hiya. add some hose! garden hose or plastic ..the longer the better..and it will be a trumpet..just not very loud..google Hosephone...cheers Pete

hiya.na just dont worry about it. the pitch is irrelevant.rather just make a centred resonant sound...cheets pete

@@TresMamboMusicSchool thanks!

Hi Erik from Denmark ! So the basic idea is not to make the lips smaller while keeping the air steady but the opposite. Keep the lips steady not bigger not smaller, the same and let the air PRESSURE do the work. You might like to check out the " L Exersize" video for trumpet - this will help you find how much air to use when going up or getting louder...Good luck on your journey. Cheers Pete

@@TresMamboMusicSchool . Great answer (and sorry for my poor english...), but how to compress...I still got the same hole, so more air gives more volume... I check the L excercise out!

@@dktrumpet65 That is not correct. If the hole IS the same and you blow harder the note must go up because pressure is defined as force/area. ONLY if the hole is getting bigger AND you are blowing more can the note get louder because the pressure is staying the same but the FLOW is increasing. So you might THINK you are keeping it the same but you cant be. So that is what the L exercise is all about.... a simple way to develop your air to make the pitch go up or get louder or any combination of the two all controlled by the ear hearing a just noticeable increase in volume...Good luck and let us all know how you get on. Cheers Pete

@@TresMamboMusicSchool Thank you very much. We'll keep in touch! Erik

The fundamental frequency is not important, its just a convenience. So it is more practical to record the trumpet with the tuning slide in a "normal" position and pitch shift the near bye value to 230 - just to make the maths easier. But if you wanted to record your actual pitch and do the maths on that - sure knock yourself out!

@@TresMamboMusicSchool I get it. Thank you.

Good on you! I see you go to school in New Orleans and play in a marching band, wow what fun ! Cheers Pete Downunder

If you have not seen it, I have posted a video about how to find the most in tune mpc for any given trumpet and player on my channel. Good Luck.

@@TresMamboMusicSchool thanks so much. I will check that out now.

post the link to the one your are looking at and i'll let you know - i was thinking the same thing but could not actually find a JinBao one...cheers Pete

@@TresMamboMusicSchool then there's this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZoSodoGmedKGpNE

@@rtpwyk OK that is pretty cute as a portable horn. Now two things you have to remember. A rotary anything has a really short lead pipe compared to piston equivalent so you'll never get the same sound out of both, but that does not mean you wont like it. I did some digging the Jinbao rotary cornet is called the JBCR-1500. I can't see one on AliExpress ATM but what I would do is find an Ali store that sells lots of Jinbao and ask them if they would get one in at a good price. You can order from the factory but that is more expensive - go figure! Good luck, cheers Pete

@@TresMamboMusicSchool Ain't it the cutest? The JP Mini French Horns are also cute. They actually sound like a small french horn. Have intonation issues, but who brings a mini french horn to an orchestra? Maybe caroling where it doesn't matter as much since everyone else is gonna be flat anyways? I may punt for that Cornet, even though the piping looks very flugel hornish.

Interesting review! I will definitely check out the mouthpiece video, too. In my opinion the short leadpipe is the main design flaw of common rotary trumpets. However, the different tone characteristics give them some meaning. I have one with a water key on the lower side of the tubing and don’t like it, because I don’t reach it with my pinkie. I agree that good rotary valves are an advantage for faster passages. Unfortunately, up to now that was expensive. And cleaning these is difficult, I‘ve never done that myself.

More expensive rotaries may have as many as 3 keys that are used to enhance the upper register.

@@careylymanjones Actually the Water Key doubles as a 4th Key for those High notes

You still have to practice - imagining and creating a beautiful in tune sound. Buzzing is not only a waste of time but leads to tensions that are very hard to get rid off once they set in. So just forget that. Just put your lips as close together and as relaxed as possible and blow. Physics and your imagination/will power will take care of the rest. GOOD LUCK ! Cheers Pete

@@TresMamboMusicSchool I can confirm that buzzing leads to tension that is oh my god how hard to get rid of!

@@snrnsjd Yo D. Thanks for your comments, if you have students messed up with tension from buzzing, email me I have several exercises to help exactly this situation - as over all these decades I have had to face this problem time and time again. Cheers Pete

The lips can influence a pitch, if need be. We do this for tuning, vibrato, tone color etc but they don't "make the pitch" No amount of lip will manifest a note if the minimum air pressure for that note is not provided. This is not a premise it is the science of the matter. Read the paper and speak to that if you can. If science is not your thing then think about an airplane. It has a "stall speed" below which it falls out of the sky. It can fly faster than stall speed sure and the wings like the lips can influence the result but the wings of a plane do not "make" the flight - like a bird by flapping do they? its the air pressure under the wing, due to its forward motion, that keeps the plane flying. So it is with the trumpet players lips. The aerodynamic forces keep the lip in motion. Hence if you want to play and improve on the trumpet focus on the air pressure before anything else. Cheers Pete

@@TresMamboMusicSchool this does not preclude lip posture. And lip posture 100 percent controls pitch. Pressure applied then varies for the required dynamic. One can play varied pitches with a contant Pressure. Which also disproves your premise. Air pressure does provide the energy density. And with flow the air power required for sound power. But the lip posture controls the pitch played.

@@darryljones9208 So if you claim that you can play various pitches while keeping the pressure constant ...LETS SEE IT, repeat my experiments with the CPAP machine providing a fixed pressure and lets see you play more than one pitch on a fixed pressure. Post your video and let the world see the proof, that is how science is done....

@@TresMamboMusicSchool buzzing a mouthpiece into a CPAP machine is not remotely the same as playing the trumpet. One must simply measure the air pressure in the oral space while playing. The embouchure self resistance does increase with range, reducing efficiency and requiring more energy input but there is not a unique pressure for any note.

@@darryljones9208 So have you even read Neville Fletcher's paper then? because that is EXACTLY the case and this is indeed his experimental design....There is a minimum pressure value for every note starting out at about 1.5kpa for a bottom C that rises with respect to pitch. This was found to be independent of players or their skill levels. I'm happy to have a conversation but look at all the research first before you make any more comments.

Hi there. Well maybe send me a vid of you trying and I can see why not. In short though if you are blowing air and dont get a sound its can only be because the lips are too stiff or too far apart or both... So close together as you can and perfectly relaxed is the way to go. You should be making a bright hissy noise, not a dark woofy one....Cheers Pete

The lips are too far apart that is why you dont get sound.

Interesting point. I'll do some experiments about this and report back ! Thanks

@@TresMamboMusicSchool Nice to hear. I also wonder what the same experiment would give without the tuning slide. Leadpipe buzzing slots in other slots than the harmonic series, and I wonder if that shows in the frequency analysis. If the analysis still gives the harmonic series, that would kind of moot the point, wouldn't it?

@@gauthierostervall4849 No not possible. As I mentioned in the video the "trumpet" starts out as straight tube. Which has a series but not a harmonic one something near - a 9th, a minor 6th, a fourth etc - this is what you play and hear when you blow the pipe - something like E, F, D, G'', C''' etc. By ADDING the bell the the first two are forced into something like an octave the next into a fifth and then next into an actual 4th in tune with the others. This gives you Pedal + C G C. The tones above this a forced into sort of harmonic series but usual way sharp of the first three - this is the job of the MPC ...to LOWER 4,5,6,7,8...to make the whole series harmonic AND in tune. When we blow the pipe to warm up - the pitch is irrelevant only the sound. It DOES make sense however to find a mpc that is the LOUDEST on the pipe as this will give you loudest high notes, but the tuning is for the complete system. Hope that helps, Cheers Pete

Clever idea to measure the impulse response of the instrument and look at the frequency spectrum!!!

AWESOME that you were taught the right stuff from the get go, so was I. My beef is that many kids today are being led astray being told that mpc buzz determines the pitch, or the tongue arch or the mpc position or pivot ...blah blah blah... are wasting their time and getting nowhere developing these secondary effects when they should be prioritizing the development the primary effect which air pressure delivery. BTW this was the science geek video. The practical application video - aimed at doers rather than thinkers... is coming soon so stay tuned and thanks for your input. Cheers Pete.