoborgas]

I really like the RNG craft in poe2, i always enjoyed back in poe1 early days, im glad poe2 is more like poe1

[@josha3312]

I'm actually pretty bored with mapping RN. The endless loop of IDing possible bases just to pray-slam and fail is not fun.

[@jpeg.jordaan]

Dont know why people bitching about melee. Im leveling a witch and i have to run away from mobs all the time to not die where as melee i just kill shit while being hit

[@mcgruber]

Witch is ez mode.

[@SkillRampage]

How to check if i got all the permanent buffa from the campaign?

[@wiseasaserpent.2961]

i have been running full chaos witch with zero minions and ive been doing fine.

[@joelhodoborgas]

53:00 Yeah build diversity is feeling like diablo 4, they chose 1 or 2 viable build per class/archetype and you gotta use that or else youre not progressing.

[@Last_Feanoring]

boss fights write now for me is 5 seconds :D. Jumping mobs and reflect mobs, beaches chaos aoe blowing - only one that scares me :D

[@Hydrapass420]

thanks to this podcast i now have 20 more ligbhtning res

[@chantzgnad88]

I have right at 100 hours in...I tried to make this work in its current state, but I truly can't (without trading for everything) make a plan fora build/combo and get it strong enough by endgame or even mid campaign. It's even much more glaring on the classes that are undertuned or get "OP" skills late. Example is getting warbringer to 50 picking up every weapon using currency to hit plus levels and even tapping out gold after multiple farming hours stuck being farmed over and over. I have only 1500 hours or so in poe1, so I may just be an idiot when it comes to out of the box thinking...but if this is even the foundation of how they want the game to be played, it's certainly not for me. I am fine with trading for an item here or there to "fill a hole", but I enjoy the progression of finding or making upgrades aside a character that also grows in power. Neither of these are present with the low amount of drops and the fact that all skills and "links" are rng drops. Just a lot of the systems implemented seem very flawed for my playstyle.

[@thesunryze4658]

You should know that there are guaranteed skill / link drops in the campaign. For the rest of it, I hate to break it to you but it may be a skill issue indeed. Plenty of people are playing warbringer and litteraly deleting bosses. Totems, autoattack (yes), sunder, armor breaker + armour explosion with hammer of gods for single target etc... there are many powerful warbringer setups that don't require much to get going.

[@jpmra28]

Damn, Steel really can't finish a sentence without saying "Right?"

[@johanschneider4802]

To be fair, we knew maps were going to be the least balanced. I have high hopes still! 🙌 Now I’m not in maps yet so we will see if they manage to fix some of the problems before that🤔

[@JamieR]

I wish they'd make Ruthless difficulty optional and scale back the difficulty of the campaign. I might be in the minority here, but it's too much imo. Granted I lvled as cold sorc and have only had that experience. It was not a good one. It was more work than Elden Ring, Bloodborne, Dark Souls 3. I don't really want ARPGs to be that difficult. Some might love it though 😂 Having some optional bosses really challenging would be fine though.

[@hansbansor5170]

Good point to put the difficulty to optional bosses you can come back later. I think thats the main point why high difficutly works in elden ring a lot better, because you have A LOT of optional stuff to do when you get stuck by main ones. Still, for me the difficulty is perfect and a great motivator. Maybe enemies should be less spongy with their health but that might be a build issue. Its hard to balance that out across everything.

[@wildesanity]

28:50 what about cooked life?

[@quincestopher8892]

For the gold charm there is usually a deatg animation for the bosses before the loot drops, even for rares ive noticed maybe thats why not every mob can be rare and the charm works after death but before loot. Cause charms seem to work after the hit not before

[@entropycat]

23 min in the video before I realized why Ziz looks so unusual:)

[@11ELFs]

I agree so much with the statement that the game is most enjoyable when you dont know stuff.

[@jimmylm9894]

I wonder if they know about the 16% max hp

[@Steven-t8h]

Ziz morphing into Magnum PI with that tash.😂

[@TH_ANDY]

I got to maps played about 6 more hours trying to get gear to map. Still die to random white mobs. Game is not for me. Poe 1 next league gunna pop off. Sad part is I love the graphics and stuff but games is way too different. Feels like when I played ruthless.

[@andrenc3681]

Sigh. It's EA EA Game will vastly change in the coming months. Why? IT'S EA!!

[@yvoi1153]

​@@andrenc3681people Have Different Opinions Than You It's Going To Be Fine

[@ziimbrotmg3981]

@@andrenc3681 buddy saying its EA when devs have 12 years of experience tons of feedback and all the time to sort things out is not a good excuse, they just kinda gave away ppl that were core fans of poe 1 in the first place atleast thats my feeling, we are just left hanging out here kinda sad cuz game looks amazing has great skill effects/graphics overall, but graphics dont make games legendary the gameplay loop does.

[@JtotheDoubleL]

if they keep nerfing everything until everything is a struggle to play, no one is going to continue playing the early access, ESPECIALLY if respecs arent free.

[@pr4zaVIDZ]

Apparently I was missing 20% fire res hehe

[@typoko]

Oh, they did nerf stuff indeed. Not just what people expected.

[@SuliXbr]

I had zero issues in maps