Wow! thanks alot for this detailed explanation Ironheadbiker. I thought it was a lost cause. I'm going to try all of this over the next couple of months and I will get back to you. I have a good feeling you figured it out. I do the same type of riding as you the majority of time. Thanks again
@ironheadbikerКүн бұрын
It has helped many riders get it to an acceptable level. Sadly, the geometry is Judy wrong on the rear. The angle the rear suspension runs, (almost 45°) along with the limited travel, and the tender spring having way too much coil, makes it tough to get dialed in. Do not, and I can't stress enough, do not waste your money on Elka shocks. I did. Stage 5s, and they're worse than the stock. Just keep working with your stock setup and you'll get there. Takes notes, adjust, ride. Repeat.
@FANATICALSIDERIDER18 сағат бұрын
@@ironheadbiker Thanks for the info and I'm to cheap to spend money on Elkas lol Sorry they didn't work out for you, is that because of the geometry of the 950 suspension setup?
@ironheadbiker14 сағат бұрын
@FANATICALSIDERIDER a couple reasons. They don't use a crossover ring, so you have to fully compress the tender spring before it transfers to the primary springs. My local Can Am dealer is actually a professional suspension guy and he showed me the geometry is bad. Then he showed me how the rear suspension on an X3 virtually runs straight up and down, and THRU the body to acquire it's 20" of suspension. The zforce only has 10". They wanted to keep it under the body, so they ran it backwards at an angle to try to get a much travel as they could. If you watched the unveiling of the new 2025 zforce (now delayed until 2026), they switched to a vertical suspension going up thru the body, and went to Fox shocks. The prices they were advertising reflected it. So I did some searching and actually found a new 2024 X3 maverick 135hp turbo for $17,400. I sold my zforce for $16,000. I added a windshield and roof and a few other things, but I can say this. My X3 floats over the roughest of terrain. Little to no adjustment of the suspension needed at all. My main reason for switching was the leg room. I've had many knee surgeries and have been on some longer rides where they started hurting bad. The x3 is a little tighter to get into, but once in, I can damn near straighted my legs, and I'm 6'4". I've had it since September and have 1,800 miles on it, and I love it. My zforce was sold with 2,600 miles on it, and never an issue with it. But I never could get the ride to an acceptable level. We rip quite hard, for most of the day. By day's end I was used up. The largest mistake I made was buying the Elka's. I actually feel cheated. The stock was better.
@DieselMechanic3015 күн бұрын
Just got a quote for my 54 meteor and it’s 1100.. I’ll be doing this as well.. where did you get the motor?
@jgutie437719 күн бұрын
Im taking this inspiration to build a set for my ranger.
@ironheadbiker19 күн бұрын
Go buy some stainless steel "Lift off" hinges. There's no pin to pull. Just lift up on the door and walk away. I switched to them and they're much better
@jgutie437719 күн бұрын
@ironheadbiker would 1/8" thick be too thin? I'm having trouble finding 1/4 in a 4x8 sheet
@jaredperry6700Ай бұрын
Do you think a 8ft truck snow blade would be too much for the loader. I’m getting ready to build one but want to make sure I’m not gonna damage the loader. Thanks.
@ironheadbikerАй бұрын
It really comes down to the snow. How deep, how heavy? (Wet). I think I'd go V blade if possible. The largest issue you'll have is, if you angle it, the weight of the resistance of the snow you're trying to move, doesn't push the front of your machine to the side. My pusher is around 1,100lbs and it sometimes seems too heavy. Having the ability to angle it would really help in forward push.
@jaredperry6700Ай бұрын
@ I’ve had a couple people say I’d bend cylinder rods or the loader but I feel as long as I go easy and check out where I’m plowing ahead of time I should be fine. I may build a v-blade next if this works good and we get a decent snow here in VA. Thankyou.
@zoggrog8823Ай бұрын
Landpride attachments are overpriced garbage
@ironheadbiker19 күн бұрын
Yeah, they're quality doesn't meet their pricing
@cwalinski202 ай бұрын
So would the rebound be the most important thing to adjust when considering riding through the woops? Right now I’m experiencing a very, jerky uneven throttle it feels like going through them. Kind of have to roll over them to keep any kind of smoothness. Would just adjusting the rebound help with this so I don’t have to adjust the height to sacrifice overall ride width? Thank you so much for the video!
@ironheadbiker2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the kind words. Sadly, cfmoto has had a long history of an. Over sensitive throttle. Check with redneck garage and tell him your setup to get a smoother clutch kit. Probably 18g weights instead of the 20g factory ones and a different spring. Your rebound, if not properly set up will make the rear end "buck". It's the spring snapping back too fast. Mainly when the wheels are off of the ground. Your might be surprised to find tht the low speed will also affect the ride thru whoops. You're at least in the fine tuning stage. But the jerky throttle is mostly likely your clutch weights. It's amazing the difference just 2g on each weight makes.
@danacook96152 ай бұрын
I have one and can't agree with all the comments more. Thank you for sharing all your hard work!!
@ironheadbiker2 ай бұрын
I appreciate your response. I've caught a lot of "flak" because I guess I'm not selling anything, and I dare say the stock suspension are a great suspension, they just need tuning. After buying and running the Elka stage 5s, I can honestly say the stock are just as good, if not better. I feel I wasted $3,500 on these oversold, under tested Elka's. They are a "game changer", they're a waste of money. They're not a true dual rate as they don't even come with a crossover nut, so you're not going to use the main spring until the tender spring completely compresses. I tried calling Elka once a day, for 5 days in a row, leaving messages each time I have yet, (and know will never) to get a response. I'm just trying to keep others from making my mistake, and not buy the "cfmoto suspension is junk straight from the factory" bullshit. Put a little work in adjusting, and save a ton of money. Cheers
@ax_zord65382 ай бұрын
Thank you very much for the explaination, it is very helpful. do you recommend to install dfferent tires on the stock wheels, if yes please give me the tires size.
@ironheadbiker2 ай бұрын
I went to 32x10x14. No mods needed, but more strain on the drivetrain. Could void a warranty if failure as a result of the larger tires. You'll also have to switch the clutching and helix at that size. I'd stay stock, maybe go 30x10x14, but it's all personal use and preference. I liked the 32s but the added center of gravity and extra work i had to do on clutches and a helix got expensive.
@wallacefrey62472 ай бұрын
Thanks for the info. My L5740 is stuck in the woods right with this exact problem.
@ironheadbiker2 ай бұрын
Good luck. Hopefully it's an easy fix
@DavidCummings-q9n3 ай бұрын
You rock guy! Saved me hours figuring out shat was going on with the spring. Thanks ..
@ironheadbiker3 ай бұрын
Glad it helped! Simple fix. Cheers
@DavidMills-i6e3 ай бұрын
My L3301 developed this issue shortly after buying it brand new. Thank you for the advice!
@ironheadbiker3 ай бұрын
You're welcome very common issue, and an even easier fix, which is rare. Cheers
@jeremyohio13 ай бұрын
I like it. Great idea
@ironheadbiker3 ай бұрын
Thank you. I added stainless steel lift off hinges so there was no pin to pull, just lift off.
@phattdaddy633 ай бұрын
I have this box blade and watched this video before buying. I am a machinist and made "L" pins that dropped in...gravity holds them in place and have not had a single one pop out of position. I agree this may not be the smartest design. The box blade is solid...these clips...well they suck. Just my 2 cents.
@roybranham3 ай бұрын
Thank you. I have been moving lever back by hand past two years. Assumed it was a bad or bent cable.
@ironheadbiker3 ай бұрын
You are welcome. I'm glad it helped yet another. Cheers
@fglocal52503 ай бұрын
I just adjusted my suspension and want to let everybody know that you can remove the rear air intake on the 950 EX HO, and it makes taking off the suspension easy.
@ironheadbiker3 ай бұрын
Good info. I'm glad you found my video helpful. Sadly, I bought the elka stage 5s and they are an absolute disappointment. I honestly feel my stock suspension was set up better than the Elka's. Furthermore, I tried calling Elka in Canada 5 times, once each day, 5 days in a row, seeking help with my issues. Each time I received a message saying "they're busy helping other customers, please leave your name and number, and we'll get back to you." I never received a call back. Absolute horseshit customer service. It was the largest waste of money I spent on my machine.
@fglocal52503 ай бұрын
I just picked up a 23 HO EX and thought the suspension seemed stiff. I can't thank you enough. CF Moto should pay you for explaining this to their customers. I bet if more people new this info they would sell even more machines or better yet people that own one would not want to sell to upgrade. I love going fast also but nothing beats great soft ride.
@ironheadbiker3 ай бұрын
I'm glad it helped. I had already ordered my Elka stage 5s BEFORE I figured out these settings and once I put my $3,500 Elka's on, I sadly found out I could not get them dialed in. The factory ones rode better. It was such a disappointment and waste of money. It was always the rear end. I would implore anybody to stick with the stock and not make the same mistake i made. Cheers
@Dendrotera13 ай бұрын
My cf moto x1000 in the manual is 250ml but no way I can put 250 in the front differential
@ironheadbiker2 ай бұрын
That's only 8.5 ounces. It should easily fit.
@danielochoa37704 ай бұрын
Love the fang lights great job do u know from what year the fang lights are from
@ironheadbiker4 ай бұрын
2021 polaris. I cut them in the dash. Thanks for the kind words
@danielochoa37704 ай бұрын
@@ironheadbiker thank you so much man have a nice day
@ironheadbiker4 ай бұрын
@danielochoa3770 you as well.
@BOKEHMASTER4 ай бұрын
Awesome video thanks!!!
@ironheadbiker4 ай бұрын
Thank you. You are welcome
@tylercarter7704 ай бұрын
There's something wrong with my new force 1000. It makes the worst vibrating sound I've ever heard under acceleration. Dealer says it's normal. There's a bad balance on a driveshaft or something wrong in trans or something. Doesn't sound like this one for sure
@Up2winPartStore4 ай бұрын
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@ironheadbiker4 ай бұрын
I'd be curious to see what parts you're talking about. Thanks.
@Up2winPartStore4 ай бұрын
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@ironheadbiker4 ай бұрын
Sure, I'll try out the blades for you.
@Up2winPartStore4 ай бұрын
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@PeterSoto-b6q4 ай бұрын
if it was'nt for smart guys sharing the knowledge the have aquired about machines that so many of us have we could be lost or at least making blunders because it is almost impossible to find a shop manual on the CF950 HO EX to guide us thru the jungle. Thank You sir.
@ironheadbiker4 ай бұрын
You are welcome. Yeah, I'm sad to say I have given up on my z950 ho ex and sold it last week. It was a great entry-level machine, but I bought a can am x3 maverick. The next chapter begins
@PeterSoto-b6q4 ай бұрын
@@ironheadbiker you are a speed freak, I get it. Enjoy, (and you will), your new ride. I live in the desert and the CF is great for me .Have Fun!!
@ironheadbiker4 ай бұрын
Yeah not always, but I do like to open it up when I can. After having 2 cfmotos, my frustration with their support, literally every clutch needing aftermarket work to make them adequate, and the limited accessories, it's just time to move on. Then new ones released yesterday look promising, but what new issues will arise, and how long until parts are available? Time will tell.
@thatc104 ай бұрын
Thanks for the tip. Fixed my PTO in 30 seconds thanks to this video.
@ironheadbiker4 ай бұрын
Awesome news. You're very welcome.
@rodneyjones6754 ай бұрын
Mind started in 6 months after I got it I did your fix and it's fix thank you sir
@ironheadbiker4 ай бұрын
You are welcome. So easy to fix, and a load off of thy mind. Good ol youtube saves the day! Cheers
@DustinMiller-n2z4 ай бұрын
This video saved me a lot of worry. Very thorough, had it fixed in a couple of minutes. Thank You!
@ironheadbiker4 ай бұрын
Glad I could help you Dustin. I was so stressed when I first had the issue, but 10 times more relieved when I found out how easy it was to fix. I've had not 1 issue since.
@aliminareci90064 ай бұрын
Hello. The front suspension of the model you have is burst. How much and at what value should I add oil after repairing? Do you have any information? Thank you.
@petersonhomestead845 ай бұрын
Thank you for the video😊. Mine just started acting up and was the exact same issue 5 minute fix
@ironheadbiker5 ай бұрын
You're welcome. I'm glad it helped.
@BestG20245 ай бұрын
I used some rope lights from Amazon and they hyper flash. Any ideas?
@ironheadbiker5 ай бұрын
Hard to guess. Start out on checking to see that the relay and flasher are all led rated because the low voltage could throw off a standard relay, or flasher. Also if you are using the rear brake lights as a turn signal, that also could cause the same issue like it did on my z950 ho ex. I just ran a separate brake/ turn/ running light instead.
@mattbarnes67415 ай бұрын
Finally a video that actually helps! Thank you sir 🫡
@ironheadbiker5 ай бұрын
Lol. I'm glad it helped! You are very welcome!
@erniewhite66595 ай бұрын
I bought the same mower, used for $500. I am supposed to pick it up today. I was wondering if my L2501 would mow good with the 72 in. Looks like yours does really good.
@ironheadbiker5 ай бұрын
It's awesome! Best thing I've ever done mowing wise. I'll never want another zero turn again
@Yukfoo1235 ай бұрын
Tighten the high speed all the way up to the second to the last click tighten the low speed all the way up to the second from the last click loosen your rebound all the way loose tighten your rear springs a half inch works perfect on the HO EX thank you
@ironheadbiker5 ай бұрын
There's a lot of variables that come in to play. One size doesn't fit all, for sure. Weight is a huge factor on the preload. There's tons of adjust, the bad is that it's only roughly 10" of travel.
@spooldup44315 ай бұрын
I lubed the cable to no avail and sure didn’t want to take in her in for warranty work. Thank you, good sir
@ironheadbiker5 ай бұрын
Awesome I'm glad it helped
@SaboSells5 ай бұрын
I loaded mine with spare tire, spare gas tank, spare water tank, tool kit, etc and the stock springs are Way to compressed. Ordered new springs from Good Ol Boy Offroad in Tenessee and get all my ride height back. Much better with the load I carry.
@ironheadbiker5 ай бұрын
Yeah that's great info. The tender spring isn't even close to what it should be. I ordered elka stage 5s and have nothing but regret with them. I wish I would've pursued changing the springs on the stock ones, because I really feel like I've wasted $3,500.
@SaboSells5 ай бұрын
@@ironheadbiker I looked at Elka and it would have costed me more for the shocks than I paid for the vehicle so I went with a cheaper alternative. Took it for it's first ride today and it was Fantastic!
@LouDribin5 ай бұрын
Thank you!!!!
@ironheadbiker5 ай бұрын
Glad it could help you. You're welcome.
@billthompson81826 ай бұрын
Been oiling and greasing my spring. It still froze. Had to use break free on it. Great video. Well done.
@ironheadbiker6 ай бұрын
Add it to the list of all it helped. Crazy it's so simple, yet debilitating to the machine. I haven't had an issue since. Glad it helped you. Cheers
@lonniechartrand6 ай бұрын
Just drop a 5/8" x 5" bolt in the hole where the clips are. Problem solved! If you want to get fancy you can also use 1/2 inch x 4" receiver hitch pins. It really is as simple as that.
@ironheadbiker6 ай бұрын
Yeah I welded up some spare rebar into T shaped pins. Worked like a charm. But getting those rocks out of the V's was quite a pain.
@dickymoe1116 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for posting tis video! My 2501 just startied doing the very same thing, and i was about to start playing wit the cable tension, assuming it has stretched or slipped and needed adjusting, but after an onlin search, it was obvious that this is a VERY common issue with these tractors. I love my Kubota mini ex. and tractor and have had VERY few issues with either, but the design for this PTO switch seems very "Mickey mouse" and poorly designed, for a piece of outdoor equipment that is subject to the weather, dust, vegetative clippings, etc. Hopefully Kubota comes to their senses and upgrades this design, to something that doesn't resemble a low end, lawnmower throttle cable! Thanks again for taking your time to post this, I'm sure that itt will help many others down the road! All the best!
@ClashmansWe6 ай бұрын
Great news, THX
@ironheadbiker6 ай бұрын
You are welcome
@haus056 ай бұрын
"were just going to go down and back " 25 laps around the propane tank later LOL great video though !
@ironheadbiker6 ай бұрын
Right. Lol. Man I love the finish mower. Sold my zero turn the next weekend and have never looked back. The fuel savings alone is well worth it, but the fact I don't get clippings blown all over me and the rest discharge is awesome.
@JeremyMost736 ай бұрын
I was hopeful this would work for me, but on my L2900 GST. My PTO was engaging/disengaging properly until a few days ago when the cable broke. I ordered and replaced the cable and there is no binding when I go from engage/disengage, I lubricated the spring and area where the lever goes into the ?transmission? case, but regardless the PTO remains engaged. I guess I'll have to just be careful when I have my brush hog connected... ugh.
@ironheadbiker6 ай бұрын
Did you reach in and work the lever where the pto goes into the case back and forth? Mine took quite an amount of working before it freed it up?
@JeremyMost736 ай бұрын
@@ironheadbiker I have almost zero room to maneuver the lever because it is directly behind my trans fluid filter housing. It moves freely if I use a screwdriver to pry it against the spring tension. The dealer said he's seen it where the shift fork and or the item it engages get so worn it literally just slips past and will no longer engage/disengage.
@ironheadbiker6 ай бұрын
Damn. Kubota has a known issue and should make it right. I wish they just had the old levers. Dumb, but strong.
@collinwalker6 ай бұрын
Great video! Had mine for a year and never adjusted. Got a feeling this is going to be a game changer. You made it very easy to understand.
@ironheadbiker6 ай бұрын
Thank you. I've had dozen of guys have great luck with it. I bought the stage 5 Elka's and the regret and disappointment had been immense. The front are nice but my rear ride like a lumber wagon. Ain't much if any better than stock once the stock are adjusted properly. I've had several guys message me with the same issues with the Elka's.
@robfred27136 ай бұрын
Yep, my air cleaner cover was not put on properly, ended up taking a set presumably from the heat, would not clip on flush after I discovered. Consequently I had a small gap, didn’t notice it until 150 miles in, air filter was packed with dust from mountain trails, hoping my engine is OK. Oh and yes, broke the center tab on the hood.
@ironheadbiker6 ай бұрын
Man you almost got all the boxes checked! I'm not a big fan of paper filters, especially in high dust areas. I had way too much dust down stream of my stock filter. They've come a long way, still they have a few areas that could get better.
@billyjoeray43087 ай бұрын
Cry baby 👶 😢
@ironheadbiker7 ай бұрын
Why even open your mouth? Dipshit
@Ungovernable747 ай бұрын
Thanks. 👍 and subbed. Great trade 😀
@ironheadbiker7 ай бұрын
Thank you! Cheers
@chadsteele17 ай бұрын
Wow! She's a beauty. I'm looking at machines, but I'm down to a Kawsaki ridge or defender. Just bought five acres so want a three seater but fun for trail rides. Look forward to seeing some videos. Cheers from Canikstan, formely known as Canada.
@ironheadbiker7 ай бұрын
Lol. I know what you mean! Thanks about the machine, I F'N love it. Soooooo much fun to drive. I love kawasaki as well. If we here in the socialist society of Wisconsin were allowed to have a 68" wide machine, I'd have a KRX. There sure is some beautiful country up there, eh? Lol. I rode my Harley up to Alaska back in '04. Tent camped the whole way. The year of all the fires up there. 🍻
@jeffnelson94167 ай бұрын
Thank you for explaining in detail the taper, non taper part of the installation. I am about to go out and install mine on my L3800. Fellow cheese head here. BTW Richard at Bro Tek is really good when it comes to backing and supporting his product, and customers. These spacers are quality made and machined beautifully.
@ironheadbiker7 ай бұрын
Absolutely my favorite addition. The stability is awesome.
@Yukfoo1237 ай бұрын
Yup, always in 4x4, more predictable. Thank you for all your input. Gonna get er done now....
@ironheadbiker7 ай бұрын
NP. Good luck.
@Yukfoo1237 ай бұрын
The top bolts on the back shocks, can I get them from underneath or do I have to pull the seats and remove the back cover? I'm bottoming out in deep whoops, mainly the rear. Got my high speed all the way tight, rebound all the way loose and haven't touched the low speed yet. I do notice the side to side floating you mentioned and the rear squatting on acceleration. Gonna tighten up the low speeds. Had a wildcat that bottomed out the same way. Cranked the preload down half inch and it solved it. Thanks for the reply. Mostly do fast aggressive trail riding. Tires are at 9-10 psi
@ironheadbiker7 ай бұрын
I was able to reach everything from the floor underneath. And yes, the low speed affects more than you would think as well. Also with the side to side wandering, don't be afraid to run in for wheel drive. With both rear tires locked in, as soon as they spin, they want to "pass", skidding or spinning tires will choose a side because they're faster than a tire that's got traction. You'll be amazed at the control you gain in having the 4x4 in. Think rally car. As your rear tires spin the front will pull you to keep you straight.
@Yukfoo1237 ай бұрын
It's a 2023 h o e x
@Yukfoo1237 ай бұрын
I need to tighten my preload on all four shocks is there a trick to it or how do you take the shocks off the buggy is there an easy way everything looks tucked up in there real tight and not very accessible
@ironheadbiker7 ай бұрын
It can been done on the machine, but tricky. I took mine off, just a bolt on top and bottom. Lift the machine and get the weight off. You need good spanner wrenches, not the cheap tool kit one. I used a ratchet strap to compress the spring to take the pressure off of the top retaining nut. Clean the threads as best you can, loosen the locking nut and then spin the lower nut down. Measure the lowest part of the nut to the top of the spring to make sure both sides get adjusted the same. It can be done on the machine, but it's tough to get a wrench up in there. If you try to do it while it's on the machine, put the ratchet strap on the springs while it's sitting on the ground, then when you lift the machine, the tension will already be relieved. When you release the ratchet, make sure the spring is seated properly in the stopper nut.