I RUINED My Space Marine Army...

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Zumikito Miniatures

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@Zumikito
@Zumikito 3 жыл бұрын
Name something as powerful as AK Interactive Ultra Matte Varnish! SPOILER: You can't
@PijamasGagarin
@PijamasGagarin 3 жыл бұрын
Need to try it, I usually use Lahmian medium to bring all colours to unified matt look.
@senorcapitandiogenes2068
@senorcapitandiogenes2068 3 жыл бұрын
Green Stuff World's MAXX Matt varnish
@bicskeiz
@bicskeiz 3 жыл бұрын
Dried oil paint? 😈
@RealgarTheSchist
@RealgarTheSchist 3 жыл бұрын
Liquitex ultra matte medium
@TashiMortier
@TashiMortier 3 жыл бұрын
@@bicskeiz Too soon! xD
@Blazetwoe
@Blazetwoe 3 жыл бұрын
I think it's important for hobbyists, all of us, from novices to veterans, to realise that mistakes will happen. This video was pretty motivating, we can always fix out hobby mistakes.
@sepharos2759
@sepharos2759 3 жыл бұрын
ill be honest, if something this big happened to me id just strip the lot and give up on making the deadline. Impressive to see him power through it
@calgar42k
@calgar42k 2 жыл бұрын
No you cant always fix mistakes, in this case oil wash an entire army instead of repeating the process figurine by figurine didn't represent a time gain anyway and we know what happened ! The mistake here is having unrealistic expectations of his workload, he lost several days and didnt get as good as a final result he could have. Never use dangerous or unfamiliar technics or new materials on a whole platoon or army... I m never using GW white undercoat ever again :)
@Blazetwoe
@Blazetwoe 2 жыл бұрын
@@calgar42k You can always fix hobby mistakes. Just strip the minis and restart in worst case scenario. Always keep experimenting in order to improve.
@calgar42k
@calgar42k 2 жыл бұрын
@@Blazetwoe stripping a min is time consuming not without consequences for the details and not very eco friendly ....
@Blazetwoe
@Blazetwoe 2 жыл бұрын
@@calgar42k There are eco friendly solutions to use, and yes it's time consuming but that does not mean it can't be fixed. This video alone proves that you can fix most mistakes, stripping is the last resort but you can still save the models.
@PijamasGagarin
@PijamasGagarin 3 жыл бұрын
Oh man, as soon as you have said that you left oils overnight I immediately knew that something bad is going to happen. Oh well, lesson learned and thank you for sharing this moment so we won't make the same mistake.
@isaliew
@isaliew 3 жыл бұрын
Same. I use oils in all my minis (even completely from oils on one) but I only do 10 minis at a time. Never needed varnish
@Antheraws
@Antheraws 3 жыл бұрын
Any suggestions on brands of oil washes and application procedures. Obviously I should leave it on overnight right?
@PixelWolv
@PixelWolv 3 жыл бұрын
@@Antheraws honestly i dont enjoy supporting Games workshops paints too much becauss their pots suck so damn bad and something like Vallejo will do the trick for a good bit less, the value of their Shade washes and contrast paints cannot be understated. Nuln oil and Reikland Fleshshade, maybe Agrax Earthshade and you will have most washes you will need, i got a gloss Reikland Fleshshade and it makes all the gross oozy poxwalkers and fleshy bits look all slimy and awesome. Contrast paint is just good for shading on something you dont really wanna spend time on lol
@TheCatHerder
@TheCatHerder 3 жыл бұрын
@@Antheraws Get some inexpensive oil paints (Windsor and Newton galleria are fine for washes) and a bottle of odorless thinner and mix them yourself. Marco Frisoni (NJM) has a lot of good videos on making use of oil washes.
@stephenchurch1784
@stephenchurch1784 3 жыл бұрын
@@Antheraws Abteilung 502 is a brand made for mini painting. Smaller pigment and shorter dry times than artist or craft oils. That may not seem like a good thing given this video but usually Windsor & Newton oils take 24-48 hours to dry and that can be a real pain if you're looking to keep working over them. They are also cheaper than citadel paints.
@Meuduso1
@Meuduso1 3 жыл бұрын
The ultra dark shadows and thick highlights give these marines almost a comic book or borderlands look, which looks pretty damn cool if you ask me
@IndianaSmallmouth
@IndianaSmallmouth 3 жыл бұрын
I miss the original perfection. These are a pale shade of how good those are and offends my OCD. The choice of white color scheme doomed you here. Great points about airbrush to save time on yellow and white.
@alecmiller5296
@alecmiller5296 3 жыл бұрын
I was going to say the same thing I’m thinking of making a unit or kill team in the cell shaded style
@Night_lightful
@Night_lightful 3 жыл бұрын
yeh like it more then the brush ink technic
@nrais76
@nrais76 3 жыл бұрын
This is one of - if not THE - most useful, technique-wise, videos I have ever seen. You very rarely see any mistakes in these videos, and you can be left thinking "Yeah, Its easy for superhuman Painter Man." Its good to know we all make mistakes sometimes, and specifically things to avoid if you're thinking about these techniques. And you exolain why you went with certain colors or certain tools at each stage. Now THAT is how to help people become better painters. It's only how you did it, but why. Teach a man to fish....
@Zaphodox
@Zaphodox 3 жыл бұрын
yeah, compared to his usual quality and skill; I jsut imagene the mess i would have gotten into.
@chrisgutteridge
@chrisgutteridge 3 жыл бұрын
yeah, coping with mistakes is a really big skill. For example, knowing that later on you'll be slapping weathering on means you can phone-in some steps and just apply rust/dirt over the top of any messy bits!
@ckoetael
@ckoetael 3 жыл бұрын
I can't even imagine how you could not give up everything after such a disaster, iron willpower!
@dekai7992
@dekai7992 3 жыл бұрын
Imperial Fists tier tenacity!
@UlsterRedGuard
@UlsterRedGuard 3 жыл бұрын
it was the Iron within
@Sharnelgon
@Sharnelgon 3 жыл бұрын
IRON WITHIN, IRON WITHOUT!
@PixelWolv
@PixelWolv 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly besides them obviously not looking quite the same as his previous army, that grime looked friggin AWESOME with a bit of fixing, definitely a good technique for something like nechrons or a more rusted Space Marine look,
@arg31ify
@arg31ify 3 жыл бұрын
"Soooo here's my totally planned black templars" :p
@wrappinggecko2517
@wrappinggecko2517 Жыл бұрын
POV: Him messing up a whole army is still better than anything you've ever painted.
@accipita
@accipita 3 жыл бұрын
oh dude that was painful to watch, but it looked amazing by the end. That many models in 10 days is mad. I've been painting marines in 5 model batches and they take 3-4 days each batch
@Zumikito
@Zumikito 3 жыл бұрын
That's what I used to do as well, hence it took 6 months before!
@lordcodger
@lordcodger 3 жыл бұрын
Gotta try and find the sweet spot. The amount you can do and not want to throw everything in the bin lol
@accipita
@accipita 3 жыл бұрын
@@lordcodger over lockdown/furlough I was able to paint a little bit every day so was probably getting a squad out every 2 weeks but taking my time and not stressing about it
@wipeout911
@wipeout911 3 жыл бұрын
This is probably a comment you get a lot but the fact that someone like you even refers to the hobby as a "grind" actually gave me motivation to keep going with my army. A lot of youtubers make painting look so easy and effortless that I often feel discouraged when I'm not enjoying an aspect of the process (it's basecoating for me, I hate doing it with a passion). But listening to you talk about "the light at the end of the tunnel" and that sometimes you just have to grind to get there was actually really motivating.
@Zumikito
@Zumikito 3 жыл бұрын
There is nothing fun about doing the same repetitive motion in exactly the same way a thousand times haha
@nekosomgaming
@nekosomgaming 3 жыл бұрын
Loving the "Don't listen so much to many thin layer squad, you don't work on being second Trovarion" attitude!
@bluemoka8992
@bluemoka8992 3 жыл бұрын
the guy won how many golden demons?
@Zumikito
@Zumikito 3 жыл бұрын
@@bluemoka8992 that is the point, you are not trying to win GD with a tabletop army
@bluemoka8992
@bluemoka8992 3 жыл бұрын
@@Zumikito yeah exactly, we are talking two different worlds. But if your goal is to paint an army in a week obviously you shouldn't watch trovarion? Why even mention him? The guy gets hate cause he is pretty good and people are envious
@bluemoka8992
@bluemoka8992 3 жыл бұрын
@@Zumikito oh, next time you mess up with oil paints drying time, use a sprinkler with white spirit in it and spray the models, wait for the paint to activate again and use some make up sponges. In this case the colours were somewhat still wet, this approach would have saved the models
@Zumikito
@Zumikito 3 жыл бұрын
@@bluemoka8992 I think that the previous comment praised Trovarion, because he paints so well, it doesn't make sense to try to paint entire army like that! I personally love the guy. Also, the steps that you are suggesting are exactly what I did - I dipped the mini in the white spirit before I started. If I didn't do that it wouldn't move at all
@rogthepirate4593
@rogthepirate4593 3 жыл бұрын
"Pick an army that doesn't have too many details" Me, who apparently hates himself and loves suffering: "Chaos Space Marines it is."
@Nempo13
@Nempo13 3 жыл бұрын
Could be worse. Have you SEEN some of the Ork models? However, mistakes on them add to the charm.
@acidcoen
@acidcoen 3 жыл бұрын
Oh man, the pain that poured out of the screen was almost pallitable. I bet the feeling of accomplishment after you were all done was immense though. I'm about to start batch painting some blightlord terminators and I definetly won't wait with the oil wash. Thanks for the unintended pro tip!
@Zumikito
@Zumikito 3 жыл бұрын
I thought that I am gonna quit and give them good ol' isopropyl aclohol bath and restart without making the video. But hell, I was too invested to quit!
@michaelsorensen7567
@michaelsorensen7567 3 жыл бұрын
First, palatable. Second, the pain was tasty? Or did you mean palpable, meaning able to be felt?
@KrivTheBard
@KrivTheBard 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly it looked like waiting a full day with the oils and rubbing off some of the paint could be a cool weathering technique for a real battle worn model 👀 Seems like a Bob Ross style happy accident to me!
@michaelsorensen7567
@michaelsorensen7567 3 жыл бұрын
Learning, sure, but not a thing he wanted on this particular model set lol
@alabasterscarf612
@alabasterscarf612 3 жыл бұрын
I think that's what Ninjon does.
@debdasilva1694
@debdasilva1694 3 жыл бұрын
Not suprised that you still managed to clutch it and make the whole army look awesome despite the disaster. You're awesome man, mad respect!
@BarelySentientBraincell
@BarelySentientBraincell 3 жыл бұрын
"We don't make mistakes, just happy little accidents." - Bob Ross I think this army has amazing weathered patina to it. It's unique and definitely in a good way.
@abaddon7558
@abaddon7558 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, it was maybe a mistake that cost you in terms of working time, but in the end it still looks great, plus the hard black shadows and the rough aspect gives them a "Darkest Dungeon" vibes. Well done sir, you have now transform a disaster into a "lucky" accident ;)
@emiliomartin9815
@emiliomartin9815 3 жыл бұрын
Actually, I'm waiting for my Darkest Dungeon Kickstarter to arrive later this year, and this gave me a lot of ideas. Probably not the finish that Zumikito was hoping for, but still great in my view and very inspiring :)
@jirojhasuo2ndgrandcompany745
@jirojhasuo2ndgrandcompany745 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah it did ngl
@das5842
@das5842 5 ай бұрын
I'm really sorry that happened to you, and can feel your pain from mishaps of my own many years ago when I was a kid and couldn't afford to scrap anything. You did a great job saving them as well as you did (and they are certainly usable), but to be honest it is pretty obvious, especially compared against your normal level of quality. Thank you for sharing the lesson!
@Eviscerator18
@Eviscerator18 3 жыл бұрын
As someone with extreme confidence issues painting, this would have made me quit the hobby. Thank you for being an example of never giving up. You're army looks great!
@GoblinGreen2021
@GoblinGreen2021 3 жыл бұрын
I love this channel! So funny! EDIT: I just got to the oil wash bit, NOOOO!!!!! Well done for sticking with it, they all look great!!!! :)
@znufer
@znufer 3 жыл бұрын
I know it was painful for you but as i'm about to do the same next week, the information about the dry oil wash is a blessing. Thank you very much for sharing your mistake so we can learn from it!
@kevinhayes517
@kevinhayes517 3 жыл бұрын
Great video….love your delivery style, feel your pain at some of the bumps in the road, and really enjoyed the music you used for the end shots of the completed army. Thanks very much!
@unchartedways
@unchartedways 3 жыл бұрын
I think they turned out great and that "mistake" it's a fantastic lesson about oils!
@IndianaSmallmouth
@IndianaSmallmouth 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed!
@ericb7680
@ericb7680 3 жыл бұрын
The maddening redo may have been a nightmare, but I think they came out superior! This isn't a "save" imo, it's a branch in a different artistic direction through fate. Often mistakes turn into something we didn't want initially, but are actually a potential new technique. Bravo. Love your videos.
@xuruiyu
@xuruiyu 3 жыл бұрын
What's funny is, the weathering caused by scraping off all that excess shade actualy made them look more battle-damaged and "grimdark"
@saltfreegamer
@saltfreegamer 3 жыл бұрын
Congrats on finishing your army! That was a tough road, but pivoting and adapting was the right call. I think we should try to see mistakes as a chance to be creative and problem solve, bailing and restarting is how minis end up unpainted. Thanks so much for persevering and sharing it!
@Zumikito
@Zumikito 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I agree with you, I couldn't see myself go through the basecoating process again, I would carry too much resentment
@Falafel6723
@Falafel6723 3 жыл бұрын
Ima be honest for a second. I weirdly like the look from the 'mistake', it gives them a more battle weathered, veteran sorta feel. May not be what you were origionally going for but its really cool either way.
@TheCRAZYEYES1000
@TheCRAZYEYES1000 2 жыл бұрын
10:29 Honestly if I saw that I would think it was intentional. Definitely would have rolled with it.
@QUIRISS
@QUIRISS 3 жыл бұрын
What a great video! I liked it more than some of the recent Marvel movies. It has everything: - charismatic main character (with THE beard) - cheerful beginning - dramatic middle act - epic music at the end Perfection! :)
@Zumikito
@Zumikito 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@alexbrown1930
@alexbrown1930 3 жыл бұрын
Most important lesson: sometimes mistakes are the best thing that can happen, as I think the fixing the varnish mistake made thrm look even better.
@oleg_1016
@oleg_1016 3 жыл бұрын
Oh my god those look amazing. I'm new to the whole army painting stuff and I've been working on my own army, imperial fists and I haven't even got them all together yet I start and them I just start to see the road ahead and I get discouraged but seeing you hit that wall and still clime over it is actually inspiring.
@boredmagala5701
@boredmagala5701 Жыл бұрын
Honestly the models looked interesting with the varnish on, like the gross green smog from the 9th edition codex cover art(which doesn’t look great on the cover but is an interesting color scheme for a model lol)
@ionceateapinecone
@ionceateapinecone 3 жыл бұрын
Just tossing it out there: makeup brushes aren't just good for drybrushing, they are also really good for cleaning up messes exactly like this. they can hold a fair amount of spirits and the gentle hairs of the brush are less abrasive on the acrylics. This is coming from the guy who literally never varnishes before oils or enamels.
@bungendores_finest
@bungendores_finest 2 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed watching this video. I haven’t started painting my first set of Ultra Marines yet but holy cow that was the thickest coat of red I have seen applied to a helmet haha. My favourite part was when you saved all of them with the lovely re coat of paint once the varnish was cleaned. Awesome work.
@barbos1507
@barbos1507 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, it's so wierd to look at 2000 pts now. In 6th or 7th this would at max took 800-1000 pts. I'm so glad warhammer now is more skirmish than it was before.
@IndianaSmallmouth
@IndianaSmallmouth 3 жыл бұрын
It is not. Ask any non marine player.
@rod.h8064
@rod.h8064 3 жыл бұрын
The Dreadnought is like 600 pts, the HQ's like 200 pts, and I think the bikes are 200-300 for a squad of 3
@zoesan4517
@zoesan4517 Жыл бұрын
The oil shade and thick edge highlights give it a cool cell-shaded look
@shieldtrigger
@shieldtrigger Жыл бұрын
Yeah! Its like easy mode edgy comic book style
@Gebunator
@Gebunator 3 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile, as ork player "Use same color scheme", "The head is where you should spend more time"Wooot? Though really, the uniform color scheme I have for infantry is pants, boots and chest straps. Rest is whatever i fancy doing, though mostly blue since.. DEFFSKULLS DA BEST I do like the "ruined" look. Looks like the marines been on loooong campaign and haven't had the time to polish their gear to parade condition.
@bigguy9154
@bigguy9154 3 жыл бұрын
The only good Ork is a red Ork
@The9thCobra
@The9thCobra 3 жыл бұрын
Man I do really love the read helmets. The perfect paint job of the older models really shows a parade ready unit preparing to show off to the high lords or something. The new ones look like they just won some major battle and tried really hard to clean up but just couldn’t fix all the battle damage, like a parade still on the planet they conquered. Still super cool love them all! Just for different reasons. Good job!
@CourtneyVarner
@CourtneyVarner 3 жыл бұрын
Me, an admech player looking at how many models makes 2000 points in space marines. MUST BE NICE.
@Zombuny
@Zombuny 3 жыл бұрын
*cries in tau*
@sugarayyy
@sugarayyy 3 жыл бұрын
Im crying in endless Hybrid Acolytes batch painting as well.
@hendersonx
@hendersonx 3 жыл бұрын
Cries in kings of war goblin
@madflam3192
@madflam3192 6 ай бұрын
Laugh and cry in monster mash 'nids
@smoth7
@smoth7 4 ай бұрын
That is your army composition. Cry more in skill issue toaster groper
@nekohacker2265
@nekohacker2265 2 жыл бұрын
Just a tiny advise on something that you might not know and is kind of subtle. I don't recommend using metalic paints on a wet pallet, the tiny shiny particles will pass trough and go in the sponge underneath the paper and will overtime damage it. Have fun painting ^^
@ruaridhmackenzie3215
@ruaridhmackenzie3215 3 жыл бұрын
Still laughing at 'Do you know what takes longer than applying a colour?' Great video, seems lots of the crrators are doing how to paint your army quickly these last few weeks.
@lijo03
@lijo03 9 ай бұрын
I gotta say, very well saved! They turned out great! It's interesting, too, to see the result of your thicker paints. I cringed when I saw you put the red on the helmet, but, again, it turned out really good! Thanks for the video!
@MrRipchop
@MrRipchop 3 жыл бұрын
I agree about the "thin layers" thing. Paint consistency is a tool just as much as anything else, and knowing when and how you use a tool is more important that sticking to an old adage.
@heymanchan9007
@heymanchan9007 Ай бұрын
You know, the different way and technique you used to fix the problem is SO COOL
@kjnash4149
@kjnash4149 3 жыл бұрын
Unreal man!! Smashed it
@Zumikito
@Zumikito 3 жыл бұрын
Hell yea!
@MarkusMaximus2000
@MarkusMaximus2000 3 жыл бұрын
This is one of the most useful hobby videos out there. By sharing how things went wrong and how you dealt with it mentally and physically is more useful than a step by step guide for perfection. Thanks for sharing the pain and the beautiful minis.
@saphirone8030
@saphirone8030 3 жыл бұрын
Okay I definitly see how that is an absolute paintjob ruiner when you are aiming for something, but honestly, while it might not have been your original plan, holy hell did you turned that around. They look like they just came out of an hellish crusade where you can barely afford 2 minutes of rest (pretty much like your week it seemed) and yet they are still coming to get you.
@rtgh2010
@rtgh2010 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant recovery. I have hit problems and it’s time for a full paint strip. Next time I will try and fix and recover.
@angelsoffurtitude
@angelsoffurtitude 3 жыл бұрын
How Fast? spray paint all of it 1 single color Dip everything in nuln oil jobs done
@Zumikito
@Zumikito 3 жыл бұрын
Nice, I prefer to play Ravenguard with only bases, they are really stealthy!
@angelsoffurtitude
@angelsoffurtitude 3 жыл бұрын
@@Zumikito Or purple orks with only bases, because nobody has ever seen a purple ork
@13Robzilla
@13Robzilla 3 жыл бұрын
Bang up job, feel you on the waiting too long with the oils. Thanks for sharing and please stay safe.
@Merrexz
@Merrexz 3 жыл бұрын
This video came just in time, I started a yellow army using the exact same approach a few weeks prior to seeing this and am approaching the oil wash stage. It is almost certain I would have messed it up if I hadn’t stumbled across this in time. Thank you for preemptively saving my sanity!
@Zumikito
@Zumikito 3 жыл бұрын
Keep in kind that you have like a few hours and you are good to go!
@Averous999
@Averous999 3 жыл бұрын
Have had similar experience in the past. If you take your cheap synthetic brush, use it to wash mineral spirits over the oil it will reactivate quite quickly and you can strip it easily without removing your varnish layer.
@patrickpatrick5105
@patrickpatrick5105 11 ай бұрын
I am doing my first commissioned paint and have been doing these steps before watching the video. It is validating that I am not completely messing things up. Still a lot of fun and a great learning experience.
@wikyWargaming
@wikyWargaming Жыл бұрын
On a lot of models with large-ish surface areas, I'll glop a thick blob of paint on and spread it about until it's smooth and covers everything I wanted it to. Works pretty well!
@Sunstreaker89
@Sunstreaker89 11 ай бұрын
Why not soak in mineral spirits to soften and remove the wash? Would it melt the models?
@julienpique7415
@julienpique7415 10 ай бұрын
You salvaged it really good and it gave them a Darkest Dungeon vibe, well done ;)
@kgeo2686
@kgeo2686 3 ай бұрын
Ngl, besides the oil wash mistake, I think this is one of the best army pairing tutorials out there. I think the oil wash and wipe method is a game changer. I’m gonna do all this
@Solarinas
@Solarinas 3 жыл бұрын
Had a feeling I knew what had happened once you brought up doing a Wash, that was a lesson I learned long ago when I was painting my first collection and using a Flesh Wash on the heads.
@lnlnd
@lnlnd 10 ай бұрын
If I ever face that there would be a rage table flip first, then I would try to strip everything away chemically, destroying plastic in the process and ending up with no minis, lost money, time, and nerves. I've been there twice, ruining my work completely and starting over. Honestly, I envy your patience. Because I am impatient. I know that really well, so I learned not to rush (even if I want) the hard way.
@flyingvacuum597
@flyingvacuum597 3 жыл бұрын
Zumikito, that is some velvety looking helmets on your bladeguard! Aside from the mega black wash, what reds did you use?
@Zumikito
@Zumikito 3 жыл бұрын
mephiston red base, added vemillion and ivory to highlight them (vallejo)
@JK-uq9gh
@JK-uq9gh 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing that tough experience, I appreciate wisdom coming from it, I wish you all the best with further projects!
@rickjensen2740
@rickjensen2740 4 ай бұрын
At 1:55 you shared a 13 step workflow for your army. I am curious if you have created any videos specifically on workflow for either an individual miniature or army. Also curious if you live in the US or outside as I have not seen you at Adepticon as an instructor (unless I missed it).
@kosachilles2504
@kosachilles2504 3 жыл бұрын
That battle cry was the best 😂 great video man!!
@drukawski
@drukawski 3 ай бұрын
I made the same mistake oil washing my White Scars the first time I did a big batch of them. Instead of scrubbing off the oil wash, I got good results soaking everyone in spirits and just checking every few mins until it was easy to clean again. A few years ago I decided clean white paint schemes look kind of cartoon-ish, and I really like more realistic weathered/chipped/dirty paint schemes so I went back an repainted it all. Browns (burnt umber/sienna/van dyke brown/etc.) along with the black in the oil wash help a lot as well.
@Pughhead
@Pughhead 3 ай бұрын
I respect the grind here and the fact you wanted to experiment with some techniques. To be fair the "mistake" did look really unique and weathered, not all units in an army have to have the exact same paint scheme and weathering
@DeusVult-rg3mq
@DeusVult-rg3mq 3 жыл бұрын
I almost did this too. But that was a fantastic recovery. Well done!
@mattpreston1298
@mattpreston1298 3 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure you've saved a future project of mine making that mistake. Glad you were able to salvage it, even at the expense of time and frustration.
@Zumikito
@Zumikito 3 жыл бұрын
Dude, just make sure that you apply the oil wash in batches and fix it right away - it wasn't an issue on my dreadnought. Good luck!
@superpatatine4415
@superpatatine4415 3 жыл бұрын
This oil thing...I don't cry often, but you made me cry. Painting process can be so terrific, but it can also be so infuriating. Which goes to show it happens even to the best! In such a situation, I would have ended up in the side safety position, crying, tearing my hair out and chewing on their roots for days... Cheers to you for not having screwed everything up (at least not in front of the camera...). Keep the good work!
@Cramduck
@Cramduck 3 жыл бұрын
I am curious if you could airbrush mineral spirits and let rest for a few minutes to soften the oil wash. should make it easier to wipe away.
@elitewecker
@elitewecker Жыл бұрын
Even thou the result is not the one you wanted. The army is amazing. And as many others already mentioned, mistakes will happen, so deal with them. Love your content. I'm only 6 month into the miniature painting hobby, but your chanrl has been a mayor help. Keep it up!
@mraide
@mraide 3 жыл бұрын
excellent recovery and love the camo pattern on the scouts
@thelasteinherjar6115
@thelasteinherjar6115 3 жыл бұрын
Just like to say that I really appreciate your videos, mate! The fact that you show this hobby, warts and all is really refreshing! Most pro painters only want you to see the end result of their minis and not the fuck ups that follow in between the amazing end result. As someone who regularly messes up and has beaten myself up as a result, it's great to see that it can happen to anyone and is motivating to see you pull through and fix up the fuck up. Well done man and the army ended up looking great 👍
@goosterpaints731
@goosterpaints731 3 жыл бұрын
I like your videos a lot and this is one of the best. It’s great to see that even the ’pros’ experience troubles sometimes. I just did a small scale army project myself on a tight schedule. It was 17 mini strong. Started oilwashing for the first time around 10pm. Had three shades in two dilutions to get max variety. Luckily I didn’t leave cleanup for the next day, but ended finishing around 3pm. Great technique and for a first time the results and overall project time saved were very impressive…but even so, you need to time manage that stage too.
@sicariusdracus
@sicariusdracus 3 жыл бұрын
Nice! Glad you recovered from the oil wash! Great tutorial on white.
@KantFromEC
@KantFromEC 3 жыл бұрын
In a weird way the over zealous wash made a kind of cool cell shaded effect once stripped back. May not be what you want but there's definitely a unique style there.
@evileyeball
@evileyeball 9 ай бұрын
My most recent project (Chaos Legionary Kill Team) My secret tech was to Basecoat the ENTIRE miniature in SILVER on top of my grey primer Then Fill in the armour panels with the red or black colour I wanted for them while avoiding the trim as best i could which saved me all the time of picking out all the silver trim around each panel.
@AZRAEL9091
@AZRAEL9091 2 жыл бұрын
honestly hats off to you to still finish it after the oil disaster, I know the tentation to just throw it in glanzer would have been real
@marcomarterer7232
@marcomarterer7232 11 ай бұрын
I haven´t thought about it but looking back on the time I did oil painting I remember the paint dried really slowly, That meant when covering parts of the canvas I had to wait days for it to dry out before continuing. I imagine the same thing in reverse happened here. On the first day, the wash went dry but the oil paint particles hadn´t "hardened" yet
@TheMasterLynx
@TheMasterLynx 3 жыл бұрын
I think I screamed "Nooooo!!! NOOOO" just watching this as much as you actually did. You saved em in the end, and the cartoonish outline is looking good. How much sufference tho XD
@wellard32
@wellard32 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, my heart did go out to you about the oils, but great recovery
@ianpettman7482
@ianpettman7482 3 жыл бұрын
Well done mate. You really pulled that together. I hope your sanity didn't suffer too much.
@leonardovidal2384
@leonardovidal2384 3 жыл бұрын
I am basically a newbie in all of this miniature painting stuff but most acrylic paint has a set up time to either reflect it's full range of colors or dry completely. So taking a 5 days approach is a very brave project. and I got a lot of knowledge from this. Thank you.
@dmvdh4270
@dmvdh4270 3 жыл бұрын
Cool vid! Congrats on pushing through!
@grotwurksmekshop6607
@grotwurksmekshop6607 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. I am aiming for a Thousand Sons Army like this (and have a world eaters commissions unsing 30k scheme) and this helps a ton!
@andydoran6272
@andydoran6272 3 жыл бұрын
Jesus, you da man. I have no idea how you stayed motivated to finish that…and that was before the varnish problem occurred. Full kudos to you.
@jeremiahembs5343
@jeremiahembs5343 2 жыл бұрын
Keep a little acetone on hand. 1 to 10 ratio of acetone in water will make a solvent that can lift oil paints. It can attack plastics though so use it sparingly.
@mdmnmdllr
@mdmnmdllr 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting to see this vid and watch your process roll out in this type of setting! I was curious to see you put metallics onto your wet palette, however; most of the advice I've seen on that is to avoid doing so, because the metal flakes pass through the paper and get into the sponge material where it can affect other normal paints. You don't find that an issue at all?
@xTheZapper
@xTheZapper 3 жыл бұрын
The oil wash is a popular technique with military model kit builders, I use it all the time for mine, but I'd never mix it is thick as you did. It's worth mentioning that the gloss varnish you put on underneath has to be strong with no gaps, and it *MUST* be acrylic/water based, if it's spirit based it'll come off when you try to clean it up with white spirit. Also, even though white spirit shouldn't attack water based acrylic paint, it will if you put too much pressure on or use too much spirit. This would have been fine to leave for a day or more if you'd diluted the oil paint a bit more, I've wiped off oil wash weeks later after applying it.
@surtrpicks
@surtrpicks 3 жыл бұрын
Warts and all. Thank you for the process full frontal. They look great!
@Birdoggydog
@Birdoggydog 3 жыл бұрын
Big respect for sharing it even though you weren't as satisfied (at least that what it sounded like to me). I think it looks absolutely amazing, and learning to work through mistakes is part of the fun!
@Zumikito
@Zumikito 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Definitely not satisfied with them haha - you will really know what I mean once you see my new video, since that is the result I was aiming for!
@spyder335
@spyder335 3 жыл бұрын
Good quick work it took me like 7 hours to base coat 4 crisis suits today. Still not finished.
@Dro250
@Dro250 3 жыл бұрын
Looks great man, I am glad you managed to save them from the oil wash! They look fantastic!
@guillaumeb5511
@guillaumeb5511 3 жыл бұрын
I have not painted in twenty years or so but I got the itch back and ordered everything I need to start again and let me tell you: it is so very reassuring to see that experienced painters can f up and that not everything is lost when that happens.
@commanderstorm8874
@commanderstorm8874 3 жыл бұрын
You know that’s actually a really cool way to get east weathering on your models if your willing to spend the time to clean them up
@Dreadtomb
@Dreadtomb 3 жыл бұрын
I love that you mention seeing progress in every model to stay motivated. Batch painting almost ruined the hobby for me. Had to start painting no more than 3 models at a time maximum.
@mtgplayer1239
@mtgplayer1239 3 жыл бұрын
they look really cool and battle-experienced with the weathering, i like the result
@awesome_claw
@awesome_claw 3 жыл бұрын
I have always striggled with oil washes. Each time I try to clean them off I find that I end up rubbing off the underlying paint, or the white spirit eats into it. I've tried multiple combinations of different washes, different brands of spirit or thinners, etc. I have come to the conclusion that I am cursed, so I just use them for recess and panel lining and clean up by repainting rather than cleaning away the wash.
@ernestgoettlich5399
@ernestgoettlich5399 3 жыл бұрын
The hard weathering actually looks really cool. Sometimes it's better to be lucky than good
@lawrencebostock7539
@lawrencebostock7539 3 жыл бұрын
Well done for finishing and finishing the video, also they still look amazing
@danielmacdonald4175
@danielmacdonald4175 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the tips. Planning to speed paint a small thousand sons army. Using streaking grime to make it a bit more grim dark. Im just not looking forward to doing all the trim…. I’ll definitely be making a step by step plan now! Thanks! Keep up the great work
@simmo8823
@simmo8823 2 ай бұрын
Great video ! As a newb I found this very informative I seem to be taking ages to paint my minis also Where did you get the stencil for the eliminators camo looks great
@rumenmatanov303
@rumenmatanov303 3 жыл бұрын
And here I am, struggling to finish 10 Warp Talons for my true scale Night Lords for an year+! :D Cool stuff man, at least you're ready for the Magor to come!
@Zumikito
@Zumikito 3 жыл бұрын
Already have been with my old marines hah! Thanks!
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