Definitely take that Challenger out for a ride before you purchase your Indian. I've owned mine since they came out and it's an amazing motorcycle. I originally owned a chieftain which is air cooled and it was an awesome motorcycle but just didn't have the punch that the Challenger brings to the street. Being liquid cooled it makes it a nice ride when you're down in Daytona and the traffic gets bad during bike week. I don't have to pull over to let my motorcycle cool down. Enjoy your new motorcycle no matter what you buy! Just get out there and ride!
@RichinHeart.17 сағат бұрын
Thank you for the information Hitman, Enjoy! ✌️
@davidparks1369Күн бұрын
Tiny minds do dumb shit.
@davidhill588Күн бұрын
the two Indian shops I went to wouldn't even make me an offer. said they had too many harleys they've taken in and can't even sell them at auction
@RichinHeart.Күн бұрын
I expected that.
@user-ty1wm3cn7nКүн бұрын
Very nice. Plz’ sell it to me😍 Let me know. Cheers, Billy C.
@RichinHeart.Күн бұрын
15k and it’s yours
@user-ty1wm3cn7nКүн бұрын
@@RichinHeart. I hear you.. You’re spot on sir. 💙 It’s a good one. - I can & shall ponder 🤔 long & hard. Thx 😊 It’s between your Yr. Blue and 120yr. Red that We all like. I test ride a Zepher Blue in 2020, and should have bought it.
@RichinHeart.23 сағат бұрын
@@user-ty1wm3cn7n I thought of going for the 120th as well, looks good in Red.
@michaelblew6019Күн бұрын
Sorry dude,but i cant have any sympathy for ya
@RichinHeart.Күн бұрын
None expected, we all have free will … for the time being.
@michaelblew6019Күн бұрын
So Lowes went broke,,so are you going to tear your house down??you dont your harley,ill give you $500.00 for each one you got!!,,,,,my harleys are over 25 yrs old and im not selling
@RichinHeart.Күн бұрын
I’m not suggesting anybody do so. I’m just at my breaking point with this foolishness
@michaelblew6019Күн бұрын
@RichinHeart. Just wondering,,,what/who started this woke/DEI crap anyway and why did anyone go along with it?
@RichinHeart.Күн бұрын
@@michaelblew6019 I don’t know the details but the “New World Order” crowd I’d suspect. World economic forum, Davos, George Soros. Just a guess.
@michaelblew6019Күн бұрын
@RichinHeart. guess the "fun"police are out and about
@RichinHeart.Күн бұрын
They have a path for the World that isn’t compatible with the American dream.
@martincvitkovich724Күн бұрын
I live in S/W Ohio. We are not afraid to be seen on a Harley
@RichinHeart.Күн бұрын
Ride safe ✌️
@rl6319Күн бұрын
I have a 2024 chieftain dark horse. It does not have top end noise in the engine and it has stock pipes sounds good. It’s a 116.
@RichinHeart.Күн бұрын
The 116 I rode wasn’t noisy
@RCh-t7tКүн бұрын
Hey Dude don't go apeshit !!!!! You have a true A#1 beautiful H-D scoot. H-D corp will eventually get their shit straight.
@stephenchota63962 күн бұрын
I was at my local Harley dealer and his showroom was packed with bikes at the end of August. Those bikes arent selling. Too expensive. There are a ton of low milage used bikes for sale out there. These old men are selling their bikes will all of the accessories for good prices.
@RichinHeart.Күн бұрын
Yep, it’s smart to buy used. Seems under 10k mileage bikes are plentiful
@Freedom-xj8ww2 күн бұрын
If you wimps give up your Harley you never were a true rider, don't fall for this Crap.
@RichinHeart.Күн бұрын
I’ve been a rider since I was a kid, don’t fall for the Worldwide agenda they are trying to force on us.
@BigBadJohn2 күн бұрын
I won't give 30k for a pickup truck so when they show me the sticker on a bike that high it flips me out. I like the older Indian Chief but those 111's had weak connecting rods and the case wouldn't take a big bore kit like the newer bikes will. These bikes are just too weak stock and like my Fatboy they need bars, seat, cam, exhaust and tuning right away so I have a hard time getting excited about them. Maybe one day they'll get people that ride involved with building bikes again.
@PotatoeJoe692 күн бұрын
The connecting rods on the Thunderstroke, and the case, have no durability issues at all. They WILL take 116 big bore kits and cams. Look at photos and diagrams of the internals of the Indian Thunderstroke. They're 3x beefier than anything Harley has ever used.
@BigBadJohn2 күн бұрын
@@PotatoeJoe69 After what year model 2016? Just looked it runs into 2018 year model. I bought my current Harley (2019) when there was an issue so I skipped the Indian. Then after that Indian stopped making the model I wanted. They were also unwilling to deal on the bike I really wanted (fort worth)
@RichinHeart.Күн бұрын
Yeah, I regret spending 40k on my CVO. It’s crazy what they ask for these bikes.
@RichinHeart.Күн бұрын
@@PotatoeJoe69 thanks for sharing your knowledge, everyone learning.
@RichinHeart.Күн бұрын
@@BigBadJohn ride safe Bro✌️
@endofsociety2 күн бұрын
The only gripe i have about indian is that the highway bars and heel toe shifter doesnt come standard on most of their bagger models. My 18 streetglide came standard with highway bars, heel toe shifter, and gps. I understand that its a preference but, you can always take the heel shifter off if you dont like it. With indian, you have to pay thousands more for an upgraded version to get those things and even so, have to pay an extra couple hundred bucks to get the heel toe shifter put on the standard bagger version. There arent that many aftermarket parts available for indian so you kinda have to buy from indian for the most part to customize your bike. Indians are beautiful, well balanced, comfortable bikes. Even their stock seats are better than harleys stock seats for the most part.
@RichinHeart.2 күн бұрын
I didn’t think once about highway pegs, I’d be lost without them. The heel shifter I never use. Next trip out I’ll see if I should be using it.
@mrmurphy86092 күн бұрын
Hey good for you. Glad you came in from the storm. Welcome to the tribe and ride safe
@RichinHeart.2 күн бұрын
I’m not all in yet, learning. Tell me why you like yours?
@mrmurphy86092 күн бұрын
@@RichinHeart. well I’ll be very honest. Most of my friends that ride Harleys are kinda dicks about them. My buddy Steve said he wouldn’t let me ride his because it would ruin me for any other bike. My best friend from high school told me I wasn’t cool enough to ride a Harley. My first bike was a Suzuki, then Honda then Triumph but my touring Triumph got to heavy for me and I needed to down size or give up riding. My 2019 Scout Bobber (in white smoke) weighs about half what the Triumph did. After a test ride and feeling the toque that this has ( which is like none of my other ones) the Triumph would fly too but at 850 pounds it was time to downsize like I said. I am very very happy with my purchase. I get so many compliments and I swear it’s just about every time I’m out someone always says something about it .
@RichinHeart.2 күн бұрын
@@mrmurphy8609 that’s twisted, it’s metal, rubber and plastic. Crazy for people to get all snooty about it. Ride safe bro! ✌️
@arthur48183 күн бұрын
$695.00 document fee is bullcrap, I would never buy a bike from a dealer that has a document fee of $50.00 plus
@RichinHeart.2 күн бұрын
Yeah, interesting to see the process. My Fatboy I told them if they could get me out the door at 20k the deal was done, and it was. MSRP was 21,22 or so
@harryhowell56443 күн бұрын
Roadmaster my favorite Indian motorcycle. That and the persuit😊 paper on the windshield. Lol
@RichinHeart.2 күн бұрын
I saw a Challenger and a Chieftain on my ride today, both very happy with Indian.
@RichinHeart.2 күн бұрын
I was impressed
@genekelley75793 күн бұрын
🛑🛑 You were testing riding the Roadmaater, which is not comparable to a Street Glide. Take an Ultra Limited or a Ultra Road Glide for a ride. Now you are comparing “apples to apples”. 👍💯
@RichinHeart.2 күн бұрын
I don’t know about that, the wind is more on the Roadmaster than my Street glide and lighter. I didn’t get to open it up but it felt that my 110 Screaming Eagle had more power.
@genekelley75792 күн бұрын
@@RichinHeart. Do yourself a favor, and save yourself a new bike payment, by throwing the 117 Kit in your 110. I converted my 110 to 117. Bigger Pistons, Intake and Injector’s for about $4k. My bike outruns Milwaukee 8’s now. 💯
@RichinHeart.2 күн бұрын
My Fatboy has a M8 and lighter it would smoke my Street Glide. 4K ouch. I don’t know that I need more power, it does what I ask of it.
@MikesB123 күн бұрын
The engine noise on the retro looking bike was absolutely horrible, do all of their air cooled versions sound like that? And those switches and buttons all look so cheap and flimsy.
@RichinHeart.2 күн бұрын
That’s the only 110 I rode but it sounded bad to me. And I agree about the controls.
@MikesB123 күн бұрын
The engine noise on the retro looking bike was absolutely horrible, do all of their air cooled versions sound like that? And those switches and buttons all look so cheap and flimsy.
@RichinHeart.2 күн бұрын
That was the only 111 I rode so I can’t say but I agree the controls were not as nice as those on my Harleys IMHO
@joebieksha27663 күн бұрын
Let's not forget AMF years of Harley. I'm fortunate enough that I own a softail Deluxe, and A Indian cheif vintage. Both are 2015 models. I love em both. But I would say the Indian is a better ride. But a true comparison to my indian would be a Harley road king. I prefer the nostalgic looking bike and today not much in that style from either company that appeal to me today
@RichinHeart.2 күн бұрын
I was disappointed that the fender is fading, iconic Indian stuff there.
@user-ig4cv3hu7o3 күн бұрын
Just devalued bike . What A shame.that only herts you and your bike Harley does not care.
@RichinHeart.2 күн бұрын
I intended to keep the Street Glide the rest of my days and didn’t care about depreciation … until now.
@user-gh2ff3yn4j3 күн бұрын
Ride what you like.I ride a 2015 Chief Vintage.I wont say that I won't ever buy a Harley again.but maybe not.
@RichinHeart.2 күн бұрын
Time will tell. Ride safe ✌️
@Mike-e5h3 күн бұрын
Indian motorcycle company died in the early '50's. Polaris was founded around the same time and about 5 decades later purchased the rights to use "Indian". I've been riding for over 6 decades -currently ride a 2009 Heritage I purchased new. I remember thinking that if Polaris were to build there first "Indian" and with the model name "Frankenstein" I'd purchase one. They didn't so that was the end of that.
@RichinHeart.2 күн бұрын
Did they stop Indian production? Ride safe Mike ✌️
@Mike-e5h2 күн бұрын
@@RichinHeart. The history is well documented so I'm assuming you're questioning If I know...and I do know. Yes, Indian motorcycle company (originally Hendee) went bankrupt and stopped production. The first "Indian" prototype was made in 1901. All production stopped in 1953. Indian motorcycle company died of bankruptcy in 1953. After that...a mess of trying to make use of the name. Polaris has done a good job of milking the name.
@RichinHeart.2 күн бұрын
@@Mike-e5h I didn’t know that, I’ll research
@Mike-e5h2 күн бұрын
@@RichinHeart. I've been riding for over 6 decades. Currently ride a 2009 Heritage I purchased new. If you're test riding, I sure recommend checking out the Heritage. Just a great highway motorcycle IMO and I even prefer it over the Ultra Classic I had for long rides. I sure wouldn't want to miss out testing one out if I was shopping. I know it's all personal but I think that is a model one doesn't want to overlook. FWIW.
@RichinHeart.2 күн бұрын
Thank you but I’d have to see Harley do a 180
@kevingonyea3 күн бұрын
Rich, I have been riding Polaris built bikes since 1999, I still have and ride my 2003 Victory with 82,000 trouble free miles, I also have a 2021 Indian Roadmaster ( like the second bike you rode in the video), I am confident if you subjectively not emotionally compare the bikes you can make a good decision. I appreciate you are staying true to your principals, it is a damn shame H-D has adopted the Globalist Ideology (i.e. anti American) I am actually surprised so many Harley riders are accepting it.
@uwinsome2 күн бұрын
"Globalist ideology " ? Please explain how it is different from Polaris or Indian .
@kevingonyea2 күн бұрын
@@uwinsome German CEO ( the Taliban of sustainability), a board member tied to Bill Gates (globalist),promising to be 100% carbon neutral by 2035. Polaris has an American CEO, American board members and they have not taken an $89 million Government bond to build electric motorcycles like Harley just did. There are plenty of videos of Zeitz on KZbin telling you what he is going to do if you care to know.
@RichinHeart.2 күн бұрын
Comments have been interesting. From angry to indifferent.
@RichinHeart.2 күн бұрын
I have heard Polaris is funded by Vanguard and Blackrock and the future could be dark.
@RichinHeart.2 күн бұрын
All electric in the future, they just want to castrate all men.
@teewhy26023 күн бұрын
I just don't dig the Polaris bikes
@RichinHeart.3 күн бұрын
I’m learning.
@sluf19633 күн бұрын
Now go to a Harley dealer , ride a Heritage 114 , and enjoy the Old School nostalgia , and rolling artwork of a purified H-D , simple clean pure , and beautiful .cheers
@RichinHeart.3 күн бұрын
I wish I had my ‘07 Heritage back TBH
@sluf19633 күн бұрын
Yep , engine noise , the polaris thunder clunk of junk , rolling marbles , and clattering garbage throughout the whole spectrum of your riding experience . My 28 year old Evo sounds a hundred times better , just saying . I hope you stay with your Hog .
@RichinHeart.3 күн бұрын
Yeah, I can’t let the ‘16 CVO Street Glide go for cheap.
@Kash61613 күн бұрын
Lead rider, rides like a God damn pussy.😂... give it some and feel the smoothness and torque.. not a good test ride at all.. you got jibed that's for sure in the experience IndianMc gives... The Roadmaster is an awesome bike, compared to the smaller chief models.. Cheers for sharing
@RichinHeart.2 күн бұрын
Harley, when I bought my Fatboy just let me go and I could have gone anywhere I wanted. Rode about 10 miles in the cold with no windshield and said yes
@swolepatrol21393 күн бұрын
Sales guy doesn’t know his shit
@RichinHeart.3 күн бұрын
He was alright, nice guy
@danieledmonds999293 күн бұрын
Wow very good you explain me for fnfina i like and but one problem I see the mirror black and I like red not bad good ride and what you think 🤔
@RichinHeart.3 күн бұрын
Aftermarket has ya covered
@Elijah_Craig3 күн бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to post this, Rich. Looks like you were impressed with the Challenger. Now that you've had some time to think about it, where you impressed enough to trade in and swap out?
@RichinHeart.3 күн бұрын
I would have to sell mine myself, that’s too big of a hit. Trade in value was just curiosity.
@Mr.Gibbs9803 күн бұрын
🙂 very nice Rich in Heart
@RichinHeart.3 күн бұрын
Thank you Mr. Gibbs!
@sluf19633 күн бұрын
If your bike is a CVO , and you'd take 16K for it , your crazy . I wouldn't trade that bike even for 2 polaris junk heeps . You have a detachable tour pak , lost in your garage , wow , that is the best touring rig you could have in my opinion , except for a Heritage Classic , my all time favorite of all the Harley models . Just look at a polaris garbage barge , lay down next to it , yeah , no full frame , no way to slide your lift under it , to simply raise , and clean your wheels . Notice , the front , and rear frame section is aluminum , no thanks , not for me , nope , no way . Just saying . P.S. Indian closed its doors in 1953 , done . These bikes are not indians .
@RichinHeart.3 күн бұрын
Thanks for the info, the tour pack is behind a mountain of ‘70 ‘Cuda parts.
@sumterame3 күн бұрын
Hey brother. I’m not sure if you truly understand the meaning of “woke”. Woke simply means that you’re now aware of the rest of the world and how you’re perceived as a Black person. It means that you’re educating yourself on how minorities are being treated within our country! It’s more so a Black term that White people have no clue of what it means and are misusing the term at a high level. And yes, I am a Black veteran, from Georgia, who has done amazing things for OUR country. If you’re truly against being “woke” it inadvertently implies that you’re a racist.
@RalphMalone-mw1qo4 күн бұрын
The only problem I have with Harley is that they have learned how to take advantage of their loyal customers they need to focus on making bikes that are worth the price that they charge
@RichinHeart.4 күн бұрын
Yep
@JessicaSimonson19764 күн бұрын
The fact that people unbadged Harleys just because Harley is supporting its gay riders. I thought 80% of Harley riders were gay chaps, tassels, fringe, leather bondage gear, cute little hats....lol.
@RichinHeart.4 күн бұрын
Yeah … naw
@JessicaSimonson19764 күн бұрын
@@RichinHeart. So you might not be, but others may be closeted bears......just saying undercover being afraid to come out cause their buddies think he is a real man's man. So what's wrong with supporting those riders? Ever seen those HD riders with guyish looking girls. Definitely gay easier for them to give'em the screw if looks like a Rick and not a chick.
@RichinHeart.4 күн бұрын
Cracking me Up Jessica … Sad to say but good comedy has an element of truth.
@JessicaSimonson19764 күн бұрын
@@RichinHeart. I think there is always something to a Brotherhood or a brother's hood......whichever it is....lol😂😂😂😂
@Group_Anonymous4 күн бұрын
So true 🌈 I just purchased a 2024 Low Rider S
@KimberlyPlant-kf3bi4 күн бұрын
Ship them to Swab
@RichinHeart.4 күн бұрын
Swab?
@markh58925 күн бұрын
I’ve been riding Harley’s since the early 90’s. I’m on my 5th one which is a 16’ Heritage that I’ll be riding until I can’t swing a leg over it anymore. I traded in an 09’ Street Glide with 91,000 miles on it that I paid about $20k new for before the Bagger insanity started. The Indian’s although nice looking are obviously Harley knock-offs. I can’t trash them because I don’t own one to know better but all I’ll always ride a Harley. You know what they say……” If I have to explain why, you’ll never understand”
@williamwright15634 күн бұрын
Knockoffs? You mean like two wheels, fenders, saddlebags a tank like every motorcycle ever? Don’t be silly. Just got a 23.5 CVO RG with inverted forks, multiple drive modes, remote locking bags, multifunction display with Apple Carplay capability, full LEDs, TPMS and an electronically controlled windshield. My mistake, no windshield control. All that was on my ‘21 Indian. Three yrs ago. Who is copying whom? PS, my first HD was in 1969. You don’t need to explain anything. Don’t rightly know how many since and none were perfect, neither is the Indian but it’s slightly closer than HD. If all you eat is meat and potatoes, a taco can seem pretty zesty. Break out of your phone booth, there are more flavors out there than you might imagine. Being a brand lemming is no way to go through life.
@markh58924 күн бұрын
That’s a pretty bitter sounding reply there Mr. Wright and I’m not a brand lemming sir. If I could share pictures here, you’d see my Suzuki parked next to my Harley. You may have a handful of years on me but In my 50 years of riding, I’ve had just about every brand and style bike there is to ride and yes sir, I’m partial to Harley’s. I’ve only owned seven of them but what do I know? When Polaris killed the Victory line, I seem to recall a new line of Indian’s that popped up and they sure seemed to resemble Harley’s. Honestly, Mr. Wright, when they were coming out with their knock-offs with their big motors and all the goodies you mentioned, I’ll confess, I was pretty impressed and they got my attention. However, I just couldn’t warm up to them cuz I like my good ole’ meat & potatoes. Their sparse dealership network doesn’t work for me either where I live. The closest one to my home actually closed within a year of opening and the only other one is an 1 1/2 hour away. There’s a Harley dealership twenty minutes distance from my home that’s been open for 50 plus years so that also plays an important role in my preference. Barking at me when I didn’t say anything negative about Indian got my feathers a little rustled so I guess i just had to bark back. Ride safe and enjoy whatever you ride sir.
@williamwright15634 күн бұрын
@@markh5892 “Obvious Harley knock offs”, “if I have to explain…” Snotty is no way to go through life, either. Not bitter, just gets tedious after a while.
@RichinHeart.4 күн бұрын
I’ve owned 2 Yamahas, a Honda and 3 Harleys. I had a key ring with a Plymouth, Chevy and Ford keys on it. I’ll admit I always wanted a Harley and Indian might not be the answer but I test Rode 2 Indians and was impressed by the Roadmaster. Video at 7pm
@davidhill58823 сағат бұрын
@markh5892 do you wear a rainbow cape and high heels while riding it? that's what it feels like when I'm riding mine.. only get it out in the dark so Noone can see me on a woke harley
@heatingairservices87085 күн бұрын
Good to know I live in Covington Ga & never knew we had an Indian dealer so Ill look em up Thanks
@RichinHeart.4 күн бұрын
Awesome! Glad to know I informed someone. I like them, you can ride every model you desire. ✌️
@doughuntley29745 күн бұрын
A few years ago I considered the Yamaha Venture as well. I like Japanese quality and reliability plus I liked that it was an air-cooled V-twin with all the touring features. Fast forward to today I think I've seen maybe 2 of them on the road in 5 years, if that. If I'm not mistaken they no longer make it. It just never took off. I currently have 2 bikes, a 2020 Ultra Limited which I really like and a 2007 Honda VTX 1800. My Honda has just under 105,000 miles and has never had a problem. Hence my interest in Japanese models. Good luck with your decision.
@Keith-pf8qg4 күн бұрын
Agreed metric cruiser is the way to go
@RichinHeart.4 күн бұрын
The guy I met at the biker hangout said the same thing, under marketed, never took off. Looked great.
@RichinHeart.4 күн бұрын
I’m warming up to the idea
@ronwhite16425 күн бұрын
Indian dont have good service places yet and have a long ways to go still. But i do have hope for them
@RichinHeart.4 күн бұрын
Coming soon I bet. They will not be able to build them fast enough
@RamblinManMoto5 күн бұрын
As an Indian owner, and on my third Indian, I'm very happy with my bike overall. I wish the dealer network was larger but I love the bike. Most of the criticism comes from people that have never owned one and are so stuck on a brand...it is silly. I've owned a Scout, still own a Super Chief Limited, and a Springfield.
@RichinHeart.4 күн бұрын
I didn’t ride the Springfield, I have my test rides coming out at 7pm
@danieledmonds999295 күн бұрын
Nice bikers ❤
@RichinHeart.5 күн бұрын
Thank you Daniel!
@danieledmonds999295 күн бұрын
@@RichinHeart. glad you
@RichinHeart.3 күн бұрын
Nice group there in Warm Springs, Ga
@carlgriffith46605 күн бұрын
Smart move going to Indian. Harley is going down.
@RichinHeart.5 күн бұрын
Sure looks that way
@truthbetold-jq8iw5 күн бұрын
You have a beautiful motorcycle and don't worry about covering up the name, it just draws more attention. It's not the motorcycle or our fault the owners of Harley hired the woke board. The emblem with no words is the woke symbol.
@RichinHeart.5 күн бұрын
Drawing attention might be a good thing. Yeah, I feel betrayed.
@HDR206 күн бұрын
You might be better off selling your cvo,that was a low offer unless you have 60k plus miles on it
@RichinHeart.5 күн бұрын
It’s just under 25k miles and yeah, I would sell it myself. I thought it would be interesting to hear what they would offer or if they are accepting Harley trades … I’ve heard some won’t.
@RichinHeart.5 күн бұрын
Subscribe, I have test rides coming out Tuesday and an offer on my Fatboy
@Yamahog6 күн бұрын
Rip-off. Nuff said
@RichinHeart.6 күн бұрын
Indian isn’t worth the money? I saw a Yamaha Venture and it was sharp
@G_RAThbun6 күн бұрын
Thanks for the video, going to look at some soon, my self
@RichinHeart.6 күн бұрын
I hope you get the same dealer experience I did, very relaxed. I test rode 2 Indians, video out Tuesday. Subscribe!
@feline-n6b6 күн бұрын
drinking the trump koolaid
@RichinHeart.6 күн бұрын
Dude, I was right of Rush
@feline-n6b6 күн бұрын
woke doesn’t mean what you think..stop believing what a right wing blogger says who has never been on a motorcycle
@RichinHeart.6 күн бұрын
I didn’t learn of this from Starbuck but I appreciate his efforts.
@tommygunnzz12616 күн бұрын
No hate on indians but i could never give my HD up for one
@RichinHeart.6 күн бұрын
I test rode a couple and was impressed. I have a video on it coming out Tuesday.