I like how they show a father’s influence too after they’ve died. Vi still imagines Vander giving her advise and telling her to get up and get fighting again; Jinx fulfilling Silco’s pledge to “…show them all”, “…let them all Burn!”; Caitlyn’s dad with no name encouraging her to do doing “…what was right”; Benzo “… never walk away” from fighting the bad guy also had an influence on Ekko.

I think Silco’s whole motivation for Zaun’s independence went from respect to “for my daughter”. everything he wanted on the silver plate. All he had to do is give up one person. To End the Oppression of Hundreds of starving People in the Undercity. Yet Powder was the end to that, because just like Vander, he offered to go to StillWater instead of Jinx. That was not going to be acceptable to Jayce,still Silco would rather watch the world burn than give Jinx up where she can’t enjoy Zaun’s new found freedom. Silco finally understood his brother after who knows how many years, better late than never. Silco so reminds me of how my Father used to be, but something changed he had completely changed for the better. Silco’s do anything to achieve philosophy shattered because of Jinx. He would even look vulnerable in front of his men.Seeing Jinx on the verge of death.

I think that's exactly what Cortana is trying to say in the opening. Because she's an AI so she knows he's not cosmically/divinely lucky in any way. I see her using the term 'luck' as basically saying that in spite of all of her research and analysis, which was surely very robust. She saw something unquantifiable in him. A better way to put it may have been his instincts, but I kind of like her using the word luck. Even her being an AI she couldn't exactly quantify how he was able to succeed when others would fail. And yeah it also is definitely tongue in cheek as well. You're right on with that.

If you’ve read the entire series more than once and watched the show - you’re a mega fan

Just watch3d where uno died. I'm watching just to see but suck it writers and amazon for destroying a beautiful world with your horrible inexcusable version of this. He 2as in ALL the books. You fail amazon. Balefire cast on this mess couldn't save it

_Game of Thrones_ said it was a good idea! Look at HALO 😏- _shudder_ - It's best to not even watch them, not even for morbid curiosity. They're going to suck. Always.

What I find interesting about Caitlyn's parents is the exchange of roles between her mother and father

It was ruined by the opening, men are arrogant and destroyed the world in their arrogance comment. Umm, yeah, that's not what happened... They did destroy the world, but not through any arrogance, it was because the men and woman didn't work together. Kinda the woman's fault really....

Lol

If you have nothing but contempt for the source material and the fans who have loved it for generations, your adaptation is going to fail. Just ask the show runners for The Witcher and Rings of Power...

I find it weird. Yes, the Dark One was able to fuck with mens' magic because of their arrogance, but the whole point was not because men are inherently arrogant, but because they decided they no longer needed to work together. One of Jordan's biggest, least subtle messages is how only by men and women working together can the world truly become better. One of my favorite conversations was between Egwene and Moiraine, when Moiraine defended saidin users, saying they were ill, not inherently evil.

I finally watched it and man it was so much worse than i ever imagined.

In retrospect, how do you feel Season 2 addressed the issues from Season 1? What was your reaction to S2?

Its not that bad

Rafe’s big bright woke ideas butchered a great franchise that WAS a sure money bet, before he ‘fixed’ it to death. Amazon deserves to lose a fortune and Rafe deserves to have his name used only as a warning label for crap moving forward.

Why are we dancing around the real issues here? There wasn't a failure of the writers or the pacing. They accomplished exactly what they wanted to accomplish. To force a woke ideology on a story that didn't have one. They broke or removed whatever stood in their way and they put in garbage to prop their ideology to fill the vast voids.

Impossible to make such a series with today's "woke" media mafia. I have no problem with the representation of different races. If a character is fictional, who cares what colour their skin is? Besides Jordan quite obviously meant for several different races and cultures to be in his books. And what's with all the hyper-sexuality? It was a great story without all that! Are they trying to turn it into GOT? I barely stomached the first season, watched one episode of the second season and then gave up.

It's very true that children need their parents, dad's too. This show showed me what my family could have been in various ways and I found a new topic to discuss with my therapist. The things I wished my family could have been. I see those small things in every parent/child relationship in the show. And the show also showed that even with a good steady parental figure, things can still go wrong or mess you up depending on your environment. It's beautiful and painful.

The show is trash and i can't watch more than 5 minutes without almost dying of cringe. What particularly annoyed me was the burning out in a circle thing, in the books this is impossible as the people in the circle are buffered from it

So true. Thank you

Finally, I have heard someones who has been able to put to words how I feel. Not so somany of the others who have found this series so underwhelming

If you didn't read the books, then you'd be totally lost.

Did you watch season 2? :(

This season really incapsulated everything wrong with modern adaptions. Not only did they change surface things for "modern audiences" (which can at least be put aside if the story is still good) BUT they actually changed the story for it, which is unforgiveable. I did not read the books but know of the plot and this show basically wore its agenda on its sleeve that women were good and should do every good thing in the plot, and men were all evil or dumb. That is not The Wheel of Time, at all. What is more egregious is the actual story already had more than enough female characters doing awesome things and were strong, and that somehow was not enough for them. That is truly astounding. As a non-book reader, even I could see something was very off about five untrained women destroying a large evil army where others also have pointed out, logistically made no sense. (so all the army died for ? reason? Why was the city even preparing for battle if five women could do this?). The power displayed was clearly meant for the dragon, anyone could see that. But that would mean an icky guy (who is only the most important character in the whole story) would be seen as doing something awesome. And the rest of your criticism is also 100% on. The bottle episodes about nothing the lack of development for characters not named Morraine, it was all just terrible. The flashback to 3000 years before showing a perfect Eden was basically saying that this dude just torched the world because he was an idiot. It was very insulting.

Extraordinary bad failure. They turned it into a feminist joke. All the leading male characters suck. They Are nothing like their characters in the books. Even the female characters are being warped. This guy has an agenda and he’s fucking it up

Stupidest thing was racial divercity in isolated village...that village seemed like modern New York. American shows have big budgets, but small woke minds. Lots of money down the drain

Fucking destroyed it. I came in with a huge open mind and was absolutely heart broken. The heart and sole of the story are lost. He killed it.

yup, just modern politics of it all downplay all the male to make the women better which shows their projection that they can't compete unless they cripple the male's worth, changing the lore to only male bad is just a sexist bigoted mindset these higher ups have woes to the brand, it dead for any general audience

The father characters in Arcane are undoubtedly very well-written. And I too adore parental characters, especially the ones that appear grouchy on the outside but are softies on the inside. However, father characters almost always have good representation. I can find all sorts of father characters in media, be it abusive/manipulative fathers, complex and morally grey but still caring fathers, to goofy yet wholesome and supportive fathers. But the only treatment for mothers I have seen is to die, be dead, or be evil. We still haven't broken free of the 'dead mother' trope that is so prevalent in nearly all media across all film industries in the globe. It is a rare piece of media to have a well-written, compelling, flawed yet loving mother, and even then the audience hounds on her flaws more. For a society that claims that fathers are treated as secondary parents, it's amusing how decent fathers are treated like celebrities, that too by women, while mothers who break their backs to provide and are burdened with most of the childcare are not given the same level of praise or attention, except for superficial praise that doesn't help much, but is used by bigots to "justify" how mothers are more respected.

Spectacle vs Character driven Adventure is an argument at least as old as George Lucas vs. Gary Kurtz. Thats why we got a new death star + space battle + ewoks instead of something more like Empire strikes back. The argument that this is not for fans of the books but non-readers or people who have read it a long time ago and have forgotten is not true. I read this book in the middle 90s and I would have loved something that reminded me of the book instead of something that has the character interaction of a low level reality show, with the bad guys making it obvious from the first scene, what took me years of reading to unravel.

Didnt see it, wont see it because it seems the causes of the failure are very similar to those of the witcher: zero respect for the material source and political agenda: ultra-feminism (when the story should have been men+women alliance to win), ridiculous diversity that makes the set up of the story hard to follow (every settlement looks the same and more diverse than today's central Paris!). Thanks for your video, you saved me a lot if time!

When wokeness is the goal, the story will always suffer

I read some of the books and enjoyed them. However, I did not enjoy this Amazon version of WoT. I feel like it was rushed, not well put together, and tried to make it like GoT. It was soo bad and left me with soo many questions, why they even tried to make a tv series to begin with. It left me confused, including how they visualized the Blight being less scary looking like a forest from Snow White. Might as well add in sleeping beauty into it as well. They should of discontinued it, we now know who the Dragon is and he didn't much anyways so Season 1 ended...

He’s Spider-Man with a wizard staff

mf really watched a queer show just to come at us saying kids needs both mother and father. no, they just need stable adults around them, thats all. enough with heteronormativity, we know most cishet fathers are abusive pricks anyway.

BOOOO!!!!! LOL

I literally watched for a few minutes (maybe 5 minutes at most) saw Lan, noted that they had made him an Asian, and turned it off. Once I see the race swapping I know it will be woke trash. It will be all men=bad+weak, all women=good+strong all white/straight people changed to minorities and gay people. In other words, it's pure trash and not worth watching.

Jordan wrote a story about the importance of having equality between men and women, working together and respecting gender differences. Judkins wrote a story about how women are perfect, powerful and infinitely better than men, and how men need to be belittled, demeaned and controlled. Not only does the series not deserve the name "wheel of time", but the philosophy it's peddling is actively toxic and harmful! My lady; who really is a massive WoT superfan, and I looked forward to the series, and really wanted to like it, but honestly watching each episode became a weekly torture, and we have no desire to go back for season 2. We both hope the series gets cancelled at this point.

Thank you for doing this video. More people need to understand the more detailed issues woth the show, not just that it is bad. The beautiful balance between men and women is taken away in the first monologue. Jordan would be turning in his grave.

Just found this series on a non Amazon channel. I thought the TV adaptation of the Sword of Truth series was bad due to the way they departed from the books. This series was far, far worse. My assessment is the writers skim read all the books in about an hour, and then created a brand new story from the bits the could remember. Or maybe they tore all the pages out of the book, cut the pages into pieces, tossed them into the air, and created a new story from the contents of a few dozen pieces of the text. The only way anyone could possibly enjoy this series is if they had never read the books. There is one phrase that I thinks sums up this series nicely - FUBAR. At least the locations they chose for the show were often beautiful. . .

i think you are confusing "respect" with "Killing them off to empower women because men are weak and need to die"

While it is true that parenthood commonly changes one's perspective, I'm annoyed at the constant suggestion that people without children are selfish and don't realize that the world isn't about them. Some of the most prominent humanitarians didn't have children.

Don't forget the Big Gaudy rings. Never thought of the serpent rings would look like cheap costume jewelry

I was excited for the series as a great fan of the books. My daughter, who did not read the books, watched with me to see why I loved the books so much. I was not only disappointed, I was outraged at the travesty that unfolded. My daughter was confused because there was no way to understand the who and the why of what was going on and from what I watched she never would. So much character assassination not to mention the plot assassinations. The only way to watch this is to think of it as the third age come around again and our favorite characters existing but living new lives doing things differently and even dying off before you even know who they are and why they were in the story in the first place. So sorry that they let someone who was not immersed in the complete story handle this epic tale; no substance, no point, just visual fluff.

This show was terrible. The characters were not developed. This was one of the biggest issues. They were trying to hide Rand for most the season, so we never got crucial parts of his backstory until the end, when they should have been there from the start to help us care about the character. Perrin's wife was just dumb; there is enough going on with him in the early books, we didn't need some throw away wife character that never existed in the books. They never got around to really introducing the wolves. Yes, we see them. Yes, they kind of hang around and help him. But we never meet Hopper, and as a result the whole "prison break" from the Whitecloaks scene was stupid. Perrin has no reason to really hate the Whitecloaks other than because they're Whitecloaks, and they have no reason to hunt Perrin, other than because he was with Egwene and had yellow eyes for a second. It was stupid. Mat... I mean, they lost the actor half way through, that wasn't their fault. But even still, Mat is a fun character pre-dagger, always playing pranks and joking around. They turned him into this depressing thief who steals from even his friends. The girls were written to be "amazing", but IMO they got done dirty too. The sex was dumb. The 2 Rivers is a conservative backwater where if you slept with a girl one time and people found out, her entire extended family would show up with torches and pitchforks to make you marry her that night. Instead, we get Rand and Egwene having sex. Nynaeve and Lan having sex. The problem is, that when you make everyone have the same attitudes, no one stands out. The Aiel have a completely different outlook on sex, so when Rand meets them in the books, there's a huge culture shock. Lan and Nynaeve should have been a slow burn story; that would have been closer to the books, but also more interesting for readers. A "will they/won't they" type thing with him being stoic and stubborn, and her being annoying and stubborn. Just like the books. The world felt generic. They also didn't explain the magic system. They never gave us the prologue. They changed vital parts of the lore by saying the Dragon could be a woman. If only the men go mad, but the Dragon can be a woman, then why be afraid of her? The whole point is that the promised saviour is also destined to go crazy and destroy the very world he's trying to save. That's what makes the promised one narrative from tWoT different and more interesting than many others. The CGI was pretty bad. The final battle was terrible. Their tactics were non-existant. Like you mentioned, if 5 untrained people can destroy the biggest army of Trollocs seen in generations, why not just send 13 Aes Sedai to the Blight? Form a circle, maybe bring a bunch of angrael and sa'angrael, and just level the place to the ground. Destroy every Fade and Trolloc in the entire Blight. I mean, why not? If 5 untrained people can do all that, imagine 13 trained sisters, all linked and using angrael. I could go on forever about how terrible it was. But TLDR; I agree with everything you said in this video and 1000 other problems on top. It was awful.

Definitely not Robert Jordan's story. Judkins was more interested in using the show as a platform to display his world view.

Amazon played the identity politics in a TV series? No way! Glad I skipped this garbage.

what is the music at the beginning of the video?

I wonder what expertise you have i movies and visual story telling. I believe it was far from perfect. I dont agree with all of the decisions made. But it sounds to me like you have a private agenda. Just the number of views demonstrate that the show was far from a dismal failure.

I came here for the comments - I cant even bring myself to watch this video, despite having little doubt I'll agree with every sentiment. These books got me through such a dark period in my life, I'm honestly afraid this travesty will ruin rereading the greatest epic fantasy ever written - built on the world of the greatest fantasy ever written. The build up to its release and theatrical trailers filled me with such disappointment. I still struggle to get the face of the actor they chose for Rand out of my head. Glad the true fans reflect the same feelings. And on a sardonic last note: Moiraine shouldn't look like she needs a walking stick to get across a room :D