One of my favourite drum sound on a song was recorded only with SM57s. And it was a world hit, and many people try to recreate the sound regardless their knowledge or lack of it about the microphones that were used.

Nice 251

Amazing song. Thank you all.

cool video ...i am not a fan of sm57......

Really informative !!! Best advice ever… walk around and listen; ears first brain next !!! I always feel like I’d like to coach drummers to play: two bars of a beat, and then a 1 measure fill (and the EXACT same fill every time) which includes a couple of soft notes and a couple of loud notes, then hit the right crash followed by the left crash…and cycle the whole thing over and over. I have literally watched hundreds of videos on drum recording techniques and I very rarely see a drummer allow me to actually hear the toms with dynamics, or who plays the right and left cymbals so I can check my panning. Please write that on a Post-it note and hand it to the next drummer you see and ask him to hand it to the next one he meets, and so on until we are all on the same page 😉❤️🎶 Great video, I’m off to the studio right now to experiment away !!!!!!!!!

The drummer is sick

So basically the farther away from the kit the worse it sounds lol

This one was so interesting - thank you for the video!

Did this 20 years ago, put the mic (not a 57 but an even cheaper 33-1070c) on the kick drum facing the drummer (me) atop a towel to eliminate rattle/resonance. With a little EQ and reverb it sounded a bit like Surfer Rosa minus the stereo imaging

Middle aged white guys like drums!

I learned a lot from this, but the instructor never showed where he prefers the mic placed, he had the students decide and then he fine tuned the positions. I would like to see his choice of locations

I need someone like you to help me record I have original songs and I play all the instruments and I need help with each and every little detail

You’re a legend

But HOW DID HE GET the 1/4 tomes?? He didn’t do anything… it just played different. Ohhhh it’s all Bellows Direction. Ah Ha.

That is so cool! I must get one tuned to Byzantine soft chromatic!

Amazing!

Love that front mic at 14:30 - thanks for the lesson! 💀🔥🥁

I started recording in 1961, with one mic, one mono tape machine, and one basement. It's almost painful to watch you struggle to do something we did every day, normally. Bill P.

I did not expect that - great job guys!

Kinda skipped ahead to 4:26 and thought it felt like a Tim and Eric sketch I assume this is solid stuff though 🙏

This is awsome! A fresh sound for the classic BG lineup, perfectly played, sung and recorded, what´s not to like?

I'm surprised no one is taking into account that when you hit a drum the skin compresses first. But if you're standing in front of the kick, you get an expansion first. To keep everything in sync, behind the the kit at drummers ear level makes the most sense for one mic

This is such a good reminder.

14:05 sounds best to me

Im very happy that i found this channel!

This was very intresting for recording drums, we just recorded that with my band, so i think this is very helpful for the future.

Summary of the sounds from different mic positions: 9:49 - Attendee Mic Position 1 10:05 - Attendee Mic Position 2 10:18 - Attendee Mic Position 3 10:27 - Attendee Mic Position 4 10:34 - Talk about the Attendee Mic Positions 11:22 - Repositoning "Attendee Mic Position 1" 12:46 - "Mic 4", which I guess = "Attendee Mic Position 1" ??? 13:05 - Repositioned "Mic 4" (balanced sound) 13:15 - Talk about Repositioned "Mic 4" 14:00 - Alternative Mic Position 1 14:20 - Alternative Mic Position 2 14:38 - Alternative Mic Position 3 15:07 - Alternative Mic Position 4

How boring that why I leave it up to my producer in the studio as a professional drummer for a professional studio

this is amazing

beautiful sounding Snare!

Didnt know bobby Moynahan taught sound engineering classes too

You know its crazy how much the room can impact the sound of cymbals. I've been gigging a lot recently and my two crash cymbals will take turns sounding extremely harsh depending on the room they are set up in. One night one will sound smooth and pleasant and the other will sound harsh, then vice versa. One is a 17" and one is 18"

A good tool to use is a video camera. Setup a camera that captures as much of the room as possible and walk around the room with the mike, placing it in different locations for 10 seconds at a time. Sync the microphone audio to the video and note the best sounding locations.

Great content, interesting and helpful, nuff respect!

As an amateur producer, my best sounding drums, concrete floor, 6’ tall ceilings, Sm-57 on the ground next to the kick, Tascam 4-track, blew my mind and still does 20 years later. I still use them today in my hip-hop productions.

So wait, that last clip where he's showing the single-mic result, is that just using the mic he placed above the kick pointed at the snare splitting the toms?

Ohhhhh man he’s got vintage Sonor phonic!!! One of the best, I own one in gold.

Thanks for the video

Oh Y E S - it´s the position, and the room! You nailed it! Thanx !

Very "ear-opening." Nice drumming John.

Mic that ponytail

14:30 Love the front mic position. Thanks for posting this. It really is worthwhile.

Ah yes the Horst Link SONOR....a mighty classic of german engineering.

I’m so excited about this

I personally like that high tuned bass drum sound.

I'm melted

14:05

Height is one-third of distance, except for the under-the-ride position. No-one went for a floor position, just above the surface, like the Shure Engineers explored in the 1970s, it may go back before then. Great way to get a reflected sound off the floor. The Shure people made a cradle to hold the mic at the right angle. There's a paper online as a PDF.