Awesome seeing the Toro golf head in action. This seems to be their bread and butter product. Would love to see an old Moist-o-Matic in action.
@antiquesprinklers8 сағат бұрын
Yep. John D. Ross’ company. Same company for the Ross Crown, the Ross Star, and that hose nozzle. Luther Burbank said Ross’ star or square sprinkler, don’t remember which now, was the best sprinkler to use for roses. Pasadena was a hotbed for irrigation, especially before the war. Love that you showed the handheld waterer, too!
@oldschoolsprinklers90006 сағат бұрын
Bill, Thank you for confirming my thoughts about them being the same company. The comment about being the best sprinkler for watering roses would make sense. The Pasadena area is famous for roses. You’re the best historian! Thanks for the comments and for watching!…
@photocontrol21 сағат бұрын
That's a great find after sitting on a shelf for so many years. Nice spray head that doesn't spray too far out, which is perfect for narrower shrub beds.
@oldschoolsprinklers900019 сағат бұрын
Thank you for the comments!
@MikeMac89Күн бұрын
Very cool ! I just scored 3 of these with the electronic module. Golf course relics but they are in decent shape !
@oldschoolsprinklers9000Күн бұрын
Thanks for your comments. Congratulations on your find! Thanks for watching…
@NelsonBigGunP200FanКүн бұрын
Good find ! That is in great shape for sitting on a shelf for so long. It runs well and has good coverage! Haven't seen much about FEBCO though. I only knew about them because the neighbors had them in popup rotors! Thank you for sharing!
@oldschoolsprinklers9000Күн бұрын
@@NelsonBigGunP200Fan Thank you for the comments. I couldn’t believe that I found it either. There generally are a few FEBCO brass sprinklers out there. However for me the pop up rotors are challenging to find. Thanks for watching…
@antiquesprinklersКүн бұрын
What an amazing find! Incredible that was on the shelf of a plumbing supply house for over 50 years!
@oldschoolsprinklers9000Күн бұрын
Yes, agree! When I found it, I couldn’t believe it either!
@Dancerlost4 күн бұрын
Where can I find antique sprinklers like this to purchase?
@oldschoolsprinklers90004 күн бұрын
As time goes on, they are getting harder to find. There are several social media websites that may be selling various types of sprinklers. Depending on what you’re looking for, some are a little easier to find than others. I have accumulated many sprinklers over a lifetime from many sources. Social media platforms, collectors, metal recycling centers, landscape irrigation companies working in that trade sometimes comes across them. Patience for the hunt is often needed. Thanks for watching and good luck in the search…
@randyvanheusden7327 күн бұрын
They are very interesting. I may more into impact sprinklers, but I thought about the moment you took it apart and showed the rusty brass parts. I wanted to recommend soaking them for a day in citric acid which is contained in orange koolaid or other packages like that. It is the citric acid that cleans up the brass and you would find them quite clean in about a day or so. I would love to see them after wards. I usually take a steel brush to the accessible parts after the soaking. I suspect they will work even better, even though they were doing the job quite well. Thank you for sharing your video.
@oldschoolsprinklers90006 күн бұрын
Thank you for the comments. I have heard of cleaning the brass of something like that but have never tried it. Will have to next time. Those 2 sprinklers were sitting outside in a 5 gallon filled with dirty water, leaves, dirt, rusty galvanized pipe fittings that had made its way inside the sprinklers. The internal parts looked great after cleaning all the debris off of them. Amazingly working great after all of these years! Thanks for watching…
@randyvanheusden7326 күн бұрын
@@oldschoolsprinklers9000 I may not be into this design sprinkler, but the internals get me excited. Thank you for sharing it.
@sprinklercraft10 күн бұрын
What an old gem! I love the sound of the cam rotors. It's too bad that no manufacturer continued with this design, it was much simpler and long lasting than the throwaway gear drive heads of today.
@oldschoolsprinklers900010 күн бұрын
Thanks for the comments! I couldn’t agree more with the sound of the cam rotors. They are a great reliable head that did last a long time. Who knows maybe someone out there will reintroduce them one day! That would be nice! Thanks for watching!!
@photocontrol11 күн бұрын
Nice old Buckner cam rotor, it still works great after all these years after some cleaning.
@oldschoolsprinklers900011 күн бұрын
Thank you for your comments. I am very pleasantly surprised that it still operates so nicely! Thanks for watching!…
@antiquesprinklers12 күн бұрын
Really great video, Dave! Those Jr’s evolved ultimately into the 1330’s once Buckner moved to that case style and model number series. It’s amazing how well yours works right out of the bucket. I could listen to those cams click all day! Thanks for sharing!
@oldschoolsprinklers900011 күн бұрын
Bill, thank you for the comments! I was very lucky at the time to have found this Buckner when I did and rediscovered it again years later resting outside in a bucket with years of elements on top of it! I greatly appreciate your help in identifying this Buckner! Not to mention the photo of the Buckner number 12 catalog page. That helped a great deal in identifying its history. Yes, that cam producing that kind of sound is one of a kind and soothing to listen too! Thanks for watching!…
@NelsonBigGunP200Fan12 күн бұрын
Nice Buckner rotor! It runs well on your setup! And it has some impressive range! I wonder if i got a 3rd pump on my setup to run in series if i would gain much pressure to offset the cost (4-500$ for a pump and about 100ish for a new 25 foot suction hose. Id probably be sitting at around 65psi if i had to guess. Going from 40 to 53 on my smaller guns is a difference i can see. Thank you for sharing and i hope to get a cam rotor of my own someday!
@oldschoolsprinklers900012 күн бұрын
Thank you for you comments. This particular Buckner according to the data on the chart, can run 30-70 lbs of pressure, ( I have static about 110-115 lbs.) 3/16 nozzle at 7.0 to 18.0 GPM’s and 70-95 diameter coverage. The operating of your guns to me would be on another level of calculations to find the right volumes and working pressures for the particular gun. I’m sure that different pumps put out different amounts of water. I always enjoy watching your big guns in operation. They are very impressive! I’m sure that one day you will find your own cam rotor. Keep an eye out!! Thanks for watching…
@kerryvinci528712 күн бұрын
Very Nice find, it works well with your pressure too! That is part of the original series of pop up Came rotors and it did become the 1282. The Buckner Cam design was truly an innovative simple approach to long range turf irrigation, more reliable with only 2 moving parts and around long before pop up impact heads; a solid reliable design that lasted over 70 years with only minor refinements.... Too bad Buckner fell into the wrong hands, or this type of drive may still exist to compete against the complex moving parts of the gear drives Thanks for sharing
@oldschoolsprinklers900012 күн бұрын
Kerry, Thanks for the comments. My static pressure is running about 110/115 lbs. Thanks for clarifying that this 12JR cam rotor was before the 1282. We had thought that this could have been a possibility but could not be certain. I feel very lucky to have stumbled upon this and the 1294’s. They were in the scrap yard getting ready to go thru the shredder. I was lucky to be at the right place and time.! The Buckner Cam Rotors were indeed a very reliable work horse for many years. It is a shame that they are no longer produced. I really enjoyed installing them and servicing them back in my working days. Again, thanks for your comments And for watching!!!…
@lynnmcbride242513 күн бұрын
Beautiful performance, and very nice timing as others have said. Thank you for your videos
@oldschoolsprinklers900013 күн бұрын
Thank you for your comments
@MabuzaEugene15 күн бұрын
I like this pressure
@oldschoolsprinklers900015 күн бұрын
It does have the high pressure. Thanks for watching…
@MikeMac8916 күн бұрын
I am truly jealous of your water supply !!! Im running 55-60 PSI street pressure (small town) and cant even run one 65 without a pump !
@oldschoolsprinklers900016 күн бұрын
Thank you for your comments. Pressure being that low is very often a problem with irrigation systems. The place I used to work for had several sites with low water pressure. We were always servicing the irrigation pumps to keep the systems working properly. When I installed my irrigation system water main around my property a number of years ago, I had the pressure and volume in mind to be delivered with minimal pressure drop. Indeed I am very fortunate to have the city water pressure that I have. Thanks for watching…
@photocontrol17 күн бұрын
Very nice Buckner cam rotors! They work great after freeing up the turbines. A lot of parts go into those, nice coverage and rotation speed.
@oldschoolsprinklers900017 күн бұрын
It is rather surprising the amount of parts that were engineered into making these back in the day. I was very pleased that they work great after cleaning them up and the results are nice. Thank you for the comments and for watching!…
@jayrman123ify19 күн бұрын
Tbis is a 305 turf bird. The turf birds were designed to be lighter to make them easier to carry from on place to another.
@oldschoolsprinklers900019 күн бұрын
Thank you for your comments. I have learned a lot more here over time on the turf birds. Again, thanks for the comments and for watching.
@antiquesprinklers19 күн бұрын
Dave, what a great idea you had to show the way water moves through the sprinkler without the internal! I think that’s really interesting to see. In all of these, all of the parts play a role. As for the production dates you asked about. I believe it was introduced in the 1930’s with the original line. Back then they also had equivalents to the 1330 and 1360 of later years. The latest catalog I have these in is 1966. In the 1960’s they brought on the 1300 line, and in my JM catalog from the 1970’s, all cams are 1300 series. Thanks for taking the time to get these things moving again. That must have been some rough water going through galvanized pipe, or something, to clog them so badly.
@oldschoolsprinklers900019 күн бұрын
Bill, thanks for the great comments!. Wow!! This could go all the way back to the 30’s! That is amazing!! I have a 1972 repair parts catalog that still show parts available for them at that time. I might have missed something elsewhere in other catalogs. Time will tell.. I don’t know if there were jammed up when I got them from the scrap yard or from being in my storage area here. I had recently rediscovered them in my outside storage area at the bottom of a 5 gallon bucket full of water from the recent rains. Also being covered with other Hunter plastic rotors, leaves, etc. I had forgot that I even had these from the scrap yard. I was very pleasantly surprised after cleaning them up and going back together that they actually work! What a great testament to Buckner and there engineering at the time… Thanks for all the info and for watching!
@sprinklercraft20 күн бұрын
Love the engineering that went into the cam rotors. thanks for sharing your knowledge of how to work on them as well
@oldschoolsprinklers900019 күн бұрын
They are an interesting sprinkler! Thanks for your comments and for watching…
@NelsonBigGunP200Fan20 күн бұрын
Those cam rotors are neat! I need to go to my nearest salvage yard to see if I can find any irrigation heads or guns! Thank you for sharing !
@oldschoolsprinklers900020 күн бұрын
It doesn’t hurt to check the salvage yards. You never know what you can find…!!! Sometimes in new condition as well…
@northcentralsirens20 күн бұрын
This brings back a memory, when I was a young teen, my teacher hired me to help with the lawn care of the football field, you see we mowed it and we had to water it to keep it as green as possible. For the irrigation part, we had to drag long pipes from goal post to goal post and hook them together, for the sprinklers we used Rainbirds MaxiPaw sprinklers 4 to a pipe section. For the water we used a small nearby stream and a pump to water. It was literally a labor of love for me, as I LOVE impact sprinklers there cool and the sound they make is awsome
@oldschoolsprinklers900020 күн бұрын
Great fond memories for sure. We all have so many. Glad this video brought back some of those memories for you as this video has done for me! Thanks for watching!…
@kerryvinci528723 күн бұрын
The Rain-O-Mats are awesome heads! The spray heads were a high quality brass spray head. They had many patterns, angles and arcs available, and special order arc was never an issue. Very customer driven…. Too bad they didn’t survive the times…… they built a quality brass product and resisted the plastic transition; all those that stayed the course didn’t survive the rest of time, sadly. I had put in hundreds of the 300 HP sprays in the early mid 80’s a long with #7 rotors. Thanks for sharing. I have some I my system in my yard still going strong.
@oldschoolsprinklers900023 күн бұрын
Kerry, Thanks for the comments. The Rain-O-Mats were indeed a nice rugged brass spray heads and I do believe they were a short lived company. Pretty much like all the other brass products companies, they did hang in there as long as possible to not fall to the plastic world. I really enjoyed working with the #7 rotors! They were very unique. I’m hopeful that there still might be a few stray Rain-O-Mat holdouts still in service out there. Who knows. I’m glad to hear that you have some still working at your place! That’s awesome!! Thanks for watching…
@washingandmowing1524 күн бұрын
I have 2 of these, never ran them though
@oldschoolsprinklers900024 күн бұрын
It would be nice to see them one day
@antiquesprinklers26 күн бұрын
Nice explanation of how this would work in a block rather than a VIH system given its normally open. It runs great, too. Showing the hydraulic control of it, though, is next level! Great way to demo a hydraulic VIH. Absolutely great! Really outstanding explanation.
@oldschoolsprinklers900026 күн бұрын
Thank you for the great comments. I thought it would be worthy to demonstrate the 2 options that this particular sprinkler could do coming off the shelf. Being used in a block of heads or the normally open hydraulic valve in head independent use. Thanks for watching…
@antiquesprinklers26 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing these. Very cool seeing them all running in a line. That cast bronze shrub adapter is something I don’t believe I’ve ever seen. Very interesting!
@oldschoolsprinklers900026 күн бұрын
Thanks for your comments. I don’t know if there were any other manufacture that might have produced the cast bronze adapter. However, I do have some other older champion lawn sprays that seem consistent of an older type of cast bronze castings. Thanks for watching…
@photocontrol26 күн бұрын
Nice brass shrub heads, a wide selection of spray patterns for sure. Good coverage.
@oldschoolsprinklers900026 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching
@NelsonBigGunP200Fan28 күн бұрын
Nice rotor! the golf course my parents live off of has stream rotors and rainbird 51s. I'm wondering if they are the VIH models (electric maybe?). Since I think they use a computer system to control which heads run at a certain time. I think it'd be easier to use than a valve that runs a bunch of heads like at a residential setup. I think its easier because they can just select what heads to run instead of just turning on a valve to run a zone. Thats got some good range. I have been thinking of getting a Rainbird eagle 950 series, i think the golf course there uses them too.
@oldschoolsprinklers900028 күн бұрын
@@NelsonBigGunP200Fan Thank you for the comments. I think in today’s world, that pretty much everything is in electric. The toro head you had seen in the video is from 1982. At the time there still some hydraulic systems out there. So I would say (without seeing it) at your golf course location that it’s a safe bet that it’s possibly a computer electronics system with the VIH models. Good luck in getting your Rainbird eagle 950. Thanks for watching…
@photocontrol29 күн бұрын
Great demo on how the rotor can be operated remotely with the pressurized control tubing.
@oldschoolsprinklers900029 күн бұрын
Thank you for the comments and for watching..
@antiquesprinklersАй бұрын
This makes me nostalgic. I fought the 630/650/690 gear drives and their control systems with everything I had. They were dominant in golf in the 1980’s in large portions of the country. What you have is an incredible find. You do a great job explaining in simple terms how this could be a valve-in-head or just a check valve block style sprinkler. It runs great, and you capture it really well, which isn’t easy on a long-throw sprinkler. Great subject, and a great video.
@antiquesprinklersАй бұрын
Forgot the 670. Blank them, too, but I’d love to see one. 😉
@oldschoolsprinklers9000Ай бұрын
Bill, thank you for your comments! We did not have a lot of Toro turf products where I used to work. Toro was introducing the 640 series back in the 70’/80’s and they were in their infancy. The ones we did get did not hold up well at all under the constant pounding they were getting under our heavy athletic fields usage and quickly found them to be a maintenance headache. So we put back the Buckner, Thompson turf sprinklers that could take the pounding and be so much more vandal resistant. Thanks for watching!…
@michaelnaretto3409Ай бұрын
As a kid I loved watching a yard full of these things going to work. Still do....
@oldschoolsprinklers9000Ай бұрын
I did the same. I could watch them for a long time… Thanks for watching
@photocontrolАй бұрын
Nice find! That's a neat Toro rotor, good coverage, interesting options that were offered.
@oldschoolsprinklers9000Ай бұрын
Thank you
@jesusrodriguez2450Ай бұрын
How did you get it to work off the garden hose?!
@oldschoolsprinklers9000Ай бұрын
I have a full 1” water main with the city street pressure (115/120# pressure with no regulator) for my irrigation system coming to my property with a full flow 3/4” garden hose Bibb and full flow 3/4” garden hose. So I get the maximum water supply which of course works great with this type of sprinkler. Thank you for the comments and for watching…
@jesusrodriguez2450Ай бұрын
@@oldschoolsprinklers9000 how did you build the base to fit that rotor? If I may ask.
@oldschoolsprinklers9000Ай бұрын
I built a portable sprinkler stand manifold from galvanized pipe and fittings with various size risers including 1”, 3/4” and 1/2” to accommodate whatever size I need for the particular sprinkler that I am featuring. Each riser has an independent valve on it to control them on or off independently. The entire manifold is supplied with a 3/4” hose to pipe connection.
@NelsonBigGunP200FanАй бұрын
Nice toro gear drive! It gets good coverage and distance !
@oldschoolsprinklers9000Ай бұрын
Thank you!
@kerryvinci5287Ай бұрын
That is a cool little spray head! I thought it was a 122 at first but its non adjustable... they put out a nice spray. I Many 122"s running in the yard, they due tend to clog easily but they work well; I have both labeled Febco and Buckner.... Interesting that the 122 has the same model for both lines as most other duplicated heads had a completely different nomenclature. Thanks for sharing!
@oldschoolsprinklers9000Ай бұрын
It is surprising of how good of a spray it gives. This 120 does not have a flow adjustment screw. I will have to look for a 122 and note the comparison. I could see it being a clogging issue. Maybe to install a fine mesh inline filter on the line could be helpful. Thank you for your comments and for watching…
@DirtygardenCAАй бұрын
that's a really nice stream, no mist
@oldschoolsprinklers9000Ай бұрын
Thank you for the comments and for watching!
@DirtygardenCAАй бұрын
this was fascinating, thank you for sharing
@oldschoolsprinklers9000Ай бұрын
Thanks for watching
@antiquesprinklersАй бұрын
Love the Thompson sprays. I’ve only had one of the 117’s. The four of these together look great!
@oldschoolsprinklers9000Ай бұрын
Thanks Bill, they were really putting out a nice coverage!
@antiquesprinklersАй бұрын
Love seeing the name FEBCO on a sprinkler and not just backflows!
@oldschoolsprinklers9000Ай бұрын
I agree!
@kmain0Ай бұрын
Wow 30 years... they dont make them how they used to.... so its the original owners as well? Damn... I cant imagine calling some guy who installed something for me 30 years ago and getting the same guy.
@oldschoolsprinklers9000Ай бұрын
These brass Thompson sprinklers stand the test of time. All they really need is an occasional cleaning of the screens of debris. I have known these people for a very long time being very close friends of the family. Thank for the comments and for watching…
@kmain0Ай бұрын
never heard of these... before my time... really cool seeing older stuff... metal risers! I guess PVC wasnt around.
@oldschoolsprinklers9000Ай бұрын
Thank you for your comments and for watching
@photocontrolАй бұрын
The strip spray really rocks with the high pressure!
@oldschoolsprinklers9000Ай бұрын
They can really create a fogging effect with very high pressure. Thanks for watching…
@photocontrolАй бұрын
Nice shrub heads. They put out a pretty good volume at 3 GPM.
@oldschoolsprinklers9000Ай бұрын
Thank you
@photocontrolАй бұрын
A decent shrub spray. A pretty simple design that works well.
@oldschoolsprinklers9000Ай бұрын
Thanks
@NelsonBigGunP200FanАй бұрын
Nice shrub sprays! 4 of them working together is neat! With your high pressure they sure get out there in coverage! Kind of remind me of drop hoses on a center pivot. Just hanging the sprinkler upside down to fight wind drift and irrigating the crops. They also dangle in the wind and move around when the pivot walks. Thank you for sharing!
@oldschoolsprinklers9000Ай бұрын
Thank you for the comments. And thanks for watching…
@photocontrolАй бұрын
Nice Rain Bird shrub head! Good coverage with it's gentle spray.
@oldschoolsprinklers9000Ай бұрын
Thank you
@NelsonBigGunP200FanАй бұрын
Wow! Seeing the full view of that running on your setup is neat! That gets great coverage and even goes up high too! That looks like it would give you a nice soaking had you ran through it! Thank you for sharing!
@oldschoolsprinklers9000Ай бұрын
Thank you for the comments. These type of strip sprays do have a nice coverage like a vertical fan. As hot as it has been here, I have used it to cool off at times. Very convenient!! Lol
@NelsonBigGunP200FanАй бұрын
Nice RB Spray! It's got some good coverage too!. Back in the day I was mostly into impacts but i had a few sprays as well. I do not remember what model or brand though. I know i did have a few green colored ones, but alas my memory escapes me as the brand or model #. I like how you put it up in the air. Definitly gets more range that way. Thank you for sharing! The house I lived in as a child the neighbor to the right had a underground system with Buckner ( I think ? ) Sprays and every once in a while i see them running but they mist terribly due to the pump they have (80PSI), they spray water all over the place!
@oldschoolsprinklers9000Ай бұрын
Thank you for the comments. Back in the day, these type of spray heads were very plentiful and they really did the job. As a demonstration, I open the valve up all the way to show how they can over mist. That is typically not the best to water. Normally keeping the pressure down somewhat to not mist is the best. Thanks for watching…
@antiquesprinklersАй бұрын
Dave, love the Rain Bird shrub sprays. You really capture this one well. It’s hard to get through full pattern to show some times, and you did great. I think getting it a little higher in the air was a great idea.
@oldschoolsprinklers9000Ай бұрын
Thank you Bill for the comments. For whatever reason out of nowhere, I just thought about raising the height this morning just to see how it looks. I think it’s hit! We will probably be seeing a few more episodes with them in place! Thanks for watching…
@antiquesprinklersАй бұрын
Love these strip sprays. It’s great to see how the water exits the sprinkler close up and really like getting the full view of a couple of them running on your rig.
@oldschoolsprinklers9000Ай бұрын
Thank you for your comments. I do have several of these in storage. Yes, it would make a great view of them running together. Thanks for watching…