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@cornman75
@cornman75 17 сағат бұрын
I'm just been wondering what the implications of skipping the chapter 2 talk are
@ythan2590
@ythan2590 2 күн бұрын
I might have a counterpoint to what you said Susie's reaction would be if Noelle told her about what Kris has got up to. Someone who grows up in a bad environment learns fast how to deal with dicey situations, Susie is hotheaded but she isn't stupid. If one/both of her parents are manipulative themselves then she will have learned that confronting directly doesn't work. If they think your fighting their influence than they look for other methods to control you. By acting like all is dandy and pushing Kris along she con buy time to act later. Please let me know what you think @Dantes_Integrity .
@bulletkungfu9153
@bulletkungfu9153 2 күн бұрын
I know the pain man
@Quinhala11
@Quinhala11 2 күн бұрын
They kissed, Noelle kissed her
@djneely2999
@djneely2999 2 күн бұрын
I thought it was pronounced LEET motif 😂😂😂😂. For some reason, I also thought it was the Dummy’s name
@DragonitaPurple
@DragonitaPurple 3 күн бұрын
I'm certain they smooched too, judging by Susie's face. Noelle may have been sulking in her room, but when Susie entered and told her this was all a dream, it may have made Noelle snap out of it a bit, and believe what happened to Berdly wasn't real for a moment either. Kris made her "stronger" and do things she'd normally be too scared to do, and since it was all a dream regardless, she'd take the initiative to kiss Susie. According to Susie, Rudy told her about a bunch of places to take Noelle to, possibly setting up a date since Noelle may have been more upfront about her feelings too. Susie wears her emotions on her sleeve, she's not really good at lying, so if either Noelle or Rudy told her something being off about Kris or to be suspicious, she'd be at least more wary for the rest of the chapter.
@Veroniccordion
@Veroniccordion 4 күн бұрын
Maybe worth noting that the image at the start of the game is actually an edited picture of the ocean
@LagrimaArdiente
@LagrimaArdiente 4 күн бұрын
I find that conversation between Susie and Noelle in the Weird Route SUPER fascinating because, as you say, Susie is eager to move on and puts on her lying face when she says it. There are some bits that imply the possibility that it was just something nice but personal. We see Susie playfully tell Kris she'll share the story with them later, Susie is sad when Noelle calls the experience a nightmare but then Noelle says the ending was nice and she gets flustered when Susie -enthusiastically - asks her about it, and after we scare Noelle at the hospital, Susie laments about how sad it is that Noelle doesn't know all that stuff happened for real. And YET. Susie reacts so strongly to Queen after that conversation, demanding that she let Noelle wake up, even though she doesn't need to pretend the adventure is a dream for Queen. IIRC, Queen even has some dialogue implying that Noelle is sleeping as they speak. When Kris goes to close the fountain, Susie runs off to check on Noelle, as if she's concerned about how she feels. So like, which is it? Did something romantic happen or did Noelle show signs of not feeling well?
@embryodemocracy1275
@embryodemocracy1275 4 күн бұрын
"hey everyone, Dante here." INFERNO?!? sorry
@chihuahuarocks9664
@chihuahuarocks9664 5 күн бұрын
Okay but real talk, it would make sense for the player to take control of the one character capable of making independent decisions. Susie is able to do things without the player's say so and often does whatever she feels like.... So, imagine a snow grave-esque route using Susie?
@edfreak9001
@edfreak9001 5 күн бұрын
"...the majority of Ralsei fans..." snrk
@AmbrosiaMooshine
@AmbrosiaMooshine 5 күн бұрын
This is an amazing video I loved it :)
@kyuubitao
@kyuubitao 6 күн бұрын
I was on the "Kris is the Knight" train ever since Ch. 1 was released with no idea if we'd ever get more. But after finishing Ch. 2, I've since changed lanes. Now I'm in the camp of "Kris is A Knight". As in, there are multiple Knights. One per dark fountain.
@Kurzidan
@Kurzidan 6 күн бұрын
In some parts. I would say. Susie can probably tell Noelle was getting "affected poorly" by the dark world, She's just a bystander, "we're the heroes" from the legend, we don't get affected like they apparently do, Berdly even being a problem. In other parts, I would say, After Susie Tells Noelle its just a dream, and Susie thinks well of Noelle Noelle May have, with the route's aid, been more bold and aggressive, with confessions to her. "This is just a dream" afterall. Perhaps more happened, Like a potential Kiss. Perhaps it was just "Heavy" confessions, until an "almost" kiss with a Panicked Susie like "Oh shit I messed up telling her this is a dream, we need to get them out of the dark world, asap" "Hey Noelle I gotta go save the world now okay, real quick, BBbyyeeee" and so proceeds the story. feel that fits with how she told Kris she'd tell em later and how Noelle's "nightmare" was... "nice" at the end"
@llDbGll
@llDbGll 7 күн бұрын
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@Kajichuu
@Kajichuu 7 күн бұрын
i feel like susie is concealing that she gave 2nd base to noelle~ hence why susie goes; "pssst, Kriss, i'll tell ya later ;D" implying it's something that only "best friends" would talk about, ie, getting a smooch or affection from an interest and telling said friend all about it in private. And the talk with Noelle's dad was along the lines of "Hey, for real tho, she's talked alot about you lately, i know when my girl has an interest in someone and.... i just dont want her heart broken again, couldnt bare to see her like that again, if you break her heart, i'll break you." type of conversation.
@nicenoob12345
@nicenoob12345 7 күн бұрын
About Ice-E, he is most DEFINITELY a gun waiting to fire. He could easily be just a running joke, but there's some things I'd like to point out. Two things, to be exact. One, Ice-E is one of the four characters to appear in Undertale, the Light World AND the Dark World, the other three being Everyman, Gaster and The Annoying Dog. Ice-E is one of the only characters to appear in every realm of every game in this series, the others being a character that I don't think we even know anything about, a man that was SHATTERED ACROSS TIME AND SPACE ITSELF, and a character that is literally meant to be a personification of the creator. Keep that in mind. And two, the thing I believe is FAR more important, lets talk about the Snowgrave Route for a second. In Snowgrave, you force Noelle to freeze every enemy you come across, turning them to ice using Iceshock, until eventually, you get an ability called Snowgrave, which, when used, causes any enemy it's used on to be trapped in a block of ice. After Noelle uses this on Berdly, she leaves the party, and is not seen again until the very end of the chapter. Why would I bring the Snowgrave route up? Well, lets go through that description again. In Snowgrave, you force Noelle to *FREEZE* every enemy you come across, turning them to *ICE* using ICEshock, until eventually, you get an ability called Snowgrave, which, when used, causes any enemy it's used on to be trapped in *A BLOCK OF ICE*. After Noelle uses this on Berdly, she leaves the party, and is not seen again until the very end of the chapter. Noelle uses Ice Magic. Ice-E's name is *ICE-* E. *ICE-E* is a *BLOCK OF ICE.* In Snowgrave, the spell Snowgrave traps people in *BLOCKS OF ICE.* I have a feeling Ice-E will be important in some way, at least to the Weird Route. I have not slept for 7 days and I think I'm going insane.
@GeekMasterGames
@GeekMasterGames 8 күн бұрын
"Everyone and their mother has talked about leitmotifs" WHERE I HAVE NOT FOUND ANY GOOD VIDEOS ABOUT THE THEMATIC USE OF LEITMOTIF IN UNDERTALE/DELTARUNE ONLY VIDEOS SHOWING WHERE THEY OCCUR SHOW ME THE GOOD ONES
@godoatthegoat2884
@godoatthegoat2884 8 күн бұрын
I am also part of the "they kissed" gang, but something worth pointing out is that Kris doesn't let the soul go in the room no matter what in Snowgrave. I feel like the reason could be that Kris feared we would be able to start ordering Noelle around if we got access to the room like we did in the normal route. Instead Noelle got some help from Susie who convinced her everything was a nightmare.
@divinefeline28
@divinefeline28 8 күн бұрын
this is a comment on something you said in the first video, but im here at the second one to make sure you didnt address it before i got my angry youtube comment rant hat on. anyway, kris has NEVER been described as a knight; they are referred to as a "tactician", which id consider like... a fighter subclass?? the only characters who have been called knights are susie (a dark knight as a title in chapter 1 i think) and berdly (a knight in glow in the dark armor. which is probably a joke). im not arguing against kris being THE knight, but them looking LIKE a knight but never being referred to as one feels like an intentional red herring to me. youd think theyd be a lot more careful about the usage of the word knight, like "determination" in undertale, but weirdly this doesnt seem to be the case. not really sure what to make of that.
@chessegangsters
@chessegangsters 8 күн бұрын
I love your content, thank you very much for what you do!
@matti.8465
@matti.8465 9 күн бұрын
Not gonna lie, you kinda lost me with the debt thing. Have you considered that maybe the light world money could be used for something else?
@rubenssilveira5765
@rubenssilveira5765 9 күн бұрын
6:38 what if susie is related to dess disapearance and only catti (i forgot how to spell her name, the emo cat girl) knows about that?
@yellowpowr8455
@yellowpowr8455 9 күн бұрын
Congratulations: you’ve made me intrigued on the possibility of a Flowey-themed secret boss for chapter 3.
@Limetheartist
@Limetheartist 8 күн бұрын
Not only that, there is more to it (Flowey-themed boss approval, I mean) : Spring Mini-Newsletter has ... a strangely big amount of Flowey in it. At least for 'mini' - newsletter. AND there was the same flowers as in Asgore's "Flower King" flower shop. Also, there was gif of Susie holding Kris who watering Ralsei, and then flower grows on Ralsei's hat.... Could it possibly mean something...?
@yellowpowr8455
@yellowpowr8455 7 күн бұрын
@@Limetheartist I would love if every boss in Deltarune (after Jevil, I guess) ends up being a reference to someone specifically from Undertale. (Mettaton NEO, Flowey, ect.) That would be so awesome to me.
@Limetheartist
@Limetheartist 7 күн бұрын
​@@yellowpowr8455 We already have Spamton (NEO), who's a MTT (NEO :_ ) + a bit of Mad Dummy/ Mad Mew Mew specifically (this blend gives us a "former celebrity, now's disgraced and literally living in the dump guy" type of character with a certain robotic thematic). So yes, it will be great if we'll have other UT-referred bosses or secret bosses. Flowey-referred character, for example. Or maybe... Undyne-referred? Dog squad - referred? Who knows. But also let give Toby a chance to make some unique, non-UT-related bosses (like Jevil, let's say).
@yellowpowr8455
@yellowpowr8455 6 күн бұрын
@@Limetheartist Well, here's my thought process behind it: if the content of Deltarune continues to keep itself separate from Undertale, but the secret bosses going forward are nods to said game, I think that will be a nice balance. Also, I just learned that apprantly Jevil was one of the early concepts for the original form of Deltarune, so his appearance as a secret chapter boss makes sense to me as an outlier.
@genericname42
@genericname42 10 күн бұрын
That smile says, "No. Not when the soul is around".... Remember smile for the camera everyone!
@hemorrhoidjones4868
@hemorrhoidjones4868 10 күн бұрын
5:44 They fucked
@kiwipomegranate
@kiwipomegranate 10 күн бұрын
4:27 BACK TO THAT GU?
@nick_299
@nick_299 10 күн бұрын
Ok, so about the "feed the algorithm" thing. Since I first subscribed after your first video, youtube has actually been good about giving me a notification since on all your community posts. I can't speak for everyone since I know I don't have very many subscriptions, but I think your ok for the most part (maybe youtube helps out people who make posts on the community tab from week to week). All I know for sure is, I ain't missing out on more Ralsei analysis.
@MoRPho151
@MoRPho151 10 күн бұрын
I feel that Noelle blacked out when she did Snowgrave and she doesn’t remember what happened. She fears is something bad but doesn’t know. So I honestly don’t believe Susie knows something. Because she would be very very mad. Susie would confront Kris or us if she knew the truth. For me what happened in the room is that Susie enters and like in normal route she says to Noelle is a dream. That comforts Noelle and works. If you think about it makes sense. When I dream things that I really don’t want to happen and then wake up I feel so relieved and easy. I think that is the exact same sensation Noelle has. Then, since Noelle was so distressed Susie was more comforting with Noelle, perhaps even hugged her or something, and that could have made an awkward moment between the two. Not a complete confession or something like that but a little bit more than in normal route. I don’t believe they confessed and kissed like a lot of people say because at the end of Snowgrave Susie is still oblivious to Noelle liking her romantically. However, the interaction was closer than in normal route because Susie saw Noelle more distressed and she was more supportive to her. I see Susie throwing her façade easily if she sees something in distress and more if it is Noelle a person she is more positive to. That is my theory though. Susie making the exact same face when Noelle give the chalk to her is also a signal that Susie felt the same thing in the room. But she still doesn’t understand what that is.
@pentagonyx
@pentagonyx 10 күн бұрын
One thing that has been discovered recently is the original picture that made the Survey Program background. It’s an ocean.
@MisterLambda
@MisterLambda 10 күн бұрын
A guess to how we could eventually get some insight into what Ralsei is privately talking to Kris about, is that in a future chapter, when Ralsei lures away the SOUL to follow another perspective again, we’ll be able to somehow overhear them without their knowledge. Maybe whatever character we are following will reencounter them in a similar manner to how Frisk overhears Papyrus and Undyne in Undertale. - Or perhaps it could be through a live feed of some kind, which would make sense if a part of Chapter 3’s Dark World is television based. And whether this eavesdropping happens on accident, or through some telepathic coercion from our part, remains to be seen
@danielle5160
@danielle5160 10 күн бұрын
I think that Noelle was upset/depressed and Susie comforted her, but didn't learn the details of what exactly happened. When you confront Queen right after this, Susie says that "Noelle needs to wake up", indicating that Susie's takeaway was that the Dark World was what was making Noelle so unhappy, at least in some way. Queen also states that Noelle is "in no state to be my Knight" in this scene, supporting the idea that Noelle was in a poor state of mind prior to her interaction with Susie. Susie deciding to go back and check on Noelle while Kris seals to fountain also supports this. While it seems that Noelle was still upset, I don't think she really starts processing what happened until the hospital scene in the Light World. Susie shows no indication that she even suspects that Kris had anything to do with Noelle's condition at any point, and I don't think she's the kind of person who could or would hide something like that for the entire rest of the chapter. After the fountain is sealed, Noelle doesn't seem to be in a bad mood at all. It seems like whatever Susie did was very effective at comforting her. A lot of people have been suggesting that Noelle and Susie kissed or Noelle confessed her feelings, but I don't think that's the case. It definitely seems like the conversation became somewhat romantic, but I don't think it was much more so than the Ferris Wheel scene from the normal route. The main reason is that, at the end of the hospital scene, Susie says that Rudy was telling her about things that are obviously tips for dates with Noelle, but Susie diesn't understand why he's telling her them. That checks out if Susie is still somewhat oblivious to / in denial of the fact that Noelle has a crush on her, but I think Susie would understand what's going on if Noelle outright confessed or kissed her. She's not THAT dumb. I don't think they went further than, like, maybe a hug or some moderate cuddling. Sorry if this is a bit disorganized or rambly, I typed it out on my phone and I can't properly perfect my video comment essays in these conditions.
@meganmaaooo
@meganmaaooo 10 күн бұрын
Didn't mention this in my last comment, but loving the humour too! Aaa I'm both excited for Deltarune and to hear your thoughts on it!
@meganmaaooo
@meganmaaooo 10 күн бұрын
I don't know enough about the lore of deltarune to agree or disagree with your stance on the matter - but I'm loving the narrative style, scriptwriting, and editing of your videos! Hence, the subscription - looking forward to hearing your thoughts when more content on the game releases. :)
@Videospiel-Man5730
@Videospiel-Man5730 10 күн бұрын
You know what i think... Noelle and susie... did the thing ya know! Not only is susie flustered enough time passed that ralsei sleeps and she specifically doesnt want to tell the innocent ralsei what happend!
@lukettc1069
@lukettc1069 10 күн бұрын
you might be the first person i've ever seen beat it