2024 YAMAHA MT09 INTAKE TESTING
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@SenthilShetty27
@SenthilShetty27 Күн бұрын
What would you suggest between Arrow slip on vs Yoshimura AT2 slip on for ZX4RR
@vcyclenut
@vcyclenut Күн бұрын
there is no performance reason to choose one over the other, pick the one you like the looks and price of
@dmiller4222
@dmiller4222 2 күн бұрын
Hi David...great video! Question: There are 2 different Leo Vince LV Series exhausts for the 2024 MT09. What PN exhaust did you test and tune? There is PN14371EBU which is Euro 5. And there is PN14452EBU which is Euro 5+. The Euro 5+ has a lower rated db...so I assume it has more baffles and less flow. Do you have the PN? Much appreciated!
@vcyclenut
@vcyclenut 2 күн бұрын
Thanks!! 14371ebu. Here in the usa we have one o2 sensor. No need for the other part number
@Jurshhh
@Jurshhh 3 күн бұрын
Does this have ANY negative impact on your valves if you leave the AIS stock but get an aftermarket exhaust? I see people saying your valves won’t like the popping on decel
@vcyclenut
@vcyclenut 3 күн бұрын
if that was the case why would the factory put this system in it? it pops and flames with the stock exhaust you just cant see or hear it
@Jurshhh
@Jurshhh 3 күн бұрын
@ got it. Thank you so much for clarifying mine and others stupidity lol
@vcyclenut
@vcyclenut 3 күн бұрын
@@Jurshhh it’s not stupidity. It’s just not knowing and people repeating it again and again so it seems like it must be true
@maxm6853
@maxm6853 4 күн бұрын
Glad to see youre getting one. I got my deposit in my guy said early march. Looking forward to seeing what you can do with it.
@vcyclenut
@vcyclenut 3 күн бұрын
thank you! fingers crossed that date holds!
@jirechestose5987
@jirechestose5987 5 күн бұрын
Sir may i ask? Can I dyno tune my Yamaha R3 with just a full system exhaust and high flow air filter and not changing a block off plate? Will there be issues?
@vcyclenut
@vcyclenut 5 күн бұрын
your tuner is the proper person to ask
@H3ll4Flush
@H3ll4Flush 5 күн бұрын
You are a genius, im a student in powersport and I hope I will become as skilled as you
@vcyclenut
@vcyclenut 5 күн бұрын
I am definitely not a genius, but I greatly appreciate it Good luck ! I hope you have a successful , fulfilling career !
@ToddSloanIAAN
@ToddSloanIAAN 7 күн бұрын
Can an M4 can be purchased by itself without the whole header pipe as a set?
@vcyclenut
@vcyclenut 6 күн бұрын
looking at their website, no , looks like they only sell a full system
@ToddSloanIAAN
@ToddSloanIAAN 7 күн бұрын
A crop of vich... Toe che' and you got the better looking one and a cool video.
@vcyclenut
@vcyclenut 6 күн бұрын
you may be correct with the akra but I asked the guys at Toce and its pronounce like an s , toe ssss
@abrahamherrerasaad2652
@abrahamherrerasaad2652 7 күн бұрын
So if you like pops and bangs let it as it is if you do not like pops and bangs then change it for the caps!!
@josecortes6855
@josecortes6855 7 күн бұрын
Kelpi is Aliexpress rebadged !!😂
@vcyclenut
@vcyclenut 7 күн бұрын
no its not, stop it
@ChatNoir_38
@ChatNoir_38 7 күн бұрын
Hello , quel est le meilleur bruit pour vous entre Leo Vince Lv Race et la Dominator que vous avez tester ?
@vcyclenut
@vcyclenut 7 күн бұрын
I like the more quite leo vince, the dominator is too loud
@gnaug6655
@gnaug6655 8 күн бұрын
Awesome content! I've had the deposit down on an R9. I'm going to make it as track oriented as possible. I'm curious based on your experience, what would be the best performance-oriented exhaust for this sweet CP3 engine? I think I'll get the exhaust with your ECU flash all together, maybe with a DNA filter too. I've heard filters like these might end up damaging the engine because it allows more unwanted particles and debris to pass, which I'm not sure whether is a myth or not.
@vcyclenut
@vcyclenut 7 күн бұрын
I would wait and see what comes out specifically for the r9. I know there is going to be some different ones than we have now for the mt09 any filter that lets more air in is going to let more dirt particles in. no way around it. I have sprint filters on all of my bikes and have never had an issue just depends on your priorities, I know people with aftermarket filters with a ton of miles on their bikes with no issues
@gnaug6655
@gnaug6655 7 күн бұрын
@@vcyclenut Thanks, I guess all I can do now is wait patiently lol.
@vcyclenut
@vcyclenut 7 күн бұрын
@ you and me both
@troyfulton5542
@troyfulton5542 8 күн бұрын
What saddle bags are those?
@vcyclenut
@vcyclenut 8 күн бұрын
Sorry I don’t know
@JeremyHansenblue2kid3
@JeremyHansenblue2kid3 8 күн бұрын
One thing I would like to see in formatting is Stock bike Vs. Flash + New Exhaust.
@vcyclenut
@vcyclenut 8 күн бұрын
That is in every exhaust testing/tuning video I do.
@dizzicz
@dizzicz 9 күн бұрын
Thx. 1. Why do you think Yamaha is setting maps in this way? Emission limits, huge gas consumption vs performance gain? There should be some logic. 2. There are several levels of engine braking in bike's menu. Here it looked all the same. Am I wrong, or is it set somewhere else?
@vcyclenut
@vcyclenut 9 күн бұрын
Please be specific on what maps your speaking about There may be more maps that woolich will need to give access to. As I said in the video it’s common on new ecu’s to work with woolich to tweak what we have access to. I’ll be able to speak more to that once I start testing with the actual bike.
@dizzicz
@dizzicz 9 күн бұрын
@@vcyclenut ok, I've made an assumption that @19:37 ETV Deceleration is the table which would Yamaha's engine brake control menu option use to set amount of the engine braking. However four maps which you showed looks same. So it is probably not the case.
@vcyclenut
@vcyclenut 9 күн бұрын
@ it is the base engine braking map for each power mode. 1-4 There may be more maps that are taken into account if the bike has a few deceleration settings.
@dizzicz
@dizzicz 9 күн бұрын
@@vcyclenut yes, and that (a) appendix in name would correspond to second EBM level.
@markhall3434
@markhall3434 11 күн бұрын
'23 XSR9 with the World Famous Vcyclenut Flash.. Big fan of your Flash, Dave.. Really smoothed it all out, and with the Dual Can Dominator sounds superb w/o too loud. Yamaha really hit it out of the park on this bike, at an unbelievable price. Dave Knows the CP3!
@markhall3434
@markhall3434 11 күн бұрын
Arguably the CP3 has best Quick Shifter in the Biz. Kaw has a lotta work to do to catch up, IMO.
@soldo76
@soldo76 11 күн бұрын
Hi David, so considering stock ecu, what is the best exhaust for the2024 in your opinion? not estetic but performance and weight, grazie mille!
@vcyclenut
@vcyclenut 10 күн бұрын
none, stand out to me that I would call one the best
@Kennardrynlds87
@Kennardrynlds87 11 күн бұрын
You forgot about the Arrow full exhaust with a tune. It made a couple more horsepower and torque than both exhausts mentioned.
@vcyclenut
@vcyclenut 10 күн бұрын
To be totally fair. My bike is putting down bigger numbers than it was when I first started testing.
@zionlankri1794
@zionlankri1794 12 күн бұрын
Its weird , yoshi local shop tried to instal the exhaust on my 2024 mt with no sucsses due to the fact that theres two oxygen valves , unlike the 2023 mt09 which had only one...
@vcyclenut
@vcyclenut 12 күн бұрын
im guessing you are in Europe? In the USA we only have one o2 sensor
@izzatismail8399
@izzatismail8399 13 күн бұрын
Hi bro. What about the afr after change to toce exhaust? Is it lean or rich?
@vcyclenut
@vcyclenut 13 күн бұрын
It’s leaner in some areas and richer in others. Air fuel is never just lean or rich like most people think about it If you leave the intake side alone it’s not dangerously lean with the exhaust if that’s what you are really asking.
@diogoramos7720
@diogoramos7720 13 күн бұрын
Is it very loud with the db killer?
@vcyclenut
@vcyclenut 13 күн бұрын
Pretty sure there are sound level measurements in the video
@shaun8256
@shaun8256 14 күн бұрын
If you think back pressure is a myth go ahead and just remove the pipes all together and see what happens! I will guaranty you'll torch your valves and have no power!
@vcyclenut
@vcyclenut 13 күн бұрын
lol. I did say length of pipe was important. Remove the exhaust completely you loose 100% of the scavenging effect
@menna072
@menna072 14 күн бұрын
If you want to have an effective gain you should test this airbox mode with a Sprintiflter filter, it is more performing than classic cotton filters. Will you do it?
@vcyclenut
@vcyclenut 12 күн бұрын
I’ve always found the sprint to perform better than an oiled filter. Waiting on my distributor to get the sprint in stock.
@Tennisbull-match-statistics
@Tennisbull-match-statistics 14 күн бұрын
The motion pro tool has small baffles in the vacuum tubes that make for a better reading without jumping so much
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket 14 күн бұрын
Any word on whether Woolich will offer BIN access to the ECU on this bike?
@vcyclenut
@vcyclenut 14 күн бұрын
No word yet but they don’t give me their plans for future development.
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket 14 күн бұрын
@@vcyclenut Thanks for the response.
@giostella6761
@giostella6761 15 күн бұрын
is it the same exhaust as the 2023? or do we need to modify something?
@vcyclenut
@vcyclenut 14 күн бұрын
It bolted right up with my usa spec bike.
@vcyclenut
@vcyclenut 14 күн бұрын
It bolted right up to my usa spec bike
@giostella6761
@giostella6761 14 күн бұрын
@@vcyclenut in what sense usa specs, did you buy the exhaust for the 2023 correct?
@vcyclenut
@vcyclenut 14 күн бұрын
@@giostella6761 meaning some market 24 mt09’s have 2 o2 Sensors. The usa spec bike has 1. Yes it’s the 21-23 exhaust
@lorenzodigiovanni2419
@lorenzodigiovanni2419 15 күн бұрын
i have stock headers and catalitic converter but straight pipe slip on, do i need to remap?
@vcyclenut
@vcyclenut 15 күн бұрын
Are you asking if a slip on is safe with the stock mapping?
@Tennisbull-match-statistics
@Tennisbull-match-statistics 16 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing. Are the MT09 and Tracer 9 tunes identical?
@vcyclenut
@vcyclenut 16 күн бұрын
the ecu is not interchangeable but all of the mapping related to tuning are identical on the 2 bikes because I set up my ecu's to the customers modifications and preferences, I can do 2 flashes for the same bike with same mods and they might not be identical but yes all things being equal they are the same
@marktarascio4766
@marktarascio4766 16 күн бұрын
What about stepped headers. .like primary 1 into 1 1\2 secondary tubes ?
@vcyclenut
@vcyclenut 16 күн бұрын
I’m guessing they are balancing velocity with how much it can flow for the desired rpm’s they want the exhaust to work best.
@wernerxldata
@wernerxldata 17 күн бұрын
Next to Woolich there's also Dimsport, they support platforms like the MT09/R9 as well...
@vcyclenut
@vcyclenut 16 күн бұрын
Thanks. I’ll check them out
@A.J.21
@A.J.21 17 күн бұрын
2wdw acted like this ecu is impossible to get your hands on, and talked to the camera like we are all retarded
@scotsmith8810
@scotsmith8810 17 күн бұрын
thanks I'm gonna pull my muffler tonight and run straight pipe only. I shouldn't lose power right?
@vcyclenut
@vcyclenut 17 күн бұрын
Make sure you replace the muffler with at least as long pipe
@therealmoo666
@therealmoo666 17 күн бұрын
What do we recommend k8 600 getting a full system m4 and a ecu flash is this something i should look at doing or leave it be?
@vcyclenut
@vcyclenut 17 күн бұрын
it makes no difference in performance , its all personal taste
@mathieusynnott8915
@mathieusynnott8915 17 күн бұрын
So there is no performance camshaft yet?
@mathieusynnott8915
@mathieusynnott8915 17 күн бұрын
Crower has some for mt09 i wonder how wild they are. And how high they make power.
@vcyclenut
@vcyclenut 17 күн бұрын
Yes and we will see other companies coming public with some
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket 17 күн бұрын
All the beautiful ECU adjustments the big celebrity channels don't bother adjusting (or explaining, like full disclosure), and then charge twice as much. 😆 Thanks for what you do!
@copperaudio9664
@copperaudio9664 17 күн бұрын
Love it! The truth will set you free - and - make you go faster.
@rustcohle6248
@rustcohle6248 17 күн бұрын
Do you think some of the exhausts from the mt-09 will fit the r9? Both stock exhausts look indentical in pictures.
@vcyclenut
@vcyclenut 17 күн бұрын
I don’t think they will be a direct bolt on as the areas that most of them bolt to are a bit different. I’m guessing a simple bracket would make some of them fit but hard to say with the lower fairing which ones without trying.
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket 17 күн бұрын
Mounting location beneath the bike will not be the same. Side-pipe will be required to be changed, probably lengthened. In short, no.
@vcyclenut
@vcyclenut 17 күн бұрын
@ all guesses till I have a bike here
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket 17 күн бұрын
@@vcyclenut Guess is the appropriate word, I suppose. I know the frame isn't the same as the MT frame. The side mounted exhausts may be appropriate but the mounts will probably change. Belly exhaust may not work anymore due to fairings.
@vcyclenut
@vcyclenut 17 күн бұрын
@ the stock exhaust is the same and belly mount
@Juuul89
@Juuul89 18 күн бұрын
Excellent video! Learned so much.
@vcyclenut
@vcyclenut 18 күн бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket 18 күн бұрын
These phrases and terms have persisted in the motorsports industry for decades and decades, even when they are false by principle. Frustrating. Some headers have crossover tubes and some don't. I'm assuming those also aid in scavenging?
@vcyclenut
@vcyclenut 17 күн бұрын
The act to equal the pressure between tubes. I’ve never noticed a difference in power when testing system with vs without cross over tubes.
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket 17 күн бұрын
@@vcyclenut I've wondered about it. I've seen it done both ways on expensive brands and I've never seen a rhyme or rhythm about the logic one way or another.
@mathieusynnott8915
@mathieusynnott8915 18 күн бұрын
what is the redline on WSBK R9?
@vcyclenut
@vcyclenut 18 күн бұрын
wish I knew, calculating safe piston speed and comparing to some other motors I would guess north of 12,000
@mathieusynnott8915
@mathieusynnott8915 18 күн бұрын
@vcyclenut Im curious why moto 2 engine 765 are that much capable compare to Yamaha r9 wsbk. Similar engine to me.
@vcyclenut
@vcyclenut 18 күн бұрын
@ internal component quality. Pure race motor vs production based motor
@mathieusynnott8915
@mathieusynnott8915 18 күн бұрын
@@vcyclenut r9 WSBK is based from the oem R9 and moto 2 are based from the moto 2 streetbike. There is a street moto 2 model limited but it exist.
@mathieusynnott8915
@mathieusynnott8915 17 күн бұрын
@@vcyclenut street model 13250rpm, moto 2 gp 14 200rpm.
@caboosez250
@caboosez250 18 күн бұрын
It always struck me that the back pressure debate stems from 2 stroke exhaust. As it needs the back pulse to shut off the port
@vcyclenut
@vcyclenut 18 күн бұрын
that makes sense, I always say old school tuning knowledge dies hard
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket 18 күн бұрын
Two stroke and four stroke engines' exhaust systems function exactly the same way, but the engines have different needs. You can "tune" a four stroke just like a two stroke for the exact same reasons, but you're now dealing with mechanical timing principles related to poppet valves and cam lobes. If it weren't for the emissions regs, four strokes have a lot of potential left untapped. Cost is the biggest things with them, as adding a VVT system to broaden efficiency usually extends the cost of a given engine (non-superbike) beyond the market value of the category.
@haroldsarsaba6932
@haroldsarsaba6932 19 күн бұрын
Boss pag dto ako manila sta ana manila saan malapit na z one moto boss dhil dlhin ko mt09 ko jan boss
@vcyclenut
@vcyclenut 17 күн бұрын
I don’t know where to send you in Manila.
@helgejohan3604
@helgejohan3604 22 күн бұрын
Mt 09 are more linear power, Mt 10 more raw and powerwheelies✊🔥
@empty_inside14
@empty_inside14 22 күн бұрын
Not a question about which exhaust is better, but wanting to know the difference in loudness between the Kelpi and the Akrapovic? Is the Kelpi stupid loud compared to the Akra?
@vcyclenut
@vcyclenut 22 күн бұрын
yes , the akrapoivc is much more quite. Its physics, the larger canister is able to efficiently reduce the sound
@jasonroseworne3993
@jasonroseworne3993 22 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing your knowledge 👍 I’ll leave it as is
@lukecrowe4199
@lukecrowe4199 22 күн бұрын
Do you have the link to purchase?
@lukecrowe4199
@lukecrowe4199 22 күн бұрын
I found it on ya website Do you have a discount code? I liked and subscribed!
@vcyclenut
@vcyclenut 22 күн бұрын
no, sorry I cannot discount the shift lever, there is not enough margin on it
@lukecrowe4199
@lukecrowe4199 19 күн бұрын
@@vcyclenut hey! I'm in Australia it says you don't post?! Can you use a shipping provider that SENDS TO AUSTRALIA? I can't seem to find this product anywhere else.
@vcyclenut
@vcyclenut 19 күн бұрын
@ contact me through the website and we can set something up. Vcyclenut.com
@lukecrowe4199
@lukecrowe4199 19 күн бұрын
@@vcyclenut all done
@klorden240sx8
@klorden240sx8 22 күн бұрын
Can’t wait to get my ecu back just sent it out looking forward to these results
@Slick263
@Slick263 23 күн бұрын
So, funny story. Bike I bought had a 'gixxer brah' previous owner, did the most god awful decat job you've ever seen. And also blanked off the PAIR valve. But, did it in a way that wouldn't let the crankcase breathe. One track day later for the new owner unaware of all of this, and blown head gasket. Very cool.
@vcyclenut
@vcyclenut 23 күн бұрын
Damn that sucks!
@rustcohle6248
@rustcohle6248 23 күн бұрын
Are you still going to be testing anymore exhausts with the mt-09? The Termignoni exhaust looks great but I can't find any info on it at all, no reviews or sound clips, nothing!
@vcyclenut
@vcyclenut 23 күн бұрын
The Hindle is next I looked Into the termi. Its expensive and I have to pay full retail on it. Its a lot to spend on a system for flash development that I don't think will be used much.
@rustcohle6248
@rustcohle6248 23 күн бұрын
@vcyclenut thanks for the reply, I think I'll be going with the hp6 dominator exhaust, it's not too loud and still makes good power! I'll be sending my ECU to you soon, thanks for the content!
@clubstyleridahd4695
@clubstyleridahd4695 24 күн бұрын
This bike looks good. Good power also!