Zoom LiveTrak L-8 mixer | FULL REVIEW

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David Shanhun

David Shanhun

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@RichStranger
@RichStranger 2 жыл бұрын
To reiterate: THANK YOU for YOUR TIME, EFFORTS & expertise…
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun 2 жыл бұрын
most welcome Richard - thanks for the message!
@__Rob
@__Rob Жыл бұрын
You said it has no master output EQ but what does it have for per-track EQ? Does it have virtual tracks for bouncing overdubs when you use it as a recorder?
@rjbullock
@rjbullock 4 жыл бұрын
Good God man, back off from the camera! You're freaking me out.
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun 4 жыл бұрын
hehe yep - my bad! 🤦‍♂️
@SpiritOfTrboule
@SpiritOfTrboule 2 жыл бұрын
Well, after quite some pain with Headphone monitor outputs, I got a couple of SB-5 DI boxes from Radial Engineering and it works perfectly also with Jack -> XLR. It's also possible to do it with other DI boxes, but this one really shines as it allows for summing L/R channels to single mono XLR or you can plug two jacks to it. I use that combo to bring sound to our JVC camera (XLR only input) at correct level. It seems the monitor outputs are preamped for headphones, so it's way too strong for other uses. DI box solves that.
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun 2 жыл бұрын
Andrej! Thanks so much for suggesting this gem of a DI box. great solution to this issue and the mono summing option is also brilliant!
@fpham8004
@fpham8004 Жыл бұрын
Better than zoom own videos, I have to tell you.
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun Жыл бұрын
thank you :)
@sjpachica3
@sjpachica3 4 жыл бұрын
You and Grant Stinnett's review on this L8 are the best on KZbin right now. Yours has more detail and technical info but also very practical. His is very use case focused giving examples of how he has and will use it. Thanks again for this vid and the performance vid!
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun 4 жыл бұрын
ah thanks so much Shane! Got two more videos on the L8 coming out today and tomorrow around multitrack recording with it - do you have one?
@sjpachica3
@sjpachica3 4 жыл бұрын
@@davidshanhun No but it's next on my gear purchase list. Going to use it to keep all of my instruments hooked up in my home studio as an Audio Interface. Also going to use it when my buddies come over and jam. Also going to use it in a live looping setup with drum machines, bass, guitar, synth etc hooked up. It's such a super versatile piece of kit. I look forward to watching you new vids on it!
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun 4 жыл бұрын
@@sjpachica3 sounds like lots of fun to be had! 😊
@timothymarkprice9907
@timothymarkprice9907 7 ай бұрын
Thank You! With LIVE Streaming and performing LIVE, can u send the main mix to your iPad/Phone while simultaneously sending the same main mix to FOH?
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun 7 ай бұрын
yes you can.
@Pharesm
@Pharesm 3 жыл бұрын
So, by now, I've actually bought one - in part thanks to your answer about the AKG 712... - it arrived this week...! So the L8 manual states, that the Master Headphone out will put out an identical signal to the master out. (going directly to active speakers in this case) So how come my speakers on the master-outputs are getting signal, but the master headphone-out is getting nothing? And I've used consoles since the 80's. I have an SQ-5 and getting along with it... what am I doing wrong?? Starting to wonder if I got a defective unit? I tested that headphone and cable are good. Thinking you might be the most likely one to know, since you've covered lots of details on this unit :D . As for my first unboxing impressions: I hate it. Plasticky, flimsy and the USB driver for PC sucks - it doesn't list up the channels - its just an in-transparent blob. I want to route PC audio to USB 3+4, i.e stereo channel 8, there is absolutely no way to assign that. Driver update from Zoom? nada. Gravely, I think all the controls are just held by their soldering joints and will not hold up, unless you keep it in a box full of cotton balls. But for battery powered, there is nothing else except MixPre 6II (which is more cumbersome to operate) and Behringer Flow8, which can only handle 2 condenser mics. (wish Behringer had aimed a bit higher on that, like 6 condenser mics for $320 instead of 2 condenser mics for $220 - because otherwise it would be a much better mixer than the L8 imo) Oh yeah and I forgot those Zoom Field recorders, with the same shitty plastic build. I'm not railing against plastic in general - Some other companies simply use higher quality plastic (Tascam, Sony) ** I'd say that you have to be damned sure, that you really need it battery operated before buying that. ** At least one, maybe both of the other Livetrak units have a metal housing, I think. Was it the L12 and L20 or only L20?
@thewaxbirds
@thewaxbirds 3 жыл бұрын
This looks awesome! You have definitely helped us with choosing what we need for our next steps forward regarding live and streaming. With the livestream mix, is it possible to set up an ambient moc like you suggested, have this in the mix to the phone but not front of house? Regards and thanks again ☺️
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun 3 жыл бұрын
hi The Wax Birds! Yes - this is totally possible to do - we did it with a livestream a while back at a venue - not an ambient mic but another dynamic mic that was purely to chat just for the livestream. To do this you set up your main mix, as well as Mix A (or B or C etc). The one thing to remember is that the main mix is what gets sent out of the TRRS cable on track 8 - so if you want the ambient mic going to your phone include it on the main mix. The downside of this is you need to run your speakers and FOH from one of the headphone outputs and either daisy chain, or what we did was run that signal into another small desk and then into our FOH. Also - when you switch mixes to set it up - change the fader level for each mix instead of using mute - mute applies to all mixes. Hope that all makes sense - reach out if you have further Q's etc.
@Pharesm
@Pharesm 3 жыл бұрын
Your very first point about the headphone cabling issue - Does that mean AKG 712 Headphone users are prevented from using their Headphones, because the ONLY input to those is a mini-XLR connector - which is really great, because if you ever mess up your headphone cable with those, you can just plug in another one - no trip to the repair shop, no trip to the cellar to get out the soldering iron...
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun 3 жыл бұрын
great question but no - they are the exact headphones I use and they work great with this mixer. The mini-xlr connector you mentioned is the connection TO the headphones which can be anything (depending on your headphones). The other end of the headphone lead which will go into the desk is a 1/4 or 1/8' trs jack which plugs straight into the desk. Cheers for the question though.
@Pharesm
@Pharesm 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidshanhun awesome, much thanks for the answer :) Those headphones are indispensable to me. I bought Waves' "Abbey Road" virtual speakers/studio plug-in just to use with those headphones, where ever I have no speakers...
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun 3 жыл бұрын
@@Pharesm ooh don't know this plugin but use a few of the waves stuff. Might check it out!
@Pharesm
@Pharesm 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidshanhun kzbin.info/www/bejne/e6bIl2uoqbqMnJI :)
@DJMichaelKhoury
@DJMichaelKhoury 2 жыл бұрын
Hello everyone, curious if the monitor outputs on this are powerful enough to run as actual stage monitors and for subs, etc. I know they say monitor for headphones, and know that sometimes the actual outputs are built for just headphones and not speakers. Any advice is appreciated!
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun 2 жыл бұрын
hey Michael - these outputs are just built for headphones not a stage monitor/speaker. I have worked around it running these out into another desk then into a monitor - but I have another small desk that I can use to solve the issue. A couple of people have mentioned getting a mono summed cable that can solve the issue also - so might be an option for you. Otherwise the LiveTrak L-12 has proper monitor outputs.
@ItsaCatsLife
@ItsaCatsLife Жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this, David. There are always caveats no matter which multitrack mixer/recorder you look at. I would have preferred more hands on & views of the L-8 rather than your up-close face to be honest, or at least further from the camera - but I managed to get through the video due to the invaluable information. Cheers from Oz.
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun Жыл бұрын
hehe this is the most common comment tbh. Feedback received haha!
@BeatTheCasino
@BeatTheCasino 3 жыл бұрын
I stream Live on Stage 10 I have tried so many times to use this mixer but I get everyone on headphones, speakers on there end turned down so no way the signal is getting fed back through the mic, but I cannot eliminate the echo on the recording. We do not hear it when we are broadcasting. I am going to go to a simple interface like Focusrite or Presonus if I cannot find a solution Any Ideas? Thank you so much
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun 3 жыл бұрын
Send me a link to one of the recordings if you can - especially if the livetrak is in shot. Things like this are usually a simple solution, but there's a few things to check to find out exactly what it is in each case. Can also be an issue with how you setup audio in OBS (if you're using it to stream) rather than this desk in which case a Focusrite won't help you! Feel free to reach out - this stuff can be frustrating until you find what the issue is. 😊
@eekamoose
@eekamoose 4 жыл бұрын
Good comments, David. Excellent review. My L-8 arrived a couple of days ago and like you I'm very happy with it. If anybody wants to see how the L-8 can be really useful for a musician (as opposed to a podcaster) I recommend David's video where he takes it to a park and makes a live recording (I think there's a link at the end of this full review video). What I like most about the L-8 is the fact that you can access so many of its functions using physical buttons and knobs rather than having to scroll through menus. With the L-8 you rarely have to enter a menu, whereas in a lot of recording and/or mixing gear out there (including gear from Zoom) it's rare when you DON'T have to enter a menu to change or adjust something. Buttons and knobs cost money and take up space, so a lot of audio products have commonly-used features buried deep in menu structures. The downside of course is that it takes time to find menu items, assuming that you can remember where the software engineers decided to bury them. It's nice to see Zoom implement the more expensive option of physical controls, and they've done a very good job of organising them and making buttons light up when they are active, etc. It all makes the L-8 extremely user-friendly and saves lots of time. Number 2 on my list of likes is being able to send a stereo mix with reverb to FOH but at the same time record up to 8 individual tracks dry so that you can remix everything when you get home from the gig. Number 3 is the fact that it's battery-powered. I'm running mine off a USB powerbank via the USB cable, as you did in your live recording in the park. And number 4 is the size and weight. I was very surprised at how small it was when it arrived, and it's very light. The L-8 doesn't feel particularly solid or rugged, but I'm used to a heavy, bullet-proof Dynacord powermixer . I'm guessing that the L-8 is built to last so long as you don't drop it or sit on it and so long as you use a rugged case with internal foam shock protection to transport it. I've been waiting many years for a product that ticks the boxes that this one does. This is sure to be a classic and a bestseller for Zoom I think. PS: Some of those pad sounds will be a laugh to use during gigs, eh? And you can create your own. I'm looking through my collection of sound effects for sounds like 'Fight breaking out' or 'Huge female audience cheering madly' or even 'Police arriving to shut the place down'.
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun 4 жыл бұрын
haha love the sound effects you're thinking of!!! 😉I always got a kick out of playing a siren through the PA every now and then for my own amusement! haha. Def one of my fav features is the fx to main FOH whilst still getting raw individual tracking! ....now if only I could gather with a bunch of cool muso's to record haha... there will come a time! 😊
@neomerismedia1383
@neomerismedia1383 4 жыл бұрын
Any advice for the powerbank to buy ? Will receive my L8 in a few days....
@eekamoose
@eekamoose Жыл бұрын
@@neomerismedia1383 Wow, I missed your question two years ago. Sorry. I use an Anker PowerCore 26,800 mAh powerbank. On paper it has capacity enough to power the L-8 for well over 24 hours, although I’ve never checked in reality.
@andesneko
@andesneko 5 ай бұрын
XLR cables can be wired 2 different ways. This should be the reason your cables did not work, the order of the cables can be "123" or "132" depending on how you look at the cable.
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun 5 ай бұрын
Thanks 👌
@kornelijekovac9793
@kornelijekovac9793 2 жыл бұрын
No compressor simply disqualifies this unit for me. If they'd thrown in sweepable mids and a second effect bus, that would be a way to go. Why did they even change the channel strip from L-20 to L-8? It's like 3 people band don't use the same technology as the 14 people? And like we would buy L-12 or L-20 just fo that? No we won't :)
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comments! Hope you find the right gear that you're after 👌
@antoinenioi6863
@antoinenioi6863 Жыл бұрын
Another good vidéo fromage David ! Thanks for this review ! Zoom always good quality of matérials ! Most possibilty but not too much from live looping because simple configuration is better for my opinion ! Are you confortably with this mixer in live ,?
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun Жыл бұрын
thanks! :) It's not the greatest option for live shows - but at it's price range, for being able to do live shows as well as record the individual tracks nothing else compares at this stage. The l-12 rather than the l-8 is much better suited to live shows (channel compression, sweepable mid eq, and proper monitor outputs). Hope that helps!
@KarlijnRobberechts
@KarlijnRobberechts 2 жыл бұрын
Very clear video, thankyou! The all-in-one compact device is what I’m looking for. But, I want to involve my own fx and send it to a channel. Do you think that’s possible? I saw in another video on the L-12 (kzbin.info/www/bejne/m6q4lqmVq75mrKM) that the last headphone input (input E), could be used as an aux send. Would that be the same in this compact version of Zoom?
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun 2 жыл бұрын
Heya Karlijn, you can use any of the headphone channels as an AUX send - just a case of switching them from master to mix A/B/C depending on which one you use, and adjusting the mix and return channel to suit. Great to see a video explaining it on the L12. Feel free to touch base if you have any issues.
@Troevo
@Troevo 5 ай бұрын
Hey David! I've been trying to figure out if you've ever used this mixer for live streams on KZbin through OBS Studio on macOS. I'm struggling to understand how to properly connect the mixer. Should I use a USB connection, or is it preferable to go through TRRS? Also, I'm having trouble figuring out how to set up the audio sources when connecting via USB. The sound in my stream ends up being very quiet. Any tips or advice you could offer would be greatly appreciated!
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun 5 ай бұрын
heya! yep used it for many streams, connected via USB. have you downloaded the zoom plugin required first? That may be the issue - from there stream volume is what the master volume shows - so you should have a good amount of lights lighting up which will equate to a good streaming level. Reply or reach out if you're still stuck, or send me a photo on insta @davidshanhun.
@AT-wl9yq
@AT-wl9yq 2 жыл бұрын
I can at least clear up one of the problems you were having. The first one where the headphones didn't work with the balanced cable, is not an issue with the mixer. You're not using the right cable. Balanced or single ended operation has nothing to do with the cables or connectors, and everything to do with how its wired electrically. The 2nd cable you held up in the video was wired for balanced operation, but the headphone output was not. If the headphone output on the Zoom was balanced, you would have 2 jacks. It would either be 2 xlr or 2 trs jacks. Your headphones, of course, would have to be wired for balanced operation, and have a matching cable with 2 xlr or trs jacks. The headphone output on the Zoom is single ended stereo. The pin configuration is different. If you wanted to use that 2nd cable, you can. As far as functionality goes, an xlr and trs are identical. They're both 3 conductor connectors, and do exactly the same thing. Just because pin 1 on most balanced xlr connections is ground, doesn't mean it will be ground on different applications. You need to find out what the 3 conductors on the Zoom's headphone output do, and then buy or modify the current cable so that the pins on the xlr connector match up with the Zoom. Simply put, its not Zoom's fault. If they wired that output to match your balanced cable, then a regular headphone cable wouldn't work.
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun 2 жыл бұрын
thank you for this! Much appreciated and especially for the detail 👌
@tornadokat
@tornadokat 2 жыл бұрын
I thought recording a channel to SD card included gain but not EFX or EQ? When you demonstrated having a venue mic record only, you said you can leave this fader completely down. If I understand correctly, wouldn't that prevent anything from recording from that channel?
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun 2 жыл бұрын
heya! When recording to the SD card it does include gain but not fx/eq/panning etc. BUT... the gain is different than the fader knob. The gain is the little dial at the top of the channel strip - whatever you set that to is the recorded level. The sliding fader simply decides how much gets sent to the mix. So, you can record with the fader completely down, and you still get a great clean signal for the recording.
@serenitybase9888
@serenitybase9888 4 ай бұрын
hello i love your vidoes, do you know how i would 'come in' to the L8 , with 2 x 1/4 jacks. The jacks have ' left' a dj equipment , a pioneer xdj xz,...im getting confused on how to connect the 2 jacks....your wisdom is very welcome thanks jeff
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun 4 ай бұрын
hey Jeff - I would put those 1/4 inch jacks into channel 7 or 8. they are designed for a stereo input like this. Otherwise if you want more control, you can choose any other two channels to use also.
@serenitybase9888
@serenitybase9888 4 ай бұрын
@@davidshanhun thats fab thank you
@tapecompasqualegrieco8371
@tapecompasqualegrieco8371 3 жыл бұрын
Great video!!! I have some questions: Can I use usb return 1-2 and 3-4 at the same time? If yes, the tracks 7 and 8 are in stereo? If I use a usb return at channel 7, can I still use the track 8 with line input ?
@Shundo22
@Shundo22 Жыл бұрын
Did you find a solution?
@allensanchez7502
@allensanchez7502 3 жыл бұрын
I hope someone could help and would appreciate it the response. I accidentally dropped my L8 and grabbed the wire connected to USB port causing it to become loose. Good thing, L8 is still working but my PC/Laptop could not read the L8 anymore. I also noticed that USB lights are blinking on 7 and 8 channel. I did changed wires and tried to different computers but unlucky enough. TIA
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Allen! You might be in luck overall! When the L8 is powered by a normal usb power socket (not a laptop) then the USB lights on 7+8 blink to show you that nothing is connected - that's normal. So good news is the actual unit might not actually be damaged. Make sure also to download the Zoom audio driver if you're connecting to different computers - that could be a reason it wouldn't show up properly - maybe even uninstall and reinstall that and see if it solves things (I know it shouldn't but sometimes these things do!). Failing that I would open up the sound settings in your laptop and watch them while playing around with or wiggling the loose connection to see if the LiveTrak shows up as an input/output at any stage - make sure to check the connection to the livetrak and also the connection to the computer -I'm curious to see what you find out.
@allensanchez7502
@allensanchez7502 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidshanhun thanks for the prompt response Sir. I had reinstall the driver then 7&8 still blinks with PC and Mains power socket on. Tried the wiggling, until it totally turned off. L8's USB probe needs to be changed. I'm gonna bring this to some technician and hoping for some good news.
@danielecorciulo8779
@danielecorciulo8779 Жыл бұрын
Could I use two mono inputs to have one more stereoinput I mean could i make the two monofiles to a stero in postproduction, because I normaly only need two stereo inputs, but in some cases I would need three, so I was thinking to use two mono inputs as workarround.
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun Жыл бұрын
yep that works
@davidvega175
@davidvega175 Жыл бұрын
Hi! Great video! Is it possible that with the mixer I can use live mode at the same time that I send sequences on the computer to the main Mix and send another sequence to headphones/monitors?
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun Жыл бұрын
you've got two channels you can send from the computer to the desk and can then send those wherever suits - main/a/b/c etc. so yes 👌
@sonnyd1527
@sonnyd1527 3 жыл бұрын
You could probably use a Pyle Mini Hum Eliminator for the headphone jack issue. (Not for the hum elimination, although that part is nice.) it's has 2 TRS inputs and two TRS outputs + 2 XLR inputs and 2 XLR Outputs. You could probably use it playing live anyway.
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun 3 жыл бұрын
Ah that's a cool option/idea. Thanks!
@Naxt366
@Naxt366 2 жыл бұрын
Monitors jack 2 jack... Bummer! Would you say the L12 does that better?
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun 2 жыл бұрын
I don't definitively know the answer sorry! I suspect you will be all good with the L12 given there is a L and R monitor output in addition to the stereo headphone outputs that the L8 has. Hope that potentially helps you!
@Jalsatnah
@Jalsatnah Жыл бұрын
Hello David ,, Do you have any idea if the l8 can be chain linked as slave to my main l8 ? The idea that im using the main l8 for mix and recording live music band , now the band had grown 😃 so more channels is needed, recently i have my hand on another l8 and want to sync. It or chain link it with my main but not by in/out typical method as i want to sync all the tracks in both mixers to record all in once and mot to worry about how to align the tracks on the S/W.
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun Жыл бұрын
I can't think of a way of doing this off the top of my head, I'd suggest you prep them both for recording and simply hit the 'play' button to start recording on each at exactly the same time. There will still be some potential discrepancy between the exact press between different hands, but should give you pretty ace results. Otherwise - if you can split one track so it records on one channel for each mixer you'll have a reference track that is exactly the same to sync each set of audio to. Hope that helps - maybe not the ideal scenario but will work well. If I think of any other options to add a timecode that's the same etc I'll drop you another reply.
@Jalsatnah
@Jalsatnah Жыл бұрын
@@davidshanhun Aha ,, I will try the idea of splitting the track into channels on each , it will make life easier to sync the other. Thank you 🙏,,
@Bflatest
@Bflatest Жыл бұрын
will those MIX a b... work with my 1/4 inch to RCA ?
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun Жыл бұрын
I wish I could answer these perfectly for every situation! You'll likely be fine as RCA is unbalanced, and this is an unbalanced headphone output so they should play nicely together ☺️
@ОлександрРаєв
@ОлександрРаєв 10 ай бұрын
Didn't get your opinion about outs. Can i use this outs with three headphones with extension cables on stage? Why not?
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun 10 ай бұрын
headphones are sweet as - that's what they are designed for as outputs 👌
@clemlysergy3335
@clemlysergy3335 Жыл бұрын
Thanks bro, good to see a review from another Kiwi! Rockshop have got these on sale for $545 so pretty sure I'm gonna grab one
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun Жыл бұрын
yeah mate that's an ace price at the moment eh!
@CalmingAnxiety
@CalmingAnxiety 3 жыл бұрын
It was due to all your vodeos on the L8 that I purchased mine. I run a Podcast for just me (so, slight overkill at the mo) but its quality of recording far outweighs the Behringer I was using. I record direct to SD first so there is no PC noise to interfere and I am blown away (Rode Podmic and cloud lifter) Because of this setup I can now produce the tracks needed for my app, I really can not thank you enough for your reviews.
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun 3 жыл бұрын
That's awesome Martin! Glad to hear you are able to create what you need! 👌
@fulldork
@fulldork Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great video! Is it possible to record a channel without sending it through output? I want to capture audience sound and record it but also be recording music/speech and pipe it back out to monitors
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun Жыл бұрын
yes absolutely - I do this and highly recommend it. Records after the gain setting not the fader 👌
@fulldork
@fulldork Жыл бұрын
@@davidshanhun thank you!
@Djcorey410
@Djcorey410 8 ай бұрын
Where do you plug your speakers into for the sound to come out. Thanks in advance.
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun 8 ай бұрын
into the two main outputs on the unit (the two xlrs).
@JeanMartinNainggolan
@JeanMartinNainggolan 3 жыл бұрын
Do you know what other mixer with this specs and price point?
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun 3 жыл бұрын
There isn't anything I've found at the same price point. More expensive then yes there are a few options.
@bobshortcut6950
@bobshortcut6950 5 ай бұрын
Is it me or does this guy look like the sun is shining in his eyes. Somebody give him a pair of sunglasses.
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun 5 ай бұрын
oooh I just bought some recently! Timing 💯😎
@chanceizosom
@chanceizosom 3 жыл бұрын
I’m very curious about the quality of the preamps. Any info on that?
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun 3 жыл бұрын
I'm really happy with them - but don't have a huge amount of info to send you sorry!
@beta25
@beta25 3 жыл бұрын
on the monitor output, i believe you may need an xlr splitter cable (Y cable) because the monitor outs are sending an unbalanced stereo signal. without the splitter cable you may hear a muffled signal. cheers!
@steveliddle8417
@steveliddle8417 3 жыл бұрын
A stereo output which is wired to an XLR (pin1 ground. pin2 left pin 3 right (por vice versa)) creates a karaoke mixer - all the centre information is cancelled out by the differential amplifier on the receiving balanced input.
@lovelymusicnow4404
@lovelymusicnow4404 9 ай бұрын
Hi Dave, thanbk you for the video. Im having problems when trying to monitor myself in with my headphones. Headphones only work when the master and channel 7 is turned up otherwise headphone are silence. So if i turn channel 7 or master all the way off, then the headphone jacks are silent also. Is there a way to record with headphones only?
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun 9 ай бұрын
if for some reason you need to have the master down etc, then you can just use mix A for your headphone mix, and set the fader levels for the channels that you want on mix A. That way you can have the faders on the main mix at 0.
@lovelymusicnow4404
@lovelymusicnow4404 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for your response, i did that and I get No volume in the headphones because what ever goes on with the master it effects the headphone route. Muting the master just cuts off the entire feed tot he earphones, so if i were to try and just record myself while playing like piano or guitar, i literally have to turn my monitor speakers off to achieve that, something so simple. There seems to be no other way to monitor yourself inside a DAW live without the master@@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun 9 ай бұрын
@@lovelymusicnow4404 you seem to just have a bit of confusion around this - you absolutely can do what you want as I do it, but perhaps I didn't explain myself well. For the main mix - set the faders to 0. That solves it so that nothing is coming out of your monitor speakers. You can't use mute as it mutes all mixes, but you can set the faders separately for each mix. (in other words don't use mute just bring the master down to 0). now click 'mixer' on the bottom right, and select mix A. where your headphones plug in switch this also to Mix A. Now raise your faders including the master and you will only be affecting what is in your headphones as we are on Mix A. When you want your main speakers in the room back up, switch back to the Main mix, and raise the fader again. (you will need to bring it back to 0 and then raise it). It's all pretty simple once you get used to it, but if you haven't done it, or aren't familiar with the separate mixes it may take a little bit to get your head around it the learning curve. Hope this helps though and yes - 100% possible.
@JoergPelzer
@JoergPelzer 10 ай бұрын
I bought it and it's amazing. Thanks to you :-)
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun 10 ай бұрын
ah that's awesome! Enjoy!
@sharondill3248
@sharondill3248 Жыл бұрын
David, can we play off the SD card, say Commercials?
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun Жыл бұрын
yes absolutely. You can load them into the different sound banks as well to play with just a press.
@JeffWolfofficial
@JeffWolfofficial 3 жыл бұрын
Is there any way to run usb to laptop and also have wired power?
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun 3 жыл бұрын
I believe so yes - not sure if I can find the link, but somebody shared with me a separated cable you can buy. Meaning it splits into two usbs - one for power, and one for data. I don't believe this is the specific one, but it hopefully puts you on the path to what you're after: amzn.to/3BQ21Wo
@Fin17772
@Fin17772 2 жыл бұрын
Is L12 just just extra channels or more features?
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun 2 жыл бұрын
extra channels and features. In all the L12 is a better desk, but not as portable and not battery powered which was one of my reasons for going with the L8 personally. In short with the L-12 you will get compression, sweepable mids, easier access to scenes and mixes, and some better output options overall. If you're performing live with it I would recommend the L-12 for the compression and sweepable mids alone, but obviously comes with a different price tag as well. Hope that helps!
@jeandista
@jeandista 8 ай бұрын
Say you are a band, who need a portable solution for their gigs but at an advanced level: you need at least 8 analog Inputs for your instruments (mainly synthesizers and a voice), at least 8 analog direct outputs for the FOH, multichannel audio interface TO and FROM the computer, as well as aux OUT for the other players for monitoring backing tracks ad click. You are screwed, because no such a mixer exists unless you go a for a very expensive and fully featured digital mixer.
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun 8 ай бұрын
heya! The only thing that seemed curious to me was 8 separate direct outs for FOH 🤔 - curious what you're running with this part of the setup (just for my own interest haha). I'd look at the Allen & Heath CQ series as a potential for you on this - 20b might be a potential. Otherwise due to needing the computer interfacing - perhaps look at one of the larger interface's that could run your whole show and be mixed on the computer still with enough line outs to run mains and band mixes. Happy hunting for the right thing for you!
@jeandista
@jeandista 7 ай бұрын
@@davidshanhun Yes, because i want to do submix for in-ear monitoring on stage for me and the other musicians, including backing tracks / click and keyboards, while at the same time giving the FOH full control outside for proper mix. Sure there are compact mixers with USB I/O (pretty much any mixer today has 1/2 or 3/4 channels to/from computer), direct outputs (just MACKIE VLZ) and stereo submix (ZOOM LIVETRAK), but no mixer with all these features together... Why???? Having a soundcard for this job would be ok, but a proper hardware mixer is just way easier to use.
@mattvae8348
@mattvae8348 3 ай бұрын
I think the l20 has all this
@nashorn07
@nashorn07 3 жыл бұрын
Can plug in condenser mic and dynamic mic at the same time and press phantom button?
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun 3 жыл бұрын
Yes - in 99.9% of cases this is absolutely fine (and I do this myself running both a dynamic sennheiser e845, as well as an aston origin condensor mic at the same time). There are a few cases to be aware of, mostly concerning older ribbon microphones. If you want to understand more about it, there's an excellent discussion on this topic here: www.pro-tools-expert.com/production-expert-1/2019/11/8/phantom-power-the-myths-busted
@GrandeurNature
@GrandeurNature 4 жыл бұрын
Great review, thanks so much, it was very complete. (PS: you are so near the lens, seems like you will eat us :-))
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun 4 жыл бұрын
hehe! I think I must have been trying to leap out of the screen at people when I filmed this one 😂😜
@JoeFensterle
@JoeFensterle 4 жыл бұрын
Dear David, thanks for this really helpful review. Just a remark with respect to the interface mode / livestreaming e.g. for skype, OBS etc. via the computer: The TRRS jack works fine with my phone - but not with the computer - as well as the "official" zoom solution. The optimal solution would be a mix minus via the USB in interface mode. In this video I describe how this can be established, without the need for additional audio-connections: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iHmzo5trhdxjnNE.
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Joe! No issues with the trrs for both phone and computer for me. Awesome that you've found a solution for your own setup though 👌
@oscarjcflamenco
@oscarjcflamenco 4 жыл бұрын
Hi! I have a question: i'm a musician, can i connect this mixer into an android phone and use that phone for livestream a small show? Like use it for an instagram or youtube live?
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun 4 жыл бұрын
yes. simply connect the trrs cable from the unit into your phone's headphone socket and you're good 👌 I've used it for lives on instagram myself.
@oscarjcflamenco
@oscarjcflamenco 4 жыл бұрын
@@davidshanhun thank you so much! I'm sorry for not getting into the last part of the video but i've watched after you responded me. Again, thank you so much!!!
@jchavez6541
@jchavez6541 3 жыл бұрын
Dude thank you for this video, it was exactly what I needed and the most complete video out there so far regarding the Zoom LiveTrak L-8!!!
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun 3 жыл бұрын
Most welcome! Glad it helped! 😊
@tcalzuolo
@tcalzuolo 3 жыл бұрын
is there a way to cue music on this unit? For example, let say that I am playing a cd track on channel 2 but want to cue a record on channel 3 but don't want the sound to play on the master.
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun 3 жыл бұрын
yes you can - have explained on the 'i made a mistake' video where you commented. It's super simple to do, and just takes setting up levels on Mix A to start with. All the details are in response to your other comment though!
@tcalzuolo
@tcalzuolo 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidshanhun thanks brother.
@barkofink
@barkofink 3 жыл бұрын
As a musician i wouldn't go for that unit tbh. I'm considering buying the Mackie profx3 serie for several reasons. However its analogue preamps are of better quality 192khz 24 bit recording, balanced XLR outputs and usb audio interface. This is also less expensive 159€ for the first model. I like its versatility and overall quality. The Zoom has advantages over the Mackie for live environment and post edition mainly but still too expensive from my pov.
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun 3 жыл бұрын
perfect. Glad you know what you want and what you'll use it for etc! All the best with your recordings!
@GedLambe
@GedLambe 4 жыл бұрын
I have just bought the L 12. I cannot get any output to the master channel. I know I must be doing something stupid and have perused the guide. I would appreciate any help from anyone who has had similar issues. I can see the channel strip producing an output when I press a head phone mix like a but I never get anything going through to the master channel. Help much appreciated or guidance to the right forum
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Gerard! Couple of things to check - fader mode needs to be set to 'master', move master output fader completely up and completely down to check it's not set at a 'remembered' setting level (be wary of the output of doing this if speakers are plugged in), checking that 'mute' on the individual channels isn't on, and also that 'mute' on the master is also off. I know I know they're all the silly simple things to check - but test out those by actually pressing the buttons even if you think it's off just to check etc. Should be super straightforward. Otherwise - test out if you get a signal to the different outputs/mixes, just to see if you're getting signal anywhere. May help to isolate the issue. Let me know how you go!
@GedLambe
@GedLambe 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much forgetting back to me. You’re absolutely right it was they remembered settings and now I’m up and running and your review is excellent. Much appreciated that you took time to get back to me
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun 4 жыл бұрын
@@GedLambe Most welcome! Happy to hear you're all sorted and running! Enjoy the desk my friend!
@ahmadhusayn7631
@ahmadhusayn7631 19 күн бұрын
Excellent review! Am looking to use this as part of a self monitoring rig for my band. Regarding the headphone monitor outputs only working with jack to jack leads, will it still work with a stereo 1/4" lead split into 2 mono 1/4" leads into a stereo wireless iem transmitter?
@rockymiller
@rockymiller 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much I learned so much about my Zoom LiveTrak L8. I mainly use it for podcasting but I see it so much more than a podcast Mixer
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome Rocky! Glad it was useful!
@Gwadero
@Gwadero Ай бұрын
My friend, thank you for this video. You brought up the subject of incorrectly labeled channels. I've had a zoom l8 for a few weeks and I couldn't record anything in garage band, only the feedback from the left channel was recorded (I selected 1 in the DAW).
@viliamifeaomoeata6296
@viliamifeaomoeata6296 11 ай бұрын
thank you for this video, really helped me out a lot
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun 11 ай бұрын
most welcome and glad it helped!
@skaragozian
@skaragozian Ай бұрын
Thx David, your info and teaching is so simple to understand and apply . Have learnt good points from you on how to use L-8 mixer/recorder. I had a question Can you delete/remove at track file within a project ?
@stefanoricchiuti3726
@stefanoricchiuti3726 3 жыл бұрын
I use L-8 as audio interface for my pc. This is my problem: when I talk with my friends on Discord for example, they ear not only my voice, but even everything that I’m listening on my Pc. I’m using channel 7, USB 1-2 on MIX A output. Furthermore, for let my freinds ear me, I have to use the MASTER red fader. How can my friends listen only my voice? What I can do? Thank you a lot.
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Stefano thanks for the comment. Yep this can be solved. The master output is what is set to come out usb 1-2 by default even if you're listening to Mix A. Here's how I would set it up. On the master mix make sure the only fader that is up is whichever channel your voice is on. Then switch to Mix A, and set the faders for your voice and channel 7 volume that you personally want to hear etc. A friendly reminder not to use the mute buttons as they apply to all mixes at once. Let me know how you go 👌
@stefanoricchiuti3726
@stefanoricchiuti3726 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidshanhun Thank you! i finally understood how it works... in the end! :D
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun 3 жыл бұрын
@@stefanoricchiuti3726 yay! haha it caught me out a bit at the start too man!
@jonmitguard6174
@jonmitguard6174 4 жыл бұрын
Man that was so informative, Thank You. I am wondering about the SD cards and if you have issues with them. What would be minimum capacity for say 6 tracks? Probably has to be the high performance ones right?
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun 4 жыл бұрын
Thank Jon. I haven't had any issues - have recorded 5 tracks as the most at a time so far using a Sandisk Extreme 32gb which is 90 mb/s. From memory they do have a list of compatible or recommended SD cards on the Zoom site. I would go for the high performance ones just for peace of mind that it's all going to be captured smoothly every time!
@LukeThomasPerth
@LukeThomasPerth Жыл бұрын
Hey mate, i wanna send the mix A and Mix B to 2 behringer fall back speakers. Are Jack to Jack cables the same as an instrument cable? they appear to look the same...
@sharonekushnir
@sharonekushnir Жыл бұрын
Great mixer. However anyone running into a problem with loud hiss noise out of the master outputs? Seems like a USB hiss. How to overcome this?
@oscarjcflamenco
@oscarjcflamenco 3 жыл бұрын
Dear David! Thanks for these amazing videos. I would like to ask you for help. I'm having a problem with my livetrak 8 (or maybe it's my phone - Samsung J6) I connect my cellphone into the livetrak using the TRRS cable that comes with the L-8, i can hear everything coming from the phone into the console but the phone still uses the mic from the phone instead of reproducing the sound from the console. (I hope i have explained myself, please excuse me for my broken english)
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Oscar! I would check for dust in the headphone socket on the phone - it sounds like it's not quite connecting fully with the TRRS cable. This video may help your situation - kzbin.info/www/bejne/fKHLnYuJjc-rm7M.
@ryanburden8060
@ryanburden8060 3 жыл бұрын
I'm lost here. I've got studio one 5 and using this as a audio interface and all of my microphones are working but when I play back the recording I'm getting no sound. I know it has to be a simple fix but I'm lost at the moment. Any ideas would help. Thanks ahead of time ☺️
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Ryan, are you listening from the L8? Check that track 7 fader is up, and set to usb. Let me know if that solves it and if not we’ll go from there 👌
@ryanburden8060
@ryanburden8060 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidshanhun hey, david! Thanks for the quick response. I actually am listening from my computer speakers until my monitors come in the mail.
@ryanburden8060
@ryanburden8060 3 жыл бұрын
My microphones are recording and I can see the recordings but no sound from my computer speakers. Sorry I hope that helps
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun 3 жыл бұрын
You’ll need to set the audio preferences in the software you are using. Input will be the livetrak and at the moment output will be livetrak also. So, change the output to be computer audio. Once you do that you’ll be right again 👌
@skaragozian
@skaragozian Ай бұрын
Thx David, your info and teaching is so simple to understand and apply . Have learnt good points from you on how to use L-8 mixer/recorder.
@fasterbabylon
@fasterbabylon 4 жыл бұрын
too much your face not enough zoom its a hardware review
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun 4 жыл бұрын
haha yep! 😝
@Sol_Med
@Sol_Med 10 ай бұрын
Hiya. I saw your KZbin channel. amazing and very informative and a pleasure to watch. I have a question. I am waiting delivery on zoom livetrack l8. how many audio streams can the Daw take? are 7 and 8 stereo. if so is it possible to use a splitter cable for each Chanel (7 and 8) and have 4 mono channels that combine to two stereo channels when streamed. So you would have a different source on ch7 left and a different source on ch7 right. and again for Chanel 8? if not can I use a splitter to put in TRRS input and use two separate sources one for left and one for right. and also use channel seven in the above manner or in a regular fashion. sorry, complex question but as I see from your KZbin channel..... a walk in the park for you. 🤣🤣
@phcphcphc
@phcphcphc 2 жыл бұрын
Is there a solution on how to use the headphone outs as signal to speakers ? I need the main out for mix-minus Zoom call, so cannot use this for speaker.
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun 2 жыл бұрын
hey Peter - somebody sent me through a link to a mono summed cable which worked fine for them, and which makes sense to resolve the issue - I haven't tried it myself however.
@phcphcphc
@phcphcphc 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidshanhun I actually tested with just a simpel jack to xlr adapter, and it worked fine.
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun 2 жыл бұрын
@@phcphcphc perfect!
@gspianoguitar4369
@gspianoguitar4369 4 жыл бұрын
Could I ask about the zoom livetrak 12 please? I cant find anyway the same info regarding the monitor out connections. Can I use a jack to XLR connect on that zoom mixer. Is that something you would know? (Btw nice review)
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun 4 жыл бұрын
Hi! I expect that it would be the same on the L12 - but I don't know for certain. This was only something I discovered through actually using the unit, and the info doesn't appear to be anywhere online that I've found. I expect it wasn't intended to be an issue, but in actual use it is 😝
@gspianoguitar4369
@gspianoguitar4369 4 жыл бұрын
@@davidshanhun Thanks David. Well yeah correct it is an issue if you do live work like me as well. My monitors (Eurolive Behringers) take XLR inputs so I hope the Live Trak 12 does. Again I cant find any info online and it seems Zoom in Europe have practically disppeared off the face of the planet. I've emailed Zoom US for a simple quick reply but as yet have heard nothing. (If there is anybody in this chat that uses a live trak 12 could you try it and maybe let me know please?) Thanks Dave sorry for the intrusion!
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun 4 жыл бұрын
@@gspianoguitar4369 not sure there is anyone in this chat that is on the L12 - but perhaps check out a review video or similar from someone and ask them? I got around it using a jack to jack into another mini desk then xlr out 😂but that's more gear than is desired or needed lol - just so I could take advantage of the recording part!
@frankythedeadboy664
@frankythedeadboy664 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic...this is just exactly the kind of video I needed to see before I purchase one. I have a tascam dp24 and its a complete pain in the butt!!!! hehehehehehe.... thanks a lot. Subscribed. Your video, was my selling point. Thanks again.
@prometheus23c
@prometheus23c 2 жыл бұрын
Finally got mine. Watching this as I unbox and set up, to get a better idea of what to do. Thanks for this amazing video bro!
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun 2 жыл бұрын
most welcome! Enjoy the unit!
@jodatrott744
@jodatrott744 2 жыл бұрын
Plz back up i need my personal space
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun 2 жыл бұрын
Hehe this might take the new top spot for my fav comment 😂
@jvr25
@jvr25 8 күн бұрын
Great review, but hate the way he always show his full face on my screen, so annoying.
@marchtoaugustmusic
@marchtoaugustmusic Жыл бұрын
Question..Do the mix outs have enough output to use with a powered floor monitor or are they just set for headsets?
@theJACEchannel
@theJACEchannel Жыл бұрын
Hi David. This is by far the most informative of videos of the L8. It was just given to me as gift, I was pumped about setting it up as an interface with Logic Pro X. I DONT GET IT ! When I record on Logic I use input monitoring, and when I select input monitoring like usual in Logic while using this, I get feedback from the stereo channel 7 when set to usb. Which is the signal from the computer (including my input monitoring)? Right? Why am I hearing feedback? My output is XLR jack to jack into studio monitors. They just made it too confusing. Is there way to fix this? Goal: use it as an interface with LPX while being able to hear the master sound coming from the input monitoring (computer) without hearing feedback? I appreciate the video and any help in advance! Thanks
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun Жыл бұрын
heya, do you have a live mic in the room whilst doing this? - eg what is your input monitoring signal?
@girlinagale
@girlinagale 4 жыл бұрын
There's no aux send for outboard fx, unless a monitor out was used as such but that is not practical for spontaneous live performance. So I'm out.
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun 4 жыл бұрын
fair enough! Doesn't cover all uses for sure!
@thetryoutofficial1919
@thetryoutofficial1919 Жыл бұрын
Hi im really interested in buying this mixer but i have a question. While recording my mic and guitar in the mixer , how do i hear the sound and record the sound when I insert my midi keyboard (arturia minilab) into my laptop. Helpp🥲
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun Жыл бұрын
heya, just plug in the zoom direct to your laptop and open up your daw. the zoom works as an interface - and your return audio comes in on channels 7/8 set to usb.
@bjarkenielsen8515
@bjarkenielsen8515 3 жыл бұрын
Dear David. Regarding 3:50 .... what graphic EQs would you suggest?
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun 3 жыл бұрын
This is now quite an old unit really, but a pretty good simple option combined with the L8. amzn.to/2JZg71J (find what works for you though - there are all sorts of options similar to this!).
@BrianJones-dq5rh
@BrianJones-dq5rh 4 жыл бұрын
I used a 1/4 to male XLR to run a monitor to my subwoofer.
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun 4 жыл бұрын
oooh great to hear this! What sub are you running?
@BrianJones-dq5rh
@BrianJones-dq5rh 4 жыл бұрын
David Shanhun it’s a 12” EV sub. At first I used a bunch of adapters and that didn’t work. The 1/4” to male XLR does work though
@markerviedejesus
@markerviedejesus Ай бұрын
is it possible to share like for example an L-8 and an L-12 if you wish to expand more inputsbto a DAW or they will only allow one driver to use. because I've tried the L-8 with a different brand interface and it seems to not work along with it via Asio4all. It will only require you to choose one driver. And now I wonder if they will share via Asio4all you're gonna use the same brand? have any one else here tried this? what do you think?
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun Ай бұрын
I love this idea - if you can get them to run via a different driver that would support patching to 20 channels etc it may be possible, but driver might need to be written/coded specifically for the zoom series. Otherwise - buy the next desk size up and you’ll be sorted!
@tylerwatson1014
@tylerwatson1014 3 жыл бұрын
David, I am looking at the Zoom LiveTrak L-8 vs the Tascam Model 12. I would use this mainly for recording, but possibly for small venues as well. I would need this for vocals only. Live and recording would be 4-5 tracks. I have an equalizer I can hook to it for live performance if needed. Would the Zoom LiveTrak L-8 be plenty for what I need, or would something like the Tascam Model 12 be a better fit for just vocals. I feel the Model 12 would be over kill for what I am needing, but I like the fact that it has compression and I can adjust the highs, mids and lows. Wanted to know what your thoughts were on this. Great detailed video on the zoom track 8.
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Tyler. You can adjust the EQ highs, mids and lows on the L-8 also - it is just done by selecting the track you want to adjust, and then adjusting the settings, then selecting the next track that you want to adjust etc. So EQ wise you're getting a similar setup as the Tascam just with a different way to set it. the thing I like about the Tascam is it has sweepable mids for each, plus an EQ with sweepable mids on the master also. I haven't heard the compression from the model 12 - but it is something I would appreciate having that the L-8 doesn't - purely for live however. If it's all being recorded and mixed in post, then it's really irrelevant, but for live it is a benefit for sure. One of the main reasons that I totally forgot to mention in this video for me choosing the L-8, is that I can film and record audio with individual tracking all powered by a phone battery bank (or if I wished AA batteries with the L8). Hope that helps you with your choice!
@Shankydilse
@Shankydilse 4 жыл бұрын
My Studio Monitors are TRS, how do I connect those to L8? You mentioned only TRS-TRS works! Will a female XLR to TRS work?
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun 4 жыл бұрын
that's only for the headphone outs. If you are using the main xlr outputs you have no worries - xlr to trs work fine 👌
@Shankydilse
@Shankydilse 4 жыл бұрын
@@davidshanhun also, can the zoom l8, by any chance be used a daw controller?
@Shankydilse
@Shankydilse 4 жыл бұрын
For logic...
@Shankydilse
@Shankydilse 4 жыл бұрын
And one more query.. if I conect this to my iphone via a usb to lightning adapter, will I be able to adjust EQ n effects? Or will it work just like an interface(pre EQ)?
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun 4 жыл бұрын
@@Shankydilse Doesn't work as a DAW controller sorry. If you are sending the master to your phone then yes it includes EQ and effects, if you are sending individual channels then they are pre EQ and fx. 😊
@nthonymusic
@nthonymusic 3 жыл бұрын
Great information! Thank you so much for this video. Just got one of these and this video was definitely helpful! You remind me of one of my Kiwi friends who lives in Christchurch. I will be coming there to tour someday. Thanks again!
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun 3 жыл бұрын
most welcome! Ah, love it - come tour in NZ and say hi 😊
@RDSNotes
@RDSNotes 4 жыл бұрын
Good Review, How if the zoom L-8 mix with analog mixer? for ex yamaha emx 2000 powered mixer, i want zoom l-8 master out send to emx 2000 out to pasif speaker, is it posible?
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun 4 жыл бұрын
Yes this is possible. Sent the output from the Zoom to your EMX, and then out from the EMX to a passive speaker.
@MusoManUK
@MusoManUK 3 жыл бұрын
I have a question ... if I'm using the L-8 in a studio setup and my Master Outs are connected to my studio powered monitors, can I monitor through the headphones (recording vocals, guitar, etc.) without going through the monitors? Or do I need to unplug the Master Out XLRs every time I want to monitor through headphones only? Hope you can help, thanks in advance
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun 3 жыл бұрын
heya! Yes! Plug your headphones into Mix A, and you can simply adjust the headphone level from the small black gain setting by the input (once you've set the appropriate levels in that mix that you want). Then all you will need to do is lower the master fader when you don't want to hear your studio monitors (lower the fader not press mute - mute applies to all mixes whereas the fader levels are independent).
@citizenpainmetal
@citizenpainmetal 9 ай бұрын
I'm thinking of getting it. My goals are to 1. Run Roland v drums though a laptop to get the realistic sounds from SD3,I guess this device is good enough to deal with any e drum latency?2. Record a band,5 are probably enough. I guess I should get it right? Thanks for your opinion ☺️
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun 9 ай бұрын
Seems like you've answered your own questions here haha! Latency will be more dependant on your laptop setup than this unit - so if you're already running v drums through sd3 and back out to speakers with no issues it'll be the same with this. If you're playing live with a band the L-12 has some nicer options with compression/sweepable mids, plus monitor outputs, but obviously comes with a higher price tag as well. Hope that helps!
@Fin17772
@Fin17772 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome review mate. My mixer/interface had output issues suddenly. Need an urgent replacement while the fix it under warranty. Definitely will sort out my immediate workflow issues.
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun 2 жыл бұрын
hey Fin! will answer the question on your other message - hope you got this sorted!
@vinchenzo_88
@vinchenzo_88 4 жыл бұрын
Great video David! I had one question though. Regarding the monitor mixes, would it still work if I had a male 1/4" TRS to female 3.5mm TRS adapter for my cheap headphones?
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun 4 жыл бұрын
hey Vince - yes absolutely - that's what my headphones have also and works absolutely fine 👌
@vinchenzo_88
@vinchenzo_88 4 жыл бұрын
@@davidshanhun awesome! I just ordered one of these and I can't wait to try it out!
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun 4 жыл бұрын
@@vinchenzo_88 nice! Happy recording/playing/experimenting etc! :)
@willpriormusic
@willpriormusic Жыл бұрын
Hey David thanks for the review mate. 3 years on, have you seen anything else come onto the market worth taking a look at in the recording/mixer realm?
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun Жыл бұрын
Hey Will - yeah there's a lot mate! I actually bought and sold a bunch of mixers last year around this (intended to do a video but that didn't happen in the midst of life), but it's great to see more and more mixers include individual recording direct to SD. The zoom stuff is great and for budget I really rate it - but just released is the Allen & Heath CQ series which is an excellent option. Most comes down to budget etc for this stuff though tbh - there's the m20x from RCF that's a pretty nice piece of kit with SD recording etc but they're all at a higher price bracket than where Zoom is. Essentially I'd still rate the zoom stuff for being able to do this really well at the price range and I like the overall sound from their desks... but they are missing the tools to deal with live sound really well when compared with the more expensive gear. So - it's a balance of what's needed or general budget overall haha! What are you running at the moment?
@willpriormusic
@willpriormusic Жыл бұрын
@@davidshanhun legend! I’m running a Behringer 1002b at the moment with a TC Helicon Play acoustic in front of it, and then simple recording with a Zoom H5. I’m always looking to improve the sound and have never been totally satisfied with the TCHPA which seems no matter what I try to make my vocal a bit “too digital” so was tinkering with the idea of just using effects off a board. ( I don’t use much effect anyway). Have had a good look at the Allen and Heath Zed series. Such a journey with our gadgets! Appreciate all your shared wisdom mate.
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun Жыл бұрын
@@willpriormusic yeah funny journey to find and like our own sound eh! The best thing with a bunch of these kind of desks is if you're fx are coming from them - you can totally change or adjust them entirely in post if you wish to. Sometimes I've been in rooms where it requires massive amounts of reverb to sound 'normal' and others it's completely off to fit the room haha. If that same sound has to go out to your recording it's a tough call on what you prioritise eh? Best sound for the room or best sound for the recording haha! what part of the world are you in?
@willpriormusic
@willpriormusic Жыл бұрын
Yeah great points those! Will be interesting to have a look when the A&H CQ reach our shores. I’m in NZ mate. Down in Martinborough 👍.
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun Жыл бұрын
ah nice bro! I'm digging that series more and more as i look them over! got a mate that just ordered the cq20 so will get to have a fool around with it soon haha! @@willpriormusic
@francoqueirazza2832
@francoqueirazza2832 4 жыл бұрын
dear David many tks for clear examples on the matter i got my l8 few weeks ago and i'm pretty ignorant on mixing. i csnnot understand usb 3-4 use cause if i log my mac i can hear for instance audio fm usb 1-2 but nothing from usb 3-4, could you pls help a poor ignorant italian player? many tks.
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Franco - it is set up by default to return audio from the Computer to usb 1-2. For 3-4, you will need to specifically send audio from the DAW you're using to return 3-4. What software are you using?
@GahMehGrrrr
@GahMehGrrrr 2 ай бұрын
Cheers. Good vid
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun 2 ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@neomerismedia1383
@neomerismedia1383 4 жыл бұрын
Ok I've been experimenting with my L8 since last post. Very incredible machine indeed. I think I'm selling my Focusrite as I am not sure I will ever need it again. I even have 2 physical preamps - a K&K and a GAP pre 73 - that I'm not sure I will need again... Also, very important thing : My friend who has the L12 asked me if I could do Live Facebook with it, which I could without problem. He can't without an additional audio interface. Turns out the L12 and L20 are having issues being recognized by Facebook Live (you can ask me why because I had an exchange with Zoom Support on that matter). One little annoyance however - and I wonder if you noticed - but if you do Punch In Punch Out dubbing, the "TOC" sound made by the buttons of the L8 are noticeable in the recording. But overall... wow. I just hope it is a durable product (crossing fingers).
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment! Sorry I didn't get to it til now! 🤪 Interesting to hear that the L12 and 20 are having issues being recognised by FB! Hope it's sorted now! I did notice that the 'toc' noise from pushing the buttons is audible - there is a way around it if you're mixing down via the zoom only, and that is when you mix to the master, make a note of the time that you pressed the button on a specific track, and you drop the fader on that channel to zero at that point briefly. If you're punching in and out on a super small section it won't solve it, but works perfectly if you do a whole chorus at once etc. How are you finding it one month on? (sheesh I just noticed this is when your comment is from!). I've just uploaded my first full song recorded and mixed fully on the L8 - it goes live in about 50 mins!
@neomerismedia1383
@neomerismedia1383 4 жыл бұрын
@@davidshanhun I now know what the issue with the L12 and L20 and FB Live, as I spoke with a Zoom engineer. FB Live will accept only Channels 1 & 2. It just happens that the L8 sends the master to 1 & 2 (that's why in Logic your first track has to be set to Output 3, even if you are using the Input 1 on the L8). The L12 and the L20 use other channels to route the Master, so FB doesn't "see" it. The workaround is to use a third party app, or to use an intermediate device between the L12/20 and the computer, while the L8 is straight forward plug and play with FB Live. As to my impression so far with the L8.... I am delighted, and so happy I got it.
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun 4 жыл бұрын
@@neomerismedia1383 ah that's awesome to understand why! Thanks for following up with your reply on this!
@JohnSmith-te2yg
@JohnSmith-te2yg 2 жыл бұрын
@@neomerismedia1383Zoom meetings has exactly the same issue...it only accepts incoming audio on USB channels 1 and 2, so a lot of the larger mixer/interface desks that don't output their main Mix on USB channels 1 and 2 have problems.
@Saaranga108
@Saaranga108 6 ай бұрын
Excellent!! Very thorough explanation. You answered all my questions and made my decision so easy. This is the piece of gear that I need. Kudos and thank you for your time!!
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun 6 ай бұрын
love it - it's a pretty great piece of kit!
@yinYangMountain
@yinYangMountain 4 жыл бұрын
David Shanhun, I recently learned the Roadcaster Pro has an issue with mix-minus: If a person calls in via iPhone (a mix-minus setup), they will not hear an audio input or KZbin audio. For example: a host and the guest (via mix-minus) analyzing a KZbin or other audio clip. Questions: If you know,… 1. Does the ZOOM LiveTrak L-8 suffer this mix-minus issue? 2. Will the guest (connected via mix-minus) hear the sound pads? Thanks in advance, yYM
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun 4 жыл бұрын
no mix minus issues that I'm aware of anybody having with the l-8. They hear the master output of the desk including sound pads etc, and minus their signal.
@rickaronica9321
@rickaronica9321 6 ай бұрын
This is a great review and tutorial. I just picked one of these up for my Acoustic Project off of Ebay. I love you just got to the point of things! Thank you!
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun 5 ай бұрын
Thank you mate! Happy recording and creating with it!
@bingingwithcomicsnerd8069
@bingingwithcomicsnerd8069 12 күн бұрын
I thought the TRRS cable was just for inputs
@PatrickJohnEramis
@PatrickJohnEramis 3 ай бұрын
sir David 🙋 do you experience evident white noise using this mixer?
@AlexiPrevitali
@AlexiPrevitali 4 жыл бұрын
Hey ! I'm Alexi i'm French ! Nice to meet you 😊. Thank you very very much for this video ! Is it really disturbing that there is no compressor and EQ for the live show ?? See you
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Alexi! I'm ok that there is no compressor, but no EQ on the main out is really frustrating for live shows.
@AlexiPrevitali
@AlexiPrevitali 4 жыл бұрын
@@davidshanhun Okay, I understand 🤗 so the ideal would be L12 or Tascam12🤷‍♂️. I will receive it soon zoomL8 . We will see🤗
@ItsCassieVlogs
@ItsCassieVlogs 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this full review of the Zoom LiveTrak L-8 mixer / recorder. This is really helpful.
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun 3 жыл бұрын
yay! So happy it was helpful! 😊
@addthisto
@addthisto 3 жыл бұрын
can you link two L8?
@davidshanhun
@davidshanhun 3 жыл бұрын
not essentially 'linked' but you could easily mix on one, and send that mix into the next L8, leaving you 7 other channels to also include.
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