Zs190 things you should know

[@kyerafling8177]

Anyone who gestures with the hand they hold their cigarette with, while explaining something is someone I will listen to entirely lol 😂 thanks for the info! Really helpful

[@parkersgarage4216]

🤣😂🤣😂 thanks Gia, glad it helped you out.

[@buildguy8110]

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[@s2wheels]

Some people can kill anything! Its like as soon as they touch it. The break it, not even giving a thought. That it could be just been their fault. I got motors particularly 1 almost 16yrs old. Doesn't even smoke still runs like SOB. I've raced it road course style for years. Keep up the good work.

[@parkersgarage4216]

You got that right! They don't realize if you take care of it. then it takes care of you. They often blame the bikes when it's the owners fault. It's very easy to do research and common sense goes a long way. Changing oil in these cost nothing. If you're not doing it every 500 miles you're nuts. It isn't even a quart of oil lol. Thanks for watching and commenting. Take care and ride safe.

[@armanrgun47]

also, check how far the decompression pin protrudes under the rocker arm roller, on mine it was very very little. got to hammer the decomp lever retainer on the camshaft sprocket

[@chappy0690]

Wish I'd seen this sooner, had exactly the same problem which led to the starter chain snapping. Tried to kick start it to get it home, it back fired causing the kickstart idle gear to sh$t itself. Its cost me a new starter clutch, kickstart idle gear, new decomp spring and arm, I also found a uprated de comp arm retainer from ooracing. Fingers crossed it hasn't caused any more damage. Engine had only done about 20 miles!

[@armanrgun47]

@@chappy0690 well guess what had happened to the engine i then bought almost new for 200€...

[@ProfileP246]

Class! Are the engine mounts on that bike the same as a honda grom

[@kenichishirahamagremory6166]

Hello man, I have a question, what carburetor does that engine originally use? I'm looking for the model but I can't find it.

[@parkersgarage4216]

Do you want to know the brand or the size?

[@kenichishirahamagremory6166]

@@parkersgarage4216 I need both please

[@parkersgarage4216]

@@kenichishirahamagremory6166 when I bought mine the brand was a youall lol. The size was 30mm. I actually still have the carb new never installed. I went w a genuine mikuni flatslide instead. Mikuni was 28mm, you can use a 28mm or 30mm on the engine though.

[@kenichishirahamagremory6166]

@@parkersgarage4216 ah ok , thanks man .

[@parkersgarage4216]

@@kenichishirahamagremory6166 np

[@irocss85]

Great info

[@hondaxlrr5155]

Very helpful video One question do you think keihin pwk 35mm will run better or worse

[@parkersgarage4216]

I think a 35 may be too big. If you already have it though try it for sure.

[@Snowbikebro2]

be easy on first gear also. i broke mine and put the hd output shaft and first gear in it from the daytona motor. The original first gear stripped the teeth right off the new gear is 25% thicker. i do mountain climbs with my zs 190 because its in a pitbike. i beat the piss out of it.

[@parkersgarage4216]

Bear Good good to know, I sold mine as I’m getting a bigger bike. Not sure which one yet haven’t decided.

[@austint1151]

Does the daytona one fit right in with it being thicker? I've thought about replacing parts with daytona as they go out

[@Snowbikebro2]

@@austint1151 yes they are exactly the same bottom end but daytona has a few upgraded internal parts. yes the gears fit.

[@parkersgarage4216]

addmorebacon yes they are the same engine case size. No modification necessary at all.

[@austint1151]

@@parkersgarage4216 thats awesome. Tempted to change out the whole gearbox lol

[@austint1151]

Bro you better get an oil cooler on there...i put a piece of angle iron up front to mount it, either where the horn or airbox mounted, idr. Yours looks so much better than mine lol If you plan on stunting a fan on both sides of the the oil cooler is a good idea too

[@austint1151]

For that, you need a flange for the carb to make it face more backwards. Cleanest way i found to mount it

[@parkersgarage4216]

addmorebacon I did put the cooler on after I broke it in. I didn’t want metal going through the cooler getting stuck etc. I used the airbox location w brackets. For my intake I just flipped it to face backwards. I had to remove the petcock and cut mounting point off. Made new mount point sprayed frame gloss black done deal. I didn’t plan on stunting it but a fan would def help out 4 sure. I will tell you use Honda gn4 10w40 from you’re local Honda dealer. It shifted smoother w the Honda oil over everything else.

[@austint1151]

@@parkersgarage4216 that's a good idea, i got the magnetic oil plug to (hopefully) take care of all the metal, but I'll recommend people wait on the cooler now that you bring it up. I use Motul 7100 esther oil, expensive af but i have it for my ninja and it only takes like 1qt, similar results lol

[@parkersgarage4216]

addmorebacon lol yeah it doesn’t cost much to change. I was going to change drain plugs but never got around to it. The stock motor had a magnetic plug that woulda worked. I did 2 oil changes before I put cooler on. Did one at 25 miles and another at 200. Changed out filter each time as well.

[@austint1151]

@@parkersgarage4216 did your tach quit working? I've been over revving when i have the fat rear sprocket on it...i need either a tach or a cdi with rev limiter

[@justinatmidi]

Is there a difference between the black and the normal version? Or is this just cosmetics?

[@parkersgarage4216]

nope, simply cosmetics thats all. when i bought mine they both cost the same. my oem engine was also black so i went we w black. where do you plan on purchasing from?

[@matte.2145]

why are you going to grease your starter chain, which runs next to your stator, pick up sensor etc? why not just use dielectric grease for some simple lubricity/grease on the chain? why even grease it in a dry environment? which is sealed? that just seems silly to me....

[@parkersgarage4216]

well seeing as you dont know ill help you out. dielectric grease is used for electrical connections. its not sufficient to lube a starter chain. the starter chains are known to break on 190's and they come dry. theres other things that you should grease as well like the starter gear but that doesnt matter right now. you use a thicker grease to stick to the chain. it also protects the chain from rusting. the chain is only used to start the engine via the 1 way clutch then doesnt move anymore if i remember correctly. you also do not have to use a ton of grease on the chain. just coat it evenly is all w your fingers. the grease doesnt affect the stator in any way. you can however use dielectric for stator plug if u like. its also not a dry environment because that case cover isnt sealed. theres a big gaping hole in the bottom. when you take it off road on trails it will fill up w water and mud.

[@noncompliant209cali]

I seen a 212 swapped clone on Craigslist in my town but can't find any on youtube, is there a reason people only do the 190 and not the 212?

[@parkersgarage4216]

Most go with the 190 because it's cheaper. You could turn the 190 into a 212 though. I had alot of fun w my 190 thats for sure.

[@blown5.062]

The hp and torque ratings are the same on both engines so I went with 190 for the $ savings to spend on more mods.

[@josephsaucedo8691]

It because of the heat and over heating on the 212 you have to watch engine temperature more and live in a place that's not always hot with traffic. Same thing as most big bore kits Amy this over 200+ is hot getting to hot for the engine and the 190 about 300$ cheaper but you probably will pickup more power from the 4v head then the extra cc in less you do both 4v212 that's putting on a daytona bbk on a zs bottom

[@joereed7326]

Man ,that starter chain is a must know,,,the almighty zong is the logical conclusion to the mini bike ,,,its a bit swiss watch,,so approach whith science,,,chers m8🍀💪

[@parkersgarage4216]

Haha very true, cheers to you as well and ride safe. I went from my 190 swapped clone to a harley. I figured that was the next logical step lol.

[@wickylightyear3917]

I need to know the starter solenoid configuration, please. If u could show so.e video of that it would b great.

[@parkersgarage4216]

I would if I could but I sold it a while back. Sorry wish I could help you out.

[@jeffella2748]

Hey had a question I was having problems with my clutch my cable is not pulling the lever far enough to get it to engage also super stiff when I pull lever is that normal and what cable is best please help thanks names Jeff take care

[@parkersgarage4216]

It is a stiff pull for sure. Sounds like it's not adjusted right. I used a nibbi cable a while back. I'm sure there are plenty of good options out now.

[@jeffella2748]

Well yes I've tried everything I can to adjust it right but its just not fully engaging also it will creep forward just a little but still not fully engaged I bought the motor from David bullock and he hasn't helped me much at all just said some bullcrap

[@parkersgarage4216]

@@jeffella2748 i had an internal problem w my 190 that i fixed. i got it from bullock as well and he pretty much told me too bad. once i figured it out he asked me what was the issue. rest assured i didnt tell that mf how i fixed it. if you start it in gear w the lever pulled in and you off the bike does it slowly creep forward? is it next to impossible to put it in neutral while running? pretty much have to force it which is not normal. if it is like that do not ride it at all. thats what was wrong with mine. everyone tried telling me my clutch wasnt adj properly which wasnt the case. i dont recommend buying anything from bullock ever. go to a reputable dealer where if you have an issue it can be resolved. pitster is a great dealer.

[@parkersgarage4216]

@@jeffella2748 another thing also if you have it in first gear and let the clutch out does it stall?

[@jeffella2748]

Yes it stalls jerks hard then stalls instantly

[@jennydesai7076]

Hi m8 iam havin problems with my out let i think done everthing eles still bogs it starts give it revs and it cuts out with change all bits as my m8 got same bike i think it the out let vaules the carbs keep flooding would that be my problem

[@parkersgarage4216]

The carb flooding will Def cause it for sure. I'd check the needle for the float and check the jets. Depending on how much you've ridden it. It never hurts to check valve clearances. It may be improperly jetted as well. I'd start w the float and make sure all I mentioned is clean. Fix your flooding issue first then go from there.

[@mixalhsp.8189]

Where did you buy it from?

[@parkersgarage4216]

The engine I got off a guy on Facebook. I'd recommend pitster though. I had an issue w mine and dude told me to f myself. With pitster if there's an issue they'll help you figure it out. I wouldn't recommend buying an engine off the guy in the facebook group.

[@zackskinner2666]

what kind of bike breaks when you kick start it.

[@parkersgarage4216]

190's do

[@josephsaucedo8691]

The kind you race because of to much compression on kick back 🏍️👍✌️👌💯🥂

[@mototrials582]

You would be surprised,many.

[@user-kp8hx1mf8i]

Where do you buy the zs190 from?

[@parkersgarage4216]

Patrick L pitster pro, motor kit, or you can contact David bullock on Facebook. Just know if you buy from Dave there is no support etc. like from pitster pro.

[@MattDickey530]

Hey man i know its been a while but do you remember if your vader had a 5 pin cdi or a 4 pin?

[@parkersgarage4216]

I had a taotao hellcat, its a little different than a Vader. I had the 6 pin Cdi with 2 plugs on it.

[@jesus930]

I have a Vader with a 4 pin

[@humourless682]

You cant see the shift star without removing the clutch. A special tool is needed to remove the clutch nut........

[@parkersgarage4216]

Whoever told you that lied to you. You can see the shift star w out removing clutch. I made the socket to remove the clutch nut. There's no longer a need to add washers to shift star. Supposedly they do it at the factory now. In order to see the shift star all you have to do is take off the cover.

[@humourless682]

@@parkersgarage4216 Adrian, of OO Racing, seems to know what he is doing? This video will show what needs to be done to pre 2022 motors: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qIOyXoesrLaKis0

[@parkersgarage4216]

@@humourless682 ok bud, the pre 2022 engines did NOT have the washer over the shift star. You did NOT have to remove the clutch basket to install a longer bolt and big washer. I did it w out doing so. I rode my bike 1200 miles before I sold it. I also had an issue w the spline washer and flat washer behind clutch basket. Which I figured out and fixed. That big washer you see behind the basket is the shift star. That changed after I purchased my bike and built it. When I purchased my engine it did not have the washer on it. It only had a bolt, which tells me his motor is obviously newer. There may be another issue now that I'm not aware of. As all my vids are older now. I've since gotten away from these bikes and engines. I no longer keep up w them at all. Haven't for quite some time now. Pretty much going on 2 years very shortly. AGAIN on older engines the washer was not over the shift star. You had to install said washer or washers along w get a slightly longer bolt. It's been almost 2 years now so I don't really remember everything. You could very well see the shift star w no washer installed. I rode mine daily and it got me started into riding. I'd say prob the best purchase I made in a long time. I had alot of fun w that bike and went on many long rides. I rode to NY and back which was 65 mile 1 way many times. I will watch that vid as I'm familiar w oo. In the USA we can't get parts from them. So unless that changed not much to say beyond that.

[@nokimping4631]

Where did you put the ground wire on the motor?

[@parkersgarage4216]

Jake Beard I took the bolt that holds the plate where the clutch cable mounts to and put both grounds there.

[@nokimping4631]

@@parkersgarage4216 thank you

[@parkersgarage4216]

Jake Beard np 👍🏼

[@Diddleurdad]

Ive kicked my zs190cc 1000's off times. Super resilient engine. But yes he is right about star gear mod

[@anthonysullivan4202]

#1 thing, get daytona 4speed

[@djjbennett]

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