Zomb-ristocrat Massacre ⚫ Standard MTG Gameplay & Deck Tech | Innistrad: Midnight Hunt | Magic Arena

[@MrShinyObject]

Can't believe someone was playing skeleton tribal. It wasn't just the swarming, they had the death priest, too! Was that Richard on the other side?

[@shadowisp]

Been trying to make Dimir zombies work... but this looks way more fun. Normal zombies are just too fair. =p

[@kittenclanclan]

Was cooking while I was watching this, occasionally just listening with my back turned and thinking to myself, "Ah, Seth, always mispronouncing things, but 'Champion of the Perishe*d*' sure is a weird one. No. Wait. That's a new card." Over and over again.

[@bigtimetimmyjim6486]

Probably my favorite deck on the this channel in the past...3 years? 4 years? It has been a LONG time since I enjoyed an MTG video this much, this deck is so fantastic!

[@MTGGoldfish]

Glad you liked it!

[@TheCardq]

Since you're already splashing blue for negate i would add poppet stitcher and malevolent hermit somewhere. Also you should attack with your decayed zombies any time you know you're going to sacrifice them to an instant speed effect.

[@harveyswan5645]

What would you replace to add poppet stitcher?

[@virtueofabsolution7641]

I agree and I would probably go down ebondeath or probably lolth. Ebon is good against scute and controlling so probably lolth. The issue seems to be that this deck struggles if it can't find massacre, especially as a legendary, so flipped poppet factory would give it a more "solid" endgame in that your zombies are huge and can block and rumble multiple times. Lolth drew some cards and made some tokens occasionally, sure, but didn't really do anything poppet couldn't do better and more cost effectively as if poppet tokens can serve as finisher you don't need lolth draws to dig for massacre nearly as bad.

[@guessthatsitthen4982]

You don't need to full control with decayed zombies, simply setting a stop works aswell.

[@keep7smiling]

Thank you, I didn't know that!

[@guessthatsitthen4982]

@@keep7smiling No problem, it's the easiest way I found to do it so figured I'd let people know since Seth said you needed to go full control. Honestly whichever is easiest for people is what they should do.

[@bigwig8657]

Tbf deadly dispute, the treasure ghoul and the 3 drop dwarf that makes treasure is 12 green sources for a 5 drop with a single pip.

[@adamfiliatreault3393]

Gield of Guin! That blast from the past gave me the biggest smile today. Guess who's watching an old Commander Clash tonight? This guy!

[@JulianHernandez-tn5gu]

What episode is gield of guin from? People mention it all the time

[@adamfiliatreault3393]

@@JulianHernandez-tn5gu I don't know the number, but it was alphabet soup when Vince was part of the crew

[@JulianHernandez-tn5gu]

@@adamfiliatreault3393 thanks!

[@adamfiliatreault3393]

@@JulianHernandez-tn5gu Always more than happy to steer people to some of the best content on KZbin :) .

[@jesseshexton7602]

One of my favorites scenes in my favorite movie INTROING for my favorite magic channel. Papa Bless.

[@cloysterd]

Once again I am mystified at how Seth manages to queue against all these different decks while I play against nothing but Goldspan Dragon all day.

[@MTGGoldfish]

I've found that low mythic is the best place to be on Arena. At low mythic you're not really competing for top 1200 to quality and don't have a reason to play tier decks to try to hit mythic, so there's a lot of experimentation (also I accidentally recorded the first couple matches in unranked, which might also be part of it).

[@dac2007]

@@MTGGoldfish I get matched against low mythic a lot and there are people that somehow ended up in the 80s% playing tier 1 decks

[@Jewstafario]

Just a suggestion if you're splashing blue specifically to counter alrunds epiphany, rather than negate, test of talents would work wonders

[@ruben-han2615]

The intro's are back !

[@eliisaac]

Gooood damnit that second game where you had 2 village rights but just kept using skullport to sac and draw... Like dig for less mana and more draw.

[@TippettRugby]

agreed, no point in saving the village rites if you're gonna die next turn...

[@eliisaac]

@HughesClues on the opponent's he could have cast one a dug a bit deeper. But yeah I see what you're saying

[@mrknarf4438]

Saving resources is good... Unless you're dead on board 😅

[@ChaosForce08]

40:15 I believe this is a missed lethal with a Hive of the Eye-Tyrant attack. Opponent can block 5 damage at most (Hive + 1 non-menace creature) and exactly 6 gets through.

[@piralos1329]

Opponent can block 3 things, let the hive through, and only take 5, so it's not a missed lethal. Would put the opponent to 1 though, and cost them a lot of their board!

[@ChaosForce08]

@@piralos1329 Incorrect. Seth has 2 non-menace creatures and 3 menace creatures (2 Spiders and Hive). They have 3 blockers.

[@dirtydeeds4free553]

Putting clips of the movie that haunted my childhood along with jeepers creepers is bold of you Mr editor

[@savagesnadgaming7252]

I've used this similar strategy with Tend the Pests on the big 4 drops from Strixhaven, then next turn meathook for 1 to kill my pests and drain the opponent out. Super fun deck! Love the video SO!

[@adriendelplace8755]

I love Lolth a lot. I'm a free player on Arena so I'm building decks very slowly and only playing best of 1 but she's very good in my orzhov witch deck. I wish we had a non mythic blood artist like Bastion but grinding out creature decks and winning with a big starnheim unleashed is quite fun. (I can't beat Izzet epiphany but best of 1 is mostly creature decks) I buy a lot of actual cards so I'm not paying for digital ones too.

[@Esphandiarinia]

Lolth is so good especially on a budget! The package of eyetwitch/shambling ghast, deadly dispute, skullport merchant, and Lolth can make any B/x deck solid

[@adriendelplace8755]

@@Esphandiarinia yes it's a good shell to build around. I don't play merchant as I play the Witch instead (pest tokens+plumb the forbidden)

[@Esphandiarinia]

@@adriendelplace8755 I’m curious about the new mythic Poppet Stitcher w the witch, seems like they could make a good token deck together if you could protect the stitcher until it flips, but I’m not ready to craft them yet.

[@trecoulson1]

I played a scute swarm opponent last night and massacred them after they had gone off and had over 100 scutes on the board. Seeing all the triggers go off and gaining that much life was amazing to see lol

[@jenius00]

Not sure I'll get to watch the whole series. Did Hostile Hostel ever have its moment? I can't think of a better deck for it, but so far it looks way worse than a swamp or another creature land.

[@ChaosForce08]

It did virtually nothing

[@gamedragon3706]

Functionally, it was a wastes. It transformed once, (57:10) in a game that was already lost. To be fair though, it turned into a creature more times than Hive of the Eye Tyrant, the other creature land.

[@ChiefLibrarianAhriman]

Love that the intros are back

[@jjzwak]

This is the deck I've been waiting for!

[@itsallenwow]

Meathook Massacre one of my favorite cards in a while I think. It's versatile, and you could even play it in a bounce deck would be interesting.

[@RasmusVJS]

What would you use as the 15th sideboard card, since the deck only has 14?

[@Ghost26968]

36:30 Lair of the Hydra is bugged, lol. It has been reported a lot since it released, but updates keep breaking arena so I'm sure its low on their priority totem pole.

[@sazger]

How so?

[@andyl7677]

I'm not sure about the Skullport Merchant. There's the 1/3 that lets you draw a card a turn whenever another creature dies on the same spot on the curve. There are plenty of ways to sac stuff already, and you can go off so early that not spending the mana for the draw might be really good. Maybe I'll go 2 and 2 and give it a try.

[@fishpastethe4th340]

Hell yeah! Ive been trying to build one on my own so I would love to use this!

[@BoshiYoshi]

These decks lately have really made it obviously how painfully stacked the mythic rare slots in MID are. Meathook Massacre, all the Adversaries, Wrenn and Seven, Arlinn, probably Teferi, Poppet Stitcher, Moonveil Regent, Hostel. Absolutely brutal for Arena players to have this many playable cards at mythic level.

[@bigwig8657]

Arlin and teferi are both borderline unplayable in standard imo. And the advesaries are incredibly overated for the most part. Most of that list are trap cards imo.

[@wookieesden3133]

Mythic is easier than rare for a lot of us because all the lands sit at rare.

[@Anonlyso]

As a black centric semi-control, some-times aristocrat kinda guy, Skeletal swarming has been an absolute nightmare whenever accidentally tap out in Ft1s. I do suggest if you wanted a "cleaner" pure black deck you could always run Feed the Swarm, since that's still a kill spell AND hits enchantments (sorcery speed does hurt a bit) and like usual any enchantment/artifact is Black's achille's heel. Honestly always love Meat Hook Massacre not just being a scalable board wipe (also kills indestructibles too) but this deck really proving my dreams truth of running an aristocrat friendly board wipe. At the same time it's also way too much seemed to be the entire foundation of the deck (no real cheap blood artists out in standard, maybe a Dreadhound if you're really desperate). And yeah the whole "welp I can play my entire low mana hand but if my board is wiped without a proper card draw or sac-draw I'm gonna sit around for like 3 or 4 turns" is the real pain of aristocrats. Some times it just feels like a real in-efficient aggro when it's going bad (at best you can go tall on Perished or maybe sneak in Ebon but also with how creature-centric the meta is it just lacks good ways to break through), but when you get your engine running you got an almost impenetrable wall with meathook not just wiping but threatening more damage for every time the opponent tries to kill your wall of creatures. Really kinda wish there was some more "true" mono-black way to take down either control or enchants or really any good artifact/colorless splash instead of just "pour in 4 negates", maybe a duress which is still kinda eh if it slows you too far down either in tap mana or just a bad late game draw, but that's the black life I guess. This is still the dream deck I wanna build when I grind out a whole new set of wild cards (tho that's if the Nov expansion doesn't add any other new fun black cards).

[@jessedorval7051]

Ok that intro got me 😂😂😂😂😂😂 I thought that it was like an ad for a new movie or something lol you got me Seth you got me

[@caseyrobinson375]

Here's my idea for a black deck it's called infinite combo black and it focuses on the infinite life and destruction combo with exquisite blood and any when you gain life opponent loses life triggers

[@PierreBoutry]

Is it a meme that there are only 14 cards in the sideboard? :P

[@ConMan-bx1rk]

Bit of an intense intro. Love it!

[@kallinblackburn717]

If you’re splashing blue anyways why not use poppet stitcher instead of jadar? You can chain multiple copies of village rites and deadly disputes with it, plus it gives you an additional wincon in the late game with the factory. It also just seems better in the deck than ebon death

[@MTGGoldfish]

When I first started messing around with the deck it had Popper Stitcher, but I didn't find it very impressive in this deck (we don't have *that* many spells).

[@guessthatsitthen4982]

Seth always stealing my deck ideas. Glad someone does

[@TheLiverpool1818]

Perfect shirt for this list!

[@dakotalambert7583]

hey seth i found a super sweet super original deck and it has taken me from silver to high plat 1 with maybe 3 losses the whole time i would love to send you the list

[@virtueofabsolution7641]

Amazing. I haven't watched goldfish (or played standard) in several years and I randomly think man I wonder if my pet archetype aristocrats is a decent deck and here it is immediately. Nice only sad thing is outside of Dreadhound there's no true Blood artistin the format. Omg I'm dumb meathook massacre is an *enchantment* ? Oh shit

[@MTGGoldfish]

Welcome back!

[@ruudvanlaarhoven5776]

Skeletal Swarming would work in the deck, because decayed will always trigger for extra skeletons

[@alexmasters23]

this deck is UNDEADLY

[@cheezman22production]

I think Seth has finally gone from saying "Hey its Seth probably better known as saffron olive" way to fast, to way to slow. It's been quite the journey

[@tristanstevens7221]

53:10 Couldn't you of played the Adversary with "kicker" and then Eaten Alive on Liesa before attacking?

[@CupOYerba]

Maybe Feed the Swarm for enchantments? A little pricey in life, though.

[@codelicious6590]

Texas Chainsaw Massacre is one of the few horror films that have actually caused me fear.

[@MTGGoldfish]

Yeah, agreed. Most horror movies don't bother me, but the original Texas Chainsaw Massacre is really unsettling. Even just things like the van scene, which isn't really horror at all, is really unsettling.

[@winssports4830]

Watching control die is probably my favorite thing in magic lol.

[@mnjesu]

Nice frigging opening. 😆😂🤣

[@guessthatsitthen4982]

I think dramatic finale could be ok in a shell like this too.

[@phoebesnow7142]

If you're running blue for negate in the SB why not put Alrund's Epiphany in SB too?

[@PGFXKiu]

This is dope. I like this a lot.

[@Anfibiustv]

That sweet moment when you can see a control deck been owned by a black deck 🖤

[@bigwig8657]

8 sac spells, 4 meathooks and then a lot of 4 and 5 drops(like 10) since advesary is pretty bad in this deck on 2. As well as your 3 drop only really being a sac outlet, and your 1 drop being a snowball zombie. Cool idea but needs a lotta work to work as an aristocrats deck.

[@credoakinuchi1364]

Funny thing, when I think of The Meathook Massacre, first thing that comes to my mind is actually The Midnight Meat Train, rather than The Texas Chainsaw Massacre. 😂😂😂

[@16burns]

I think I heard 'budget deck'... lol nice one

[@forgottonpast6847]

Zombies?! I’m in!

[@colinbrown5646]

13:13 Why was he using the creature's ability to sac when he had Village Rites in his hand?

[@swolegolisopod7340]

Archon of emeria

[@bigwig8657]

Archon out and he needed to find and cast hook, and archon only lets you play 1 spell per turn.

[@MTGGoldfish]

Yep, Archon locked.

[@bigwig8657]

Hostile hostel coulda eaten the liessa that you lost to in the yard if you flipped.

[@bigwig8657]

Cool intro, what anime is that?

[@benlittle5543]

Meat puppets the band shirt for a zombie deck tech. *nods

[@SuenteusPi]

shipwrecked mao-ursh 1:18:13

[@adamhathorne3658]

How about Zombie Massocrat?

[@CSDragon]

The editor memes have returned

[@emiliasmith5561]

15:33 Inscription of what??

[@briangordon7585]

Dat intro

[@sOlOnOmO11]

God I love this deck ⚫️🧟‍♂️

[@1slena]

Uh oh we getting meaty

[@andymccoy8393]

Does Seth use the effect of Hostile Hostel once the entire vid?

[@Lectical]

Yeah

[@MTGGoldfish]

Maybe exactly ones.

[@BenOrBreak]

I see Standard had not yet learned that Meathook is a maindeck 4-of 😅

[@mostlyholy6301]

I hate the foretell mechanic so much, it makes black's hand disruption worthless and forces monoblack decks like this one to splash blue.

[@harperarida9061]

big missed opportunity not calling this deck the Texas Brain Saw Massacre

[@bixlorious]

What is the UI at the bottom left of the screen??? Seems a bit sus

[@NStripleseven]

hm

[@MTGGoldfish]

It's untapped.gg, it's main value is that it tracks all of your arena matches/records/deck changes, I guess the land percent thing on the bottom of the screen could be helpful in some way, but I'm not really sure how.

[@johnconner7813]

I used meat hook in a pest build

[@UploadFromHell]

Man AFR gets no love except from sideboards, where's the Wight?

[@rodrigodepaula4198]

You got like just because of the meme intro.

[@trashherink2306]

Wow my wildcards are gone and I haven’t won a game …..

[@TheRedGauntlet]

Scute massacre lol

[@grevious9816]

Massacre me, Daddy Seth

[@tyharmon7614]

Yeees intros

[@Bloodfire83]

I can tell you didn’t really play AFR limited based on your feeling of dread about Skeletal Swarming. You just need to leave back a pair of blockers and Skeletal Swarming becomes a 5-mana-do-nothing card.

[@drdomvondoom9265]

Meathook Massacre was seths porn name in College

[@jasonmalin1010]

I wish they reprinted zombie alchemist.

[@ROKWULF]

I honestly don't watch standard videos because you don't make it friendly to export to arena

[@MTGGoldfish]

If you go to the video description there's a link to the decklist that exports to Arena in a click, but if that isn't enough maybe I'll start adding full export info into the description as well.

[@KnobbyGnome]

Poppet. Stitcher.

[@ShadowWalker-ng1it]

Downvote for no leather face in the deck

[@thecrazycapn]

"Zombristocrat" is an awful portmanteau.

[@charlied8284]

It's HOTEL! Not hostile hostile... it's HOSTILE HOTEL!!! Lol

[@guessthatsitthen4982]

Its hostile hostel...

[@christiaandijkstra2050]

🤦🏼‍♂️

[@reconstructionmanifest7349]

Im so sad I got excited about Innistrad just have simic trash decks take over again with extra turns and counters. MTG would be so much better if blue was deleted

[@TheREALIzludez]

the algorithms for arena are terrible. why are magic players flocking to this system ? Wizards has built their program specifically to screw the players while making them heaps on money. Such a predatory system they have built....

[@poiri]

How so, what specific algorithms screw people over and on what grounds? And how does this supposedly make them more money?

[@TheREALIzludez]

@@poiri What benefit is there in defending companies being underhanded? The goldfish channel has already highlighted some of the flaws.

[@poiri]

@@TheREALIzludez I said nothing in defence, I simply asked for evidence or examples of that underhandedness and was provided none.

[@TheREALIzludez]

@@poiri On what grounds can you demand for evidence while in the same sentence state you're not trying to white knight. My statement asks for you to watch some of the videos on the channel and decide for yourself.

[@poiri]

@@TheREALIzludez that makes no sense, ever heard of innocent until proven guilty? But whatever I'll lower myself to your level. For the sake of argument let's say I am stalwartly defending them, I still see no algorithms that screw the players over. The economy isn't great I recognize that but that's the only real issue I can find with arena as a client. So now that I am totally 'white knighting' answer my original question or your complaints hold no merit.