Zorga Nadir (Wolfren) Vs Eva (Shadowrocker) Dvbt02 Gamplay

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@gallowsspecter 4 ай бұрын

Do you post your deck list anywhere? I am returning to vanguard after a brief break and Zorga was always my fav but I have no idea how to build this new zorga now and am struggling to find any resources on anyone who goes into depths on what is good and why etc 😵‍💫

@ZorgaVS 4 ай бұрын

@@gallowsspecter yeah! I usually post on twitter. You can ask for lists in the discord aswell :3 The most common list is pure zorga, something as: Rancor+husk 3 nadir 4 rpd 4 shadow 4 pg (unit) 4 coutir 3 philander 1 karma (or just go ahead with 4 philander) 1 ladder/doll/chalice 1 miasma 1 malice 1 sweets 1 habitat 1 restrain 1 overcoming 1 toxins 2 abolishment for sins You can also brew some lists mixing with masque aswell, but the one above is the most standarized and works well :3

@DonaldDavidPedregosa 6 ай бұрын

12:27 why did u have 3 bind cards after the turn? When u alche magic. The habitat shouldve gone to the drop right?

@ZorgaVS 6 ай бұрын

Hellow! That is usually the case. However, overcoming was used on the alchemagic so the order from hand gets bound. Overcoming is the best card to turbo bind now, as it both accelerate the deck and farms handsize :3 I realised it gets confusing on videos to know what orders im using so i will make it more clear in the videos to come so it gets easier. (Sometimes im confused aswell when im commenting the videos lol)

@Guillotinegamestcg 5 ай бұрын

Why focus on trying to eb7 to draw when both zorga and kaRMA use be? Wouldn’t you wanna save for them?

@ZorgaVS 5 ай бұрын

@@Guillotinegamestcg i do not run karma :3 i have enough cb so im just using the cb cost for braveshooter

@dylangoh1351 6 ай бұрын

I know you’ll be focused on making vids featuring decks in the fated clash from now on, but I’m honestly interested in a vid where u go thru how u approach the matchup against shiranui. Pre ban shiranui as well as post ban with festival collection support feel a bit much for nadir to handle. When I test the matchup, shiranui can draw so much to the point where I can almost deck out (I’m not running any draw triggers) and it can be too tanky for zorga too handle

@ZorgaVS 6 ай бұрын

im having problems recording that because we miss some of the cards T.T ive been trying a lot to make it. Since im struggling a bit, i think i will try to give you a writen anwser you can use in the mean time :3 another thing that makes me struggle is that there is 2 shiranui. Prefestcole, the deck is very easy to handle both as masques (you win with playstyle) and nadir (you ladder preoboro and win). However, this changes a bit after festcole because the deck becomes very fast (and i don t have people to play against that version XD) Let's stay in the present for now: Masques: You ask them if they have a gzone and ideally, you go second. I think going second it gets easier because the normal gameplan usually wins before oboro. lets focus on going 1st. The thing with going 1st is that it gets tricky. if you are well positioned, you want to stay on g2. if the hand is powerful, you may be able to recall dragons but even if you do not, just doing boosted 13k the turn after calling is fine. Remember you can call 2 g1s t1 to deny shenry aswell if you so happen to not have an order to activate turn 1. nadir: with nadir, on the other hand, you always want to go 1st, because the deck is rly strong t4. You want to grind overcoming as soon as t2, and get blitz order, as it rly mitigates the multiattack strenght. usually, they cannot kill you with maguntenbu on their 1st stride turn, so what you wanna do is tank that turn trying to stay arround 3/4, staying on a safe spot where you might also deny some heals or cheese your own and you do then ladder on your turn 4, so they cannot play. you will usally not kill here, but then they do not get to play, you survive and kill t5. there is no reason to worry about going second, because they shouldn t know you are playing Zorga. (That being said, i think Nui is getting more favored as a going 1st deck the most time keeps passing lol). being honest, this should remain the same even with rivali on the picture, because they should still not kill you with you play it like that, but it might get a bit harder. I can imagine maguntenbu 1st stride being strong now with the new rush engine so we wanna watch out for that Hope this helps. I wish i could record the video a bit faster. My community needs to catch up with the incoming releases a bit jeje

@dylangoh1351 6 ай бұрын

@@ZorgaVS tks a lot for the advice. Honestly I’m playing jp format so it’s post ban with fes col support. Shiranui is not only quite fast now but more tanky than u think. With bolvis, energy cyclers, shenryis, tengen, they all help u draw cards. When I test with it, I can choose to draw to the point of near deck out and even outlast zorga’s offense even with ladder played so very spooky

@ZorgaVS 6 ай бұрын

@@dylangoh1351 yeah, definetely, we are not killing turn 3/4 anymore, but i think having acces to a 5th turn with ladder can make a difference, but i guess i will only know after trying it :3 i cannot wait to have the cards and start recording!

@dylangoh1351 6 ай бұрын

It’s important to know when to search for the g3 obscudeid from deck off eva’s skill. In 53.00, ur opponent goes to dig for it from the deck after putting poison eva from drop to bottom of his deck using the g1’s skill. By doing so, he’s forced to shuffle his deck and contaminate his drive checks. This can be an important factor into the games going into time also, doing unnecessary searches and shuffling. He shouldve taken the extra 15s to check if all the g3 obscudeids were out first

@ZorgaVS 6 ай бұрын

This is a good point tbh. Also later on, the stack of known bottom cards can be huge so that is a lot of intel aswell

@antonypistachio5476 6 ай бұрын

Are you on a more grindy build or aggro build currently?

@ZorgaVS 6 ай бұрын

As for pure, i think this is pretty much it. The only changes i can see for now are -2 shooter and +1 karma +1philander but i think this is how i will play nadir as pure. Im also toying with new hibrid versions! I will make more videos about funky lists soon UwU

@antonypistachio5476 5 ай бұрын

@@ZorgaVS I'm currently on two spoof shade two karma two Philander lol. I like going full aggro and hitting 50k columns turn 3. The 4 Coutir tech is really nice tho.

@ZorgaVS 5 ай бұрын

@@antonypistachio5476 well, coutir is good for tempo and toolboxing but other cards create some other kinds of viable strategies :3

@antonypistachio5476 5 ай бұрын

@@ZorgaVS Like what? I am curious

@antonypistachio5476 5 ай бұрын

@@ZorgaVS Also how many orders are you on

@zero_cadence4595 6 ай бұрын

have you seen the new list from wgp in jp last week? curious on your thoughts because spoof shade is quite an underrated card and i really like it

@ZorgaVS 6 ай бұрын

actually, i haven't! do you have a link to the list? sounds interesting :3

@zero_cadence4595 6 ай бұрын

@@ZorgaVSits on vgparadox website, there's like 3 lists that are quite different from the usual nadir list, hmu if u seen it already! 😁

@jonyfba 6 ай бұрын

Gane 2, Divine skill kills the column it stands, so RPD also dies from "Hollow"

@ZorgaVS 6 ай бұрын

Oh true! It doesn t matter most of the time because he gets called over anyway XD but thanks for pointing it out! (It is suddenly so cool we can consider this as hollow tbh)