Zootopia Makes ZERO Sense!

[@OpticalSorcerer]

I imagine a lot of the animals have formed some type of adaptations in order to navigate Zootopia, as well as the practice of eating "less intelligent" animals that aren't as evolved.

[@EvripidouM]

They call thmselves "mammals" so i guess only the mammals are prople. The predators can eat fish, reptiles, birds.

[@OpticalSorcerer]

@@EvripidouM I think in a clip for part 2, they showed Beavers going fishing, so it's possible!

[@jossuecabrera8611]

@@EvripidouM wasnt one of the new characters revealed in zootopia 2 a snake? I think reptiles are off the menu. or at least, as far as we know so far.

[@MeemahSN]

@@jossuecabrera8611 Maybe only mammals are off-limits and that's how the predators survive.

[@Lalaloopsies_United]

@@jossuecabrera8611possible theory is that maybe Mammals, Birds, Reptiles and possibly Amphibians went their separate ways and built their own cities, so possibly somewhere out there in the Zootopia universe there’s a City or a civilisation of Birds and other animals

[@-gemberkoekje-5547]

That "birds eye view map" is litterally just modded Civ 5...

[@The2BrosGamers]

THANK GOD, I DEADASS JUST PUT A COMMENT ABOUT THAT LMFAO

[@Letnan8100]

Looks like a Fortnite map Tbh 😂😂

[@justinblocker730]

Your food question is fairly valid, as for the power/thermal differences this is doable, but yes we're talking alot of power, about 10 nuclear power plants worth, but the air flow isn't coming out of the cold biome, it is going into the cold biome, pumped down, moisture separated (rainforest), and the hot dry air pumped/vented into the desert biome. The city is possible, but highly unlikely.

[@LulamaNembahe]

Couldn't they just eat a type of tofu

[@luistigerfox]

Honestly when it comes to the food question, even for us humans in reality, lines on what can and can't be eaten are fairly arbitrary, and even differ depending who you ask. Most wouldn't consider eating other primates, or dolphins. Some even consider pigs too smart to be on the table. But in reality these lines are still pretty arbitrary. I don't find it far fetched on the bugs and fish. There may be a wide variety of sapient carnivore and omnivores in zootopia, but them doing as people do, in finding farmable, less intelligent creatures isn't out of the question question to me. I find a lot of folks have this issue with anthropomorphisation, like with Goofy and Pluto. "But they're both dogs". I tend to liken it to humans vs lemurs or monkeys, we are both primates, but still very different. The existence of "non sapient" creatures in the biosphere of the world in which zootopia exists isn't something I find surprising or controversial.

[@gasparg643]

@@LulamaNembaheor fish? It’s mostly seen to be mammals those who are smart so reptiles and fish are fair game

[@katt-katt2606]

​@LulamaNembahe a lot of those animals are obligate carnivores, like big cats, they need a diet of at least 70% meat, and if they aren't given actual meat they get sick. Cats specifically need the taurine from meat, which has to be supplemented in cat food, and you can only get that from meat, not anything plant based. At the end of the day it's a Disney cartoon, of course, so they could say whatever about it, but y'know

[@LulamaNembahe]

@@katt-katt2606 thx didn't know

[@nicolausg7058]

Heared that the OG concept was about the predators being kept in check by placing an electizing collars arraund thier necks, and every prey could taze them if they felt in danger. Nick was also supposed to be main character. But the superiors rejected the idea for being to dark.

[@CesarTheKingVA]

Not superiors- they took it to Pixar for feedback, since they weren't sure how to make the movie work. They had some scenes that hit hard, but the rest of the movie didn't. one of the Pixar directors basically pointed out that they "wanted to love this place, but couldn't" due to the shock collars and such. So Disney went back to the drawing board, and rewrote the entire thing with less than a year left in the production cycle, which also pushed it back from November 2015 to March 2016.

[@metal_pipe9764]

Too*

[@Nervous-lb1gk]

2*

[@therealspeedwagon1451]

I honestly wish they continued with that concept, but I understand that Zootopia is supposed to be a commentary on systemic racism.

[@zzodysseuszz]

@@therealspeedwagon1451 it’s not though 😂 it’s a commentary on artificial racism, created to stir up hatred so to more easily control the masses. Something we are seeing in real time from the Democratic Party for the last 40+ years

[@realrealwarpet]

What i wanna know is, is the mayor still in jail? Cause, like…he WAS still committing a crime…but is what he did actually bad? Dude basically was containing an unknown outbreak without causing civil unrest. He may be an pompous person, but i dont think he deserves jail

[@austint4139]

He is still in jail by the end of the movie but he’s seen attempting to negotiate a plea deal for less jail time

[@realrealwarpet]

@ he probably will only end up with community service and probation. But, like…does he go back to being mayor? Does he need ro be reelected? WOULD he get rejected?

[@RosesTeaAndASD]

​@realrealwarpet I'm curious now. I hope someone wrote a fan fic addressing this issue.

[@digieykid6096]

Personally I’d find a vastly reduced sentence and being barred from taking office again a suitable punishment.

[@FlameGirlPlays-gq9xv]

Huh? I thought he was back to being mayor end of the movie and was just doing a casual tv interview, having him set free?

[@lasercraft32]

The bully fox from the flashback at the start of the movie runs a pie shop in the present day, and I'm pretty sure Nick ate a blueberry at one point, so _maybe_ the predators have evolved to be able to eat some non-meat foods as part of their diet instead of being exclusively carnivores. (EDIT: Guys I think I'm stupid, I forgot that foxes actually do eat berries, and BOTH of these characters are foxes... This is embarrassing).

[@scottlepak7068]

Red foxes (most foxes actually) already can be quite omnivorous though. Even though meat makes up the majority of their diet, they'll also readily eat fruit and other plant matter. So foxes running pie shops and eating blueberries in the world of Zootopia doesn't really suggest dietary requirements any different from their real world counterparts. In fact most carnivores will eat plants at least occasionally, and on the other side of things, most animals that we think of as herbivores will eat meat much more often than most people realize.

[@julianaragan7955]

I feel like most animals are also already just omnivores to some extent. That's why cats chew on grass, and hippos can eat zebras.

[@odanedmcdonald]

Foxes are omnivores. They eat meat and plants like humans

[@Dem1z_]

@@julianaragan7955actually all cats cant eat any plants at all they have to eat meat they do that to throw up or something else not to just eat

[@Dem1z_]

I mean they can still eat plants but its mostly on accident or they like the taste or drugs like catnip

[@stuartdenton8537]

The mammal-heavy make-up of the world is because the creators consider Disney's Robin Hood to be the medieval period of the same world. So birds and reptiles, yes, but not many of them.

[@brianachim2670]

Lol so does that mean that Robin Hood and Marion are Nicks ancestors?

[@helixsol7171]

​@@brianachim2670 Maybe, maybe not.

[@stuartdenton8537]

Tbh, it would not surprise me if the mammal-only city was a set-up for some geo-political allegory between western capitalist Zootopia and [insert different system] Reptilia. Would not surprise me at all if it was China-coded.

[@stuartdenton8537]

It would not surprise me if the mammal-only society was set-up as a geo-political allegory between western-capitalist Zootopia and [insert different system here] Reptilia. I can see them china-coding it.

[@stuartdenton8537]

Alright @youtube, why are you stopping me from replying to my own comment?

[@austint4139]

In the teaser Judy has an air powered tranquiliser and in the movie no care ever seems to make any smog of any kind, the animals have mastered air to the point where it powers their cars so maybe inside those giant walls there’s a sort of machine that creates a giant air wall that keeps the 2 different zones apart even on windy days

[@AndrewDavis-sj6mb]

@austin4139 how is your night,Do you know the show Torchlighters,Heard of the story Perpetua?Watched an American tail or Ratchet and Clank?

[@LoudandNoxious]

That is very possible, I can also imagine them using a lot of eco friendly energy as well

[@KapitanKaos]

It's funny because Zootopia always reminds me of Republic city from Legend of Korra

[@AndrewDavis-sj6mb]

@KapitanKaos Nice suggestion/point.

[@Penname25]

Something else that another KZbinr did is on Zootopia’s economy. He wanted to find out how it worked and then he discovered how: none of the animals in Zootopia do the same jobs. All of the police force are done by large animals, the government workers at the DMV are sloths, the farmers are rabbits, and the investment bankers and other financial persons are lemmings. so the small animals do a lot of the intellectual jobs or the large animals do the physically demanding jobs with the exception of their own private industries that cater to large animals like the elephant ice cream shop. That means that the small animals have jobs that pay less because they have lower cost-of-living expenses, even though they are highly selective like investment banking, large animals pay more because their jobs are worth more in the economy like police officers. This leaves one question, how does Mr. big run the mafia.? In the flashback, we see that he took over organized crime from a rhino and set up the gated community of Little Rodentia how does he have the money the muscle polar bears?

[@SecretRatDestroyer]

Didn't the fox buy that ice cream from the elephant shop so he could resell it to the smaller animals for the same price per portion? Wouldn't that mean food for big animals costs the same as for the small ones? Unless that's not what he was doing and I misunderstood the scene

[@Penname25]

@@SecretRatDestroyer no you did understand the scene and he talked about that in his video as well. He came to the conclusion that while animals can have the same currency, the currency is not the same size and as a result, most of the small animals don’t use large animals currency and vice versa. But Nick is able to take advantage of that for his own game

[@vulfdank5715]

Zootopia caste system

[@bloodhound1182]

Did u even watch the whole flashback? It's not about the money. it's about loyalty. Mr. Big was there and stood up for the Polar Bears when nobody else would.

[@Penname25]

@@bloodhound1182and for that the polar bears would swear loyalty to his criminal empire when they could easily run it themselves? Unless there’s something else going on. I suspect that Mr. Big developed powerful connections in Zootopia government and financial institutions to solidify his position but that’s just me.

[@martiA113]

I wouldn't worry about the dairy, adult mammals in the wild don't drink milk anyway. Everything else I agree.

[@lisoak6504]

Good point. Also I wonder if birds sell their eggs like it was in Beastars?

[@AndrewDavis-sj6mb]

​@@lisoak6504Do you the story about the 3 men and the FURNACE or The story of Daniel,Watched any TV shows tonight?Do you❤ Crayola?

[@racingraptor4758]

Thing is you can see them eat cereals, ice creams and various baked goods. Those need milk. So this is where it gets confusing.

[@eg6559]

@@racingraptor4758synthetic milk?

[@TheForbidding]

@@racingraptor4758 Probably nut milks and non-dairy frozen dessert.

[@bahamut12th]

we never see underground of Zootopia, that means there are hyper advanced mole people making the city possible

[@lifeiscats1337]

We see subways and stuff tho

[@bahamut12th]

@@lifeiscats1337 brother, dont ruin the joke XD

[@lasseehrenreich5502]

sapient when it's said in an Australian accent it's the funniest thing I've ever heard

[@RosesTeaAndASD]

I'm Aussie so I can't hear it😭

[@lasseehrenreich5502]

@@RosesTeaAndASD when you say it with an Australian accent you hear more that of an i It is hard to explain

[@PlanetZoidstar]

We see Fish markets in Zootopia and though not explicitly stated in the movie, insects are processed into protein for foods like burgers for the Predators to eat.

[@CowMaster9001]

Do they also own nothing and live in a pod?

[@sebastianleung2897]

...that's gonna be ALOT of bugs

[@PlanetZoidstar]

@@sebastianleung2897 The global population of bugs outweighs every other lifeform on Earth combined by several magnitudes.

[@sebastianleung2897]

@@PlanetZoidstar i know, i'm just saying imagine what kind of facility they need to grow that many bugs, that place is probably the size of the amazon forest lol

[@PlanetZoidstar]

@@sebastianleung2897 Lol it probably is. But we've seen the lengths that Zootopia goes to in order to accomidate the Mammals. Like those skyscraper-sized cooling fans which also churn out heat for the Desert District. Bunnyburrow is almost entirely rural farmland so it's likely that an entire area is held over to providing insects. Though it's not as bad as you might think since Predators only make up 10% of the Zootopia population. And they have Fish markets so that provides a solid chunk of the population's protein needs.

[@bonnie6414]

Honestly, i feel like zootopia deserves a series so they can have more time to explore these topics. There's only so much you can fit into a movie

[@Croz89]

Beastars does a good job with that, but their predator prey relationship is different. In their world predators *are* a real threat to prey, it's not just prejudice.

[@bonnie6414]

@Croz89 I haven't seen Beastars, but I heard great things about it. It would be interesting to see how these things would differentiate from the zootopia world though especially since the prey and predator dynamic is different , that is, if we ever get more context lol.

[@Croz89]

@@bonnie6414 In short, Zootopia is an allegory for human racism. Beastars is more interested in the concept of a real predator-prey dynamic among sapient beings, it's not trying to mirror our own world in that respect.

[@bonnie6414]

@@Croz89 Thanks for the summary! Hypothetically, if we ever learn more about how these things work in the zootopia world, it would be cool to compare it to how these things are handled in beastars like the whole What do carnivores eat, for example, since I doubt they'll do exactly the same? Maybe the predators dont even have a need for high-protein stuff anymore and are fine with eating fish once in a while or something.

[@seanrafabagass]

​@@bonnie6414 in beastars, there is a black market where herbivores meat selled to predator. It's really dark considering the one being sells used to be sentient

[@The2BrosGamers]

4:50 i dont care what any of yall say, in my heart thats Sid Meier's Civilization V from how its looking

[@jammy7915]

That's exactly what it is and the reason I clicked on the video lol

[@ZootopiaNewsNetwork]

Alright, how much detail do you want for your answers? Because we have been thinking about this for several years. 1- That "Birds eye view" you keep referring to is from a game of Civilization. That's not Zootopia, that's someone trying to make Zootopia in a game. Seriously, the movie provides a few birds-eye view shots of the city, but you picked the one thing that wasn't it. 2- The world of Zootopia is different from ours in several key ways. First, they have the technology and ability to make the Climate Wall, which likely requires several nuclear power plants to operate, but does efficiently act as a giant refrigerator- pumping cold air into Tundratown, radiating heat into Sahara Square, and diverting excess moisture into the Rainforest district. Notice that it's called "Rainforest", not "Jungle"- it doesn't have to be especially hot, so long as it gets a ton of water (which the sprinkers help with). We see the Climate Wall in the Try Everything sequence when Judy rides the train into the city, and yeah, it operates exactly like you describe- large swathes of land immediately next to it are uninhabitable on both sides, and the further away you get from it, the more normalized the temperature gets. As for weather, you're right, we don't see its affects on that. Wind currents are a bit different- we can clearly see that the city is situated in a region surrounded by mountains, the valleys of which would naturally channel winds in various directions. The primary concern would be winds from the water. 3- The predators have a diet made up of birds, fish, and insects. Reptiles are confirmed sentient in the sequel, so I don't think they're being eaten. Fish and Insects are confirmed to simply be non-sapient animals, so they're kosher to eat. 4- We don't talk about dairy.

[@Destinum]

Would be pretty weird for birds (i.e. the _by far_ most intelligent reptiles in the real world) to be non-sapient while snakes are.

[@Player-re9mo]

​@@Destinum Wanted to say the same thing. I think they should have kept it a mammals only society

[@Destinum]

@@Player-re9mo Agreed.

[@jondw]

​@@Destinumarguably octopi are comparable atleast but yeah

[@Destinum]

@@jondw Those are molluscs, not reptiles.

[@blacksmithsforge]

Hear me out. Zootopia claims itself to be inclusive to all mammals of both prey and predator alike and anyone can become what they want, but how did the ancient animals of this city come to this agreement? We are told that they evolved over time to move past their primitive and savage ways, but eventually they would need to solve the problems of creating an alliance between predators and prey and what to replace as the carnivore’s source of meat such as fish and insects. So before Zootopia, did many animals stay to themselves or in tribes? Did they go to war with other species and kill others to ensure their own safety? Were most predators able to accept the meat substitutes while others couldn’t tolerate it, such as reptiles and birds and that’s why they are not found in Zootopia? This society’s backstory needs to be explored so we can understand why Zootopia is so special and important of a place. *Side topic* An awesome idea could be to add someone or something that brought peace to both prey and predators and therefore was the founder of Zootopia. In my opinion, it would be cool to make it humankind. Because despite our differences, we do our best to put them aside and try to live in harmony with each other. Humans could’ve been the ones to bridge the divide between prey and predators and create peace. You may say that the world is devoid of human people from the start, but what if they were killed off entirely? What if over time mankind was seen as too dangerous for animal kind to coexist with each other and they would decide to kill or dive them off from their society. To me it gives context and a whole story to the line from the first trailer for the movie: In the world of Zootopia, *Humans never happened.*

[@Dany-rx7rs]

Great idea

[@NightFangClash]

That theory about humans once existing in Zootopia and then being killed off would be much darker than the Tame Collar concept for the original version of Zootopia. However, I wouldn't mind Disney getting a little dark sometimes with their content. And this idea would certainly shake things up if it was true.

[@blacksmithsforge]

Definitely would be a long shot, but Disney has added dark topics to their stories in the past. You could take the idea further with Zootopia using the Tame Collars on humans instead of predators for control because they fear how different we are seeing as we eat meat and are stronger in numbers despite our weak physical attributes.

[@RosesTeaAndASD]

I need this to be a prequel.

[@blacksmithsforge]

Me too buddy!

[@Fusilier7]

I'm an architecture nerd, and I was always flummoxed by Zootopian architectural designs. I have the Art of Zootopia book, and I was curious by the designs of the city, first, much of the downtown appears to be on an ascending hill, including skyscrapers and freeways, while it is possible to build on this variable terrain, it's not ideal, and would require astronomical infrastructure to maintain, the electric and water demands must cost billions. Second, for Zootopia to have this much need for electricity, they would have to go nuclear, something to keep the freezers on in Tundra Town and the heaters on in Sahara Square, and we don't see renewables such as wind or hydroelectric power plants, it could be possible that Zootopia gets its electricity from nuclear fission or fusion. Finally, does Zootopia ever experience natural disasters? With all of these habitats, you might be squeezing all of the earth's natural calamities into one spot, blizzards from Tundra Town, haboobs from Sahara Square, monsoons from the Rainforest district, or metrological phenomenon from outside of Zootopia, such as tornadoes or hurricanes, perhaps Zootopia has the most sophisticated emergency services to address natural disasters, anyway, it's food for thought.

[@RosesTeaAndASD]

That's quite a few good points.

[@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaDooplivian]

I remember I was so late to watching this movie. And I finally was able to watch it in an airplane. They had movies to suggest. So I finally watched it! And it was amazing! This was about 3 years ago I think. Maybe 4.

[@lasseehrenreich5502]

I am completely don't care about to the biological geological and all kinds of logic in movies but it's a lot of fun to think about

[@CornflakePisser]

Zootopia must have the BEST economy ever to be producing all of these conditions for these environments. I also suspect that all of the cows are being kept in facilities to harvest their milk, I don't think we see many cows in Zootopia.

[@AdmiralBlackstar]

There weren't any domesticated animals in zootopia.

[@Bowtiethesilly2023]

The economy could be similar to south korea or china 11/27/24

[@Queue3612]

Interesting we dont see any cows specifically. We see other farm animals like sheep, pigs and goats and such, but not cows. Also no chickens but we also dont really see any avians either.

[@Bowtiethesilly2023]

@Queue3612 yeah true

[@foxboydragon9608]

Beastars handles it perfectly, with most creatures being able to at least survive in a temperate environment with just some variance in comfortability. However, there are environmental rooms that people are pseudo required to visit that reflect their species respective habitat. The rooms aren't much bigger than a livingroom, but are all completely personalized for each species. As for food? It's not unheard of for avians, particularly chickens, to lay their unfertilized eggs for money, if memory serves, other species such as cows do similar things. As for proteins, they are meticulously cooked food using such things as beans or nutritious vegetables (it also helps that their society has developed particularly for their needs, such as their ability to reattach limbs being superb). Beastars is just a great little manga/anime that took a lot of what Zootopia did and just did it better, highly reccommend.

[@defrance2728]

Not to mention the black market, but that's spoiler territory so I won't elaborate on that. Great show.

[@kimeraclan3135]

Beastars also handles the predator/prey relations very well. The way Aoba refused to eat meat like Bill did, yet does two are besties despite that difference. Tao and Kibi becoming close after Tao unintentionally tore Kibi's arm off. And that story between Sheila and Peach was so adorable.

[@chineseman6580]

There is no moral dilemma. Conscious life does not eat other conscious life, simple. Fish eat fish, birds eat birds, and we mammals eat mammals. Them eating non intelligent fish and bugs especially has no issues.

[@metal_pipe9764]

But how do we know they're non intelligent?

[@chineseman6580]

@ in the movie? - depending on what is shown/said. Irl? - Only humans are conscious life.

[@metal_pipe9764]

@@chineseman6580 obviously in the movie.

[@zzodysseuszz]

@@chineseman6580 humans are not the only conscious life 😂 lmao you don’t know what that word means

[@jondw]

Here's the horrifying part, in previous parts of our history there were subcategories of humans who were seen as "unintelligent" or lacking consciousness. Obviously race is the most famous, but there is also disabled people(some places even are starting to slip back to that which is horrifying), women, ect. And we saw how quickly creatures whose biggest difference was their diet were othered and dehumanized...you know what I mean. So imagine how easily they would do so to creatures who were genuinely different? Heck in the real world, whales have observable culture, octopi have formed rudimentary settlements, there are birds who not only use tools but can use fire to hunt. But because they are different, we view them as inherently lesser to us. And your replies about humans being the only conscious species (sentient is probably the word you are looking for, sapient would be the one you actually want) is a perfect proof of how easy it would be to downplay others because clearly the group you are part of is the only one with thought.

[@bystanderX]

Imagine a cow running a Dairy Queen in Zootopia.

[@jacquecortez5014]

Plot twist they were created by futuristic humans conducting an experiment on a massive scale.

[@the.marvelous.mitori]

congrats on 100k smarty-pants

[@RandoWisLuL]

*I pondered this and watched videos about it like 5 years ago. They didn't provide much information so i took a deep dive. Byron Howard and Rich Moore created the movie and had a writing team. Confirmed from creators/writers is this:* Writers confirmed: Zootopia citizens eat a variety of things from fresh vegetables and fruits to cereal and doughnuts... But in Zootopia, carnivores eat plant-based proteins, fish and insects. Bug-burga is their favorite restaurant. Buggy-Burgers and Fish-Nuggets are the most popular meals. *The writers also confirms insects, arachnids, and fish didn't evolve and are considered less than/dumb* (Howard also confirmed this) Byron Howard and Rich Moore(the creators) confirmed birds and reptiles live on "their own continent" which is why they aren't seen in the movie. Zootopia is a "mammal city" Byron Howard confirmed that Judy Hopps and Nick Wilde are friends and will never be together because animals can only procreate with their same species, so no rabbit-foxes can exist. The writers confirmed the Jungle District has towering artificial structures called steam trees take water from the river and produce steam out of them, while sprinklers maintain moisture in the upper residential areas. (confirmed by the writing staff, Howard and Moore) Brian Howard had this to say about Savanna Central: Its heart is a fountain in the central plaza “that's meant to be the watering hole the whole city evolved from,” Howard says. “It’s the Tigris and Euphrates, if you will, of the animal metropolis.” This means the city is likely in the desert/savanna making the hot areas easier to manage while the Tundratown areas would be nearly impossible to pull off. Sahara Square was originally meant to be based off Dubai, but they changed it to mirror Mexico City. (confirmed by Howard) Tundratown is one of Moore’s favorite spots because of its nods to Russian Byzantine architecture, ice floes that work as people movers and cannons that blast snow into the air.(confirmed by Moore) Little Rodentia(where the hamsters and Don of the mafia live) is what Greenwich Village is to Manhattan but smaller. (confirmed by Moore) Bunnyburrow(where Hopps is from) is roughly 200 miles away in the woodlands and grasslands. So its likely to be far enough away from Zootopia(and the Savanna climate) to be a different climate all together. (Confirmed by Howard)

[@alexb859]

I do think it is impossible, specifically with how the Biomes are set up

[@gdouble382]

I still want the original concept as a movie it was so good

[@AnnoyedSonic]

I imagine getting milked is something that the cows would do as something they did occasionally after they had a baby and started producing milk to make some extra cash or whatever

[@Dinologan1015]

I've always found the food situation to be be a puzzlign concept. Carnivores cannot just go vegan or whatnot - they'd starve themselves to death. With that out of the way there's the question of what exactly do they eat? I doubt insects would be able to fuel any medium to large predator like a lion, and while fish can easily be a great source of meat, there begs the question of morality. Originally I assumed mammals were the only sapient species, so predators could get their supplement from fish, birds, or even reptiles, but with the second film we already know that at least reptiles are also sapient, and I'm not sure about the status of birds. Still would beg the question how would eating non-sapient species be regarded? With mammals no longer being the only sapient species, that also makes me wonder why Zootopia and even the wider world seems specifically oriented to be "mammals only". So not only is there predator vs prey racism, but it looks like inside of that there's also a general mammals vs reptiles/other vertibrates racism going on behind the scenes as well, as Zootopia is regarded as a place where all *mammals* can go, but no other animals, like the reptiles.

[@PlanetZoidstar]

We see Fish Markets in Zootopia and an industrialised society could harvest enough insects to process into protein for the Predators to eat. Farms spend alot of resources into dealing with pests, I would not be surprised if there was an industry dedicated to catching the insect pests, gathering them up and shipping them to processing plants for Predator protein.

[@metal_pipe9764]

Maybe different classes of animals are like different countries that occasionally wage war with each other to feed the carnivores the bodies of those killed in the war?

[@defrance2728]

I'm sorry to be that guy but watch Beastars. It's great and its worldbuilding addresses a lot of the stuff you brought up.

[@metal_pipe9764]

@@defrance2728 are the insects conscience?

[@defrance2728]

​@@metal_pipe9764 Nope. Insects are legal to eat in Beastars, unlike meat, since insects have been determined to lack consciousness by the government. They are sometimes(it's still somewhat looked down upon) used by carnivores in order to suppress their instincts and maintain a healthier diet since carnivores are frequently thin due to their dietary restrictions and stress caused by their instincts, although this is also true for herbivores as the constant fear of being devoured by the carnivores around them causes weight loss as well as mental issues. By the way the carnivores retain their instincts to hunt and eat herbivores in Beastars(a major point in the show is how carnivores deal with their internal instincts in order to coexist with herbivores). Also please ask if you have any more questions about the show, I'd be willing to answer anything you can throw at me. Beastars has been my favorite story for years so I'd love to answer any other questions you have regarding any aspect of it.

[@arcdecibel9986]

You have the makings of an engineer with some of these questions. The big one is wtf they are using for power. The various biomes CAN be made, and have been, even in open air, but the energy requirements would are enormous. We have to draw the line at fusion, because if they had that, they'd also have a largely post-scarcity society, and there would be lots of Zootopias. Many of the jobs implied or depicted wouldn't be required because energy would be so plentiful, as would a lot of elements. With fusion, you can make many of the most commonly-used elements out of water and carbon, along with even better materials. Since that can't be the case, let's just assume fission. Underground reactors, large banks of them, cold create the energy for both artcic and desert environments. You just don't diffuse it through a fan. You diffuse it through subterranean radiators much like a temperature controlled seat. Artificial snow is very common, even in hot regions like the UAE, but not on this scale. It's all a matter of heat radiation and conductivity. With the power to operate such systems, sure, you can make an open-air desert or snowfield. It's just horribly inefficient, which suggests no shortage of power. Net on priorities is food. Fish and bugs cannot feed things like tigers. They'll die trying to eat that crap, starving to death just from the energy required to process them, and that's assuming they don't get some disease they aren't adapted to. But as SOME governments and supra-national agencies seem to be so optimistic about, the creatures can be reduced to protein paste that is tailored for nutritional requirements, taste to a degree, and sanitation needs. Again, this is not energy-efficient. Why use a bazillion bugs to make something approximating a cow when the cow makes itself? But I guess cows are sapient now, so bugs and fish it is. Anything with protein can be made into "meat", including microbes. So why are the animals unconcerned about the ethics of this in a Utopia? Philosophical answers have been posited, but they're lame, and gay, and largely ignorant, so we're gonna stick with mechanics for the sake of brevity in this post. I'll explain more if required. I don't know what the intent of the writers was during this film, and authorial intent is always supreme, so they'd be the best source. But regardless of intent, they actually wrote a story about CLASS, not race. Predators, and omnivores, and herbivores are not races, they are literally classifications. What I saw when watching this film was a different version of Animal Farm, one that addresses modern Neo-Marxist "philosophy" about how the revolution will take place. Instead of the pigs just always being in charge, which is almost always the case eventually in any authoritarian government. (Yes, Communism is authoritarian. They never make it past the "Dictatorship" phase) Instead, we look at what modern Neo-Marxists THINK will happen, which is that the Proletariat class of the oppressed actually become oppressors in and of themselves. They're actually counting on this happening, under the current state of their ideology, with the belief that Utopia, or at least the path to it, will be restored by further deconstruction, further revolution, weeding out the "bad" elements of society that become oppressors. I don't think it's an accident that the mayor is a sheep that becomes a literal sacrificial lamb for the Utopia, but hey, I'm just an engineer and a bit of a philistine, so I wouldn't know for sure. Literary analysis isn't my strong suit. Regardless, this story could be either in support of Neo-Marxist ideals, or a cautionary tale about them, or both, or neither. The only thing I can guarantee is that the generally Leftist perspective of major media studios had an impact at some point. It's just part of their doctrine, as they keep demonstrating with absolutely retarded media that nobody wants. I am inclined to believe that this film was of the cautionary variety, because unlike the most reinforced paradigms of any form of collectivism, including what is called "multi-culturalism" (It's not, it's an attempt to begin a class war, obviously, hence the persecution of certain groups on the basis of polity, underneath even the open race, sex, class, gender, etc. lines) the writers made a provision for everyone to have their own environment, with the city being a free-market trade center that uses money and investments. That's utter anathema to Leftist doctrine of any kind, including Nazism, Fascism, China's current version of Maoism, and even Intersectional Neo-Marxism. The only reason to use capitalism, to them, is to use it to destroy capitalism, and yes, they act like it, which is why they don't give a shit about making terrible movies. This one, though, I agree, it was pretty good. Yeah, it's got technical hang-ups and writing flaws in some places, but those can be hand-waved within the realm of suspension of disbelief. I have other reasons for believing this film is cautionary, or at least innocent, notably the absence of Queer Theory, but that would be another post altogether. For now, I hope this post provided some of the answers, perspective, and response you were looking for.

[@wildfire9280]

I guess there isn’t much history to the current setup of the world other than a bunch of mostly mammals evolving human intelligence, but that doesn’t set up how Zootopia was formed, what the rest of the world is like, etc.

[@barbararab6390]

Stuff like this is by I like beastars, it's not 100% flawless logic, but they explain well how everything works

[@fruity4820]

Yeah I really liked how for example the chick girls sell their eggs for extra cash, and it isn't even treated like they are selling their children because edible eggs aren't the same as eggs that can hatch. what they are doing translated into our world is more like as if menstrual fluids were considered tasty and some people collected theirs in order to sell it. Some of the fan service weirded me out a bit but I am not a fan of fan service in general and it ruined plenty of other adult cartoons for me. it's more of an issue I have with the industry in general rather than with beastares specifically

[@defrance2728]

@@fruity4820 I hear this a lot but I never noticed any fanservice while watching Beastars. Maybe I just misunderstand what's classified as fanservice so could you elaborate on what parts of Beastars have it?

[@realgorbachov]

Another thing I find biz are about the city itself is that there are no suburbs. You’d expect a city of its size to have a HUGE urban sprawl, yet it just suddenly cuts off at that lake and becomes a dense forest.

[@JustaGuy_Gaming]

It' also interesting they don't seem to have any weapons beyond the fox spray. Despite the massive size differences of the various specious everything is just on an "honor system" when it comes to self defense. Even cops have nothing but their own natural weapons to use to enforce the law. Which really begs the question of how the Prey and Predator species ever got together to talk of peace. The Prey animals seemed to have nothing to stop predators from just eating them.

[@chineseman6580]

Domes would make it go from impossible to possible. What I find annoying about details like this is that if the writers put even a little bit of thought into what they were doing then their world would actually be possible, even if unrealistic. It’s just bad writing.

[@SouledHumans]

I like to imagine there being a giant Soylent Green event happening in the background of that city.

[@helopilotr]

I always just adssumed, that there are like literal normal animals around and then the anthropomorphized ones are just tagged on. Like there is giraffes and anthropomorphized giraffes, wolves and anthropomorphized wolves and all that. And for the regions: Yeah, Idk - never thought about it haha

[@JJGarcia2300]

Honestly yeah. I’ve always thought it worked like SpongeBob does with intelligent and regular fish. But with animals instead.

[@tno895]

On the note of Sci-fi society: You could pull off the citybuilding if you had some kind of Thermal Exchanger. Say, as an example, you output all the waste heat from the city into the Desert and Rainforest regions, while taking all the heat from the Frozen or Tundra areas. If you could move heat around like power, it'd have some plausibility.

[@InvasionAnimation]

Beastars is the more logical version of zootopia.

[@littlesparrow303]

Yeah more R rated & show how species can mix especially when getting down & dirty

[@estebangutierrez160]

And Sing has more animals, including insects, that are walking and talking. Ergo, Beastars is like an in-between of Sing and Zootopia.

[@lisoak6504]

Yes

[@RigbyWilde]

And not forgeting that Beastars has its own crazy logic too

[@Supershadow301]

For the extreme biomes districts, I think it could've worked if they built tundra town high on a mountain/cliffside near the city, using the high elevation to lower temperatures enough for water to freeze. Maybe some gigantic city-wide heat exchange system could be used to move heat away from tundra town and into the hot biomes? As for the rainforest and sahara districts, the humidity of the former could come from the latter: a huge dam reroutes an entire river towards the wet districts, keeping the arid ones dry. You'd still need insane infrastructures to make everything work everywhere, including some massive energy generators. And even then, that's a huge stretch to do on a city-sized scale with little to no elevation variation. You'd need the area to be temperate all year around in order to make it easier to shift local weather, which isn't really possible as most temperate places have very different seasons that drastically change weather conditions depending on the time of the year. Moreover, the zootopia creative team decided to stick Tundra Town RIGHT NEXT to Sahara Central, meaning they has to be some huge contraption to prevent the heat of the latter from reaching the former.

[@RedRango-tp3ne]

Another question about milk/dairy: what animals do they decide to get it from? How do they make said descision? Is it just one animal? When you go to the grocery store, can you choose between deer and lioness milk? Are there only certain animals that can be used for milk, such as only animals with hooves? How much money do you get by getting milked?

[@Mate397]

For the food product question I think they could have a solution similar to what Beastars has. Species that produce milk or lay (unfertilized) eggs can sell them, from a human perspective it is very weird but from their view (as shown in Beastars) the ones selling their produce gives them a sense of pride that their milk/eggs are so great quality that others enjoy eating it. (at least that was the case with the chicken, cows seem to have it as a factory job of sorts, and the taste obviously is greatly influenced by the bodily and mental state of the person that it came from)

[@tessalyyvuo1667]

It's fun to overthink things like this. I've also thinked about the food too. Lets just say they don't need cemetaries.

[@TrueUnderDawgGaming]

Imagine if the planet itself is just really tiny in Zootopia; thus allowing for these drastic biome differences xD

[@njivwathomassilavwe2056]

Who cares about things like "physics" and "geology" and "weather patterns" when the world is fun and charming

[@lasseehrenreich5502]

i couldn't have said it better Myself

[@njivwathomassilavwe2056]

​@@NewSonyWonderHappyMadisonFan true

[@lasseehrenreich5502]

@@NewSonyWonderHappyMadisonFan Yes, I don't think it's important for movies, but it's fun to think about

[@fruity4820]

"fun and charming" is subjective. Cute animals get a lot less leeway from me and the plot wasn't enough to make up for that, but that's just my opinion

[@AnujChatterjee-q5b]

He literally acknowledged in the video that he loves the movie but also loves to over-analyze stuff for fun. I am of the same opinion too.

[@olleselin]

I guess maybe, JUST MAYBE....the sequel will fill these plot holes.

[@bullmoosevelt4495]

Plot Twist: Zootopia takes place in the future of George Orwell’s Animal Farm.

[@Ballacha]

POV boy discovers fiction movies don't hold up under scientific scrutiny

[@cofagrigusfan24]

I'm just happy that my #1 biggest problem of the first movie will be the focus of the second movie the fact that it is a mammals only city (and reptiles are my favorite animals) cause on the official poster of Zootopia 2, you're able to spot 4 other reptile characters (3 secret agent chameleons/basilisks and a gecko taxi driver)

[@OwenMiller-q2g]

They did say during D23 that "reptiles have a shady past in Zootopia," the only question is how far gone is that past?

[@TheDrexxus]

I'd like to imagine the climate walls aren't actually responsible for heating and cooling, but rather for helping to keep the temp of those areas within. With high walls, it would be less affected by wind that might otherwise blow all that hot or cold air away. Or course this would still happen to an extent, but nowhere near as much as if it were just open and flat. I feel like they could just put massive heat pumps within the climate walls and have underground tubing all over these districts and make the floors out of some substance with high thermal transfer so you could just freeze the floor of tundra town and then scorch the floor of desert area as that heat is pumped out of tundra town. Then the temp just radiates from there in the same way some houses using heated and cooled floors rather than air. By heating and cooling solid matter that makes up the floor of the whole area, it would automatically heat and cool the air near it because air takes a lot less energy to heat and cool than solid matter does and siphons off much less of it from the source. They could even have it setup to direct some of that heat into water reserves they use to spray in the jungle area so it stays hot and humid. It would take a lot of power, and a lot of underground pipes, but I think it could be done.

[@DecoderWalrus]

Considering the fact that the movie is a thinly veiled metaphor for racism... is that elephantface? 7:41

[@jondw]

... given the parallels at play that's probably the wrong direction but... huh. Best case scenario it's appropriation but that is a stretch for getting that good

[@infinityandbeyond2680]

Zootopia is Just Kid "version" of Beastars 😂

[@cha0tic_ech0]

It literally has some of the same elements 💀 my goodness I cannot unsee-

[@Madjichen]

Paru Itagaki was inspired by Zootopia to make Beastars.

[@defrance2728]

@@Madjichen Nope, it might look that way but the first chapter of Beast Complex(a collection of short stories set in the world of Beastars) was actually published before Zootopia. It's just a coincidence that they both came out within a couple months of each other.

[@kimeraclan3135]

Legoshi is Judy and Haru is Nick, if the dynamic were reversed and if Judy wanted to either mate with or eat Nick! NUTTSHELL!

[@Croz89]

The difference being predators are a real threat in that world. Prey species distrust them for justifiable reasons rather than mere prejudice.

[@SamanthaSmith-mw7hi]

Zootopia should have a booming market for harvestable animal products like eggs

[@jakubsy]

when it comes to these climatic zones that are definitely too close to each other, there are only two logical explanations: either Zoopolis is under the care of an older and more advanced civilization that has never been publicly revealed, or Zootopia is in Minecraft.

[@therealspeedwagon1451]

I hate how Zootopia completely excluded aquatic mammals, yet semi aquatic animals are just fine. They did cetaceans so dirty. Why are otters and polar bears allowed whereas seals and whales aren’t? I think Sing did a better job of animal representation.

[@Justyourordinaryperson1]

7:02 literally sounds like a normal Australian summer day XD

[@rapatacush3]

So you're telling a movie where a rabbit survived being punch by a rhino is unrealistic?

[@aviator-p1v]

Fun Fact: At the Shanghai Disney Zootopia Ride, a prop directly says "Canned Fish Factory"

[@slothgaming2002]

If you're already stressed at that, read Beaststars, it'll make your head explode

[@zzodysseuszz]

0:44 you keep mocking the idea that the awards or mainstream standards for these things aren’t somehow corrupt and completely arbitrary but they literally base most of their awards off of how much money it made or what their little in circle thinks. The awards have literally never been valuable.

[@TrickstyrStudio]

When it comes to the food, particularly when it comes to the milk you mentioned, I think at this point you would have to view it as a cultural thing. You can use the same logic as how some cultures have no issues eating insects, while others find it repulsive. We see the idea of drinking breast milk as weird, but in Zootopia, milk from different animals being sold to the same or other animals would simply be a cultural/social norm. No one would see it as weird as it's simply what was deemed acceptable a long time ago. There are many foods that one culture would see as disgusting while another sees as just your typical every day food. Same logic.

[@bluedonut9874]

The logic is not logicing, but at least that fox was hot

[@the0neBoio]

yes, we don't need realism, we just need hot anthro fox guy

[@bluedonut9874]

@the0neBoio periodt

[@Material_melody]

Realz

[@lichofhearts7479]

This, this is why people hate on furries smh…

[@the0neBoio]

@@lichofhearts7479 do you mean this as in "People should not hate Furries for this" Or are you saying "You people are the reason I hate Furries"?

[@joshwebb4244]

Itd be cool if zootopia 2 was about someone destabilising the different climates

[@MrStark-up6fi]

Best plot idea ever

[@Wilosleepdo]

"1000 of species that jointly coming together to decide that some species are less worthy of life..." Huh, good thing we never ever did such thing... (Quickly checks history) Well shit..

[@anthonyaichele8343]

Thank you algorithm for a youtuber I will binge for the next week straight

[@rumplyjupiter3294]

If Tundra Town was in a depression with air vents rather evenly scattered across the entire area keeping positive pressure within that lowland area they could theoretically keep the warm air out and avoid having the air just heat. Obviously far fetched, but I feel like it’s a much better explanation than the barrier wall (which could also function to trap that cold air in and artificially create that lowland area if the region lacks a real depression) having massive air jets. I’d imagine that it’d be something like how a valley can get incredibly cold, even more than a mountaintop in some conditions, and can retain snow farther into spring. Additionally and depending on the latitude of the city and the orientation, they could be using the skyscrapers of the city center to block sunlight throughout the day to further lessen the impact of the heating. Then finally there’s the possibility that they place vents higher up to consistently dump cool air over the area, which again would keep it a bit cooler, this is also one of the only methods directly shown since they do display spraying shredded ice to keep themselves cool in one of the shorts (Mr Big’s backstory)

[@CloudMan123]

I would love to see an AU with all these issues actually present, turning it into a total dystopia and horrible place to live.

[@corny-sub]

My guess is for energy they go nuclear, or use lots of renewable spread out across surrounding areas, or both They probably eat all non mammals and reptiles Maybe to control the temperature they use smaller, more spread out cooling and heating systems, like heat lamps The economy likely has laws about equal prices and pay for all sizes, or maybe similar species often buy, employ, and work for one another so they get paid more, so they can afford food Also the farm she is from is far from Zootopia so climate may differ Also maybe Zootopia is bigger than we think, and just is a city in the middle of different climates Dairy might be artificial, or sold by cows Jobs might be assigned by species, or recommended but not mandatory

[@Epic_747]

no mater what they do to power the climate regulation, the water consumption of said power generators is in of itself going to absolutely crush the outside biosphere rainworld style, i say this in the context that using nuclear power which would be most efficient to power the climate as well as city utilities, is going to require a massive ammount of coolant to supply the multiple reactors needed, using a rough estimate for tundra town, where the entire city is 25square kilometres, ill be lazy and say tundra town is a quarter of that at 6.25km^2 ill assume that the outside grassy biome has a similar climate to north american/ more equitorial grasslands and has a upper summer temperature of 35c, tundra town supporting polar species is at its warmest probably -35 to -40c but we will take the less extreme -35c this is a temperature difference of 70c, using a formula a found, the mass of a cubic metre of air at sea level is about 1.3kg, now for a lowball im going to say the city cools air up to 100m from the ground to maintain the climate, so thats 6250 x 100 = 625000m^3 of air, which will wegh in at 812500 (in our ideal case), P = M x Cp (heat capacity of our ideal air) x (Ti - Tf), out heat capacity is 1005 joules/ Kg P = 812500 x 1005 x (35 - 35) (70 as it is our difference in celcius i dont feel like going into kelvin and this ordeal is already a mess.) we end up with 57,159,375 KW/h of energy to cool the air by this amount, this does not factor in maintaining the temperature, or maintaining it in proximity to a wet humid and hot biome, for reference the average hourly output of a standard nuclear reactor is 1gigawatt/hour, that is over 57 times less than what is needed to sustain our theoretical tundra town, this does not factor in, other districts or the powerdraw of the main city. ive been working on this comment for over 40 min now so i wont calculate the theoretical water consumption, its between 35 and 65 million litres per day (per reactor), safe to say the ecosystem inside and outside the city is absolutely f***ed, theres no chance in the first place the grasslands even have the quantity of water needed, and to move the nessesary water is a logistical impossibility, but say it somehow works, if we add the power draw of the entire city, i would guess the raw steam output from what is at least 2x the power requirement is going to cause the local biosphere to be irriversably altered from the precipitation, or better yet, its going to cycle back into the dehumidifiers needed for the tundra and cause the entire system to snowball. if i got anything wrong please correct me, but in the grand sceme of this only an error in the first 2 significant figures makes any real difference why did i do this to myself.

[@Epic_747]

i was going to play counterstrike but instead i did this

[@nickfroml4d289]

Love that you used Civ 5 for showing what zootopia would look like absolute peak

[@tvbme438]

The biggest thing you overlooked is that the sloth is revealed to be able to speed around in a car at the end of the film. This implies the sloths are fully capable of moving fast and are just messing with everyone at the DMV.

[@chiiiiweeeee]

that one scene with the giraffe car is so weird. how is it legal to be sold when that thing is literally a flipping hazard.

[@CanadianSpaceBoy]

In the words of my little cousin "it makes sence because it does! You big meany!!!" Throws pillow

[@personperson.7744]

A climate wall can keep something cold if it is big enough. Mountains can keep a place in the other side of them very cold, because it prevents warm air currents from passing through, considering he warm air rises but condenses and turns into rain before getting above the mountains

[@Alessandro7432]

GG to SmartyPants for reaching the 100.000 subs milestone!

[@ellissthejealous]

Judy Hopps was my childhood hero

[@lasseehrenreich5502]

min too

[@thehedgehoggamer8471]

Childhood? This movie was released 8 years ago. How old are you?

[@Jahito_EBT]

​@@thehedgehoggamer8471*bro just figured put young people exist*

[@chrisk6637]

​@@Jahito_EBT *Fr*

[@firetoacat]

I actually did think a bit on how they could have gotten the different parts of the city to be like they are. How I figure it is that tundra town likely has a lot of heat absorbers built under the ground that transfers any heat that part of the city gains. The collected heat is then transferred to the walls which is then blown into Sahara square or sent into special heating plates built under that part of the city.

[@Clone683]

Beastars didnt shy away from the "What do the carnivores eat?" question

[@frankyanish4833]

Since the first movie focused on mammals, and the second movie is apparently going to focus on reptiles, I can only assume that the birds are responsible for the weather.

[@philbaker7781]

In my head canon the area the city was built is a one-off natural formation. On their planet it's a natural biome sectioning, so they built their capitol city there.

[@bee-18-ki]

7:00 when he said 38 degrees was hot i was so confused.

[@lolcatz88]

he literally said 38 degrees Celsius… what’s to be confused about? You know THE REST of the world uses Celsius to measure temperatures right?

[@bee-18-ki]

@@lolcatz88 i’m from australia. in the town i live in summer can reach 50 degrees sometimes not very often at all but sometimes. 38 degrees is hot but not that hot to me i was just sort of taken aback. Yk?

[@rumpys49thsubscriber]

@@bee-18-kilol in southern canada 38 is like,, the hottest its ever gotten here and people died cause of it

[@JurassicEdits1993]

@@lolcatz88Wow you just love being a jerk for no reason don’t you

[@sebaschan-uwu]

​@bee-18-ki "oh 100°F is hot? Don't you know in the middle of death valley it gets to over 150°F!? 100 degrees isn't hot at all" - that's how stupid you sound. 40 fucking degrees Celsius is hot as shit and it doesn't magically become cold because the middle of the fucking outback desert gets hotter.

[@Diego-ps7eq]

" Humans are the only sapient species " yeah sure because we know exactly what makes something sapient and we know 100% for a fact that we all are 🙄

[@montanajackson3713]

For dairy production I first thought of oat milk, rice milk, soy milk, almond milk and coconut milk. or what if female bovines go to milk donation facilities? Also, maybe there’s an underground district inhabited by nocturnal animals like moles.

[@caellumrevolta2839]

"I can't believe there are no birds in Zootopia, WHAT IS UP WITH THAT?! PLEASE DON'T TRY EVERYTHING! SOME THINGS CAN BE BAD! SOME THINGS WOULD EVEN PUT YOU IN JAIL!"

[@warprifter8772]

One thing to keep in mind too is that Zootopia could not afford a frozen district like that. The only reason such a thing came to be is because mr big worked with the polarbears to become extremely rich, and set up the entire system himself as well as set up Little rodentia. with how much money he's likely raking in from both districts, he is likely making and putting millions into that whole thing. so indeed. it is quite the expensive thing to maintain.

[@SilverStarHeggisist]

Put the condensers in the rain forest district, and the evaporators in the tundra district. Now the act of cooling the tundra district will heat the rain forest district because of how air conditioning works. Take the water that is collected by the evaporators and pump it to the condensers to both help cool them, making it more efficient, but also the hot condenser will evaporate the water flowing over it to make the environment humid. The wall may be enough to keep the tundra district cold for the same reason open fridges in stores work. Air masses don't like to mix, and the dense cold air won't want to rise up over the wall. This will keep the cold locked in so long as any doors down low aren't left open. Warm air above the wall won't want to mix with the cold dense air below the wall. It's actually the rain forest district that would be harder to maintain since the hot air would want to rise up over the wall.

[@syncout9586]

I think the food issue with zootopia wouldn't be such a big problem if they had just anthropomorphized only mammals. Introducing an egg-laying reptile in the 2nd movie just complicates things a lot

[@AlephSix66]

3:53 YO THATS THE FORTNITE MAP

[@Gastemaz]

Bro it looks exactly as chapter 5

[@VermontMapping]

Zootopia came out before Fortnite

[@omgwillustrate8475]

Honestly, some tall mountain ranges in the right places and a jet stream that barely deviates could help keep the tundra biome cold and unaffected by the other areas. The extreme climate difference between the biomes could produce turbulent weather, but only with enough moisture. Though, without a nearby sea or ocean those storms may never grow to be all that terrible unless a tropical depression gets close enough.

[@combatking0]

A sufficiently powerful heat pump system could cool one area and warm another. But you'd need a crazy power source and maintenance service to keep it going.

[@ethanodell8044]

The moment I saw the top-down view of the city I immediately knew that that came from something made in Civilization 5

[@TheKeyToEverywhere]

2min 45 second intro on a 10min video is wilddd

[@rexturbo10]

Now I want him doing a video about the city on Elements

[@HedgehogBoi]

What if the climate wall works like a basic refrigeration or air conditioning system where it displaces heat from one area to another, it could use radiators and coolant to remove heat from the tundra and expell it into the desert. It's only limitations would be the capabilities of the refridgerant used in the process which would have been developed and improved apon far beyond human requirements but it would be in their best interest. Also a rainforest works on a water cycle, so although there is obviously machinery to expell the water into the air in several ways, I imagine that most of that water has been recycled, and only a small amount needs to be sourced to top up the system.

[@tyuie9849]

You should read Beastars, it really focuses on all your questions about food, and the animals live in a similar world.

[@kvn8907]

The little video box inside a larger black and white video box is absolutely obnoxious. I can't imagine why he thought that was a good idea.

[@Gamesfromthemedusatavern]

9:22 they eat humans…duh

[@WolfX1120]

To your technical question about the city, with enough time and engineering it might be possible, but the logistics are definitely going to be a nightmare, as for the food, they are definitely using real mammal milk, look to Zootopia+ Dinner Rush, flash stated he was lactose intolerant, I figure that the majority of the milk is mostly coming from the mega-fauna, there are women that can and do sell breast milk, so it's not that big of a stretch, and it's definitely clearly stated that fish and bugs did not evolve Sapient's in the world of Zootopia, so yes fish and bugs are the main food source for the carnivores.