SEASON 2 Episode 3 : Back to Basics
1:07:52
Is the Rebel ROTE Deck Overpowered?
1:27:10
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@xmax987
@xmax987 2 ай бұрын
Next episode when?
@1HourRebellion
@1HourRebellion 2 ай бұрын
Not too much longer to wait. My old computer died, and lost like 5 edited videos that just needed voice :(
@xmax987
@xmax987 Ай бұрын
@@1HourRebellion that’s too bad glad to know you’re still excited to make videos!
@d3b3t67
@d3b3t67 2 ай бұрын
Hello did you think about tier list video? Leaders, cards, etc.
@d3b3t67
@d3b3t67 2 ай бұрын
At the start of the game can you place a death star on populated system? Shouln't the system be remoted?
@Ghastly30
@Ghastly30 3 ай бұрын
Hey, I'm a new player in this game and I wanted to ask you what was the point in destroying Hoth with the DS? Is there any specific reason, or just for fun?
@1HourRebellion
@1HourRebellion 3 ай бұрын
@@Ghastly30 Weldome to the greatest game ever created! In this particular situation, it was more about getting the loyalty in Mustafar. I didn't want any shenanigans showing up behind me. Also there was a chance the base was going to be there, and I did not have much backup in that region
@DoobsDoesYoutube
@DoobsDoesYoutube 3 ай бұрын
48:07 wow. wow. I remember you being pretty upset at someone else for doing something EERILY similar....
@chrisbarlow4298
@chrisbarlow4298 3 ай бұрын
Ooh, this is going to be good. Happy 4th!
@over9000lord
@over9000lord 3 ай бұрын
Haha, Tagge continues to broaden his horizons! I'm used to see him gathering intel, but ruling by fear sure is new! Good game, btw, a very interesting and unusual one
@1HourRebellion
@1HourRebellion 3 ай бұрын
@@over9000lord I don't know what it is about the General...
@keksky4540
@keksky4540 3 ай бұрын
Can't understand why not playing the Address Delays ASAP? The earlier you get additional capital ships, the better will be odds in space combats with rebels. Instead, you were holding these cards for several rounds. I think it was worth to play it on Utapau at turn 3-4. Also, it would be better to play the Bombardment combat card against the rebel troops on Utapau. The At-St combat card was such a waste there. You could use it in the upcoming combat on the Rebel base. Anyway, tnx for a new video)
@hideout-u4f
@hideout-u4f 3 ай бұрын
Wombat lost so many games to chokee on time he doesn't even believe he'll ever need the AT-st card for the base anymore.
@DoobsDoesYoutube
@DoobsDoesYoutube 4 ай бұрын
While the game came down to dice rolls, it didn't have to be that way. If Rebs keep the 2 mon cals together with the corvette in base...no way do Imperials win that space combat. It really came down to needing to play hard around Ozzel/Soontir and keep the bulk of the fleet together. The Plan Assault on Geo especially didn't matter, because Rebs chose not to score with Rebel Cell that turn. That is always my big picture focus: how can I remove bad dice rolls from the equation...good game, nice edit!
@Lancer234
@Lancer234 4 ай бұрын
Great game fun to watch!
@zsoltmautner3250
@zsoltmautner3250 4 ай бұрын
Yes! Yes! A new episode! I really like that trick of playing the play another card card when afraid of confrontation! 27:15 I'm pretty sure MonMothma's mission cannot target sabotaged systems.
@DoobsDoesYoutube
@DoobsDoesYoutube 4 ай бұрын
Correct about Trade Relations. An oft forgotten rule
@1HourRebellion
@1HourRebellion 4 ай бұрын
You are correct there about TR. Got several more episodes scheduled, but keeping them for 1 per month for now.
@zsoltmautner3250
@zsoltmautner3250 4 ай бұрын
@@1HourRebellion What does 1-mo mean?
@1HourRebellion
@1HourRebellion 4 ай бұрын
@@zsoltmautner3250 1 per month :) updated.
@conradbell
@conradbell 4 ай бұрын
Slight rules mistake. I don't believe you can run trade relations in a sabotaged system
@1HourRebellion
@1HourRebellion 4 ай бұрын
very true.
@1HourRebellion
@1HourRebellion 4 ай бұрын
I dont think so. Sometimes I see it happen a few times in a row, but it's probably just that it is standing out. I gotta admit I clear the dice from time to time
@Quincy_Morris
@Quincy_Morris 4 ай бұрын
I’m repeatedly seeing the reroller generate the identical result. Could this be a bug?
@1HourRebellion
@1HourRebellion 4 ай бұрын
Sometimes I convince myself it is a bug....
@Quincy_Morris
@Quincy_Morris 4 ай бұрын
Had you not drawn trade relations turn 1 what are your thoughts on using evacuation to place a unit in Utapau turn 1 FiD the extra dice on BA? Anyone do that?
@1HourRebellion
@1HourRebellion 4 ай бұрын
That is an interesting idea, and I have never seen that card used that way. In my opinion, Start the Evacuation has huge value but only if Raid Outposts come up early (it's a free victory point in most circumstances). However, I could also see this as a "bail out" for ensuring that a build alliance works as well, especially if Leia has a mission she wants to play. Interesting idea for sure!
@Quincy_Morris
@Quincy_Morris 4 ай бұрын
Yay rebel games! Most fun!
@Quincy_Morris
@Quincy_Morris 4 ай бұрын
Ion canon mvp! Never seen the ability on the ion canon card actually do anything other than 1 damage. Very cool!
@DoobsDoesYoutube
@DoobsDoesYoutube 5 ай бұрын
Never thought of using trade negotiation mission as conjugated to "trade negotiate"....but you've convinced me
@TsoullValentine
@TsoullValentine 5 ай бұрын
Oh man, great to have you and Doobs back posting rebellion! Loved the audio. Keep up with the vids Wombat :D
@zsoltmautner3250
@zsoltmautner3250 5 ай бұрын
What could be the reason behind playing Leia's action card on the 1st turn? I usually hold onto that until I'm really in need of a certain mission. When I saw you taking Krennic's Finest I was like, come on, Ozzel into Tatooine, he must bring a leader, then capture him at the end of the command phase, but it didn't reach its end. :)
@1HourRebellion
@1HourRebellion 5 ай бұрын
I really like using Desperate Hour on turn 1 and putting her and Mothma on Trade Relations. Hard to pass up getting a 2nd Mon Cal and 2nd Nebulon on turn 1...
@zsoltmautner3250
@zsoltmautner3250 5 ай бұрын
@@1HourRebellion Do you use it when you also start with Mothma's action card or Trade relations as a first mission?
@1HourRebellion
@1HourRebellion 5 ай бұрын
@@zsoltmautner3250 no, in that instance I'd use mothmas card dorst round in utapau and save Desperate Hour
@DoobsDoesYoutube
@DoobsDoesYoutube 5 ай бұрын
LETS GO
@DoobsDoesYoutube
@DoobsDoesYoutube 5 ай бұрын
Nice! Good audio...loud and clear
@zsoltmautner3250
@zsoltmautner3250 5 ай бұрын
If I were you I would have done the 1st turn as follows: I would have assigned only to Imperial propaganda since Naboo was loyal. Tagge to Mon Cal, after Infiltration, then I would've let Trade relations succeed. Emperor to subjugate Kashyyyk or Ord Mantell. See where Mothma builds alliance, then Propaganda on Sullust. They wouldn't have had a sinlge Mon Cal cruiser. 13:46 Why would Madine do Leia's mission when she's available with 2 successes? 54:47 Why was Mothma rescued when there's still an imperial unit in the system? Retreating does not set the captured leader free, you just cannot bring her with you. It didn't happen, just in theory: I think you cannot play Track them after you retreated, unless you have multiple leaders in the combat's system. You can use that card after an enemy unit retreats from combat. If you do that with a lone leader, there're no more leaders for you to retreat with.
@DoobsDoesYoutube
@DoobsDoesYoutube 5 ай бұрын
If Imps let trade relations succeed, Rebels get a Mon Cal automatically from that. And if Mothma ends up going for Mustafar or Toydaria, Propaganda is useless versus those areas since there is no Imperial system in those regions. Lastly, if Rebels open with infiltrate in Sullust, Dodonna can block Propaganda. Lots go wrong letting Trade Relations succeed. I think @Wombat did the best play possible given that he had taken Motti.
@zsoltmautner3250
@zsoltmautner3250 5 ай бұрын
@@DoobsDoesKZbin Gee, I must have mistaken the card's effect then. I was under the impression that it gives 1 loyalty in 2 system within the same region. It would not matter where Mothma built alliance, because (as I imagined) all 3 systems in Sullust's region would become neutral thanks to Propaganda. The rebels would not try another loyalty mission where they already have all of them. But as it happens, the searched mission was not what I first thought of. As a little addendum, I never use Leia's action card during the 1st turn.
@over9000lord
@over9000lord 5 ай бұрын
Oooh, long time no see! Welcome back!
@zsoltmautner3250
@zsoltmautner3250 5 ай бұрын
41:50 Vader was also in the system for 3 rerolls. :)
@zsoltmautner3250
@zsoltmautner3250 5 ай бұрын
We always bring up the question with the Millennium Falcon: "Is the falconed leader allowed to move to the Rebel Base Space as part of the rescue?" We used to end up on "Yes.", because the leader was rescued due to a mission, not by eliminating the units around. And for the same reason we allow Darth Vader to use his action card on the falconed leader. What do you think about these? May I ask how do you keep grabbing units by adding them to the grabbed group? For example when you build or move them to the battle area. I always circle around them, then grab them. I don't know how you grab multiple units one by one and keep holding onto them. Also, how do you put down those arrows pointing towards the table? 40:52 I always wonder how certain carry capacity limits are not caught by either the players or the viewers. :) 47:23 With Homing Beacon the captured leader goes to any system in the base's region.
@1HourRebellion
@1HourRebellion 5 ай бұрын
Yep, falcon leader cam go back to the base. For adding units, you hold down the CTRL and then click to add (or drop)
@1HourRebellion
@1HourRebellion 5 ай бұрын
good catch on the other items
@zsoltmautner3250
@zsoltmautner3250 5 ай бұрын
@@1HourRebellion Thanks for the explanation. And how do you put down the arrows pointing towards the table?
@zsoltmautner3250
@zsoltmautner3250 5 ай бұрын
Why would a rebel player put Leia on Infiltration while Dodonna is on Build Alliance?
@1HourRebellion
@1HourRebellion 5 ай бұрын
Most common reason is to potentially defend against a capture. dodanna can safely build alliance whereas Leia provides some safety vs. capture, especially if reikan sabos there as well. there is a tradeoff though because dodanna is easily blocked
@AlastairGames
@AlastairGames 5 ай бұрын
this is a fantastic interview, thank you! Helpful insights. Interesting to learn about the objective cards like that too. The audio was a bit unclear from Kornel, but worth it anyways.
@zsoltmautner3250
@zsoltmautner3250 5 ай бұрын
41:50 I think I would have taken Bespin's loyalty.
@zsoltmautner3250
@zsoltmautner3250 5 ай бұрын
55:55 Return of the Jedi could still be scored here, because the rebels won the ground battle. Recently I have built a Super Star Destroyer in one turn (adjacent to the base) by putting two dudes on thh card, then playing Oversee Project. My opponent was amazed :) Still, I lost it against 4 fighters, only bringing 2 with me. I had very bad rolls.
@1HourRebellion
@1HourRebellion 5 ай бұрын
Fair point. Also, while I love a good SSD, it is not uncommon to lose it the turn after deployment to a well prepared rebel, this is why I typically only invest a single leader on the mission normally
@zsoltmautner3250
@zsoltmautner3250 5 ай бұрын
I think this was the video I enjoyed the most so far. I really like the commentaries! I learn a lot from them! I hope you'll still post videos after I watched all of them! :) I'd really like to hear your oppinions on my comments on the previous videos! :)
@1HourRebellion
@1HourRebellion 5 ай бұрын
Thanks! I have a whole season recorded that will be dropping starting May 4th
@zsoltmautner3250
@zsoltmautner3250 5 ай бұрын
55:08 I don't know about this FAQ, but it's in the expansion rules. During the final battle I sure would have overdamaged the imperial ships. Very likely that they roll at least 1 heal and roll the same ammount of dice in the next round.
@zsoltmautner3250
@zsoltmautner3250 5 ай бұрын
I think as the rebels I would have started on Dathomir, so I could blockade 2 imperial loyal systems. This is even more likely true if I started with Cut supply lines. Blockade 2, sabotage a subjugated.
@zsoltmautner3250
@zsoltmautner3250 6 ай бұрын
33:06 Are you sure that's how it's meant to be? Jyn's action card specifies taking back a discarded objective. By the rules, scored objectives go into the game box and cannot be used again the same game. Meanwhile, there are wordings to discard objectives, for example with the "discard 2 other objectives to play this card" or the "discard objectives instead of scoring them" target marker. 46:02 Was it just a 3-unit deployment in a system? :)
@DwightLyle
@DwightLyle 5 ай бұрын
I saw the 3 unit deployment too and immediately went digging through the manual trying to find out if there is some exception for the transport. Not that I can find. Glad you commented. I would have gone crazy trying to figure this out.
@zsoltmautner3250
@zsoltmautner3250 6 ай бұрын
What a card setup with everything around capture! It even hurts to be 1 leader down, but 3 is a true disaster.
@zsoltmautner3250
@zsoltmautner3250 6 ай бұрын
That was a really awesome ending! There are situations one would normally never think of unless they come up. 19:42 With Rapid Mobilization the rebel player can only bring 5 units into the base.
@zsoltmautner3250
@zsoltmautner3250 6 ай бұрын
58:26 I was surprised that you said that, because the rebel player couldn't have retreated to Endor, because he would have had to choose Bespin. Also, it seemed to me that he didn't take back a card with the Shield Generator. I guess momentary adrenaline makes people forget things. :)
@zsoltmautner3250
@zsoltmautner3250 6 ай бұрын
20:35 I believe deploying 2 troopers to Tatooine was invalid, because the Death Star was already deployed there, therefore 3 units were deployed in one system.
@zsoltmautner3250
@zsoltmautner3250 6 ай бұрын
I really enjoy watching these videos! For quite some time I haven't liked the expansion combat system, but I got used to it and recently I played a base game and the combat there was so foreign. 4:30 I don't understand your analysis. Vader+Palpatine would be 5 vs 2 dice against Leia. 13:15 Why did Vader have to retreat when you could cancel the Confrontation? 59:58 With the two 3-fist missions why would you not send Vader on his own mission and the other dudes on Carbon Freezing? Exactly the same number of fist icons, but at least Vader would have a much greater chance.
@zsoltmautner3250
@zsoltmautner3250 6 ай бұрын
I always put 2 leaders on Super Star Destroyer and Interdictor (for the first two occasions) to make them arrive sooner. 33:42 The rebel player was the attacker. You discussed that he did not want to retreat. Then he retreats after you retreated. How's that valid? He's the current player. If you discussed that he changed his mind about retreating, then you would not be able to retreat, because of no opposing units. Similarly at 44:42, the attacker chooses first whether they want to retreat or not. They cannot retreat after the defender retreated. Or am I missing something?
@zsoltmautner3250
@zsoltmautner3250 6 ай бұрын
I share your feeling at certain points. If I get too excited about something, I tend to forget what I was planning to do. :D 5:12 Similarly to a previous video, how does the rebel player score Decisive Victory, when the imperial player is the attacker?
@zsoltmautner3250
@zsoltmautner3250 6 ай бұрын
25:52 It's unclear to me how you were able to score Decisive Victory when it's the empire's turn? He moved into the base's system, therefore he initiated the combat, didn't he? Even he was the attacker during the combat.
@rwiseb
@rwiseb 5 ай бұрын
u dont need to be the attacker to score decisive
@zsoltmautner3250
@zsoltmautner3250 5 ай бұрын
@@rwiseb Oh! Then maybe I either mixed it up with something else or the game in my language requires to be the attacker.
@rwiseb
@rwiseb 5 ай бұрын
@@zsoltmautner3250ur correct most of the other combat VPs require rebs to initiate (I think return of the jedi and death star plans are the other exceptions)
@zsoltmautner3250
@zsoltmautner3250 6 ай бұрын
I really love these commentaries. I've learnt a lot from them already. Just a couple of observations: 15:22 When a player retreats, they only do that with 1 leader, so either Dodonna or Leia should remain in Sullust. 39:29 The rebel player didn't take the Corvette, because the Hidden Fleet moves units from the Rebel Base Space. Even if the base was on Hoth, it was not revealed, so he couldn't take the unit from there.
@zsoltmautner3250
@zsoltmautner3250 6 ай бұрын
11:45 About R2-D2, the card writes that "after your opponent rolled dice". In this situation the rebel player didn't turn one of your dice after you rolled, but after they rolled. I don't think that's valid. What do you think?
@AlastairGames
@AlastairGames 6 ай бұрын
This and the imperial one are incredible resources, thank you again
@zsoltmautner3250
@zsoltmautner3250 6 ай бұрын
Hello! It's still my most loved board game and I'm still trying to learn tactics about it. :) I have a few questions. 13:10 Since you played the destroy ground triangle combat card, doesn't that mean that as the last opposing unit is destroyed, there are no dice rolls at all? The combat ends right there, therefore you don't get a chance of saving a wounded unit, right? At least that's how I interpret it. 21:20 What's the reason of not playing Ozzel's mission as soon as you have both him and it? 38:44 Why did you put a only one leader on the Construct Super star destroyer card when there are only 3 turns left? 45:42 I don't understand this conversation about cancelling. If you play a cancel option that cancels the opponent's card. If the defender plays a cancel option, you resolve that first. If your primary card is cancel, you cannot cancel your opponent's secondary card, nor if your 2nd card is cancel can you cancel the opponent's 1st card. What did he mean by cancelling the next card?
@1HourRebellion
@1HourRebellion 6 ай бұрын
Hi and welcome! 1: combat continues until it is resolved at the end of combat, so even if there is no unit to attack, dice are rolled (in this case for heal). 2: Are you referring to Catch them by Surprise, Ozzel's action card? I typically will hold this until a critical moment during a game, it is often a win-condition for the empire to be able to attack the rebel base before the rebels have their first action. 3: My assessment at the time, was that I could likely get Carbon Freeze off, which would extend the game 1 additional turn, I felt that I couldn't spare the additional leader. 4: This is a nuanced play by Kornel. Even though he plays the corvette CANCEL card, he can choose to play "no card next round" which is the bottom option on the card. However, his decision to cancel my card or not might be based on where I assign the red damage to. I assign it to the nebulon, and then Kornel ops to use the bottom of the corvette card to prevent me from playing a card next round (which likely would have been the Shield Bunker card to flip the combat back with him rolling first). This guarantees he'll be the defender for 2 more rolls, rather than just 1.
@zsoltmautner3250
@zsoltmautner3250 6 ай бұрын
@@1HourRebellion Not the action card, but the mission card to draw 4 probes. I understand the other ones and thank you for the reply. :)
@TheNickman007
@TheNickman007 7 ай бұрын
Can you tell me why you didn’t succeed on the Rule by Fear on Round 1 about the 12min mark? From my count you won 5-4
@TheNickman007
@TheNickman007 7 ай бұрын
Actually, don't worry about me, I had a brain fart about the R2 ring. I got it mixed up with Yoda for a second thinking it was a reroll rather than an extra success
@random-ns4ir
@random-ns4ir 8 ай бұрын
Why not infiltrate on Rodia with dodonna turn 2 where leia is? With 1 black 1 green dice you have a big chance to block the capture. There was no benefit to doing it in saleucami. Would have saved you to get interrogated
@1HourRebellion
@1HourRebellion 8 ай бұрын
Yep, that is a good analysis. I think the answer was that I was thinking if he blocks then his fleet is pinned, but your analysis is correct!
@Lancer234
@Lancer234 8 ай бұрын
interesting game! almost feels weird watching doobs play base deck!