Jeepers Andy, this archive nearly got away, slipped under my radar 😮 Salute out to all the guys who served on the Bunker Hill and thoughts to all those who didnt make it back to base. Cheers DougT 🇫🇴
@douglasthompson29657 минут бұрын
🇫🇴🇬🇧 Aloha Andy, so we're all back on the Islands this archive, everyone on R&R, crisp whites and uniforms, away from the workload prepping for the conflicts. Cheers DougT 🇫🇴
@808spelunk37 минут бұрын
Welcome back! I was getting a little a worried you went on Liberty yourself! 😅⚓🇺🇸
@douglasthompson29620 минут бұрын
@@808spelunkno chance, it's not summertime here so far this year it's ⛈️☁️☂️ today it's 69f (21c) bbbrrrr 😮 forgot to say at 1:47 what I would give to own a Caddy? Convertible like that, even a spare kidney, 😎 you know I'm only joking 😊 Cheers DougT 🇫🇴
@stevendaniel81264 сағат бұрын
My BMI is normal, with daily work. ALL my friends are FAT.....
@808spelunk4 сағат бұрын
Avoiding flab is tough today with sedentary lifestyles and a food supply pumped full of addictive sugars. Nice job actively navigating this challenging landscape, it takes WORK. 💪👍
@jammeni529212 сағат бұрын
Bunker Hill battle was actually fought on Breed's Hill and the Brits won. What a name for a ship.
@808spelunk4 сағат бұрын
Despite being a tactical victory for the British, the Battle of Bunker Hill was beneficial to the Americans because it demonstrated our ability to stand up to the British army, bolstering colonial morale and proving that we could mount a serious resistance. The heavy British casualties also highlighted the resolve and effectiveness of American forces, garnering support for the revolution.
@stevendaniel812616 сағат бұрын
I loved the Y during the 50's and 60's..... Swimming nude with buddies was relaxing and exhilarating. I really miss it in my twilight years .
@elgato89419 сағат бұрын
VERY VERY SHARP LOOKING SAILOR'S 2:49 THE LEFT ARM AROUND THE OTHER SAILORS WAIST ,GOOD BUDDIES I GUESS?
@808spelunk19 сағат бұрын
No doubt. Men in the 1940s were free to express platonic affection, unlike today's men who are ridden with fear and shame, imposed by those who seek their exclusive attention.
@elgato89416 сағат бұрын
@@808spelunk THANK YOU,GREAT FOTOS HERE🌞🏆🏅🎖
@808spelunk16 сағат бұрын
👍👍⚓🇺🇸
@medavogКүн бұрын
Great video 👍
@benjaminbeebe6555Күн бұрын
Women are free to show affection or even call each other 'girlfriend,' while men are shamed for doing the same thing. So much for 'equal rights..'
@benjaminbeebe6555Күн бұрын
As a Gen X'er, I am just old enough to remember going to the athletic club with my late father & thinking nothing of showering or entering the sauna naked with him & other men. I agree with others here who have partly attributed this decline in male spaces to the rise of feminism & women's reactions to the phenomenon in general. Interesting in that they have always insisted on our acceptance of THEIR private spaces--girls' nights out, manicure parties, neighborhood gossip fests over lattes, etc. Just one of many double standards which the female gender has inflicted on our society.
@808spelunkКүн бұрын
Exactly right. Which is what makes the whole "trans bathroom debate" so funny. Female journalists butted their way into men's locker rooms and that was deemed women's lib. But reverse it and watch them go crazy. Apparently privacy is now the domain of women only.
@barrymccall24822 күн бұрын
As if homosexuality didn't exist back then! My uncle who was in Marines back in 50's said that there were more Gays in the Military than straights! Its just that it was more circumspect than it is today.
@808spelunkКүн бұрын
It is common misperception that men in the 1940s were okay with communal nudity for the sheer fact they were ignorant about such matters. This assertion is ridiculous in the extreme, as you make clear with your very informative recollection.
@philipchretienkarlsson81572 күн бұрын
Hey Spelunk buddy, how're ya doin', sailor. Interrestingly enough, I just received an offer from Amazon for a pair of sparkling whites ... the only difference ? Stretch ans super tight ! A different era ...🕺😇
@808spelunk2 күн бұрын
Haha we change shape over time alas! Aloha to you! 🍷🇺🇸👍⚓
@philipchretienkarlsson81572 күн бұрын
Actually, I could wear them because I'm still 6 ' tall, and still weigh 80 lbs .. but sailor's white are more becoming. Anyway, it's just a coincidental offer ! Thanx for your answer ! 🥂🚢👍 And aloha to you too, of course !
@alanpease84742 күн бұрын
Aloha Doug. What hit me while watching this latest presentation was that we could see what people were like and we could see what their interactions with others were like. For me, seeing the people behind all the facts of the war made that history come alive. Thanks for another fascinating presentation.
@kensilva26952 күн бұрын
Is there a 12 step program to become unwokeism?
@808spelunk2 күн бұрын
Here you go! 1. Embrace your inner cynic; trust no one with more buzzwords than a motivational speaker. 2. Ditch diversity training; host a "Unicorn Spotting" workshop instead. 3. Cancel cancel culture; throw a party for sharing unpopular opinions. 4. Reclaim common sense; post your common-sense diploma on social media. 5. Memorize the classics; quote Socrates and Shakespeare over Twitter and TikTok. 6. Host a critical theory bonfire; enjoy the warmth of intellectual freedom. 7. Form a free speech book club; read Orwell and Huxley as warnings, not manuals. 8. Practice selective hearing; nod and smile through talks of microaggressions. 9. Start a satirical blog; write absurd fake news that people might take seriously. 10. Redefine safe spaces; create "The Logic Room" for rational thoughts only. 11. Create an anti-victimhood mantra; "I am not oppressed; I just make bad choices." 12. Host an annual woke funeral; resurrect critical thinking with a stiff drink and Atlas Shrugged.
@kensilva26953 күн бұрын
How can wo,eism affect men, or anyone else, when tnis "woke" is made up by Repu licans to attack anything they dont like. How can wokeism be a corporation, a person, a grocery store and now men, all at the same time? Now is it whats being alled wo,e wasnt woke a out 2-3 yezrs🎉ago? Is there a test given that shows a corporation or store, woke? What the hell is woke? Nobody, especially those who are saying this and that are woke, dont define the word, and who made the decision and why the decision was made such person, place or thing is woke? It seems everything deemed woke is a liberal, democratic or left leaning? Nevera republican, or right leaning? How and why is that? AGAIN, what is wokeism?
@808spelunk2 күн бұрын
Wokeism: it's a surrealist movement of modern academia, transforming every mundane topic into a labyrinth of convoluted jargon and faux outrage. You could also say it's a Kafkaesque bureaucracy of identity politics, drowning in its own contradictions and endlessly inventing new categories of grievance. Take your pick!
@douglasthompson2963 күн бұрын
RIP George Hollingsworth, there's nothing else needed for this archive. Yours DougT
@808spelunk3 күн бұрын
I feel so terribly for George. Came so close to getting home... 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
@douglasthompson2963 күн бұрын
@@808spelunkprecisely ❤️ for his departed soul.
@user-uo7fw5bo1o3 күн бұрын
Don't forget the ubiquitousness of smart phones that can take a pic of you nude and send it around the world! That's one reason why teen boys hate p.e. showers.
@808spelunk3 күн бұрын
A new social factor. Another is the ability of young people to shame and humiliate one another using technology. Cruelty becomes amplified.
@garymorris18564 күн бұрын
I was looking for my Dad, he was in the 873rd, but thought I might see him in this, didn't, but great to watch.
@808spelunk4 күн бұрын
Oh shoot, well glad you still got to watch and enjoy it. 👍
@mikepeterson97335 күн бұрын
Good lord, Gary's navy buddies were dreamy. Yowza!
@bartsmith13045 күн бұрын
One of those first pics, with sailors on a balcony, is not the Royal Hawaiian, but the YMCA with is now an art museum.
@808spelunk4 күн бұрын
Which location? I thought the Manoa location turned into a business school building?
@PeterShieldsukcatstripey5 күн бұрын
Such beaut blokes
@scottyg91675 күн бұрын
One of your best ever. As a merchant mariner myself, I found myself engulfed in a lot of familiar settings and images - without, thankfully, the specter of war looming over my head. Bravo!
@808spelunk5 күн бұрын
A sentimental journey to a distant but familiar place. 👍 Glad you enjoyed this one! ✌️✌️🇺🇸⚓
@scepticalchymist6 күн бұрын
I never understand what is the problem with Americans. Nudity is natural. That's how we are all born. Get used to it. There is something to say about most bodies not being super aesthetic, yes, and clothing adds something appreciative to the style of men and women which happen not to be Greek athletes, but otherwise there should not be any societal norms for it. People totally lost their connection to what is natural.
@808spelunk5 күн бұрын
Hopefully the video sheds some light in the effect of damaging social movements during the mid to late 20th century that have inflicted this social problem on American men. By understanding the factors, we can begin to address and remedy them.
@tommunyon28746 күн бұрын
USS Southerland (DD 743) was the first ship I was assigned to after Surface Warfare School. She saw service in the final months of World War II in the Pacific thester and was a Naval Reserve ship by the time I reported. It was a mere 5 months after I was assigned as 1st Lieutenant that she was decommissioned.
@808spelunk6 күн бұрын
That's pretty neat you got to serve on board those final few months. ⚓✌️🇺🇸
@philipchretienkarlsson81576 күн бұрын
Congratulations , and thanks for these interreseting pix to sailor pink !💪✌
@808spelunk6 күн бұрын
What a great nickname huh! I wonder how he got it.
@philipchretienkarlsson81576 күн бұрын
Who knows, who knows, who knows ...
@davidfryer93596 күн бұрын
There goes the fallacy of systemic racism 🎉at 0:33 and 6:02. G-D NEVER cared what color a man is. He judges all by our beating heart's content 😂😂😂😂😂😂 Silly race pushers.
@808spelunk6 күн бұрын
When others choose to view everything under the sun through the lens of racialism and a hierarchy of oppression, we cheat ourselves from focusing on our common humanity. ✌️✌️
@davidfryer93596 күн бұрын
@@808spelunk and the best way to do that is men's spaces. And no clothes. Something happens in locker rooms when men shower, steam, whirlpool and change together. It equalizes us.
@douglasthompson2966 күн бұрын
🇫🇴🇬🇧 Heyas Andy, 5⭐ you've earned a few 🍻 assembling this archive. Guys just being guys away from home with a job to do. For the biggest part how trim, lean and healthy they looked. I have touched on that in many posts with you. More so the shirtless images 😎 A vital service too as a hospital ship and some of the casualties they saw, well it dont bear thinking about. Great to see the ship pulling into SF under the Golden Bridge. Well i never even sailor Santa and Christmas made an appearance. Cheers DougT 🇫🇴
@808spelunk6 күн бұрын
Aren't those San Francisco harbor shots great? They give an evocative impression of the emotions felt when those ships pulled into shore. Must have been especially true after a tour of duty during the war. ✌️✌️🇺🇸
@tonytherf-mb3dg6 күн бұрын
Very enjoyable. If I am not mistaken, was that bags of mail that was delivered to the ship?
@808spelunk6 күн бұрын
I didn't spot that, I'll have another look. I was focused on the SF and boxing shots. Did you notice what was probably sports bets going on before the rounds? 🥊🥊
@tonytherf-mb3dg6 күн бұрын
@808spelunk Ah, yes I did. 🙂
@zabadazidit6 күн бұрын
For some reason, I found the pic at 2:50 to be a little sad. It was his birthday, and instead of spending it with his family, he was out at sea and probably not sure if he'd make it to the next birthday during the war. You can tell from the expression on his face that it's a bittersweet feeling.
@808spelunk6 күн бұрын
That's an interesting take on the cake pictures, I'll go back and look. It didn't strike me that way the first time around, but no doubt there's probably truth in what you say. Interesting thing about photos is that we all view and interpret them slightly differently.
@DaninVirgina-mg7rf6 күн бұрын
I didn't notice that.
@zabadazidit6 күн бұрын
Have a proud D-Day, all!
@philipchretienkarlsson81576 күн бұрын
Really tops ! Thanks fo the video
@808spelunk6 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it, sailor!✌️✌️
@philipchretienkarlsson81576 күн бұрын
No one is more elegant than a saylor wearing his summer whites. It's as if he was becoming a new man !👋✌🥇 Today is ANSAC Day, and I watched the very moving comemorative ceremonies on TV ... and thought of all the sailors who never made it back home. But their pictures are preserved and can be seen thanks to your videos. God Bless them All .
@808spelunk6 күн бұрын
Agree, an iconic look that should be brought back again. It showed pride in neatness and order, a value and attribute lacking today. Bless all who have served. ✌️✌️🇺🇸
@vic-iv2ff7 күн бұрын
Of women had to get out and fight wars they would shut up
@nathanielsizemore39467 күн бұрын
I prefer the originals, the AI ones look too fake.
@2Bluzin7 күн бұрын
Woman routinely body shame men today as well. Just show them a pic of a man in a speedo at the beach and it's "eww, gross, nasty, that should be illegal". Meanwhile, women can wear a g-sting and bikinis on even "plus size" bodies and no one is allowed to say a thing about it. Suddenly it's body shaming woman. Double standards.
@ronheflin97677 күн бұрын
Lot of BS here.
@808spelunk7 күн бұрын
What is your argument? It's easy to insult and run away, more difficult to state your case.
@2Bluzin7 күн бұрын
Sounds more like you have an issues with your own body than ability to understand history.
@jmatt4life7 күн бұрын
Someone should start up, revive men only gyms.
@808spelunk7 күн бұрын
Would be great but the feminists would come out and litigate. Up until the mid-20th century we had these but activists obliterated them. A real loss for men's spaces and privacy!
@tonytherf-mb3dg8 күн бұрын
Awesome photo collection of Arthur's. 😊
@808spelunk8 күн бұрын
Hey Tony glad you enjoyed this one. He took some great snapshots didn't he?
@Unknown178 күн бұрын
Wonder where they got that name, Kaskaskia. Was it a person, a place? Uncle Bob's stage name at the Copacabana?
@808spelunk8 күн бұрын
Appears it probably originates from the name of the Kaskaskia tribe, one of the tribes of the Illinois Confederation. The Kaskaskia were among the first Native American groups to have contact with French explorers and missionaries in the 17th century. Allusion to American settlement of the new world? I'm not sure myself.
@Unknown176 күн бұрын
@@808spelunk Some good insight there. Thanks!
@KoldingDenmark8 күн бұрын
Youg men have lost their freedom because of their morhers' interference. They don't realize what they are missing and have lost. Feel sorry for them.
@808spelunk8 күн бұрын
Absolutely true. Once you force the cutting of intergenerational socialization between men, the younger generation will have no way of knowing how they've been cheated out of a self-actualized masculinity.
@boandlkramer25398 күн бұрын
I did NOT change it ☝️🏳️🌈 Its still my way of life 💖
@808spelunk8 күн бұрын
Change what?
@zabadazidit8 күн бұрын
I love the pic of "the boys" at 0:30 - very wholesome-looking bunch!
@808spelunk8 күн бұрын
It's a great snapshot!⚓✌️
@alanpease84748 күн бұрын
Andy-- This video was once agsin a chance for me to learn about a subject I knew nothing about. Let no one think their lives were easy: The part about the two ships being hooked together for refueling while both ships were moving was to me downright scary.
@hiramevans91588 күн бұрын
Nice to see some recognition for the fleet auxiliaries; my late father spent 1939-1945 about a single, small, WWI-vintage fleet oiler, USS Sepulga, AO-20, sailing from boredom to tedium and back again, punctuated by brief periods of terror, so the 'fighting ships' could do what they did. A fleet without oil, stores, and ammunition is called a target.
@808spelunk8 күн бұрын
You got it. Thanks for your father's story, these guys were real heroes doing the grunt work of fueling and general support. I'll add to your list and mention that steel is another potential for vulnerability during war. Unless the country has a robust steel industry to build these ships, we will find ourselves in trouble.
@alanpease84748 күн бұрын
As usual, Andy, this video was a chance to learn something about a subject I knew nothing about. Let no one think life was fairly carefree for these men. The part about trying to refuel a ship while both ships were in motion made me realize how dangerous and difficult this operation must have been.
@808spelunk8 күн бұрын
Really glad you enjoyed it! Yes, imagine refueling while still in motion. This also occurs in aviation and is called aerial refueling if you're not already familiar.
@douglasthompson2969 күн бұрын
🇫🇴🇬🇧 Aloha Andy, your back on your usual islands again. Looks like Arthur(?) numbered his pictures and there probably was a description/names etc on the back 👍 to remind him. As a tanker ship the Kaskaskia would have been a very busy vessel too and I guess it was armed too as the fuel it carried was vital. Cheers DougT 🇫🇴
@808spelunk9 күн бұрын
Aloooooha! 🌺 You're right. For these collections there are often names, locations, dates, and related info written on the back. An "irony" of our digital world is that physical records like these with embedded information will survive into the future, whereas digital detritus will simply disappear once somebody stops paying the bills! ✌️✌️⚓🇺🇸
@douglasthompson2968 күн бұрын
@@808spelunk your spot on the mark, those ☁️ ☁️☁️ need to be fed 💰💰💰or it all goes onto the 🚮🚮
@808spelunk8 күн бұрын
@douglasthompson296 haha yes indeed ✌️✌️
@wfwillis9 күн бұрын
US Navy 1962-1984. As an enlisted sailor in my dress blues, I had the liberty cuffs, zipper up the side on my jumper, and had my 13-button pants legs pegged....sharp uniform. When making CPO, I thought the dress khakis were the sharpest-looking uniform. CWO4 USN Ret.
@808spelunk9 күн бұрын
Hey thanks for this comment and memories, that uniform must have looked super sharp with all those features! Your service is appreciated, sir. ✌️✌️⚓🇺🇸
@wfwillis9 күн бұрын
I also double-rolled my neckerchief.
@wfwillis9 күн бұрын
@@808spelunk I was a ShipsServiceman at the time (Barber) and we had sharp uniforms. We even wore starched and pressed dungarees. Later, when I converted to ET, I still wore starched and pressed dungarees.
@808spelunk9 күн бұрын
@wfwillis Very cool, I hope you've got some portrait shots capturing it. Any thoughts on the new Navy uniforms? Kind of the opposite of sharp, right? Let's bring back those iconic classics from when you served.
@wfwillis9 күн бұрын
@@808spelunk I have several videos of my Navy service on my WF Willis channel. The old dress blues jumper and 13-button bell bottom pants are the sharpest uniform for E-1 thru E-6, and dress Khakis for CPOs and officers. The Chambray blue shirt and Seafarer dungaree pants were the sharpest for a work uniform for E-1 thru E-6. This new blue camouflage uniform they have now looks like crap.
@craigster12349 күн бұрын
WOMEN are why today's' men are ashamed of their bodies.
@808spelunk9 күн бұрын
That's the heart of it. A dominant feminist cultural narrative teaches men the following: fear of association with other men, fear of not measuring up (can be anything), the view that a man's body is ugly and threatening, the view that men have no legitimate needs specific to their gender. No wonder young men today are angry and disenchanted.
@zabadazidit10 күн бұрын
Right on buddy!
@808spelunk9 күн бұрын
Always good to hear from you!✌️
@unixsocks11 күн бұрын
I believe your arguments have some fallacies. I'm arguing with your ideas and not you as a person so please hear me out. circular reasoning & strawman - "wokeism marginalizes men by positioning them as the primary oppressor" your conclusion is already established in the premise without providing any evidence to support your argument. Social justice movements do have some misandrists but they do not represent the idea; the consensus among feminist movements is rather that a patriarchy negatively impacts men as they do not have the social support to be vulnerable. appeal to tradition & hasty generalization - you make the assumption that traditional gender roles positively impact men (some kinda do as its nice for men to be able to choose a social framework to navigate the world with) but masculinity should be seen in a more positive light with men being able to open up about their problems. You claim that social justice has divided masculinity into several different gender identities but masculinity is interpreted differently between people and forcing men into the traditional binary isn't the best choice for every one which actually ties into your belief that social justice movements ignore individual experiences. Most of the social justice movement sees the opportunity for positive masculinity. I feel like the culture war has divided us to only see the most extreme parts of the political spectrum. They want conservatives to believe that every left winger is a sjw gender abolitionist anarchist and every progressive to see right wingers as "white trash" homophobic racists which isn't true for either side. They want us to fight each other with social issues while other problems get ignored.
@808spelunk11 күн бұрын
Thanks for the comments. Unfortunately your thoughts aren't coherent and jump all over in the map, even within the same paragraphs. Please distill your thoughts more effectively and we can discuss further.
@stemm0911 күн бұрын
Is the wokeism in the room with you now?
@808spelunk11 күн бұрын
Yes, it's like a pestilence that won't go away. But nothing that healthy living and an active brain can't get rid of. 💪🧠
@robertbarth472311 күн бұрын
Perfect analysis. There is no justification for blatant discrimination. Thank you.
@808spelunk11 күн бұрын
Never is, however much it is rationalized as being justified. Thanks for your comment. 👍✌️
@felixalmeida48111 күн бұрын
Pity that this edifying commentary (on the sadly neglected subject of MALE COMMUNAL IDENTITY & SEXUAL EXPRESSIONS) cut out Two-thirds of the way through the video. Any hope of remedying this?
@808spelunk11 күн бұрын
Sorry about that there was a copyright claim and I had to cut out the track.
@jonathanpeterson402812 күн бұрын
I think this is completely dumb. Wokism is a product of the grifter and outrage economy targeting people who don’t care to read and discover the history and facts of people they believe are completely different from them. The fear mongering actually works to facilitate that status quo (alienation) and line the pockets of the those who whip into existence a new bogeyman. Through a deep dive at the edges of diverse perspectives and philosophy - men might find that the answer to the liberation they seek and community they long for is being marketed as the devil and something evil as in the tradition church institutions of yester year. Think freelly and read for yourself. Go on an intellectual adventure and try to see a bit of yourself in the “other”.- ask yourself why being aware of social ills and the people who defend the status quo for the few (also known as being woke) is a bad thing or how could a woke person be that way from reasonable and just stand point. Most of all fight for your emotional needs in a prosocial way while seeing yourself in the other, put love over monetary profit, and you too might find that you are woke.
@808spelunk11 күн бұрын
Thank you for encouraging the individual man to think for himself and to actively explore social issues. This is the path to true awareness and empathy in the genuine, non-dogmatic sense. Dogma and ideology are groupthink mechanisms that typically support those in power rather than liberate the individual mind and heart.
@spinlok394311 күн бұрын
Wokesim started off with good intentions but morphed into a crazed extremism. Nowadays it’s impossible to take seriously.
@808spelunk11 күн бұрын
Couldn't agree more. No different than seeing North Koreans chanting for their great leader. Consciousness of social issues is not a bad thing but everything under the sun is open to interpretation by the individual mind. Enforced, predigested interpretation creates a society of parrots and only enforces a status quo.
@jonathanpeterson402810 күн бұрын
@@808spelunk I agree. I just think the disconnect here is that by using the term wokism as a catch all that is not easily definable - you are pushing a predetermined interpretation with no roots that maintains the status quo. It’s a mirror image of the thing we are fighting against - not trying to police your language though- just pointing out its not that smart towards resolving the any issues you and contradictory out mutual aim