How To Select Your 3800 Pulley Size | Behind the Builds | ZZPerformance

[@254967conwell]

He is spot on about Regals, have an 02 GS. Bought it with a blown engine. First thing I did was a new long block from Summit racing and a 3" cat back and the new ZZP full size IC. Ported the SC and threw on ZZP full header setup and fender well CAI. 3.0 pulley with 42 lb injectors Yella Terra 1.8 roller rockers and lifters. Had it tune to get every inch out of it and now its a 12 second car on street tires. Ran it 3 times in the 1/4 mile and beat a 440 GTX, and 396 Chevelle twice best time was 12.9 on a cool night with 100 octane race gas

[@dlagrua]

I run a 3.4" Pulley on my 3800SC series III. It has the gen V suopercharger Improved exhaust, and SSIC. Car is a 2900lb Pontiac Fiero. Loads of power and no KR's. Running Sunoco 94 premium gasoline. The SSIC makes a huge difference,

[@torturedsoulcafe4722]

Great videos I've used your guys parts in my 2004 impala SS n everything's runs great on 93o with bunch of mods cold air, new larger dual exhuast, colder plugs, n wireset with 3.5 inch pulleycars more new then old with all the replaced parts now just need a pcm tune to finish it off

[@SteveLowe65]

Joe Blow's fuckin' gas station down the street LOL

[@timosman9172]

I've had an 07 Grand Prix GT/SC for 10 years now. I'm running a CAI, zzp power logs 3in catless DP, and 3.6 pulley. Where I'm at there's only 1 gas station that has e85 but I've been running 1 gallon of e85 and then topping it off with 93 octane and it drives like a wet dream! Even in cold weather the 1 gallon of e85 doesn't affect driveability at all. Edit: I've also got a tuned ECU from overkill motorsports (IDK if they're even still around anymore)

[@johnoigreen1116]

What is the math on figuring out the belt size for a 2.8 pulley?

[@ericlewis5035]

Nice video. I'm still learning how to setup a 3800 supercharged motor. I'm still trying to figure out what I want fir my 04 Pontiac grand prix gtp

[@travischaddock4826]

I just bought one of these for 2k as a daily driver. I had no idea it was supercharger til after I bought it. I'm actually very impressed how quick these cars are for there price. Already on the search for another 3.8 to build when this one goes.

[@Erik-kp1ux]

2000 regal GSE. Zzp 1.9 rockers, SD headers, Zzp 3.25 pulley, zzp ported gen3 from a ssm90 build, 42.5# Lucas injectors, Zzp tuned. Ran a 13.20@104 in AZ summer 100*+ weather. Just ordered my short stack intercooler. A supercharged car never should've been allowed to sell here without a intercooler. May 6th 2020 already 107* today in the shade. Running 100/91 octane fuel.

[@SteveLowe65]

Note that 'premium' fuel Octane rating varies with altitude - 91 is the highest available in Colorado, which is why I switched to E85

[@bowenrylan5873]

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[@maximusdeshawn4409]

@Bowen Rylan Yup, I've been using InstaFlixxer for months myself =)

[@normanmadden]

If you are lucky; sometime the premium pump tank gets filled with regular at some stations.

[@chrisauwerda8521]

Made it strait forward, simple to understand, as only wish the build will be so. Thanks. a motivational post no doubt.

[@jessjohn6157]

Riviera is a g body car, in fact by wiki, the g body design for fwd first started in the 95 riviera, learned something new about my car today with some research lol nice

[@timothydawson7711]

"G platform" I own a platform and a "G Body' also

[@c.mcdermo]

I just bought a 96 and it's so fun

[@victormax2190]

What is the pest pulleys for Monte Carlo 2005 ss pls tell me I will be so thankful and I am buying the stage 2 intercooler system is a lot of money but I love my car 🤗

[@ZZPerformanceChannel]

Hey Victor, your pulley size will largely depend on what you plan on doing with the car and how much power you want to make. Contact us at [e-mail] and we can give you some suggestions.

[@sietafak]

Needs an edit with e85/pulley size. Cheers!

[@ralphcooper6985]

I am new to the 3800 I learned very fast build trans first then worry about power. But I did score a $1000 regal gse. Let the building begin:)

[@brianmarcello3329]

I need help on how this would apply to my 2002 Nissan Frontier C.C. 4x4 Supercharged with an Eaton M62, please.

[@joeglenaman4148]

Soooo I’m running 93 octane on 12lbs max boost and a 3.2 pulley. Is there an issue here? This is regarding what was said in the video around 1:35

[@luisvelez1751]

I have just one question. I have a zzperformance 3.8 pulley on my 99 M90 supercharger. I have that charger on a acura TL-S motor V6 . Bigger injectors , fuel pump , -8 feed , heads are built , bigger headers and alot more done. I have it in a honda delsol . Question is , am I running a good size pulley❓ wish I can post a video or pic . Thank you

[@joseluisruiz3789]

Can i get away with a 3.6 inch pulley on my 2002 Buick Park Avenue Ultra using 91 Octane with ZZ Performance 10.5mm spark plugs, ZZ Performance Ignition Coil packs and a Cold Air Intake? My stock Pulley is a 3.8 i believe. I am currently restoring my park avenue Ultra so im buying whatever new parts i can find. Just replaced my fuel pump with stock OEM since it had some off brand that gave out. Current mileage is 142,000 miles exactly.

[@chokenstad]

Did you end up running a 3.6? I have a park ave as well and I'm doing the same mods as you, plus 1.0 pcm and front log

[@joseluisruiz3789]

@@chokenstad unfortunately no, I was hoping to hear a legit reply from these guys and buy the pulley from them but here we are almost 9 months later with zero reply, I even emailed them and i didn't receive a word from them. 🤷‍♂️

[@chokenstad]

Thats strange. Have you tried calling? I sent them an email last weekend and they replied by Monday morning. What mods do you currently have?

[@joseluisruiz3789]

@@chokenstad as of right now just the ZZ Performance 10.5mm Spark plug cables, the ZZ Performance Ignition Coil Packs, ZZ Performance Fuel Filter, ZZ Performance Red Silicone Radiator Hose kit, XS Power D3400 Battery, Mike Singer 390Amp High Output Alternator and thats about it at the moment.

[@joseluisruiz3789]

@@chokenstad as for calling them, I haven't tried that yet lol 😅🤦‍♂️

[@AndrewKellman]

I have a 2003 Bonneville SSEi. What pulley do you recommend

[@chasesettlemire312]

2.8-3

[@wertty1988ify]

Great video! All makes sense. Do you guys have much info for turbo guys?

[@xaviorpackett4359]

I have a 05 buick lacrosse with a 3800 series 3 that I want to do a sleeper build with but everything I find for performance is for a gran prix

[@atranfanatic]

Wow there is so much involved and I had no idea. I was thinking about running a smaller pulley, but now after I watched this video. It is probably not a good idea. I have a 2000 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP coupe that has a freshly rebuilt factory 3800. It was a pain to find 2 connecting rods here locally. Anyway mine is pretty much stock and my daily driver running on 91 octane premium fuel. I can't get any higher octane at my local stations here. So I'm thinking about having the PCM reprogrammed from your website and throw in your ZZP air intake kit. I am also going to pick up the ram air hood from a great company that has gotten great reviews. With all that said, what are your thoughts on what I can do performance wise with my GTP? I don't want to do too much. I don't plan to take it to a track or anything like that. I just want her to run decent and have good overall performance as a daily and getting my speed fixes on the weekends. Thanks

[@ZZPerformanceChannel]

A tune and an intake would be a great start, check out our top 5 mods video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rYWrnXyLoZunb6ssi=9XuYpYB0eERX8vpK And our road to horsepower video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a4vHfZZ8grNkndUsi=B4U6htAi5UT2ARWa You can also email our 3800 expert [e-mail] and let him know what your goals for the car are.

[@atranfanatic]

@@ZZPerformanceChannel Thanks I'll check those out when I get a chance. Appreciate it!

[@rockybutler]

So would weight reduction, I.E striping car down 97 gtp. Would allow a smaller pully to be run?

[@michalgt7203]

2003 Buick Park Ave ULTRA am guessing the exhaust is garbage just much as the Regal's?

[@iperez8743]

What about the 2.0 intercooler the newest one zzp cane out with? Is that a better choice then the full stack?

[@andredillard2332]

ok so do yall do mods for supercharged rivieras

[@Enduro_NY]

I'm running 12psi full bolt on kinda, with tune I say kinda bc I'm still running stock header and stock exhaust I'm working on getting a header and downpipe also no intercooler or internals at all but she still running like a champ at 117k miles

[@kontrolfreeak5678]

Just recently bought the 3800 stage 2 performance kit for my 04’ Monte Carlo intimidator edition, I didn’t see a option for pulley size when I ordered, I included my vin and assumed you guys would select the correct size, anyone have any tips or anything I should know?

[@ZZPerformanceChannel]

The Monte option on our site includes a 3.5" pulley. Install of the kit is easy and straightforward, the only thing that you'll need outside of regular tools is a supercharger pulley puller. We have them for sale or for rental on the website.

[@dustinvandergriff4500]

How about a video about us LHU Regal GS guys? That would be great

[@bailey1375]

Could i run a diffrent pully with just a tune?

[@ZZPerformanceChannel]

We do not recommend it. There are a good amount of mods needed to be able to run a smaller pulley on the supercharged 3800 safely.

[@devonmiller4374]

I got a 97 grand prix gtp stock whats the best set up id be running 91

[@adansandoval1199]

Well I have a 98 regal gs and been trying to look for exhaust but I want to know if I can put a doble exhaust?

[@andrewavery827]

Dose ethanol effect your fuel octane? I have 10 percent ethanol in the 93 octane in my area. I ask this questions becausefrom my knowledge the ethanol attracts water,

[@mattgreen328]

Ok so i have a s/c 06 grand prix gt what pully should i use

[@LuisVega-nz9rh]

Depends on what mods you have. I was running a 3.6 on mine.. Mods: Headers, intake, rocker arms, plugs, 180 stat, and the tune that ZZP send on there computers..

[@charleslowe522]

I bought my car with a 2.7" pulley and it hauls ass. I dropped it down to 2.55", have yet to drive it. Since I am running E85 and an air to water intercooler I should be ok with the smaller pulley.

[@stevenmiles4616]

I bought a 04 grand prix gtp from an auction and it has some of your products on it. It has a 3.6 pulley and the aluminum airbox and filter. But idk if anything internal has been done to the car.

[@BelushiSpeedBall]

I’m guessing probably not if the only thing they are running is a 3.6

[@stevenmiles4616]

@@BelushiSpeedBall idk it has the aluminum air box and filter kit but idk about anything else.

[@sbcdime1]

Id hope they at least did plugs, thermostat, and downpipe. That 3.6 on his gen v m90 is like a 3.4 on a gen 3 m90

[@malacefromthepalace5657]

Im trying to supercharge a buick Lucerne 2007 3.8

[@Invasivesocal]

It would be nice if you make a series of videos on a specific car. So like a complete upgrade plan based on each car. I have a regal Gs and I would like to know the first mods is should get. Well now I know change the exhaust haha. Thx great video!

[@SPARTANLuis067]

Right! A W body or G/H body tutorial would be perfect

[@wood4life40]

I have a 2004 Buick ultra what are the add ons I can run?

[@ZZPerformanceChannel]

Shoot us an email at [e-mail] and we can help you out.

[@gailliardander]

And what is that ?? I would pay 2 do a engine build on my park Avenue

[@wood4life40]

What do I need to get more power out of 2004 buick ULTRA.

[@ZZPerformanceChannel]

We've got a video for that! These are our tops mods for 3800 supercharged engines: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rYWrnXyLoZunb6s

[@ECKO147]

What about the impala ss

[@MIketucky350]

Now 96-99 H body cars do have the least restrictive exhaust. NO one talks about them because they look like church cars. H bodies have no y pipes or U BENDS that the W BODY cars have. Also 96-99 Lesabre/88/ssei Weighs less than ALL 2000+ CARS. No one talks about that either. Also 96-99 H bodies are by far the easiest to work on. No one talks about that. W bodies take 2x the TIME to work on than H bodies. No one here says that. You can pull the motor out of a 3350Lb 98 lesabre in 1 HOUR. Try that on a Grand Prix. it takes 3x the time.

[@timothythomas2685]

I own an 01' SSEi and plan on just going with very mild modifications.. The transmissions in the 3800s scare me😖

[@daviesdan18]

What about methanol injection?

[@EmeraldEnchantments]

So what happens when i inter cool my car drop to a 3.2 and during a run my cooler pump goes bad. Is there a warning your pump isn't working before your engine goes boom?

[@chilipalmer2195]

Monitor your IAT2 temp, set a high temp warning light, otherwise you will start getting a bunch of KR and timing pulled hopefully you notice one of those before it goes boom.

[@Murdertruckmafia]

what about e85

[@SlowBuick98]

My regal gs runs up to 10psi is that normal? I’ve had it for maybe 2 weeks and noticed it runs anywhere from 6-10psi is it normal to run that high? I do know it has a smaller pulley.

[@SlowBuick98]

Also I got a duel mufflers

[@intosilence1773]

I have these mods on my 98 Buick Riviera: Tuned PCM 2 range colder plugs FWI 180 tstat 1.9 rocker arms Headers 3.4" SC pulley With 93 octane, does this justify my pulley size?

[@ZZPerformanceChannel]

Contact us at [e-mail] and we can answer all of your questions.

[@kainariylius392]

So, what if I'm running an M90 on a different engine, where can I find the core you use to make your intercooler? I haven't seen a small enough one, but the intercooler used in your kit will not fit my engine. Did you custom make it? Is just the core available?

[@ZZPerformanceChannel]

Email us at [e-mail] and we can answer all of your questions.

[@slowpoke96Z28]

What about E85 or E100?

[@isaiahsingh8021]

So what mods support a 3.4 pulley?

[@ChicagoYpk]

Rockers..colder thermostat

[@regalgn1]

Running a 3.25 pulley on a 01 GS, Gen3, 255 pump, 65lb injectors, FW intake, full ZZP exhaust dual outlets, no headers, tuned on E85. Making 10-11lbs of boost. Should I bump up on the pulley?

[@Erik-kp1ux]

Why such big injectors? E85 or just preparing for more mods?

[@regalgn1]

@@Erik-kp1ux will probably do more. Don't care for the 42.5's and the 65's give room to grow

[@Erik-kp1ux]

@@regalgn1 I'm running the 42.5s with a 2.9 pulley, really I could still be using the stock 33s but I didn't have a intercooler at the time so I needed the extra fuel. 42.5 Injectors are only half way maxed out. Stock fuel pump and runs on the rich/safe side. 60# injectors are good for 500hp. There's a lot of hype about these cars and the need for certain mods but after building 5 of these cars I've found a lot to be unnecessary. Get some headers and a intercooler and you could drop to any size pulley with your injectors. But the #1 mod for these cars is a cam.

[@regalgn1]

@@Erik-kp1ux I'm on a 2.6 on my other 01 Regal but it's built. Gen V, XP cam, headers w/ open exhaust, N* TB, IC, 80# inj on E85 runs 12.0's

[@Erik-kp1ux]

@@regalgn1 nice build. Glade to see you did it right.

[@ichoozjc]

Is my exhaust a restriction? 2001 top swapped Impala vs cam and headers? 2.8 pulley. Stock catback

[@civicsr2cool]

Only if it had a u bend after the cat. Otherwise the front manifold can be swapped for a power log for better kr support.

[@dylantieszen8042]

Stock mufflers always have more restriction then aftermarket

[@davij2727]

Lol my 99 gs spikes at 9 creeps down to 7+ pounds on a stock pulley tho. 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@therlbread313RecMerch]

Hi Bro..I have ?'s about my 06 Buick Lacrosse

[@nakotahunt1324]

Sell it and get a decent vehicle

[@Ace-zp3dq]

e85?

[@Murdertruckmafia]

what does it take to get a 97 gtp to 300whp?

[@currybuiltperformance6206]

A turbo

[@civicsr2cool]

A $3k transmission.

[@ninjaryohazuka]

You don't need a turbo or a rebuilt transmission to get 300 WHP. I've researched this for months because I really want to supercharge my L36. Ultimately, you will require some basic bolt-ons and a tune. There are some small mods you can do to help, also. Increase the airflow with things like a cold air intake, ported throttle body, front power-log, down-pipe (some people go with a u-bend delete), and many others, and ZZP sells all these parts. They only sell performance parts, so you can definitely get 300 if you want. I'm shooting to have about that much before this year ends.

[@civicsr2cool]

Michael Blue I think you might need to research more. 300 WHEEL horsepower with a blower is going to cost stupid money and be a timebomb. Turbo is really the only way to go. Stock tranny won’t last on the stock 200hp either, 300+ eats um up fast lol

[@ninjaryohazuka]

@@civicsr2cool Not really. A stock L67 has about 200 WHP. Sure, a turbo is more efficient and will produce more power with the same amount of boost. If you want to make big power, then it is the way to go. You can easily do 400+ with one, but I actually have an article from from GM EFI (who used certain things I mentioned in my 1st comment) claiming to boost a 2000 Buick Regal GS (which has a supercharged 3.8/L67) from a baseline Dyno run of 215 WHP to about 270 WHP with Dyno sheets and 1/4 mile ET. www.gm-efi.com/tech/project-sleeper-status-part-2/

[@joshuareedbudzik8916]

🤣🤣 best shit ever Sorry regal guys 🤣🤣

[@ericmartin2470]

i saw the testing done with an intercooler and it simply does not work. the dyno shows a + or - of 1 HP with and without an intercooler... the theory is the intercooler is a restriction to airflow. your money is better spent elsewhere.

[@boosted0079]

Then you "watched" a very horrible test. I would be very curious as to where you seen this test. There's visual testing available right here on KZbin where Richard Holdner himself did controlled testing with the 3800, with and without the intercooler. Intercooling is by far the best mod that can be done to any boosted application. You don't just toss an intercooler on and expect the engine to make more power. It's not a "power adder". It's a supporting mod that requires tuning to take advantage of it's benefits. Which if you watched some test done, tuning was never done. These types of intercoolers do create a tiny bit of restriction, but as the air becomes cooled, it also becomes more dense. Then you can raise boost, and add timing advance(which is the biggest key) to create more power.

[@phoenixarizona8441]

My car wouldn't run on anything other than premium and higher 3800 II

[@Noah-er9on]

YESSSS

[@hootingweirdo8328]

Man, I like my quite muffler

[@joesardullo7978]

Great video. I have a lot of respect for you but you were moving like a bobblehead lol

[@apacheone3643]

The only thing I agree with is the high octane fuel but you have NO CLUE HOW FUEL IS DISTRIBUTED TO FUEL STATIONS!! Secondly I am running 12 Pounds max of boost for 20 years on 92 octane.Again you really have no idea what you are talking about. Intercooler I agree should be done in excess of 12 psi secondly when cooling the air your pressure will drop as you are cooling the air. Exhaust size needs to be increased make that engine breath.

[@grahambate3384]

Men think smaller pulley is better? Got be in denial

[@t.l.robinson2162]

BP? No! They water their fuel down.

[@camopaint0707]

I like how he thinks there are actually different tier fuels. It's been proven the gas in joe blow's pumps are the same as shell for example.

[@louistaylor3252]

Wrong

[@254967conwell]

The gas is the same but its the refrinies that's the difference. Example Shell adds more detergent than most other refrinies

[@donkhron5590]

🤠🤠🤠🤠

[@nakotahunt1324]

Just put a smaller pulley on. As long as you have more fuel pressure than boost you'll be good. Obviously more boost is going to bring down the integrity of parts but if you're putting a smaller pulley on your know it's not going to last forever

[@ryanderrick656]

Or, you can do it the right way with increasing the efficiency of the engine and keeping the blower in its proper wheel house. Just dropping a pulley size without doing other mods is a fast way to chip a piston or blow it up..... Efficiency > m90 boost numbers. Smallest pulley possible =/= fastest setup

[@alfredsinkllc4870]

Haha

[@brianwilless1589]

profanity is unprofessional!

[@jpeg.eric1]

It builds character

[@brotherbread6549]

Lost me at 35 seconds. Unprofessional