Zodiac: Unnerfed vs Nerfed - Geometry Dash

[@TheIndispensableOpposition]

0:52 woah what a huge and significant nerf

[@soggyboi]

it fixes the transition

[@Aquwu]

@@soggyboi still looks goofy asf

[@dirhi]

ikr

[@baconmonke]

it makes a difference, if you go too low youll turn to cube and slide on the slope and die

[@TheIndispensableOpposition]

@@baconmonke I'm aware it just looks silly

[@jojo._.586]

2:03 the fact that TMN had that timing at like 60% in a semi-approachable top 1 is crazy

[@marblecat779]

Same with the ufo click later in his part

[@Naka-wc3yo]

thats like sakupen circles tight lol no wonder it was nerfed

[@Arc_VAL]

Its semi auto

[@jojo._.586]

@@Arc_VAL its semi auto now, you can see in the video that those portals weren't there in the unnerfed

[@Naka-wc3yo]

@@jojo._.586 I can’t really tell if the portal is part of the nerfed or not cause they are both blue

[@Demonic_Pulsar]

Zodiac is the definition of harder than it looks

[@sirusjohnson109]

Actually, I did a practice run on this level once to see how hard it is, and honestly, maybe I got really lucky, but I got through it really quickly. And it didn't feel THAT much harder than your typical extreme demon. So I'm still struggling to see what makes it so hard.

[@necreiP]

@@sirusjohnson109 i hope that this is a troll

[@sirusjohnson109]

@@necreiP I mean, YES. It's significantly harder than most extremes, I just don't see what makes it top 10 in difficulty. I even got through a couple of parts in practice mode in just a few attempts (after figuring out what to do) The main thing that gets me is comparing it to Bloodlust. For me, both visually and in practice, it just doesn't seem any harder

[@necreiP]

@@sirusjohnson109 hardest check

[@Regoshi]

@@necreiP it's 3 minutes long, thats why

[@ranrhy7196]

0:40 why the hell did they nerfed the dragon?

[@asianhuang]

They didn't, it's just offsync

[@n7x]

Animated objects are usually not aligned in these kind of videos. You can see it with green/black orbs and gears as well

[@marblecat779]

Yall don’t remember when the dragon made that straight fly a sea of frame perfects

[@KaotikCokeGD]

serpent

[@ijavixgm4644]

1:08 Zodiac unbuffed

[@yammez1]

TMN legit expected you to do those wave timings. And even after the nerf it's still the hardest part lmao.

[@Dangerous-Kobe]

Yup, Shock's is also a pain in the *ss

[@moosoose4661]

There was also random straight fly in tmn

[@yammez1]

@@Dangerous-Kobe Which part is shock's part

[@yammez1]

Oh the dual cube part

[@yooo1153]

This zodiac is like top 3

[@gobble3860]

Even in this black and white version, Samifying's part is still good-looking.

[@okaycoolokaybool]

which one is sam's part?

[@gobble3860]

@@okaycoolokaybool at 1:52

[@superigg_]

his block design is like 50% blocks with hitboxes lol

[@Fanro3]

I read it right at this part

[@592Johno]

@@superigg_ I don't get it

[@ThePoisonJelly]

2:47 that click made me pause the video and go PogChamp

[@Vision-ky7ew]

I'm so glad this was nerfed. It was necessary.

[@TheGreenViewer456]

I can’t see what is going on .

[@PanzerPanic]

@@TheGreenViewer456 The red spike on the top off the roof makes it nearly a frame perfect at that part

[@TheGreenViewer456]

@@PanzerPanic it’s fast and I literally can’t see much bro

[@acur0ssu]

​@@TheGreenViewer456 you're slow

[@superprobablylevel]

You should experiment with comparing 3 or maybe even 4 versions of a level. For example, Sonic Wave Infinity. You could compare Mycrafted's version, Rori's version, Sunix's version, and Xanii's published version. The color scheme would be R,G,B,Y ig

[@capybarasarecool3915]

good idea

[@dubblebubble67]

i want to see this, i know sunix and rori buffed a lot

[@mirza6961]

Sounds good, but wouldn't it be a rainbow mess?

[@saladman3915]

I feel like working out blending like that could be a pain

[@RealMephres]

Would be too convoluted, better not. The idea sounds fine, but the execution would almost always end in a mess.

[@Naka-wc3yo]

The reason unnerfed zodiac is much harder than nerfed is because a lot of these are transition fixes, which switch bad transitions to better ones, and bad transitions can make a level significantly harder, along with lots of luck factor, and along with the two chokepoints being removed(2:03, 2:47) it went from potentially top 1 to this day to #17 unnerfed is around acheron difficulty iirc

[@Jheody]

Wasn't zodiac when released top 2 or am I incorrect?

[@Naka-wc3yo]

@@Jheodyit was top 1 at one point it was above crimson planet. Top 3 at the time was 1# zodiac, 2# crimson planet, and 3# bloodlust What I meant by potentially top 1 was potentially top 1 to this day

[@Naka-wc3yo]

@poof definitely

[@zShadowGD]

I honestly think the unnerfed version is below Firework in difficulty. Yes, it's true. The transitions makes it much much harder, but it's not as hard as you described it to be.

[@risyadxmi443]

​@@Naka-wc3yo Good times

[@nooneyouknow239]

Give it up for LeTim[GD], making us aware of levels that we didn't know were nerfed in the first place.

[@TomGD]

Pennutoh’s part when it’s unnerfed, god that’s scary.

[@bobbylmfaohi2946]

there is litterally one spike added to the part lol?

[@TomGD]

@@bobbylmfaohi2946 no, there's 2 since the wave part is tigher with that big spike

[@bobbylmfaohi2946]

@@TomGD SUCH A BIG DIFFERNECE

[@bryantofsomething5964]

Which part is pennutoh’s?

[@bobbylmfaohi2946]

@@bryantofsomething5964 2:39

[@exiled_shadegd]

Unnerfed got verified NO WAY

[@skyler948]

??

[@DOROHEDOROFAN]

@@skyler948 Unnerfed got verified

[@DOROHEDOROFAN]

@@skyler948oh u piss me off

[@skyler948]

@@DOROHEDOROFAN ????????

[@DOROHEDOROFAN]

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[@HandheldHandle]

Almost nothing is Nerfed at Start Except for some Few Detail that are Nerfed

[@p0zhh]

and this details makes level harder in 5 times

[@Sparks2490]

What?

[@zzyunogd]

I had a stroke reading that

[@arandomcoolguy23]

Ikr

[@woxq.]

It Isn't A Book Title You Don't Have To Capitalise Every Word

[@not_paraballa_guy]

О, спасибо, никогда не замечал, чём именно он нёрфнут

[@startpowxr]

0:54 ah yes, buffed when its nerfed

[@Naka-wc3yo]

nerfed versions of levels get buffed for balancing

[@estefauwu]

2:07 i think why creo add this taps

[@MapleclawGD]

Considering how few and far between these nerfed are they probably did wonders for removing choke points throughout the level

[@UltimateMastee]

It looks like such tiny differences but the levels are 50 spots apart on the demonlist

[@gokuzx123]

The Fact that this got verified is insane

[@LeonGeht]

Actually it got with hacks verified but still insane that two beat it without hacks

[@gdstar6917]

​@@LeonGeht ??

[@LeonGeht]

@@gdstar6917 it got not legit verified but with hacks but still there are two that beats it legit after it got verified

[@zaineoakley5555]

@@LeonGehtyeah that was ages ago But the unnerfed version get verified recently

[@drgaming9113]

@@LeonGeht bro woke up from a coma from 2016 💀

[@NoHacksJustCold]

The unnerfed version just got verified

[@Peggen10]

You Can’t Go Wrong With Zodiac❤️🎷

[@ItsLux1211]

This Just Makes Me Want A Zodiac Remake That’s Harder And Uses All 4 Minutes Of The Song

[@kiaragarcia1998]

0:09 very significant change, thank you for nerfing that so the level is easier

[@LINK-is3oc]

I wonder if unnerfed zodiac is even close to the golden or even swi difficulty

[@matteo964]

Regular zodiac already is...

[@LINK-is3oc]

@@matteo964 harder than tart?

[@matteo964]

@@LINK-is3oc yeah i don't remember who but a top plauer said so 2 years ago

[@tiramisu7544]

Unnerfed is close to AoD & silent clubstep difficulty The official rated version falls just short of being tartarus difficulty and it seems like some people think it’s easier than Kenos and even cognition (Trick and Bgram)

[@moosoose4661]

@D K. It's quite a bit easier lol

[@bmmyes]

you can immediately see what part is samifying's (minus gameplay)

[@uuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhh]

wait why does the layout almost look cooler than the actual level

[@skyrrmish6207]

Cuz u a fan of black and white

[@ШакшабаевАртём]

Зодиак не так уж и сильно нерфнут был, единственное парт тмна и пенутоха это мясо, ещё брейк первый тяжелый

[@RazZer34]

Most of these "nerfs" just seem like fixes or similar. Are you sure that the level got nerfed?

[@shardrygd]

Look at Pennutoh's part

[@RazZer34]

@@shardrygd Just a fix to chokepoints? As I said I have no clue lmao

[@tiramisu7544]

Yes and no. It got nerfed, which fixed the level’s issues. According to speedymuffin, Zodiac was almost Abyss of Darkness/Silent Clubstep difficulty, and the whole level was way buggier and less optimised for framerates (other than 144 fps)

[@unistealth]

These are more of a "before and after" kinda things

[@RazZer34]

@@tiramisu7544 yes

[@gdnolife5002]

one of the last good top demons

[@Trietdm116]

I think the last good top demons are around Tartarus and The Golden era

[@yajtubeteevee1677]

@@Trietdm116and arguably tidal wave

[@Trietdm116]

@@yajtubeteevee1677 Tidal just bad dude, it just unique cuz beach theme thats all

[@yajtubeteevee1677]

@@Trietdm116 i would have to politely sak to agree to disagree (if my english is bad it's bcuz of me being filipino)

[@yajtubeteevee1677]

ask*

[@zhabiboss]

Ah yes that one ground spike that you can’t even get to was definitely a needed nerf to the first part

[@nero1701]

Kenos evolved in Slaughterhouse, Zodiac evolved in Firework

[@irian3x3]

i still think zodiac is more fun and better in decoration than firework though

[@espectador-]

nope, zodiac evolved in abyss of darkness

[@АневризмаГоловногоМозга]

@@irian3x3 💀

[@Naka-wc3yo]

@@АневризмаГоловногоМозгаits their opinion

[@roman_esentuk]

​@@irian3x3better in decoration💀💀💀bro you literally preferred gauntlet type design decor over conceptual masterpiece

[@zombieboyxx]

how does a song made so long ago sound so dam good

[@beqr3736]

Unnerfed tmn 💀

[@TrionerExpeliozias]

Even with minimum deco this level could still be rated

[@sinllantas8686]

Sabiendo el esfuerzo q es hacer estos vídeos debe de ser una desgracia ver qué apenas hay nerfeos para mostrar en el video

[@yomeencontreaherobrine5147]

Quizas es porque si vas a buffear/nerfear algo no lo haces haciendo algo completamente nuevo, solo agarras una estructura y la borras o la haces menos estrecha

[@alphapig2242]

1:09 zodiac buffed???

[@asderoookrook7002]

Го Calculator Core следующим, у него ненерфнутая версия в ILL стоит выше тартаруса, хотя я разницы не вижу

[@халапенье]

разница минимальная, но сложности прибавляет намного больше

[@xxcoolgamerx4927]

Theres a very subtle difficulty comparison between the nerfed and unnerfed version, it makes ut seem like it barely got nerfed.

[@shrekiscool4743]

the difference in difficulty is massive

[@virtueschan]

Tmn's part carries like 40% of it's difficulty and harder than aod hardest part.

[@Naka-wc3yo]

timestamp?

[@virtueschan]

@@Naka-wc3yo 2:00

[@Naka-wc3yo]

@@virtueschanthat wave timing is literally sakupen circles tight lol

[@Spod1s]

in the middle of a long ass level aswell

[@scrilleridash]

It's not that nerfed, I thought it was very difficult in the unnerfed version.

[@dc5260]

Unnerfed was verified like some days ago and its at least top 10 lol

[@exiled_shadegd]

It’s very nerfed lmao, these unnerfed parts make it so inconsistent

[@Hexagon234]

I never knew a tiny nerf would make a level harder than slaughterhouse downgraded into the golden difficulty.

[@henrikklingner2690]

This was one of the best Times in gd with zodiac top 1 kenos 2

[@marwinsytxd0_o]

Bloodbath and cataclysm better than this unbalanced garbage

[@skyrrmish6207]

@@marwinsytxd0_obruh I love cataclysm but the og version has that free ship part right after the insane wave and even has that free wave part at the end 💀

[@marwinsytxd0_o]

@@skyrrmish6207 yeah

[@IkukGD]

0:52 Why are there always some random nerfs like this

[@akril5674]

Персонаж бы разбивался при переходе. Это было бы очень неиграбельно

[@IkukGD]

@@akril5674 I dont speak russian

[@hewenty]

@@IkukGDhe said it fixes lucky based transition

[@IkukGD]

@@hewenty Ok thank you

[@howitzrrrr]

When I see this channel all I think is, why is everything nerfed

[@nebnoobgeometrydash1524]

Because nobody could beat something harder than firework and maybe aod back then lmao

[@Allegiance92]

0:06 HOW IS THAT A NERF

[@plunkus]

The sawblade? It's two peices of footage, and sawblades always spin randomly, they just aren't aligned

[@mikedevrblx7776]

Ya se cual va a ser mi primer extreme 🤙

[@SrMessier104]

XD

[@JwertyKasd]

mi primer extreme va a ser Silent Clubstep 🥶

[@WAOTARKINISTAN]

How did you get rainbow color

[@LeTim]

texture pack

[@Naka-wc3yo]

@@LeTimwhat is the name of the texture pack?

[@TwitterChannelOfficial]

@@Naka-wc3yo geometry dash

[@dirhi]

the only top 1 where i can do the first orb

[@ceciliatan576]

Zodiac infinity by Zylenox, RicoLP, TrusTa, Onnikonna, Surreki, Bianox, TrueOmega, Codex, AbstractDark, Shocksidian, Juhou, Dz3ser, NikroPlays, APTeam, Failure444, ChiefFlurry, Terron, Pennutoh, SlimJim, LeocreatorX and G4lvatron. Logo by Nasgubb.

[@ceciliatan576]

Hacked by Varium.

[@ceciliatan576]

Run run

[@reyboy4944]

я напоминаю, это раньше был топ 1 демон

[@халапенье]

ладно

[@Ketgetdude]

Топ 11 сейчас

[@Kost41]

Nice glitch effect 👍

[@silliestgoober69]

for anyone wondering 2:40 is what acid looks like

[@LscottGD]

Lmao

[@Jamack2010]

1:51 2:01 2:09 2:11 2:39

[@Trocked2000]

why did you need to nerf the saw in the blocks, it cant kill you bru

[@Yusuketh443]

i want to do this but it wont work :c

[@Xir0ck]

Good video :)

[@DarthSkril]

Didn't tmn used to have this random straightfly part?

[@the_worst_rhythm_gamer]

damn this looks almost not diffirent

[@moosoose4661]

This is one of the biggest nerfs to a level in history in which the unnerfed was actually a serious thing that was supposed to be verified

[@Naka-wc3yo]

@@moosoose4661 the unnerfed version could probably be top 1

[@lebj6349]

@@Naka-wc3yo unerfed is verified

[@Naka-wc3yo]

@@lebj6349 “1 y ago”

[@Naka-wc3yo]

@@lebj6349 ik

[@DarIsANoob]

more like : zodiac but you actually get whats happening

[@MichaelNwabuko]

Zodiac looks like a harder but in reality it is way harder.

[@Xyndernox]

i wouldnt call this "nerfed vs unnerfed" as barely anything changes to make it noticably easier, a better title would be "Zodiac: Unbalanced vs Balanced"

[@tiramisu7544]

Zodiac is implied to be a level that originally was impossible for players not using 144hz. You can’t neccessarily see it in this video (and I don’t even know if the uploader of this video is using EndLevel’s unnerfed Zodiac version as the “unnerfed” overlay) but according to speedymuffin some of the wave and spider transitions (like 22%) used to only be possible on 144hz. Small changes like that actually add up to make EndLevel’s unnerfed Zodiac borderline silent clubstep/new aod difficulty

[@badger8798]

@@tiramisu7544 its top 2-3

[@tiramisu7544]

@@badger8798 Top 2 AT LEAST. Have you seen the 144fps frame perfects in EndLevel’s Zodiac?

[@badger8798]

@@tiramisu7544 yeah i know, i literally said that it was either top 3 or top 2

[@dirhi]

why is this funny

[@Fehrex]

Idk what unnerfed version did u use but the actual unnerfed is around aod difficulty

[@jojo._.586]

This is around aod difficulty probably because of random chokepoints (ex: 2:03; 2:47)

[@Naka-wc3yo]

@@jojo._.586 4 months late my bad but there are also a lot of transition fixes

[@2k_iRiS]

just got verified !

[@Cheesy-z7o]

Im from the future someone veryfied this

[@yean4573]

i'm from the now and it was verified like a month or so ago

[@shadowduds]

am i the only one that cant pass 21%? the doubles are broken?

[@tiramisu7544]

The transition is broken for framerates that are multiples of 60. On Endlevel’s Zodiac, you have to be on 144fps for 22% or else you automatically crash.

[@shadowduds]

@@tiramisu7544 thats so random wtf

[@shadowduds]

@@tiramisu7544 I played it on 144 fps and I still crash

[@tiramisu7544]

@@shadowduds 22% is one of those timings where you have to be really specific in previous inputs, or where you place your start pos. As said, it’s broken on framerates that are multiples of 60. And on 144 it’s buggy as well and a huge choke point as a result. It’s not your fault dw. Unnerfed Zodiac is just unoptimised really

[@zod1acgd]

My Favorite Top 1

[@Alexadndr]

интересный факт: мы можем видеть то, что летим не юзал гд бот!

[@LeTim]

почему

[@Alexadndr]

@@LeTim ну ты смотри, если красного оттенка не видно, то движение в двух уровнях одинаковы, если красный оттенок появляется и немного отдвигается, то движение изменилось!

[@LeTim]

движение немного разное из-за смещенных препятствий и из-за чуть отличающихся макросов для обоих версий

[@kionlf]

I can almost hear the ICarly in the chorus

[@StapXStep]

i don't understand how 1:09 and 2:42 are nerfes, it's just tighter and 1 spike *added*

[@diegolastra3639]

It's because these showcases don't literally show the nerfes of the level. Rather, they show the original version compared to the rebalanced one (that usually contains nerfs overall, but might have little buffs or fixes)

[@Naifkopi]

music hits hard

[@nickxd5096]

это кстати та самая музыка, под которую я строил уровень BEBRA

[@халапенье]

аннерфед до сих пор топ 1 по сложности, на 42% 3 144фпс фреймперфекта.

[@gammavalentin7]

топ 4

[@kakan_gd]

its bassically the same exact level

[@imjustwhisper]

wait, zodiac was nerfed? -._-.

[@thatweirdowindy614]

Zodiac is very honest

[@soyunzapatojajaxd4584]

Wait, Zodiac was nerfed?

[@synkloites]

almost every level gets small changes from the person verifying it, it means levels have better gameplay and less bugs and annoying things

[@ddddanx4]

Do unnerffed vs nerfed cataclysm

[@IsThisReallySomeone]

I see more buffs than nerfs

[@Zepyrus-l9z]

aw yes, NERF THE DETAIL GEARS

[@boxyygd]

it's not nerfed, it's just off sync

[@Zepyrus-l9z]

@@boxyygd This comment was made 2 years ago how did you find this?

[@boxyygd]

​@@Zepyrus-l9z magically

[@Zepyrus-l9z]

@@boxyygd Damn

[@TemploDelSaber]

Most of the changes are saws and orbs that spin in the opposite way lol

[@Kaiwala]

No, watch the how to make video on his channel, those are just products of making the showcase level

[@aphztic]

@@Kaiwala this comment is made before the "how to make comparison"

[@Kaiwala]

@@aphztic I know that, that doesn't make my point less valid.

[@espectador-]

Can't tell if this is serious

[@StapXStep]

zodiac doesnt need to be buffed. Nerf is cool

[@kyoaDV]

yeah it needed the endlevel ver is harder than slaughterhouse

[@StapXStep]

@@kyoaDV yeah it was when i was like "nerf is to make the level harder" cuz i'm not a native english, i need to improve my english, sorry...

[@EfreetSP]

I think is zodiac with 10 things nerfed

[@duk8227]

Still looks easy, wtf. Zodiac is probably insanely hard but it doesnt look that hard lol.

[@trueffetbysyqual]

Yeah, looks like a hard demon

[@duk8227]

@@trueffetbysyqual i played it in practice mode and i have up at 8 because of a dumb timing lol.

[@thecorrurtion215]

The underfed version looks so easy, yet it’s stated to be as hard as silent clubstep

[@codexcursors]

Harder than it looks tbh

[@trueffetbysyqual]

@@thecorrurtion215 damn I would get a 0% on that

[@ThunderlightDominatesGames]

I didn't know that Zodiac was nerfed

[@yooo1153]

Yeah unnerfed version is around aod difficulty

[@Nxbulah_]

Harder​@@yooo1153

[@justjakee118]

IS there a way I could make my GD look black like this?

[@GeometryCroks]

"there's red" counter ×idk

[@ausse1976]

Даже не знал, что он нерфился

[@Requiem-fhdd]

Wear 3d glasses

[@unusuariodegoogle1806]

same same but different

[@ĐăngNguyễn-f5h]

whats unnerfed? idk

[@user-universalmaster.]

A Nerf is to make a level easier, unnerfed means it’s the original difficulty.

[@david_varela_pt]

where the tmn funny

[@Mrstruggles553]

Zodiac but tiktok

[@isjxbbhewh]

не влияют.

[@anhnguyenthinguyet516]

bạn có phải người việt không

[@LeTim]

нет

[@aphztic]

@@LeTim he's asking if you're vietnamese or not

[@stargazer8g2]

@@aphztic he said no

[@synexiasaturnds727yearsago7]

Mr. Worldwide

[@Giedek03]

sigma sigma

[@denelectroenderman07]

обожаю creo - sphere

[@marcusestilosRebirth]

48 buff

[@gempykstanarchive]

not big difference

[@Naka-wc3yo]

the nerfs are much bigger than they look

[@Spod1s]

play it it feels about 3 times harder then actual zodiac especially tmn and shock

[@interestinghandle739]

Currently, Zodiac is barely in the top 50 This old version of Zodiac is allegedly comparable to literal Acheron in terms of difficulty Pretty big difference imo

[@ZKTHE1STT]

Im gonns be so real. Zodiac is no were near as hard as ppl say it is

[@nebnoobgeometrydash1524]

Im gonna be honest, you are wrong. Chokepoints make it very hard to tell if you dont actually beat it.

[@ZKTHE1STT]

@@nebnoobgeometrydash1524 Yh the length and unbalance makes it a lot harder but honestly I don't think it's harder than things like Kenos

[@nebnoobgeometrydash1524]

@@ZKTHE1STT the reason its harder isnt that the raw gameplay is harder. Its above kenos because it has more/worse chokepoints and most of said chokepoints are much further in the level than kenos, which is extremely carried by first and 2nd wave which are very early in the level.

[@ZKTHE1STT]

@@nebnoobgeometrydash1524 yh that's true. Maybe I just suck at wave

[@mhxb]

​@@nebnoobgeometrydash1524Congratulations buddy