@flippop101 such a lot at this show it's definitely worth a visit

@@Falstaff1893 the housing estate is built on a a former royal ordnance factory site ( Roften works). Where they produced anti aircraft guns so not a virgin green field site

@@Merseywail Yes but that land was where they found buried ordinance & had to be cleared the problem is where they built houses the natural drainage suffered flooding as in all new build estates all over Britain

@@crystalmethking built on the site of a factory. Rofton works a form royal ordnance factory manufacturing anti aircraft guns

The problems with the loop are nothing to do with climate change. It's due to the loss of industry that extracted the water. This has caused the watertable to rise. Grouting and sealing at the construction phase would have prevented it. But that's easy to say with hindsight.

@Phil-ws5jp very true & always has been. We only ever get crumbs from the table

@nawbus the situation wasn't as bad back then. They couldn't have known that the industry that extracted the water in the area would disappear. There are outlets in the tunnel lining and a drain under the track, which should have been adequate, If those firms hadn't closed.

I know a few who would disagree, but they always dismiss anything new as rubbish & anything old is great, a common enthusiast position. Although the new trains have teething troubles, as most new stock does, I personally like the new trains. I've even gotten used to the less than soft seats.

⁠True. But still so sad to see the Class 507 and Class 508 that are now going for scrap and some that have been preserved. And Merseyrail could order more extra Class 777s if necessary.

@@Andrewjg_89 I think they will order more 777s at some point

@@AnthonyValentine-vm1yc the water levels are monitored very closely on 3rd rail lines for obvious reasons. But it's not just the electric issues flooding causes. Water can dislodge ballast, cause landslides or even wash track away in extreme cases..

@irenejohnston6802 yes lots of changes over the century's. Most of the lost rivers are still there. Culverted or converted to sewers. Reclaimed land is probably not the best place to build an underground railway.

@markdonovan6810 when they built the underground extensions. The expectation was for the industry that had been extracting the water to continue; even expand. They had no idea. It would disappear completely. Water also enters the system from the river tunnel & has done since it's construction in the 1880s. All the cost saving measures Merseyrail suffered was due to economic pressures of the 70s. Not helped by industrial action delaying construction & increasing costs again.

Cannot agree to that the design and build of the Merseyrail was shoddy or on the cheap, but it’s more that each government since the 1970s has neglected spending on infrastructure in Northern England while ploughing millions of pounds into London and the South East, look at Manchester, we had plans to have Picc-Vic underground rail in the early 1970s, but it’s was cancelled by the government using the usual cost cutting reasons.

@Phil-ws5jp investment has been lacking in recent years certainly. Manchester was a bit late to the party with the PicVic underground. Not helped by years trying reinvent the train with their time wasting monorail rapid transit nonsense. I have a copy of vol 2 of their report "Manchester rapid transit study" (1967). The ultimate conclusion was a system called "Duorail" should be adopted. The Duorail system being twin track rail with trains with steel flanged wheels, ( or conventional rail as we know it. Who would have thought!!) Merseyside on the other hand had the act to build the underground passed by parliament in 1968. The plans more or less ready to go. Just the design details to be worked out.

I had noticed the add. I've also noticed that this comment is visible in my studio app but not the public youtube channel (seems only I can see it). Are you seeing your comment or has youtube hidden it

@@Merseywail I can see both of my comments 👍 edit- maybe i have been shadow-banned. The "official" narrative is fragile and needs to be protected from criticism at all costs lest le cat be lettest out por le bag 😉

​@Tellhimhesdead-m1y it's showing now. Funny that.

Building on flood plains is another. The clue is in the name for fs sake.

@Tellhimhesdead-m1y "it’s allegedly symptom of larger, global changes". I did say allegedly in the video. As to if it is or isn't, it is up to individual's to decide. As a gardener by trade I see more waterlogged garden's now than ever

Look how many times we get extreme precipitation after red auroras. It's no coincidence.

@@thisladlovescoffee I`m not that bothered with sun-spots or anything else outside our sphere of influence. I`m more concerned with habitat loss, green-belt destruction etc etc and i think the powers that be would rather divert our attention with a bit of the old "blinding you with science" routine. Flood-plains are built on and when they erm.... flood, the climate change schtick gets rolled out, not that it ever gets rolled in mind you.

With all the evidence mounting of floods fires freak winds, increasing droughts and heavy rain fall, what else explains the changes in the climate? Oh I know it must be immigrants, that's it.

@thisladlovescoffee aurora is caused by coronal ejections . This is tied to sunspot activity which is an 11year cycle. We are in sunspot maximum at the moment.

@vernongoodey5096 we had the overhead railway to transport the thousands of workers needed to run the docks. They like the overhead have now gone. The dock workforce is now drastically reduced & most travel to work by car.

the overhead railway should of be kept

@@anthonymcdonnell6615 the railway was falling to bits. Bad design & poor maintenance led to it's demise. I know lots say how good it would be great for tourists. But tourists didn't start visiting Liverpool till the late 1980s. The private company simply wouldn't have survived. British rail weren't interested in talking it on . Liverpool council were prioritising rebuilding the city & homes devastated by the war. And didn't have the funding to prop up a failing railway.

@@scousedavies565 I never heard of floods years ago either. Lack of investment is a issue certainly, but in my job as a gardener am seeing an increase in waterlogged gardens. That has little to do with drains or sewage systems. It's simply got nowhere to go, the watertable is just to high. Extra drainage is needed but with our country on its arse due to continuous incompetent government. The investment needed is slow coming.

@@maskedavenger2578 interesting idea. I don't think they ever thought about that. They put a lot of effort into draining the Mersey tunnel with drainage headings and pump stations each side of the river. They also put effort into ventilation of the underground line. Unfortunately they didn't do a great job, smoke & steam driving passenger's away. Hence why the line was electrified in 1903

@ I wasn’t just referring to the Mersey rail line . I knew the reason for the need to electrify the underground line, that was obvious . I was referring to railways in general .

@maskedavenger2578 they needed water to be in troughs in order to scoop it up. This was in operation by the 1860s. I don't think scooping up flood water would have worked. It would have been contaminated with stones, mud, leaves, twigs etc. You wouldn't want that in your tank or worse boiler.

@ If they had built troughs all along the lines , the flood waters would have drained into them & the water could have been sucked up & filtered as train passed along tracks without stopping to take on water . Job done .

@maskedavenger2578 am not sure. Flooding creates millions of gallons of water. Would trains be enough to clear vast Flooded areas

Also, there is barely any infrastructure maintenance in this country. Just look at the state of the roads. It grinds me gears that 'climate change' has become a catch all, to wash away any accountability for terrible planning, and lack of investment

@mattevans4377 Very true but if climate change is to be addressed people need to see they are the problem. Stop byeing crap. The government should start manufacturing solar thermal panels to be supplied directly to new builds instead of giving a grant that is diluted through middle men who by in panels from China. Make them here. Change the regs on drainage why should the utilities be responsible to process rain water that has be let into their systems from roads. Wind turbines are not the fix, we have strong rivers use submerged turbines, they are not seen the ships go over them, no silting and the power only has to be cabled a short distance. it is predictable so less fallback storage needed. The system was proven in the 80's to be viable however the government put the decimal point in the wrong place and pulled funding since then it has be hobbled by the wind turbine cartels. Ev's scrap 800 million cars and build 800 million ev's. Does that sound dumb. My 20 year old care emits less pollution than any EV's on this planet. Lack of investment to an extent but money is being spent on short term fixes when the problem is too big to action in one go, you have to change the mindset and people need to pay their way to keep their community standards. Give grants to big box buildings like B and Q Amazon etc, put solar on your roof, sell exesses to the grid in exchange we give you some tax breaks. Much better doing that than a hundred separate systems on private houses. Terrible planning yes or was it planning to conform to poor legislation and regulation. Best to you and good luck because we are stuffed.

@WOFFY-qc9te they really need to think again about how waste water is handled. The old mostly Victorian sewers are being overwhelmed

@mattevans4377 the issues on Merseyrail underground date back well before climate change. Flooding was an issue in the early 80s. The loop suffered badly during this time with the water causing signal failure & excessive track corrosion. The planners never expected the loss of industry in the area. Industry that extracted water & kept the underlying water table low. With that gone water levels have risen significantly.

@@Merseywail So true, part of the water level problem is that water is sourced mainly from reservoirs not artesian wells so as you mentioned the water table is rising. We are fortunate that United Utilities have been pro active and built a lot of infrastructure it is unfortunate that they get blamed for events caused by poor urban planning over burdening the system. Great Channel keep going.

@flippop101 very kind comment, thank you.

@@SuperMorgan1980it certainly does. There's also some videos on how the underground was built.

@@AndreiTupolev Terry Morris's latest purchase. I remember them when new

@KPP365 thanks. Hopefully with time & and investment, they can solve these issues

@Merseywail We are lucky to have such a great transport system in our city. We have always managed to het around, even in adverse weather conditions. All the best to you and all the staff at Merseyrail .

@KPP365 they do do a often thankless job

@Merseywail That's unfortunately because of the self-entitled spoil special people in the world today. Some people complain because it makes them feel important ? Instead of just getting on with their day. I could honestly write a book on how people have changed. No manners. No, please. No, thank you. Well, rant over 🙄 Mersey travel, Mersey rail do a fantastic job 👍

@KPP365 I agree with you

@@caramelldansen2204 I suppose most don't even give the issues a second thought. Unless their train is delayed or cancelled.

@Merseywail Helping people is a thankless job! I almost wish people did think twice about Merseyrail, maybe we'd get more than like two stations and a few hundred metres' extension for one line in the past 5 decades! ...or at least we'd have more people interested in railways!!

@caramelldansen2204 we do get short changed compared to other cities that begin with L

@@Merseywail We'd all be better off without that bloody city...

@caramelldansen2204 yes most definitely

@kieranstravels flooding does seem to be an increasing problem. I've never known it this bad

@Merseywail Unfortunately, climate change is a real problem, that most of the world's biggest emitters don't really care about. It can only get worse from here unless proper action is taken

Warrington west was flooding not long after it was built

@ste2442 the line's been there since 1870s so although it's a new station it's still Vulnerable to the flood issues of the area. Being in a cutting certainly didn't help. But you would have thought better defences could have been provided

@ yes mate I know , it was on my old patch at NWR . The lads where there over Xmas on flood watch , I personally don’t think WW station was needed as they’ve quite a few stations already . The money would have been better spent on maintenance on the old Cheshire lines stations .

@victormeldrew8181 that I can't answer best check merseyrails website. My guess is it will be ok as the weather is supposed to be improving

@@Merseywail Thanks for the reply. I was thinking of doing that on the Day. Just if they are off, My Daughter wouldn'thave her phone in school, so wouldnt be able to tell her, Thanks again, and great channel. Love watching

@victormeldrew8181 cheers. Hope it's alright for you on the day

@@Merseywail Thanks a lot. Let you know my friend on the Evening that date, see you on the next one, Cheers

@@Anonymoususer_8823 thanks. I lean towards older buses. I understand the younger generation wanting to preserve 'their' vehicles, but 'my' vehicles are those from the late 60s into the early 80s

@Andrewjg_89 thanks.. there will be more videos this year. Hopefully i can catch up with ones ive planned. I really appreciate your support.

⁠Ok 👍

@kevinellis8869 I don't know the area too well. But I think they tried to mirror some old routes as close as they could. It would have been largely Crosville back then

@@Merseywail When you turned right into Rhosnesni Lane, by my old school playing field, our bus actually went into the estate before coming out by the shops at Central Avenue and then went into Maes-y-dre Estate before going back into town.

@kevinellis8869 I'm glad it revived old memories.

@Stevo_KZbin Thanks to Beeching there's plenty of disused railways around. The move to containers also effectively killed off the lines to the docks.

@philipgrieve394 I too would have preferred more older buses. There was supposed to be more, but i believe some had issues. Plus flooding in the north west caused further problems. It being a charity event they were swapped out rather than cancel the event

@modelrailwaysandme thanks. The Thomas / Potter layouts are a good way to introduce youngsters to the hobby. I had a Lego train set when I was young. One of the very early types with the big motor unit. They have come a long way since then.

@@davidmills4292 I remember them in that livery before the explosion of colours of dereg

@Merseywail they went cream and green and I can remember a Bristol being orange and green then red and yellow then first took over crosville

@@garyhardwick8489 yep playing with his new toy

@martynelse6121 it was getting dark by then unfortunately. My camera doesn't handle low light too well. But I managed a ride on it though.

@marksinthehouse1968 yes they both performed well. My preference being the olympian. I remember them when fairway got them.

@@Merseywail I’ve driven both leyland and Volvo both decent buses especially running late soon catch up 😊

@marksinthehouse1968 I remember when ribble got them. A driver of a brand new ribble Olympian on its first day in service wouldn't pull over to let my pregnant friend get off. Soon regretted it when she was sick all over his new bus.

@@Merseywail blimey ,if I had one on the 27 which was really a 237 Olympian I knew if I lost time in central by the time due to them bring nippy I got to Camden on time ,so I take it baby is grown up now like my two I’m old 😊😊

6:40 sorry you've answered my question. 😂 Where are those steps?

@Stevo_KZbin that's a difficult one to answer. It took me a while to find them. I used side by side maps to put me in the general area. Then it was a case of searching till I found them

@@Merseywail thanks. think I've got an idea.

It was via Ormskirk and kirkdale to Liverpool Exchange

@@Stevo_KZbin thank you

@andrewbayliss5421 believe they were yes. It's still a work in progress, so should look even better. When its next displayed

@@Merseywail I was hoping it was a kit so I could build one for my railway.

@andrewbayliss5421 There are kits you could possibly convert. Perhaps contact the Liverpool model railway society & see if they could help

@Andrewjg_89 thanks i wish I had the modelling skills that these exhibitors have.

@ormsk954 ithe line to Ormskirk I use too most Saturdays. Often, go to the market there. Though it has gotten smaller over the years

@@neilstephen6761 many thanks. I have always found the Manchester show a very enjoyable one. A good way to round off the year.

@rob58uk I think the van is one of the Oxford die-cast range and was used in this freelance layout. Oxford die-cast do a good range of 00 gauge road vehicles. I have a few on my own layout, which is currently non operational after a radiator burst.

@@Merseywail I'll have to get one, it will remind my of my happy childhood days growing up in Coventry.

@rob58uk just checked. There's one for sale on Amazon at the moment £8.19.Oxford Diecast 76MJ011 Morris J Ice Cream Di Mascios amzn.eu/d/6zKPxVr

@@going2thedogs they always have a great selection of top layouts at the Manchester show. The T gauge "Ribblehead" layout, a short notice addition was intriguing to me . Such a tiny gauge. I also love the mix of sizes, from the huge Overlord layout to the small Staly Vegas, basically a layout in a box. I look forward to next year's show.

@@RailroadsandRailways thanks, they always put a good show on. I assume it would have been quieter Sunday afternoon. I was there Saturday & it was extremely busy, as popular show usually are. They're planning something special next year apparently.

@johnbristow8099 it was created as a shunting layout. I assume the name was inspired the comedian. Certainly a good play on words

@@alanoliver535 that is O gauge. There were a variety of scales . The smallest T gauge was used on the Ribblehead layout . Certainly get more landscape in T gauge, but you get more detail in O gauge.

@@kieranstravels thanks. Was over there on a Alpha tours holiday. Although they had an itinerary, it was the usual half day here half day there rubbish. I ditched that, got a island travelcard and spent most of my time on the train and trams.

@@Merseywail That's much better. I'm very surprised you didn't visit the transport museum in Jurby on your visit.

@@kieranstravels it was back in April, Jurby wasn't open then or I would have definitely gone there

@@Merseywail Ah, that's a shame. Jurby has a very similar Marshall Dart to the one in VRT's possession

@flunkyminion lol.we do have a unique sense of humour sometimes

@flunkyminion thanks, I've not heard that before, but it wouldn't surprise me 🫣 . The carriages were so disgusting they couldn't sell them on & they were scrapped