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@tri-statedualsport4880
@tri-statedualsport4880 8 ай бұрын
I have the exact problem with mine, only it’s the compression side.
@paologiuffredi8403
@paologiuffredi8403 10 ай бұрын
nice review... just a question... what about the oil injection installed on this model? Is it reliable?
@strifex-suspension-works
@strifex-suspension-works Жыл бұрын
Delta shims on the rebound side of the piston compared to regular (circular) shims allow more oil flow to the compression side of the piston (mid valve) providing more efectivness to that circuiot which can be tunned via the mid-speed shim stack. By swapping out to the regular shims you've effectively decreased the effectivness of this compression flow circuit and thus increased the proportion of the damping control put on the bleed orifice you control with your rebound clicker setting. In addition, you've slightly increased the damping of the rebound stack as regular shims are indeed a little bit stiffer than the delta shims due to more material in the shim. In your case, I speculate, the change is not as dramatic as to reduce the efectivness of that circuit to such a degree that it might cause cavitation due to vacuum on the other side of the rebound/mid piston (if not enough oil flows to that side to keep the pressure belove that of boiling point). So if you like how the fork feels now, glad it worked out for you. Just keep in mind that you've stiffened up damping so, if you'll want the same speed of damping as previously, you'll need to open up your clicker slightly more. Another thing to consider is that you've most likely changed the ratio of compression/rebound damping in that fork leg now, as this modification has probably influenced the behavior of the compression stroke more than the rebound.
@utahdesertrider1806
@utahdesertrider1806 Жыл бұрын
Love my 23 Beta 300 re. I have a few vids on it. Great review. I love the raw feel of beta. As opposed to the ultra smooth kTM.
@claptinfan
@claptinfan Жыл бұрын
I am really on the fence between the rr and race edition. I do mostly trail enduro style riding but enjoy competing in desert races and winter rides. Will I be happy the open fork suspension? What are your thoughts?
@simmonds825
@simmonds825 Жыл бұрын
Love the review mate :D, will you be racing Kozzie Killer this year?
@hungrychinp
@hungrychinp Жыл бұрын
Hey buddy, sorry for the late reply. Not sure on the grassroots this year hey...definitely going to be riding more just not selling body parts for a few hours of riding!
@aussiemotodad7966
@aussiemotodad7966 Жыл бұрын
I have 46 hrs on a 22 300rr so far the bad doesn't out weigh the good . Best bike out of the box
@hungrychinp
@hungrychinp Жыл бұрын
Haha for sure!
@ogasi1798
@ogasi1798 Жыл бұрын
buy a road bicycle if a seat is too hard - do 50 mile every 2nd day, preferably more if you have time/are fit enough, you will soon be sweet
@hungrychinp
@hungrychinp Жыл бұрын
Not a chance I'm getting a pushy, also for $200 I can just get a softer foam...
@onthethrottle7104
@onthethrottle7104 Жыл бұрын
To say the Nissin brakes are "far far better" than Brembo is just insane. To say you like the Nissin brakes better would be more believable.
@hungrychinp
@hungrychinp Жыл бұрын
Meh, I'm many many hours on the Nissin now and I'm sticking to my guns...top shelf stuff!
@arunvichetroth9391
@arunvichetroth9391 Жыл бұрын
Any season you choose 300rr instead of race edition?
@hungrychinp
@hungrychinp Жыл бұрын
Price was one reason, I also wanted a soft stock suspension and I'd been told by some testers that the racing was a little too aggressive for the terrain I ride in. So far I've been super happy but would probably grab the racing when I upgrade
@davehoward4581
@davehoward4581 Жыл бұрын
Nice review and follow up vid! I’ve got the 23 300rr and I’m finding the same with having to switch back to first on some of the steep hills (to be fair I’m on the rain map in the snotty stuff). How did you go with changing the front to a 13 tooth? Happy with it?
@hungrychinp
@hungrychinp Жыл бұрын
Great question, I should do a bit of an in depth on gearing and the maps because I've been mixing it up a ton. So my gearing is currently 12/48 and I try to stick to the sunny map even for the snotty stuff. The rain map is good for really really bad mud/clay when you probably need the power curve a little reduced.
@bergoff
@bergoff Жыл бұрын
“Spend time in prison”!!!!
@czechyalater_
@czechyalater_ Жыл бұрын
Love the video bro! Big changes for me this year! Beta rr300 racing coming up :D
@hungrychinp
@hungrychinp Жыл бұрын
Good stuff bro, I've been following your Beta journey. Super cool stuff. Next time I'm up QLD way I'll hit you up
@czechyalater_
@czechyalater_ Жыл бұрын
@@hungrychinp cheers legend!
@Superdisco199
@Superdisco199 Жыл бұрын
Good vid. QLD'er ? My bum hurts looking at the beta's lol.
@hungrychinp
@hungrychinp Жыл бұрын
Haha yeah they give you a pounding! Born Qld, surviving in ACT now.
@youtubeadministrator4022
@youtubeadministrator4022 Жыл бұрын
Looks like a KTM
@VincentAmbrosioSalad
@VincentAmbrosioSalad Жыл бұрын
Beta did start with a KTM engine😂
@youtubeadministrator4022
@youtubeadministrator4022 Жыл бұрын
I want one.
@bradaltergott2786
@bradaltergott2786 Жыл бұрын
Motul 660 Brake Fluid, Engine ICE Coolant, Seat Concepts Seat
@hungrychinp
@hungrychinp Жыл бұрын
I’m with until seat covers, onegripper blows the rest out of the water!
@bradjennion4602
@bradjennion4602 Жыл бұрын
Nice review ,keep them comming.waiting on my race edition 23.comming off a 21ktm 300, 1st beta and only ride technical singles ,not sure if I should of gone the rr now ,but I think both bikes are the same low to mid range,and I'm hoping the suspension works well for hard enduro
@hungrychinp
@hungrychinp Жыл бұрын
Yeah keep us posted, I’m interested how much tinkering you’ll need to do on the racing model to make it suitable for the hard stuff
@Bosko1000RR
@Bosko1000RR Жыл бұрын
Nice rewiev. Can you tell something about fuel consum compare to tpi? Someone said that beta consum much more fuel than tpi, so is that true? ( I mean in normal oem carb setup)...
@hungrychinp
@hungrychinp Жыл бұрын
So many people have asked me this, I’m going to have to spend some big days on the bike to figure this out. So far it’s been just as good as the tpi…but every time you drop the bike fuel leaks. My gut tells me if you did classic enduro there’s no difference but if you did hard enduro you’re going to lose more fuel not because of consumption but from leaking out the carb when you drop/roll/crash the bike!
@hungrychinp
@hungrychinp Жыл бұрын
@Enduro Brendan awesome thanks for the feedback! I’ve been told that the difference in jetting performance will be very minor so if you’re not a pro it’s probably not going to bother but i have no evidence for this. I’m actually looking into the smart carb as my next mod which would mean no more messing around with jetting. If you’re happy on a tpi there’s no reason to just sell up and go a beta.
@hungrychinp
@hungrychinp Жыл бұрын
Exactly why I swapped from KTM. My 2020 300 had two bottom end rebuilds, 3 top ends, 7 CCPs, fuel pump, oil pump, and just about every other issue…I would spend my entire time worrying I was going to get stranded out in the bush with a 100kg weight. But on the flip side I’ve had mates put 200+ hrs on with no issues an one top end haha.
@hungrychinp
@hungrychinp Жыл бұрын
I’m 50/50 for Kozi, new grassroots pricing is a little rough. I’m optimistic about the GNCC thats coming here. Might try for the Tumut Transmoto and considering some local mx clubman races here in the ACT.
@matthewkantola8638
@matthewkantola8638 Жыл бұрын
Nice review, I just purchased a 2023 300 RR. I also dimpled my radiators for more clearance. Seems like an engineering miss on Beta's part. Hopefully they will move them back a bit in the future. I just ordered an Enduro Engineering seat, installed a better poly skid plate and some Renthal soft 1/2 waffle grips. also installed full wrap EE hangars. I weigh 175 lbs, do you think I will need to change out the fork and shock springs? I ride mostly in 2nd and 3rd gear, forest single track. Keep us posted on your progress!
@hungrychinp
@hungrychinp Жыл бұрын
Legend! You’ll be completely fine on stock, but if you are training and competing and take your riding pretty serious you’ll want to go up a spring rate especially if you add 15lbs of gear on. Do you use stock gearing (14/48)? I’ve dropped down to 12/48 to see how that goes…
@TheKitchenTechnician
@TheKitchenTechnician Жыл бұрын
Nice review dude! I like the balance of riding and talking. A lot of videos are just hopelessly lacking in information and just have someone riding for fifteen minutes!? Looking forward to hearing more about your long term experiences with this beautiful Italian girl! Her twin sister the factory edition is on my list for spring. Got my deposit down. Cheers, from North Eastern Ontario Canada. Great riding up here with thousands and thousands of sq/km of Crown land.
@hungrychinp
@hungrychinp Жыл бұрын
Cheers for the comment legend, I’ve seen some stuff you guys are doing in Canada and it’s mint! Might be a little cold for me though…I’m planning on a couple more videos on mods and the mid term review. From everything I hear about the 23 race edition I think it’s going to be a mad bike!
@bradaltergott2786
@bradaltergott2786 Жыл бұрын
Agree on the seat, on/off switch but i do like the map up on the bar. These bikes are amazing waiting on the 23 300race
@hungrychinp
@hungrychinp Жыл бұрын
What type of riding do you do? Race is pretty aggressive for the hard enduro...I think J Walker down specs his Race for the hard stuff - low comp head, different jetting and sprockets
@bayky
@bayky Жыл бұрын
KZbin @bayky
@bayky
@bayky Жыл бұрын
Can I take it and translate to Ukrainian language and publish it on the my account?
@hungrychinp
@hungrychinp Жыл бұрын
Yes go for it!
@bayky
@bayky Жыл бұрын
Hi! I ve seen you video on KZbin about beta rr300. It real good! I would say outstanding
@hungrychinp
@hungrychinp Жыл бұрын
Glad you like it!
@brentv7299
@brentv7299 Жыл бұрын
That was a great review and thank you for all of the (objective) information. I'm 99% sure this is my next bike. SUBSCRIBED!
@hungrychinp
@hungrychinp Жыл бұрын
Legend, thanks very much! I'm planning to get an updated review at 20h to see how the bike has held up.
@lostinpa-dadenduro7555
@lostinpa-dadenduro7555 Жыл бұрын
I had an Xtrainer for 3 years with the Nissin brakes and now a GasGas EC300 with the Braketec. The Braketecs have a much softer feel as they come on. Total braking power seems just as good but you’ll need to pull the lever in or push the pedal down further to get to full braking. Especially the front brake. I think the Braketec setup is probably friendlier for learning, and I do like the rear brake feel a lot, but I’m thinking of putting the Brembo on the front.
@hungrychinp
@hungrychinp Жыл бұрын
Great feedback, I have a few mates on current gasgas and they don't seem to mind braketec. I guess it really depends on what style of riding.
@freetaylor72
@freetaylor72 Жыл бұрын
Dude you can lug these bike around in 3rd gear all day, excellent balance, replacement parts are pricey, but I love mine... my first real dirt bike, also the clutch is soooo smooth....
@hungrychinp
@hungrychinp Жыл бұрын
Oh for sure, when you say pricey replacement parts is that compared to say a KTM bike? I haven't had to buy any parts yet but I looked through the online webstore and found prices were pretty similar to ktm...at least in Australia...
@freetaylor72
@freetaylor72 Жыл бұрын
@@hungrychinp i don't have one of the new ktm bikes, mine is a 01 200 mxc, but I was referring to the Japanese bikes.. my beta fell over in the trailer and messed up the throttle hand grip and the new beta hand grips was 45 plus shipping. It is what it is.... I've had this little 200 beta in some tight trails in East Texas and it done very well, I haven't heard anything negative about beta.
@hungrychinp
@hungrychinp Жыл бұрын
@@freetaylor72 oh true, I threw those things out day 1 haha. I threw a billet throttle tube on and run $15 grips. I've heard good things about the 200 betas, never ridden one but they're popular.
@freetaylor72
@freetaylor72 Жыл бұрын
Hey you was talking about stock jetting, I got a 23 200rr and it's spitting 2t oil out of the exhaust coupling at higher speeds. Have you had anything like that? Seems to me that the bike is running rich
@hungrychinp
@hungrychinp Жыл бұрын
No I'm only 6-7h in now and I haven't had any oil coming out my exhaust. I wouldn't be surprised if the bike is a little rich, I know my dealer jets the bike before sale which also includes a different needle but this is all provided for by Beta. Maybe worth asking your dealer. I'll let you know if there is a change after I run the bike on an MX track.
@mxengineer1
@mxengineer1 Жыл бұрын
Great review! Seems like Beta has really sorted the '23 300RR. So coming off a KTM 300TPI bike I am curious about your feelings about the engine vibration level - KTM really set the bar with the counterbalanced 250/300's from 2017 on. How does the vibration of your '23 300 Beta compare? You said the engine is perfection yet in the comments you are considering a Smart carb - is there another reason you want a SC besides post crash bogging fix? Be curious if you get a chance to ride a '23 KTM 300XC TBI and compare engines - the electronic PV with EFI really changes the character of that engine with the push of a map switch. Looking forward to more of your videos!
@hungrychinp
@hungrychinp Жыл бұрын
Its a great point and something I'm going to talk about in the next vid. KTM/Gasgas/Husky have nailed engine vibration...Beta have counterbalanced but there is still a lot of vibration. I don't even notice the vibration after 1min into riding. I also haven't got arm pump at all on the Beta but I used to get mad arm pump on my KTM 2020 300 tpi. My un-scientific theory is that a little vibration helps distal perfusion of my arms which reduces arm pump. I haven't ridden the TBI yet however the best engine I've tried was a 2022 EC300 tpi (Gasgas) which has a twostrokeperformance low compression head, ECU flash, and injector relocation kit as well as the oil delete kit. Incredibly smooth engine, impossible to stall, chugs up everything. Great engine but I still prefer the snap of the Beta in comparison. I'll tinker with everything which is why I'll probably end up trying a smart carb but thats going to be far in the future. All I'll be interested in is if I can minimise the post crash bog from too much fuel getting into the engine. Not much jetting can do to help this and I doubt the smartcarb will have a huge difference either. Love the questions, now I have lots to go test! Legend
@mxengineer1
@mxengineer1 Жыл бұрын
@@hungrychinp Thanks for the detailed response! Interesting thought about vibration reducing arm pump - perhaps the stock KTM Neken handlebars were too stiff or simply AER forks transmitting too much energy into your arms? The '23 300 TBI engine sets a new bar for 2-stroke engine performance in my book. The throttle body EFI combined with electronic power valve makes the partial throttle torque response very strong and quick yet linear and amazingly controllable. From lugging in 1st gear at zero RPM to 4th gear braps over tabletop jumps to 60 mph wheelies in 6th gear and no jetting required...hope you get to ride a 300 TBI soon;) kzbin.info/www/bejne/jH2Yf4OOma2VoMU
@hungrychinp
@hungrychinp Жыл бұрын
Great feedback thanks mate! I'm not someone stuck in my ways with old technology so I really hope TBI is as exceptional as the reviews have it out to be. Having said that it is annoying not being able to MAP your own bike and relying on so much electronics. We will eventually get to a point where you have to pay a subscription to your ECU software updates and engine MAP'ing.
@mxengineer1
@mxengineer1 Жыл бұрын
@@hungrychinp Like you (and being an engineer) I enjoy tinkering with EFI mapping (the Yamaha GYTR phone app is fun, myKTM connectivity unit works too). Having said that I have to admit KTM did a pretty good job out of the box with the 300 TBI maps. Map 1 is while fast has a smooth and tick slower power build and about 2 less peak HP. Map 2 builds power more quickly (yet still controllable) and pulls longer up top. I've got about 14 hours on my 23 300XC so far in various conditions and have to admit I have no specific things I would want to change between the (2) maps though I hope KTM brings back the myKTM connectivity unit so I can try some different mapping.
@DMC-179
@DMC-179 Жыл бұрын
Nice bike! I don´t like the screws, plastics and wiring compared to gasgas (or ktm, husky). If you choose the racing version, you have to mix your gas by yourself.. don´t like this. Would´nt choose the normal version in my weight class between 90 and 100 kg. The other thing about the suspension: The kyb is one of the best suspension today. Like the ergonomics on the beta better. The bike feels like it´s smaller and the standing position is better by standard, without any changes on the pedals. Enginewise the RR is simply better than a stock gg, ktm, hsq. I´ve had to take some more money to fix that on my gasgas. (Coober ECU/Head) Moneywise it doesnt matter. Here in Germany the gasgas, ktm and husqvarna bikes are more stable in pricing if you want to sell it. I like both and both bikes have advantages and disadvantages. had some issues with my xtrainer from 19, thats why i´ve chosen the gasgas.
@hungrychinp
@hungrychinp Жыл бұрын
Gasgas is an excellent bike and reasonably priced. I found my beta has better quality bolts than ktm but I don’t like their wiring as much. The racing version is just a little too much aggression for the hard enduro - although I’m sure you could tune it down. If you are still running the gasgas you should look into the twostrokeperformance injector relocation kit. Best mod you can do to a tpi
@DMC-179
@DMC-179 Жыл бұрын
@@hungrychinp I thought theres no difference about the motor between racing and normal RR. Injector relocation kit - Did you try it? Whats the differences you’ve noticed?
@hungrychinp
@hungrychinp Жыл бұрын
@@DMC-179 no there's actually massive differences between the Racing and RR. They have a different powervalve, different compression head and there is a bunch of machining done on the engine to make it more aggressive. As with the injector relocation kit...its honestly one of the single best upgrades you can do to the tpi. The power is smooth and somehow the bike doesn't want to stall. I have three mates that all have the relocation kit (ktm, husky and gasgas) and they all say the same thing!
@HalfHourOfPower
@HalfHourOfPower Жыл бұрын
Standard gearing is 14:48
@hungrychinp
@hungrychinp Жыл бұрын
Interesting, mine came 13:48 from the dealership
@HalfHourOfPower
@HalfHourOfPower Жыл бұрын
@@hungrychinp I will check mine again tomorrow 😂
@cy730415
@cy730415 Жыл бұрын
hi~~
@hungrychinp
@hungrychinp Жыл бұрын
sup buddy
@thatfast3002
@thatfast3002 Жыл бұрын
Better brakes than the brembo huh 🤔
@hungrychinp
@hungrychinp Жыл бұрын
I'm still standing by my claim, I had initially been so concerned about the Nissin I was looking for 2nd hand brembos I could replace them with...then I actually put some time on the bike and was shocked how good they are.
@thatfast3002
@thatfast3002 Жыл бұрын
@@hungrychinp could be the pads and rotors or how the lever is adjusted too. Nissan is good but I'll stay with my brembos lol
@hungrychinp
@hungrychinp Жыл бұрын
@@thatfast3002 you do you buddy, I'm going to put the nissin through the ringer at the MX track and see how they hold up
@hungrychinp
@hungrychinp Жыл бұрын
Just put some high speed braking time on the Nissin and I would say the Brembo may have a edge above Nissin. The Nissin help up fine, didn't lock up or boil over (yet) but I found the brake fluid expanded more in the front brake and would create almost like a pulsating feeling in the lever...more testing to be done!
@thatfast3002
@thatfast3002 Жыл бұрын
@@hungrychinp I was going to comment here after last Sundays ride. We had a 08 KTM 250xc, 2019 250XC, 22 husky 300TC, 2023 300xc, 22 250XC, and a 2022 beta 300 not the RR model. The only bike to have an issue was the beta which lost rear brake pressure lol
@trials_bike-xu3xf
@trials_bike-xu3xf Жыл бұрын
I am saving my money to get myself the 2023 beta 300 rr. I am very much looking forward to it. Especially coming off a 2002 ktm 300. Gonna be a huge improvement for me
@hungrychinp
@hungrychinp Жыл бұрын
oh yeah man coming from a 2002 to a 2023 beta is going to be night and day different! Let me know what you think of the transition and if you have any neat tricks to riding carby bikes!
@matthewkantola8638
@matthewkantola8638 2 жыл бұрын
Just bought the same bike last week, Love it so far!
@hungrychinp
@hungrychinp 2 жыл бұрын
Great choice, are you planning on doing any mods to it or just run it stock?
@mwzimmer
@mwzimmer 2 жыл бұрын
The motors are magical.... Great Bike!
@hungrychinp
@hungrychinp 2 жыл бұрын
Any recommendations for upgrades/mods? I’m looking at the smart carb to reduce some of the ‘post crash bogging’
@mwzimmer
@mwzimmer Жыл бұрын
The mods I've done are BRP hand gaurd mounts Mfg Part# BMI-9254 . AXP skid plate, Boano shark fin PDPBB1013, Bullet Proof rad gaurds. I recently purchased a Fmf factory fatty & 2.1 sparkaresstor but I honestly don't expect much if any gains. My bike is a 22 Race edition which has a different head if you look up the part#. I know there's been talk about carb float adjustment and running longer breather hoses etc. I've only crashed a few times and haven't noticed anything unusual with the bike loading up etc. I've honestly only had to turn my idle up a pinch and that's it....bike runs excellent even at 40-1 using motul 800 prefixing gas.
@hungrychinp
@hungrychinp Жыл бұрын
@@mwzimmer oh awesome info thanks mate! I’m going to have to figure something out for the carb, maybe some tinkering.
@captainamerica9353
@captainamerica9353 2 жыл бұрын
I get to be first to comment? Well, I like Beta's, have a 2022 XT. Beautiful scenery and filming, plus outstanding riding!
@hungrychinp
@hungrychinp 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers mate! Would prefer to just ride instead of talk haha
@tacticalstrategist3842
@tacticalstrategist3842 2 жыл бұрын
Are you sponsored by Arc’teryx? 😂
@thai.garagemotorcycles2765
@thai.garagemotorcycles2765 2 жыл бұрын
Hello. Thanks for the video. Can you tell me how long are the suspension I mean from the top to the bottom.
@hungrychinp
@hungrychinp 2 жыл бұрын
Hey sorry mate, don't have any measurements for you.
@ponydown418
@ponydown418 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video 👍👍👍
@hungrychinp
@hungrychinp 2 жыл бұрын
good luck!!
@SorinCRAClUN
@SorinCRAClUN 2 жыл бұрын
Cool gear and video!
@hungrychinp
@hungrychinp 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Sorin!
@tommip7842
@tommip7842 2 жыл бұрын
Have you also noticed the rear to be too aggressive on the rebound side? Mine is crazy fast even all the clicks in. Might try this fork rebound fix aswell. I feel near no difference even with many click changes
@hungrychinp
@hungrychinp 2 жыл бұрын
I bought the bike new with stock suspension, am only 78kg so technically the manual says the stock sprint rate is correct for me. I still went up one spring rate on both the front and back. That took a lot of the rebound issues I was having away from the rear. But I agree I’m not overly happy with rebound adjustments.
@DA98623
@DA98623 3 жыл бұрын
Are your Arc'teryx pants ok in the summertime, ventilation wise? What model are they? Thanks.
@hungrychinp
@hungrychinp 3 жыл бұрын
Hey mate they are the GAMMA LT PANT. I find they are fine in the summer, there is a bungee cord around the cuff so you can wear them with the legs pulled up if you get too warm. Another great option is the fjallraven zip off pants which gives you the best of both. Cheers
@peterjames9610
@peterjames9610 3 жыл бұрын
Good video thanks.
@hungrychinp
@hungrychinp Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@sunnydays11571
@sunnydays11571 3 жыл бұрын
Why . Why make triangular shims . Everything inside the fork and shock " for the most part" are cylindrical . I hate goofy sheat like that gimmicky BS .
@sunnydays11571
@sunnydays11571 3 жыл бұрын
Nice fix , or tweak tho !
@hungrychinp
@hungrychinp 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate! I’m not a mechanic and love Ktm’s but there does seem to be a trend toward cheaper or gimmicky parts that’s really frustrating.
@Nickjacobs999
@Nickjacobs999 3 жыл бұрын
HOW GOOD WAS IT 👍🤘
@pontier09
@pontier09 3 жыл бұрын
yea booiiii!!!!
@dazdaz9866
@dazdaz9866 3 жыл бұрын
Your poor clutch!
@hungrychinp
@hungrychinp 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah wasn’t in a good state when I pulled it out! 🤦‍♂️
@beeoffroad
@beeoffroad 3 жыл бұрын
Seek. Loved. Great weekend buddy