Elder Maxon: "YOU. ARE. A SYNTH!! You're not the real Paladin Danse, you're a synthezoid creature. You are a Institute plaything" Danse: "You are a sad, strange bearded man. Farewell"

Damn if only the rest of Fallout 4 had such compelling writing. :)

Bro turned around and *Dashed*

Y'all realize Maxon's also talking about AI, right?

I miss this game so much

Maxson is right! I honor Maxson but would never kill Danse. He would need to kill us both.

actually i kinda wish that you had the option to pull a gun on maxon and kill him.

0:30 probeta babies be like:

Elder Maxson: you wanna die for this thing FINE!!!

We’re not God we don’t decide who lives and who dies

The weight of Maxson's words, the body animation in these kinds of scenes even today i still think this is better then what's seen in other games.

This right here was my turning point into siding with the BoS Elder Maxson is right. Flesh is flesh, machine is machine. Both are completely different things Danse was created in a lab, and wasn’t grown from the womb of a human mother who struggled to give her child life

If Maxon is soooo sure Danse is just a machine, then why is he arguing with him as if he's human?

Anyone else think it’s ironic that is dialogue sounds less robotic once he discovers he’s not human?

as heartbreaking as it is , maxson is right and it would probably bother him internaly to some extent that danse turned out to be a synth

im the only you who agrees with maxson? ok danse you were a great soldier but, all you did was because your programmed to...only did that to gain our trust and betray us when we least expect, you dont know that, but the institute will make you do that, because you are a robot, they just to press a button

Why does everyone in this game look like they came from the same womb?

When i played fallout 4 for the 1st time. This was the best plot twist that i ever seen i almost do what anakin made to windu to save palpatine. Spoiler: didn't work

Brave of him to confront Danse all by himself.

Holy shit this is Bethesda writing? This single 5 minute clip is better than any conversation in the scrolls games

Holy shit this is Bethesda writing? This single 5 minute clip is better than anything I’ve played in the scrolls games

I have to agree with maxson in this argument

*runs away* lol wtf

0:30 Me when I see some dude online trying to convince that AI girlfriends are great

Chode

Some seriously impressive voice acting and writing in this scene.

We can danse if we want to

Nice coat there, Maxson. Hope you don't mind me taling it.

This... *THIS* is how you do Factions in video games, both sides have fair points to fight and die for and the Brotherhood has legit reason to see this as a threat to the Commonwealth, they're not right but they aren't wrong either...most importantly, they aren't incapable of negotiation. They can be reasoned with, they can be dissuaded and convinced that an execution isn't always necessary and that while War may never change...it isn't forever and while it's absences may be temporary, so is its presence. The Brotherhood isn't evil...they're just REALLY determined to make sure history doesn't repeat itself.

Say what you will about Fallout 4, I will not defend it's god awful story, nor it's plethora of bugs and glitches... but the stuff on the side is just so fucking good! This mission alone has so much weight, complexity and interesting concepts to it that challenges the Human condition and it deserves the respect I'm giving it.

What's funny is that due to the new knowledge the Fallout show gives us about Vault-Tech is that wasn't science that outpaced man, it was capitalism

I swear Maxon looks like drake

I really hated that Bethesda has cut the rest of this questline, it was supposed to be possible for Danse to challenge Arthur and take over as the new Elder.

Maxson is the oldest 20 year old i've ever seen

I always choose the railroad because of this. His disregard for life is sick, synths are no longer robots they are another form of life, choosing to destroy them all is genocide and I’m not Hitler,

Wrong I right you wrong

If Maxson is willing to switch up like that, then the rest of the chapter can burn along with their precious Prydwen and Vertibirds

I have to know: does anyone know who wrote this part in particular? Slightly related note: I love the physical acting in this. The fact that they seemed to create a unique animation just for this scene (0:36) blows my mind.

Maxson was right!!

In my main play through I shot Danse pretty much instantly and never really thought about it much afterwards, Ad Victoriam!

maxson is both a moron and a hipocrate. and the world will be a better place without bos.

Easy to forget, all these years later, that this game actually has some good shit in it.

Og fallout fans: FO4 has some of the worst writing ever wahhhh the factions are bad wahh

Every time I hear Paladin danse's Voice I always expect him to say "YOU HAVE NO IDEA OF THE TRUE POWER A DRAGONBORN CAN WIELD!"

There was another cut ending when you could fight the elder.

While many love Danse and will go to bat for him you really should take a deeper look into what the message Max is delivering which is absolutely a truth you cannot avoid especially for humanitys sake. Humans tend to let their emotions get in the way of rational and logical truth. While Danse does not pose a threat altleast now the truth is that he is still a programmed machine in which at anytime the Institue chooses they could send a Courser to either fetch, terminate and lastly initiate a reset giving Danse new memories and new instructions to kill. You know this is just a game which non of that actually happens but that does not negate that if this were an actual scenario with real life choices and decisions, you would truly be accountable for every decision made including sparing Danse. You may not like nor have the stomach to put Danse down but the truth remains, you could and would possibly get many killed though you'd believe it to be unintentional, the blame would soley be yours. The Brotherhood made it very clear what their objectives were, you as the sole survivor have to option to not join them, if you feel strongly against Maxs orders to kill Danse. Yes even Nick Valentines is another synth who at anytime could potentionally become a high risk threat should the Institute decide to target him for reset. I don't determine things in game by emotional choices, I think things through rationally and logically because I do not want blood on my hands should my choice fueled by emotion get people killed. Luckily Fallout 4 is not well written in terms of actual realistic consequences so you don't have to make realistic decisions which later have drastic consequences.

It’s pretty sad but Maxon has a point, it’s hard to trust something that has come from an institute that is still developing at the very least

in all my playtroughs ive never sided with the brotherhood... how anyone could is beyond me.. but im glad i found this video tho, i never knew Danse was a synth

This is just Blade Runner in a nutshell

Honestly this entire mission is one of the best written parts in the entire game. Finding out that Danse, the guy who essentially mentored you and sponsored your entry in the Brotherhood, was a synth all along was a brilliant twist. Because through the entire game he was trying to teach you the Brotherhood’s ideals, saying that synths, ghouls, and mutants shouldn’t be allowed to exist. And then upon finding out that he himself is a synth, he has an identity crisis and goes into hiding. You gotta respect both Danse and Maxson here. Both of them are 100% committed to the Brotherhood. Danse is willing to let himself be killed to uphold his beliefs, and Maxson isn’t willing to compromise his ideals even though Danse was one of his best officers. They both believe in the same thing. If you weren’t here, Danse would’ve 100% let Maxson kill him, and the only reason he’s allowed to live if you are here is because Maxson respects you and your contributions enough to let Danse walk away just this once, which I thought was cool. Finding out that there are people in the Brotherhood like Scribe Haylen who still respect Danse because of his accomplishments despite him being a synth was also cool to see.