Zos Drops The Ball Again (tarnished nightmare and oakfathers)

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[@adamknight1387]

Tarnished Nightmare actually balances out all the cheese mongers running 45-50K health ball groups ball groups. It’s exactly what pvp needed.

[@yucheng3986]

the way to use this bug 1.take nightmare 2.equip the skill:inevitable detonation 3.use the detonation skill and let this skill proc nightmare only 4.the bug work sucess，the nightmare damge will 100% increases as will as each enemy with the bomb's radius the point is dont do any other damage to proc nightmare ,only detonation remenber that,go to enjoy that before zos fix it

[@Mrridethelighting]

Enjoy a exploit... I swear you kids eat crayons it could be next pacth befor this is fixed know bgs and sewers have bots running around littary one shoting players... I know someone inmature no one gonna say I am mad nah it's just stupid to support a broken feature... Keep the exploits private 🤔👍 making a vid surroundings 🙄🙄

[@nomadsland8322]

@@Mrridethelightingit’s about time zergs get their just deserts for once, even if just for a patch. Spread out or get fucked.

[@Mrridethelighting]

@@nomadsland8322 I agree I hate zergling as well but there not targeting zergling there targeting solo players

[@nomadsland8322]

@@Mrridethelighting how though? If it hits you twice I get it that’s rough, but not any worse than other multi-proc setups.

[@Mrridethelighting]

@@0ne-Two... Not even gonna say any thing ur definitely eating crayons

[@HappyCamperXD]

I would just like to add an emphasis on how this is in no way, shape, or form ZOS’s fault. They are simply not equipped to handle stress testing their game or updates before they go live. This small indie company doesn’t make much on a monthly basis and I’m sure every single shackle goes towards making a quality game experience for their customers.

[@irishsage2459]

The sarcasm will be missed by many 🤣🤣

[@JTKGAMING14]

i love you

[@1donu]

Going back to Viper set. Or Hrothgar. All possible if you dont play your game. And if you dont listen to communty. But be fair, after they cancelet the "class-rep" programm, we all understand the point, zos give a shit^^

[@irishsage2459]

After this video, still don't know what's going on....lol Best I can put together is it's scaling off proxy det damage. 🤷‍♂️

[@JTKGAMING14]

The thumb nail tells u what's going on. Read proxy dets tool tip

[@xyourdeus4972]

It's basically causing a shotgun like effect, when you pop it in an area it stacks the damage from individual players resulting in a huge burst proc that shouldn't happen. Instead of everyone in the area receiving 1 damage proc it's scaling everyone's individual damage procs into 1 big burst.

[@Dadpoweractivate]

PS5 seems ok I did hit a 22k once idk how but it happened.

[@RaphX13]

On PlayStation na it’s a sorc or tank meta having broken sets that can delete said tanks is needed at this point leave it be

[@jonathanjimmyshearman2500]

Yeah John bon bonster gear monster is a pretty confusin boy sometimes😄...even if its adjectively😐😕...well(making a corny whistle sound), hope you call the truce with Borecrux, i heard hes influenced at being a real noodle-A class one at Elder Scrolls....😯😁shidduuᵘᵘᵘʰ.

[@bobbooshayy4038]

I don’t care about the gankers they are going to be around regardless , at least now players have a way to counter literally the whole group chasing you if you play it off correctly.

[@squidgaurd6927]

Hey jtk its been a long while man. The years have taken me all over the place but i have a question )how do i connect my gopro 11 to my pc to use as a webcam reddit has been useless for this question

[@JTKGAMING14]

Normally you will need a capture card. Some of the new cams coming out don't need one but have no idea if that's one

[@TheTaff213]

NB using vicious death, tarnished nightmare, Balorgh. Proxy det, cloak and run into a ball group. Boooom. Shouldn't be allowed but fuck ball groups.

[@user-gr1md3nb1l]

This sounds to simple and what people do often anyway learning to bomb. This couldn't be classed as exploiting surely

[@BoneTomahawk_]

Okay so..I’ve always bombed and am currently using these sets. I haven’t seen numbers this high on damage I’ve caused, is it only in death recaps? Someone said I was getting reported the other day but I can’t tell that I’m doing anything wrong

[@xprodigyxgames3296]

It's scales off the multiplier off proxy det

[@skulpturostone4621]

I suppose, nightmare proked on multiple targets at once. I suppose, zos will change it to prok of single target damage only. Soon

[@CheeseTuber]

I KNEW IT! I saw that recap and complained about it to my friends and they were like, nah not possible, it is not that great a set 😂 I knew something fucky was happening

[@hotlantasb1629]

Are the glass shards reflectable? If someone is running defensive posture or shimmering shield?

[@JTKGAMING14]

I don't think so. I haven't tested it tho

[@hotlantasb1629]

I was playing last night on my warden and I could have sweared my shimmering shield absorbed the damage. I was gonna test it myself.

[@JTKGAMING14]

I'll test it if I get time and I'll let u know

[@Mike-tk4ze]

Seems like ZOS made a counter to ball groups. Kind of like when DC and PB first came out. They let us have fun and then adjust to reality. Normal and let small scale and x’rs have some fun….. Someone’s ball group/Zerg got blown up lol

[@JTKGAMING14]

If there fixed core problems like heal stacking we wouldn't need to use a broken set to kill anyone. I wish there was more skills like proxy that scale with how many are hit.

[@dreamdragon_]

The ball groups can make more use of them than small scale groups; especially vicious death. With a big ball group keeping a bomber alive with cross healing and stacking buffs, all it takes is for one person to die and you’ll often kill all others, even if it’s just two enemies stacked. Bomb sets ARE ball group sets. They only kill ball groups when completely overwhelming numbers fight them or another ball group wipes them, or the ball group makes multiple mistakes. Imo, ditch all aoe scaling stacking proc sets. Ball groups should have to target.

[@nomadsland8322]

Way back when Widowmaker was a 11-12k AoE proc, I always wished and imagined it all stacked together, ie if I hit 5 people with it, it does 55-60k damage. Mostly just as a funny hypothetical. Years later, I get to witness this in action. Part of me loves it and part of me hates it, it’s the only thing that’s anywhere close to a “no no no, you don’t get to just endlessly outnumber everyone and never die” mechanic, which this game has always needed. For as much as I hate P2W, I might have to partake this one time. Fuck dem zergs.

[@SirSquash]

yea oakfathers is utterly broken scaling out of control if you hit a zerg with it your pen/damage goes thru the roof because it ads up all the maj/min buffs and debuffs. add in a proc when oakfathers is way scaled up and then yea boom massive proc damage. system is working as intended but oakfathers is NOT. tarnished does not do this on its own. dont exploit oakfathers and dont worry about being banned.

[@skulpturostone4621]

Or may be this is the way they want it to be?

[@xX.D3DP00L_Xx]

the way i see it is maybe they didnt intend it but ill be glad when bombers catch on and start wiping ball groups. i stood in a ball grpuo on my tank today and had 17 {possibly more}radiating on me. that should be an exploit, but it isnt. if heals can stack to that degree then oakfathers should also stack that high.

[@thapoloking]

Damn right

[@JTKGAMING14]

I mean I agree heal stacking needs to be fixed. But oak father's is not good. What happens then those ball groups start using it against you. The amount of debuffs that a ball group can stack on you is crazy.

[@demon_killer3065]

Everyone hates on the ball groups for haveing 12 players working together but it's ok to be in a 100 man Zerg. My ? Is how do u fight a Zerg then?

[@1donu]

@@demon_killer3065 The ball wouldnt be that heavy if the heal stack is not allowed. the Ball mostly live cause of a broken passiv stack. you can say what you want, but ballgroup is way too op since years. a 12 man discord group will anythime beat Zergs, but pls not with heal stacking....

[@demon_killer3065]

@@1donu zergs cross heal to we can agree to disagree

[@user-jz8uu7yc2m]

Not seeing it on console. Proxy det with the tarn night just tickles everyone.

[@JTKGAMING14]

Poxy has to proc tranished or it won't work

[@bminturn]

I have shot it into ball groups using silver shards and I don't see what people are talking about.

[@JTKGAMING14]

Yer because thats not how it's bugged

[@irishsage2459]

It works on buffs and debuffs...not damage. Try caltrops and see what you come up with

[@daledelatte9607]

​@irishsage2459 it's not the debuff, it's the 250% ramp from inevitable detonation

[@bminturn]

@@daledelatte9607 hmm. That seems like something that will probably get you reported for using an exploit at this point.

[@daledelatte9607]

@@bminturn it's not an exploit, it's a feature

[@DS-lk3tx]

Idgaf... its the backbard set my silly sorc needed. 😂 The glacial meltage is on an industrial scale. 😂

[@melting-snowflakes.602]

All Zos have to do is stop making ball group counter sets, but just remove the stupid buff stacking.

[@TenzaOnryoGaming]

Zos have the combined intelligence(in regards to balancing) a chimpanzee

[@channtr]

Shhhh gotta keep oakfathers on the low.

[@nelson_rebel3907]

Theres more than one exploit going around right now just an FYI for everyone

[@JTKGAMING14]

Sure is

[@Seneca-uy1ly]

Magicka Detonation(Assault Skill) Critical hit may trigger the bug, and cause tarnished nightmare make a huge damage. I have seen many screenshots from my friends' death recaps just one night. Apparently , players are using it .Some (stealthy nightblade mostly)are using Inevitable Detonation remote trigger the tarnished nightmare bomb.😂

[@elloco9135]

I dont like that I have to inform myself somewhere on the internet to find out which sets can get me banned if I use them.

[@relaxingsounds3233]

Makes no sense getting banned for just playing the game

[@jonathanjimmyshearman2500]

Hey Khajiit stars in this video, hi Khajiit😃......😊🙂🙂🙂🙂.

[@Jay-kk1ee]

I think the tarnished bug is great - getting 2-3mil ap a day on my nb just blowing up zerg groups. Its a solo players wet dream to just wreck these coward groups with 6 heal tanks 😮

[@tixzs]

I feel like you should build your build like you won't it's not a exploit. It's called testing and learning your build not just copying and paste ❤.

[@JTKGAMING14]

I mean it is an exploit, zos has stated this. But I agree, you should play and learn your builds

[@anannoyedpanda]

Ahhh ok. Well now i dont feel bad for mass reporting the ad zerg that was using this.

[@Dadpoweractivate]

Tf you talking about I just put the sets on but I don't think it's bugged.

[@JTKGAMING14]

If you are not seeing crazy damage numbers then you're all good. It's only when u use it in a specific way that it happens

[@Dadpoweractivate]

@@JTKGAMING14 interesting I hit a 22k once but I don't think I did anything to bug it I thought that was high though

[@WGWF1022]

@@Dadpoweractivate it's the people exploting and running up to 40k, 50k+ Tarnished damage.

[@daledelatte9607]

​@@Dadpoweractivateit's because you have to crit inevitable detonation to trigger the 250% ramp up in damage

[@_allthatjazz_8667]

Im using oakfarther and cinder on a nb bow build,ww and oakensoul users goodbye

[@JTKGAMING14]

Yer Oakfathers is nice. It's still UI buged but that doesn't effect it

[@_allthatjazz_8667]

@@JTKGAMING14 and with dawnbreaker even more damage to vamps,and almost everybody is because of undeath passive

[@JTKGAMING14]

True

[@dakotabyron8738]

Tarnished is op in pvp

[@blktauna]

Your kitty is adorable

[@irishsage2459]

+1 for kitty cuteness

[@SirSquash]

+ 1 for truth

[@jonathanjimmyshearman2500]

😻

[@eayers5578]

😓 Promo-SM

[@JTKGAMING14]

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[@baklava-tchai2247]

its zozs fault , banning people is crazy 🤦

[@JTKGAMING14]

With oak father's sure. But when some one has to do something they wouldn't normally do that's when it changes in my mind.

[@anannoyedpanda]

Banning people for bug exploitation is good for the game. The trash needs to be taken out.

[@kevinwyman7046]

"Not gonna explain how the exploit is done" essentially "let yourselves keep getting shit on and having your experience ruined in PvP for a month or longer with no counter until ZoS works it out". It'd be far better to let it out, let others take away the unfair advantage toy from those currently abusing it by using it against them.

[@JTKGAMING14]

It's in the comment section dude. And I don't think people should be using it. Zos told me on the forums to report any one doing it.

[@kevinwyman7046]

@@JTKGAMING14 I don't read other people's comments. Also, I'm a purest PvP'er and don't believe in being carried by any set that does damage for you, therefore I have no intention of using it. Sadly, it was a set I looked at with interest until I found out it was bugged. I think everyone who wants to though should be informed on how to even the playing field, because while there may be a fix in the works, people's experience is being ruined and NOTHING will happen to the people who have abused it. My main point is this: why make a video just to say "hey, there's this thing, but I'm not going to really discuss this thing, I just want to say there's this thing" like it isn't already being covered in-depth on the forums? Seems like a pointless video.

[@JTKGAMING14]

I get it dude. Talking about this stuff is always a fine line. The reason I made the video is, I wanted people to know it's not normal so they can maybe not get so mad by getting one shot. I have a feeling they might actually ban people for this. And I don't want to be the one that told peeps how to do it and they get banned.

[@viciousct8176]

@@kevinwyman7046you’re a pure pvper who doesn’t believe in proc sets that do damage for you? the set you were looking at with interest is literally that….

[@anannoyedpanda]

​@@kevinwyman7046You're trying to grand stand. You look like a fool.

[@Loveyourself1-o4i]

You said a lot of nothing in this video.