Weren't they "cooking" in beta too lol

meh not the best appearance. the set though is just lazy design.

It's stil that stupid jump all over the place playstyle, now moved from fell rush to the hunt. Big difference. Also vengeful retreat...ffs just remove that already from the rotation, it should be a defensive only.

what if i quested for a day or so and then boosted another toon, do i have to redo those quests to get back to where i was on the original toon?

That looks like Maiev's armor, which isn't bad, but not really original in my opinion.

im glad that the movement talents has been changed. Its always annoying to fel rush into random places in m+, happy that fel blade could be alternative instead.

I wish Blizzard experiment with a visual or audio queue when these tier buffs apply to your character other than the little square in the top right corner of your screen. Also, with the number of unique visuals that trinkets apply to your spells/abilities, if Blizzard made an interface to apply some of these to your critical hits, I think it would be so cool!

meh, momentum replacement isn't that different.

Fire the DH balancing person. Get someone with a bit of fantasy in there.

As someone who quit end of legion, this looks nothing like what a DH is.. mew DH set is crappido

love your WAGO WA profile for Havoc, have you tweaked it for VENGEANCE? Would love to have a combo pack so I dont need to use another.

personally not a fan of the tier set, it doesnt read well imho. Its supposed to be Fel Reaver inspired and yet its covered in fur. It almost looks like they were making a plate set but realized its lacking some leather material so they slapped on some fur. Not the worst set sure, but not nearly as good as the DK set for example. I am VERY glad its not the same 3 colors as always though!

I hope Dh comeback with those changes

LETS GOOO

there is no fucking way they are adding ANOTHER damage buff to keep track of this class is just a joke now

Looks lame to me idk

Looks good, but the set bonuses are sad.

I like the look but, whoever decided that each Set for DH needs a giant blade or hook on the shoulders needs to rethinkg this decision, this looks really stupid on an otherwise great set.

Set looks pretty cool

i'm not a big fan of the tier bonuses, yes it makes sense with goblin theme but it's just kinda boring, at least the sets look really cool, my favourite DH set being the red and black one

i think its a win

Finally a different look, seems like they heard our dislike of the samey sets we have had in the past

Back to haste/vers?

Whoever is doing the changes for dh doesnt play dh at all. We have huge problems with cds misalign, 2000 buttons opener, mobility linked to damage exposing you to huge risks and very low damage compared to other classes outside of meta. The approach they are using is totally wrong. It's like having a road with 1000 holes and they just fill some here and there, well, guess what, you have to make road anew. This will only cause more problems in the future if they dont decide to do a SERIOUS UPDATE for the dh, with serious gameplay and mechanics improvements.

Thank God! Finally! Bye bye momentum.

It's like they have no idea what a DH should look like, it's complete and udder trash.

I don't really agree to the set being "GORGEOUS". Tbh, to me it's another confirm that Blizzard developers DON'T play our class, since we got almost a plate-like transmog while every other transmog is not like that. And let's not talk about the RNG crap of the set bonus... Poor imagination effort. Hope they get more work done with the talents changes

This tier sett is a joke 😂😂 thats make kid in 10 min .

Give Demon Hunters "Soar" like ze dragons, no balance needed as it's not a dps cooldown.

The Tier set is not going to be played around in it's current power state. It would never be worth holding Eyebeam for that ever especially not with the heavy reduction to the cooldown of Eyebeam now. Eyebeam will be our highest dmg in AoE by a pretty large margin now i believe, unless they tune down the numbers on it.

The chance to get to 10 stacks when starting from 0 is about 23%. You have a 52% chance of maintaining it for the five following cancellation-prone abilities, and a 44% chance of getting to six of those. Not sure if that means we’ll ever want to hold CS/BD to cast big abilities like The Hunt or Sigil of Spite, I’m guessing no since we don’t plan initiative around them anyway.

Eye beam meta build lfg!!!

Looks awesome.

Meh

Last time i enjoyed Havoc was w sinful brand and eye-beam...

Tier set looks boring. DK’s got it good!

It doesn't look bad but neither good, so I'llstill use 90% of the green Legion transmog, with the exception of the Ammirdrassil helm. Also, I REALLY hope they change the sets, that's boring as hell, it feels bad. Having a very small buff that if you use the buff, you can erase it if you have bad luck? They feel like Placeholders.

Streamers be trippin’

I would probably add "a fire inside" to our normal kit and rebalance the energy generation using immolation aura as a maintenance buff with a constant energy generatio and demon blades/bites as an extra source. You can put ragefire as a capstone in the place of fel barrage and move FB to the right

This tier and rework definitely push Havoc into crit and haste, idk about the balancing to vers since mastery is heavily affected by AMN removal. Interesting and frightening changes at the same time.

Looks to be inspired a bit by the Garothi

These bonuses are extremely boring. 0 gameplay implications

Nice. the spec needed a buff and they did a RNG to it. very nice.

So they are dumbing down the Tier set bonus to try and balance everyone in the same pot. Dev being lazy

I understand not wanting to be critical of new things before rigorous testing, but between the tier set and the upcoming rework, havoc is looking worse than ever. The tier set doesn't inspire any gameplay changes or even an inkling of talent changes and the rework is a mess. In what world would adding three movement buttons to inertia be interesting or fun. The hunt kinda makes sense since it has a big cooldown button but vengeful retreat instead of immo aura doesn't even make sense, especially considering how initiative currently works, are we supposed to fel rush in then veng out just to fel rush back in? I know they have lots of time to cook but this doesn't seem good at all.

I believe we ll turn into crit-haste, go away from mastery and play AR, especially if the Screaming Brutality talent doesn't waste your Reaver's Glaive but auto-shoot a normal glaive

I hate fel rush and mommentum to do dps! Love normal play without move there and here.

That tier set bonus is a tragedy. Gambling is thematic to goblins that I'll give them but... Even if we remove the gambling. Yay 10% flat damage increase between eyebeams/metas and then 10% crit when in meta, straight up no gameplay impact just "you do more damage". Appearance is w/e I have the same transmog since legion anyway.

" They are working real hard" not for DH. They just just threw up a couple of crumbs to shut us up. At least I won't freeze to death with how much coal is in my stocking.

The appearance is good, but the bonus is just depressing. Ranged dps DO have a different 2-set (jackpot) than melee, and it's just better. Melee is the only role that has an RNG way of losing its RNG bonus, and the bonuses are just small buffs to builders or spenders that you wont feel while ranged get extra procs of abilities. I'm not a fan of the shared tier sets, im not a fan of melee getting a "you can lose it all" proc for no reason, and for havoc specifically im not a fan of yet another chaos strike / blade dance tier set.