Zooming With the Homies (ZWTH) EPISODE 23

[@IcarusLivess]

TAHIR 👏 IS 👏 THAT 👏 HOST 👏 such a good job keeping things organized and making sure everyone’s voices were heard. Thank you for putting in that effort to give an all-women panel a platform.

[@oaklandboi]

Angel was spot on. Black men my age in their 30’s and 40’s are just late to the emotional intelligence party. Y’all had a head start. We appreciate y’all patience. Some of us will require a little more but we understand if y’all can’t be there for the process.

[@reginamitchell7728]

Very mature outlook sir

[@GuerrillaNationTV]

You just made a beautiful statement my brother and I don't wanna take away from that.. but when you said "we understand if yall can't be there for the process." I had the thought that dating outside of our race shouldn't be a problem anymore. If black women are collectively tired of our baggage they shouldn't look down on women who are willing to take the time and build us up. (Idk Just a thought)

[@imjusttalia]

I really am a big fan of you mr. Tahir Moore and I really wish you all the most success that God will give you and you make it really big

[@reginamitchell7728]

🗣️ BLACK MEN This conversation was not an attack on you. These are black women who date black men giving their take on their relationships. Please listen to understand and learn. We black women love you all but we need y'all to hear us❤️

[@feetenjoyer365]

Yes ma'am, I hear ya. 💪🏾 Communication is always key to true growth.

[@reginamitchell7728]

@@feetenjoyer365 yes sir❤️

[@reginamitchell7728]

@Ernest Ward you named one woman, there were 4 other women speaking. If you consider all of the women to be "fools" then you probably have things that you need to work out within yourself...

[@reginamitchell7728]

@Ernest Ward you go be well and truly heal. God speed

[@lazndora2026]

@Ernest Ward link??

[@johnellclay4917]

I'm going to be honest, the other ZWTH's have been funny and informative but this by far has been my favorite episode. I think especially in this time we as people (black, white, any race, shape, size or gender) we all have growing to do and understanding to do. The only way we can grow and evolve is to learn from each other. These type of conversations are my absolute favorite and as a man I realize that if I want to love and respect women the right way then we as men have to learn from THEM not other men.

[@johnellclay4917]

@Ernest Ward I know you and some others will take my message as a pandering or "simp" message but I'm being completely honest and that is completely your opinion on whether or not these exact women may be the ones to listen to but that shouldn't take away from the fact that men should learn from women period

[@johnellclay4917]

If that's your stand, then I'll respect that

[@reginamitchell7728]

I loved this! I wonder if he could get some of the men together to have this discussion from their perspective AND be serious doing it 🤔

[@cTRudeboy]

TAHIR HOWD YOU MISS THIS OPPORTUNITY?!

[@Noname12333]

This was a great ZWTH❣️

[@ingridwatson3519]

I really enjoyed it too. I wrote down those books to start reading.

[@reginamitchell7728]

Was!

[@EvolvingMama_]

Women Wednesday’s every week please 😍🔥💃🏾🥃❤️

[@reginamitchell7728]

I like that

[@belindakae724]

Yaaas ✊🏾🤎

[@feetenjoyer365]

Here for this.🙏🏾 Imagine having Keysha E, Tanjareen, Nesh, Precious, Cynthia Luciette, Sabrina etc in the upcoming episodes

[@maybewise]

I think the problem with black men who disrespect black women, is they think they're the only ones who struggle. And black women have enabled this idea by being so indelicate and strong, that it makes black men think "She can take the abuse. I'M the one who's being brought down by the system. She's only educated and has a good job because she's never been through anything". Like no, dude... we grow up in the same neighborhoods. We actually often suffer MORE than you do. A lot of us have just chosen to take control of our lives. But for some reason, you expect us to let you get away with doing the bare minimum. They're also enabled by black women DO allow the bare minimum, and think that the only kind of genuine love is struggle love. Some women are just so misguided, and desperate for love. It's sad and confusing. That's why I'm not actively looking for anything serious until I'm 30. I'm not wasting my youth on anybody. My 20's are what I'm using for personal growth and development. So when I step out on the scene, I can afford to be picky. I can be WORTH a dude who checks all my boxes. I won't have any reason to believe any one dude is the best I can ever do, and that I'll just have to settle for his baggage and shortcomings. Because I'm enough on my own. So I'd rather BE alone than be with a guy who holds me back. I don't understand why that's so hard for some females to understand. Like, get some self-esteem, and don't be afraid of dating up.

[@ExistNNature]

Right! We struggle because we have to wear so many hats. We are not animal rescue..We ARE TIRED TOO!!!

[@thisdudeandhiswife8108]

@@ExistNNature y'all do get stuck with too many hats.....and that's both unfortunate and often uncalled for. @Remy Mafia I don't disagree with the large majority of what you said. I really only disagree with the idea that you suffer MORE. I believe you suffer differently, often with things that don't directly effect us, much as we often suffer from things that don't directly effect you . And there are various reasons I can attach that to it, none of which was created by either of us. I ain't saying "yo, y'all gotta help us to understand". And I appreciate the stance you both have taken. You are not animal rescues, daycare centers, stepmothers, sex dolls(unless you are into that), servants(see previous parenthetical), and neither should you be settling for less than your worth dictates or your standards require. Blessed day to you both. Edited to add the words "directly effect you".....because sleep is the cousin of death and I don't really pump with either one of them like that.

[@maybewise]

@@thisdudeandhiswife8108 I said we "often" suffer more. Not that we automatically do. Because black boys/men don't fear or experience sexual abuse as much as we do. And on top of that, we often push our pain aside in order to sympathize with the black man's plight anyway. I see more black women defending black men than they do each other. You're right that we might just suffer the same amount, but differently. To say that we suffer "more" is treating it as a competition. But I'm mainly referring to black men who dismiss even the POSSIBILITY that black women are just as traumatized from the hood as they are, and act like they're frustrated and broken for no reason, while expecting sympathy for themselves.

[@maybewise]

@Ernest Ward Don't gaslight me into thinking I'm gonna be chopped liver by time I'm 30. XD With good looks, a submissive attitude, no baggage, and great connections in both the science and business communities, I doubt I'll have trouble finding a dude who's worth a darn. And if I don't, it's not the end of the world, because I have my own ambitions, and friends who like to take care of me just because I'm a pleasant person. I don't have reason to rush. 30's only the new 50 for chicks who rushed, and wasted their time with struggle relationships all their lives. So they're bitter, worn, and probably baby-mommas by that time. And I'm not emulating these women who haven't yet figured out that acting like ladies and being treated like ladies goes hand in hand. I don't know where you got that from.

[@elzorarobinson8458]

@Ernest Ward You sound like the type of nasty dusty she's talking about. And you don't have a profile pic either. 🤣 She said "black men who disrespect black women". Not "All black men". But that comment about her getting "ran through", lets us know why you identified with that. Believe it or not, black women can be appreciated just for being nice and intelligent. I became friends with mostly older, generous, professional couples, through my work with non-profits. Never had to open my legs for a favor, but got plenty of them. Don't hate, just because you can't understand why people would be nice to black women they aren't f'ing. Get out of that mentality. Then maybe you can grow.

[@deaundragreen]

I love that the ladies were so supportive when Tahir flubbed the word but he knew he had to call Tom 😂😂

[@patriciajones804]

Wonderful show. These are the types of conversations that are needed in the black community. ☺❤❤

[@AllDayFinesse]

This week has been the best week of ZWTH thus far👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@youtubeviewer2338]

This was the most informative episode In any podcast I've watched in years thank you Tahir and farren for helping us as a man it is nice to hear all this from women and Tahir being the only guy he definitely did his thing letting the lady's help us guys thank you all have a blessed love life

[@322edith]

I'm with Angel, car doors are not at the top of my list of needs from a men.

[@jusebonie]

My Husband was the first man to not only open the car door, but every door for me, and he still does it to this day. I never required him to do it, he does it on his own.

[@Tired92]

Factual. My husband doesn't let me touch a door and it's so bizarre because I'm not a little dainty wife and I'm not ever super feminine and MOST importantly, it was never something I asked for. 😂😂😂 but he goin lead and I'm goin follow!

[@tysarahreid556]

I look forward to ZWTH so much!!! The East Coast appreciates the earlier time. And the episode with Leslie Jones was EVERYTHING! Keep rocking bro! ✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾

[@benigntumor]

I really enjoyed this show. Shoutout to all Black women! Love ❤️ and respect!

[@MsKiwi0507]

This conversation was so dope made me laugh,cry and really think..thank you Tahir and ladies!!

[@Bellissimma]

I'm with Tacarra, many Black Men over 35 are emotionally stunted. I date men of various backgrounds and I'm often amazed at the difference.

[@ExistNNature]

I have dated two guys from Africa and mostly men from America and it's a biiiiigg difference in the way African men have cared and spoke to me..

[@KingBakari]

Angel is speaking a word. Just because a person is resilient doesn’t mean that you should test their resilience. *snaps*

[@ExistNNature]

Tahir seems like such a gentleman. Mature ladies having a great conversation...Much Appreciated! However, KZbin has been tripp'n..

[@reginamitchell7728]

A beautiful thing❤️

[@IAmDrewselum]

Why?

[@ExistNNature]

@@IAmDrewselum What do you mean?

[@IAmDrewselum]

@@ExistNNature you said youtube trippin

[@ExistNNature]

@@IAmDrewselum KZbin videos take a long time to process. Sometimes you can't view them until the next day.

[@MbuRasmeni]

This is one of my favorite episodes. Tahir is an amazing host!

[@akijahmonae]

I agree with Angel with being raised around girls w/o the understanding of what a man should do for us.

[@paigethomas1128]

I thoroughly enjoyed this episode and everyone involved!

[@akijahmonae]

It’s crazy that we as black woman have to hold back on what’s wrong with us because no one cares or there’s stuff to get done that doesn’t tend to our well being and stuff . It’s a lot .

[@akijahmonae]

MS. Parker wow I needed to hear that

[@Bella_Noche337]

Tacarra is preaching. I get that men need time to unlearn and relearn new behaviors but I might go CRAZY in the meantime waiting for someone to get it together. Angel said it best. I have to excuse myself until the man can get it together

[@JSAqueen]

I would definitely join the book club.

[@Atl_Boi_73]

Hearing the stories I glad I talked with a lot of wise dudes when I was young. They wanted me ready out the gate not wait till I'm about 50 to start getting things straight.

[@thesenior5986]

Definitely want to check out Hello Black Man journal thanks Tahir!

[@feetenjoyer365]

I love the effect of healing that I'm experiencing by watching this. This is why the presence of black women is a necessity.

[@AnalystAyi]

Prayers to Jackie!!! I hope feel better sis!!! 💕💕💕

[@ivoryalexandria3309]

Thanks Tahir 💯❤️

[@jr3kg3]

I'm loving the energy in this zoom

[@akijahmonae]

Farren is fine asl 😍😍😍 yaaasss Queen

[@reginamitchell7728]

She is😍

[@G1376LOVE]

So beautiful

[@PhenomenonThePoet]

I👏🏾 been 👏🏾saying👏🏾 thatttt 🤗, sis!!! Omg she is such a fckin hottie.

[@tybooskie]

Treat people with respect and how they ask to be treated and demand that they treat you how you want to be treated.

[@belindakae724]

Just catching up on this episode. One of the best, definitely start the book club

[@AnalystAyi]

Love ladies night... chicken soup for the soul

[@Jasmine_Israel]

omg I love this group of women.

[@YoungRell]

Love this episode

[@La_Rodeo]

"You No Mama Having Bitch"😂 that's wild because everybody has to have a mom😂

[@akijahmonae]

I agree with Jackie we want a combination of a man . I agree with LouLou my view of a man has changed as well with his stance for our tribe. Yes!!! Farren no more daddy issues

[@kewilliams1451]

Tahir you need a talk show on TV and i see it coming very soon mark my words

[@AdinJansen]

this is amazing please make this a weekly thing

[@reddsmoke904]

Read Moore. Genius

[@G1376LOVE]

👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿💯👊🏿💕💕 Black women ALWAYS!!

[@reginamitchell7728]

All beautiful too😍

[@G1376LOVE]

@@reginamitchell7728 ABSOLUTELY 💯💕

[@reddsmoke904]

Strange goon is hilarious

[@apagan930]

The Black woman is God. The creator of the man!!

[@fendiflavours2402]

Tahir, I saw you on Insecure & The Neighborhood with Cedric da Entertainer & Tichina Arnold.

[@bejaylouis393]

I'm curious if other ethnicities are having this same conversation, or are we the only people that have these issues🤔.

[@heymoniquehey]

Very late but I know Arab and South Asian women have these conversations a lot!

[@akijahmonae]

80/20 rule is used to manipulate us now . I tried for 4 years and it’s not the jump off. Dudes wanna find the right one when they not ready and keep you for when they are ready for you just not anytime soon. Like I’m supposed to wait for you to experience all kinds of life and then have me stay right here for it all. Like why me. But now I see I am that chick that men want when they are ready. I must be more than what I’m told I am during manipulation.

[@rizz8866]

Zooming with the manipulators 😂😂😂

[@chaosswa-ee-ty5911]

Get the girls together twice a season. Or have a seperate podcast just for the girls forum. Tahir your touch is needed bc you have such a care in your heart for women mixed with the hardness of life. Please do this. The women will come in droves.

[@lovelyanderson1650]

Jessie woo would be so funny on ZWTH I swear

[@kaithecreatorrr]

Lou Lou should host the book club! She looked super excited about the idea

[@junns]

thank you angel

[@charlesadams5445]

This would be mad dope with a mixture of regular people and famous people....almost like barbershop conversations but some deep talks mixed in with light hearted stuff. Pretty similar to LeBrons show but all his people r famous and most of their talks revolve around sports and some hot topics... Definitely could be a winner 🏆

[@jewelzfinazzo28]

Jackie is that old and still wanting a cyborg mixed with Thanos for a man. She wants everything and has seemingly had EVERYTHING... So she will get nothing. Enjoy your cats.

[@MZBoisseau]

Lol...she said "air it out" 🤣😂😩

[@Atl_Boi_73]

Man Jackie messing with different dudes. Lol

[@KamoraCheer]

Great Episode

[@2SavCrew]

All my life I've been told RESPECT IS EARNED. What happened??

[@YoungRell]

Tahir did not add the books lol

[@keithn9253]

Aye I'm loving this conversation and the panel that's speaking on it. The craziest thing about myself I've always been attracted to an aggressive woman

[@IAmDrewselum]

Hey Lou Lou, you tryin to be a food critic for my rice an beans wit bistec? Lol

[@maybewise]

This was an important conversation. And I love the diverse perspectives, even though I didn't agree with all of them (particularly Angel's), but its good to hear from everybody. It's an interesting duality to give off the "strong black woman" vibe, when you really want to be treated like a lady. That's why I never show my frustrations in public. Whether I'm at work or in school, I give off a lady's vibe, so I'm treated like one. 🤷🏿‍♀️ And it's so stupid that some men question whether or not they should be respectful towards women they're not attracted to. Like what the..... ? Don't be a manchild, only seeing women as orifices.

[@tybooskie]

If you have to be pleasant at all times regardless of how you actually feel to garner respect; then you are not truly being respected. You are being tolerated. I don't code switch for white people; I'm certainly not doing it for men. You seem to equate "stong" with bitchy or bad attitude.

[@maybewise]

@@tybooskie You should be respected regardless. I'm talking about being treated like ladies. Strength is great. But it could discourage men from thinking you need any help, or even WANT them to be chivalrous, because it makes them think you'd probably snap on them for acting like gentlemen. I don't think this is the right mentality to have. But it's just the way it is. I'm naturally delicate acting. And while it got me bullied and taken advantage of, as a kid, I find it advantageous, as an adult. Because if I need guidance or help, there's always someone willing to assist, sometimes before I even ask, because people like helping women who are more pleasant. 🤷🏿‍♀️

[@akijahmonae]

“No mama having bitch” 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@deand9141]

you need a kev fumble snippet lol. Very informative

[@apagan930]

If he is complete. He doesn't need you. If you understand that

[@Christian80806]

The Bible is #1 and Cry like a man by Jason Wilson is THE ideal book. By a black man from the hood who owns and operates a self defense company for inner city boys. He should be someone for you to interview tahir! You are doing awesome btw

[@noachristine6430]

angel is on atypical! omg i never caught that!!! ah

[@ajohh]

You respect EVERYone you encounter and if you decide they don't deserve it, stop engaging with them

[@dulanigrange58]

Farren is a true ♈

[@Lyss24792]

Jackie needs to talk to Black Ron lol

[@KeylainePro]

This was sooo good!! Enjoyed everyone but 👼🏽👼🏽👼🏽🙅🏽‍♀️🙅🏽‍♀️🙅🏽‍♀️ That Chick Angel TV❤️❤️❤️

[@headphones1995]

i love my people

[@Drea3096]

Instead of men saying ok I hear you let's talk about it your taking it as an attack when it's not...it's alot of men here that feel like we are bashing when it's simply expressing our prospective....how can you tell me my truth or what's not I don't live in your shoes and you don't live in mine....but let's have these conversations without being defensive men and women we need to educate ourselves on effectively communicating we have this divide and it's often because we are both fighting separately instead of mending the black home expressing what you went through today black man what did you experience today black woman so that we can get a deeper understanding of how the world can pin us against each other right which was the overall tactic right separate and divide the home mass incarceration,women struggling at home, the man faces the ugly world outside and many times we don't open up enough within the home or our community to pick up the pieces of long term damage.....we have a lot of work to do....but let's keep the conversation going it's going to take a while

[@florencemartin6137]

I know I'm late, but where's the booklist? 🤔

[@elibreezy]

lls Jackie is funny as hell

[@senior11stat]

I’m on the east coast.... has he been starting earlier?? Like 10-12? That’s would be awesome if he has

[@Candies1Creations]

👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@GregaryUpton-q3b]

White Ruth Young Betty White Helen

[@noachristine6430]

i believe everyone deserves respect but sometimes if ppl r playing w u... leave so u don't mess up ur character lol

[@Atl_Boi_73]

The crazy thing to me is these dudes grow up with these crazy attitudes raised by women.

[@bretttaylor3374]

Man, I wish @TyDavis was on this episode 🖤

[@Livingtoliveagain21]

Why not wait and invest first and find all of that stuff out BEFORE you open your body to them?

[@Atl_Boi_73]

That woman Jackie has been through some issues.

[@avatar0119]

Tacarra>>>

[@ndagger8]

We equally bias to how we treat each other. We kinda remember why but still don't properly express the misunderstanding on both parts.

[@whyyoutrippindeebo3514]

49:38 Farren has crazy sex appeal! She comes in looking like a 90’s model.

[@gleekoo5103]

33:26 the crazy part that could of been a joke 😂 I would of said some shit like that🤦🏽‍♂️

[@JP0384]

What's the song on Tahir's merch promo vid in IG ?

[@Atl_Boi_73]

That's why I have never dated in my life it's not serious. What I look like renting company for the night. If I'm with someone I'm 100% with that person and nobody else. Dating that silliest mess I ever heard. I knew my wife in the 6th grade married 23 yrs and counting. How you know after a year or two.

[@Atl_Boi_73]

These ladies thinking too hard if you not naturally a kind person that's never going to show. It's like breathing do people have to tell you to breathe it's just naturally done. I think these men work off the people they're trying to get with. These dudes with these crazy attitudes will not try this with all women that's a lie I know. If they have know chance they not trying.

[@msmithivh1]

Seems to me Jackie is hella picky and gonna be single AF. Want a guy to be EVERYTHING with no flaws.

[@tybooskie]

Here's the thing. I really don't care about going dutch or paying for a date; especially if it's an event and not just dinner and drinks. However; and I know there are exceptions; the men who at least feel uncomfortable paying for dates seem less likely to be turned off by women who so called "independent." it's the dutch or nothing type of men who really have an issue with women who don't aspire to be "Suzy Homemaker." It's such a weird and ironic dynamic. It's like they are mad at women for wanting to be courted and having aspirations independent of a man.

[@ishehim416]

dlai please

[@Atl_Boi_73]

What kind of childhood did these people have all I hear is disaster. Was my childhood that normal never had my dad but grew up with sense.

[@ruthavery8979]

Farren is fine ash SHEEESH 🤤🤤

[@isaackagboola]

If we’re equal, we’re equally splitting this bill. Sorry not sorry. The idea of men paying is based on the unfortunate history of men making significant more money than women. If a women is making more money than me how on earth can I afford to pay?

[@val287]

I enjoyed the show, but what happened to the bigger discussion on black women and protection? This show seemed more about bad dates than anything else.