Not cut out for gusty light winds and flat lake, but at least you got to make a video 🙂
@jamieschumacher8 күн бұрын
Where did you buy your AFS gear? Directly from France or is there an outlet in North America? or Canada?
@foilthegreats8 күн бұрын
www.hysea.co
@PrayotBunmeema9 күн бұрын
My pure and Ultra sings loud as shit too
@trevorjones353013 күн бұрын
Whoaa...Benny Hill is alive!
@BruceHarms13 күн бұрын
Awesome bro! Greetings from sunny Aruba, looking like your having a blast...
@IRWE90514 күн бұрын
Great Progress! Looks like you don't keep much help on the Pump Up with the ParaWing and you need to rely more on Leg Pump. Keep those videos coming :)
@foilthegreats14 күн бұрын
When it’s windy gets up and going easy!
@MrHUGOLADEIRA14 күн бұрын
great video! when i have 15 knots or less, i can only fly with a 6m wing, i guess to use a parawing, i'll need something like 18+
@foilthegreats14 күн бұрын
It all depends on board and foil used. I am still figuring it all out.
@1rovingeye14 күн бұрын
What foil were you using in this video? What do you think is the minimum wind speed for parawinging this 2.9 with that foil?
@foilthegreats14 күн бұрын
I’m using AFS 1050/142 I would say 15 kts with a bump assist you can get up. If just getting pulled up over 20 kts
@grahamreed844314 күн бұрын
2.9 is so fun! Did you see my post about the 3mm dyneema shock cord for the harness line?
@foilthegreats14 күн бұрын
It is! I prefer a rigid harness line as it’s way easier to get in and out fast. I’m really happy with the 20” mono
@grahamreed844314 күн бұрын
@@foilthegreatsI hear ya, but it’s cool to not need to unhook at all when heading upwind. Then when you fall and restart, you can clip in before even standing up. The only time you need to clip in is after a redeployment post wave. It tangles way less than a mono line (which I tried already)
@foilthegreats14 күн бұрын
I like to hook and unhook constantly, I like that freedom. I do the same when winging.
@grahamreed844314 күн бұрын
@@foilthegreats same here when winging, but the bungee only feels like it’s hooked in when you extend your arm out to relieve the pressure. When you pull in to manually fly, you can easily control tension and it feels like you are only partially hooked in. With the mono line, it’s either full hook in or non. Not the case with the shock cord.
@foilthegreats14 күн бұрын
Yes but that is what I want. I have fallen in the shore break a few times and the last thing I want is to still be hooked in. The Parawing acts like a sea anchor. That is why I will not use a leash on the Parawing as well.
@dcharlton0714 күн бұрын
Wow! I take it your recommend the Parawing to climb upwind and DW? Looks amazing!
@foilthegreats14 күн бұрын
Yes, it’s amazing. Goes upwind just as good as wing and way faster.
@Fjordjumper14 күн бұрын
@@foilthegreats I've been watching these parawing videos thinking the experience looks far more cumbersome than winging but if it gets you upwind faster than a wing, well then that's a thing
@foilthegreats14 күн бұрын
It is definitely harder and more physical but you can’t beat the feeling of putting your wing away and just surfing.
@peterpadazopoulos295416 күн бұрын
where did you learn ?
@foilthegreats16 күн бұрын
I’m self taught
@youdigsurf16 күн бұрын
You got a crazy balance underwater to start like that, i guess you must be perfectly sync with the jet for it to work. Really interesting to show the tow start. You had a lot of fun it's seem 👍🤙
@foilthegreats16 күн бұрын
Takes some practice but pretty easy to get going like this. Was a super fun sesh!
@Axel-gn2ii17 күн бұрын
What's your gear and weight?
@foilthegreats16 күн бұрын
KT 7’ 100L. AFS Silk 1050. I’m 87kg
@maca564520 күн бұрын
Well, it does sound exhausting... Thx for the vids!
@foilthegreats20 күн бұрын
It’s definitely more physical than winging
@Harold-i7j20 күн бұрын
What is your weight ? Tks
@foilthegreats20 күн бұрын
I’m 87kg
@larrycollar132221 күн бұрын
“Starting to feel the magic” made me laugh. Could it be hypoxia?😂
@foilthegreats20 күн бұрын
Probably
@larrycollar132221 күн бұрын
Does it have less traction if the wing is wet versus being dry?
@foilthegreats20 күн бұрын
Feels a little bogged down for a few seconds as the water sheds off
@Spidercool00721 күн бұрын
Great progress! How can you compare this to wing foiling? Is it much more difficult? What are the main differences?
@foilthegreats21 күн бұрын
I would say it is harder and much more physical. You can blast upwind. It is super fast compared to a wing. No depower like a wing. You can’t put a wing in your pocket and wave ride.
@OCEANBOUND122 күн бұрын
THIS is parawinging! awesome video. I watched the whole thing. loved it, so real.
@foilthegreats22 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@Harold-i7j23 күн бұрын
It’s look like too light wind, how many knots ?
@foilthegreats22 күн бұрын
Yes 10-15 kts
@sandervankints36223 күн бұрын
Saw your first video. Great progress. Love it🤙🔥
@foilthegreats22 күн бұрын
More to come!
@aniva796523 күн бұрын
Is this go pro? Colours are good , can you share settings if this is go pro?
@foilthegreats22 күн бұрын
GoPro 12 with Max Lens Mod 2.0 stock settings but “adjust” “auto” in the quick app
@Harold-i7j23 күн бұрын
Greg say put your hands 🙌 on the same side, the green (front line)
@foilthegreats22 күн бұрын
I have found I like to keep my hands wider
@ohcuriouspat23 күн бұрын
Great work! What are the board and foil specs?
@foilthegreats22 күн бұрын
KT Dragonfly 7’ 100L AFS Silk 1050/HA38
@JifeLacket24 күн бұрын
Nice, I watched your previous video and am glad you are having some more fun (workout included!). This is high on my list of next purchases. I used to windsurf a bit and do some wakeboarding but I'm 220lb (and dropping, should be 190lb as I've learned from my athletics career, an injury messed me up). Any tips on setup for lets say 200lb?
@foilthegreats22 күн бұрын
I would take wing foil lesson first and learn to foil before using a parawing. Will be easier to learn. Will also give you an idea on what kind of gear will work for your ability and save you some money.
@afkfoil478424 күн бұрын
So winging has become a workout once again... :) But very cool I'd like one too, if I weren't on flat water only...
@grahamreed844324 күн бұрын
Looks like you are making rapid improvements! Keep up this trajectory.
@foilthegreats24 күн бұрын
That's the plan!
@dcharlton0724 күн бұрын
Thanks for posting. Is the goal to DW and wave ride with the wing stowed or are there other benefits to the inflatable wing?
@foilthegreats24 күн бұрын
The goal for me is to drive upwind, stow and wave ride. Flat water, freestyle or powered type riding I’d prefer using an inflatable wing. Wing is also just easier to handle and ride.
@shakrmakerАй бұрын
Did Greg tell you to pump the Pwing? I've never seen him do that. It just seems like you are disturbing the Pwing profile by trying to pump it like a regular inflatable wing. Same in paragliding.. and snowkiting you don't want oscillations like that in the canopy or the AOA. Pump the board, not the wing. Will also put a lot less stress on the Pwing ribs. Cheers
@foilthegreatsАй бұрын
I am not trying to pump the Pwing, it is just a side affect when heavily pumping the foil & board.
@shakrmakerАй бұрын
@@foilthegreats Try to keep your arms straight when you're pumping the board. It looked like you were doing bicep curls ;) kzbin.info/www/bejne/gpnPeoiQnLyXe5Y
@foilthegreatsАй бұрын
Looks to me like what I did worked great, got me up on foil. Ya, if enough wind in the Pwing sure let it pull me up and pump the board slightly. I am super underpowered in the video and anything I can do to drive momentum forward should be done.
@shakrmakerАй бұрын
@@foilthegreats check your attempted pumping in the timecode link I sent in my prior reply. The Pwing is collapsing and losing its wing profile with all that arm disturbance. Think of when you snowkite in marginal conditions with a soft ram air snowkite or you paraglide and foot launch off a hill, if you do either of those sports. To generate drive and lift the canopy must be quiet so it preserves its shape. If yanking the lines around worked, you'd see PG pilots yanking their ABC lines around during launch, but they don't. Anyway, best of luck Greg makes great products.
@foilthegreats29 күн бұрын
Sorry, I’m on mobile and your time code link doesn’t work. Thought you were referring to 19:00 ya, no kite experience here and this is my first session trying anything and everything. It does feel like that you can slightly pump or leverage the Pwing to pull yourself up. Thanks for the tips 🤙
@djscottyb_texasАй бұрын
Is that a kite in your pants or are you happy to see me?
@UndoneEVАй бұрын
What's a recommended beginner setup for an area that has predictable 10kt winds? Total newb. Some sailing background and some kayaking....
@foilthegreatsАй бұрын
I would seek out some lessons. You can progress pretty quickly out of beginner gear and save yourself a ton of cash.
@UndoneEVАй бұрын
@@foilthegreats great idea. Why didn't I think of that.
@janschenk85Ай бұрын
f@ck Yeah!
@foilthegreatsАй бұрын
😁🤙
@markussch.2417Ай бұрын
Not afraid to drop it and it flies away? I didnt see a leash from the wing to your Body?!
@foilthegreatsАй бұрын
I never dropped it but no it will not fly far.
@markussch.2417Ай бұрын
@@foilthegreats alright :)
@williamedwards4200Ай бұрын
I feel much better after seeing you slogging around. I guess it happens to even the best.
@foilthegreatsАй бұрын
If you’re not failing you’re not learning.
@twidmerАй бұрын
Wow. After you put on the silks I am impressed with your patience. I learned a lot that when things get bad, just as long as you are not too tangled, just focus on line management and also make sure the wind is nuking.
@twidmerАй бұрын
Great ride!!
@foilthegreatsАй бұрын
Ya, patience is key. I never let go of the kite the whole time. I didn’t really have much issue getting tangled. Just need more wind. Can’t wait to dial everything in!
@clickbaitnumberone1403Ай бұрын
At least you made a good fitness unit.
@OneOfManySamsАй бұрын
I have to say this looked like a serious struggle but what sport worth doing is easy off the bat, I'm sure the lack of wind didn't help. When you did get up and packed it up in your hands the potential was there to see. Can't wait to see your progression
@foilthegreatsАй бұрын
Can’t wait to do it again!
@qa1e2r4Ай бұрын
Very interesting adventure. As someone with zero experience or much of any knowledge about windsurfing/kiting. Don't you think that if the ropes of the Kyte go through the handle bar and are able to be pulled through. Essentially what you do with your hand to group the ropes but use the handle for the same purpose that way you can adjust the length of the ropes to specific wind conditions. Just as someone experienced commented under already. Longer ropes will be better in lower wind. And it seems you are forced to straighten the ropes after every fall either way. Maybe even connect the handle to your wrist and by simply pulling the ropes through it they can be easily straightened and once of the water you release the ropes to optimal length. And how likely is it to get tangled up in the ropes and impare your mobility. Can you get tangled up badly enough to drawn? Like if you fall over the kite and lines? Cheers and enjoyed the video.
@foilthegreatsАй бұрын
I’m sure we will see many innovations with this type of product. Exciting times. Biggest factor for me is need more wind and/or use a bigger foil. I have added a knife to my equipment if I ever have to cut my self out of the lines. It is definitely a danger.
@qa1e2r4Ай бұрын
@@foilthegreats wouldn't a paddle be ideal for under 15knts wind then, or maybe the ultimate tool a paddle that can transform into a Kyte?(Or a Kyte that can paddle!?!)😆 This wing seems very thin you could definitely hoist it into a tube of a paddle or have the handle break in 2 and the Kyte comes of in the middle. Would that be something practical and usable or I am way off the mark?
@foilthegreatsАй бұрын
I’m sure it’s possible. My use case is to drive upwind, stow and ride waves. Next time in these type of conditions I will use a bigger foil. Should get me up and riding pretty easily.
@FoilWaysАй бұрын
I'm seriously considering a Cedrus Surf mast at that size for DW, prone surf and pump. The main reason is I'd like to be able to run a few different brands's foils. The one thing that's held me back is the thicker bottom section compared to other masts. I feel that 19mm at the bottom and 16mm in the middle is still too thick even with the reduced chord. But I like everything else about it.
@foilthegreatsАй бұрын
I think it’s fine and worth the trade off. It is an excellent mast and in no way draggy or slow feeling especially with the foil disciplines you mentioned.
@jtechie3Ай бұрын
I would get a Hobie CAt
@foilthegreatsАй бұрын
I’ll stick with the foil, thanks
@marksalvage5704Ай бұрын
Well done..looks hard to learn but will get easier with time
@foilthegreatsАй бұрын
Yes it will
@dlmsarge8329Ай бұрын
I'm just waiting for some innovative individual to put 15m lines on one of these foils and hacksaw the thing under his boad off to get a more exciting ride!!
@foilthegreatsАй бұрын
19:00 is why I do it. No interest in kiting. I could have easily been ripping around with a wing. Just need to figure out the right gear setup. Next time will use bigger foil.
@dlmsarge8329Ай бұрын
@@foilthegreats You are certainly entitled to enjoy an inferior technology wrapped up as the newest trend.
@foilthegreatsАй бұрын
All I want to do is ride upwind, stow and ride waves. Cant do that with any other tool.
@jeromeullmann2157Ай бұрын
Bravo ! Only need some wind !
@foilthegreatsАй бұрын
Can’t wait for it!
@DrewInBrissieАй бұрын
Geeees, looks like a lot of hard work. Gold star for effort and perseverance. Thanks for sharing. Great to see innovation and as always the early adopters pay the price until the designs and products mature to make it easy and safe. I'll stick with my kite for foiling until this sport matures some more. Talking about safe, I could see that short leg rope whiplashing the board back in your face after a speedy crash. I use the Oceanus board leash so I don't lose my board and find it ideal as the feed out rope is a few metres long with only a mild recoil so it doesn't ever spring back like the rubber bungy ones.
@foilthegreatsАй бұрын
Next time will use bigger foil for these type of conditions. Should make it much easier. My leash is a 5’ and doesn’t really spring back just really short.
@Steve_Just_SteveАй бұрын
Is this harder to do than those inflatable wings?
@twidmerАй бұрын
Definite yes
@foilthegreatsАй бұрын
I would say yes
@Steve_Just_SteveАй бұрын
That looks hard as all get out. I better stay behind the boat!
@foilthegreatsАй бұрын
Will by way easier in the proper conditions
@scottbrechbiel2889Ай бұрын
Looks like the lines cause a delay when you try to pump like a regular hand wing. Throwing you off balance. Maybe more of a board pump technique would work better. 🤷♂️ great job I’m impressed light wind, 4m, smaller foil and got up in under 20min.
@foilthegreatsАй бұрын
You can really only pump the board. Even if it looks like it, I’m just trying to not crash the kite and pump the board as hard as possible going straight downwind looking for a bump assist to get up on foil.
@autokanadaАй бұрын
i think having small electric motor located at the top of the foil mast would be much beneficial than these wings. motor would give you boost enough for get out of the water and then turn off : PS: I do not wing foil.
@foilthegreatsАй бұрын
Check out Foil Drive it is exactly what you described. I prefer to stay wind powered and not have to deal with the weight penalty a system like that imposes. I was just on the wrong size gear for conditions. More videos to come!
@twidmerАй бұрын
@@foilthegreatsI used my fd with my 6.2. Only way I got up. Winds were light and I was supplementing around 30 percent motor to wind. I got the gist of flying it, but even with the 6.2 I would want 20 knots. The bigger size would get stuck to the water too easy and was way too big to relaunch off the board.
@foilthegreatsАй бұрын
I always preferred using a bigger DW style board and bigger foil over using bigger wing. I can see that size being not easy to handle when in the water. Good idea using both at the same time to get the hang of it. Enjoy being a pioneer!
@autokanadaАй бұрын
it is all bad and ugly with this parachute :)
@foilthegreatsАй бұрын
Check out 19:00 makes it all worth learning
@rain44uАй бұрын
Thanks for showing the hole backstage, not only "fuck yeahh!!!" moment, brother! Inspired by your experience!