Harley to the Indian Store

[@RamblinManMoto]

As an Indian owner, and on my third Indian, I'm very happy with my bike overall. I wish the dealer network was larger but I love the bike. Most of the criticism comes from people that have never owned one and are so stuck on a brand...it is silly. I've owned a Scout, still own a Super Chief Limited, and a Springfield.

[@RichInTheHeart]

I didn’t ride the Springfield, I have my test rides coming out at 7pm

[@richardsmith5738]

Nice bikes. I have the pleasure of owning both brands. Harley and Polaris/Victory/Indian. Two different animals for sure. Each with their individual strengths and weaknesses. In my experience, the Polaris brand was ahead in reliability and performance for a while. Harley was forced to catch up. I would buy the one that works best for ME. I personally don't give a rat's butt about politics or what other people like or don't like. That's just useless noise. Just my opinion.

[@RichInTheHeart]

I’ve seen comments that Polaris/Indian is woke and Robby Starbuck will be on them soon, my thoughts are to get the maximum money out of the Harleys, which probably means letting time pass

[@pistnbroke2]

​@@RichInTheHeartStarbucks has already broached the subject and ws in favour of IMC. But if this so called woke stuff is what worries people than everyone better have a good look at every other large company and their policies because you'll be surprised. But if you're worried about jobs being lost and manufacturing moving offshore, then by all means, stand up and make yourself heard. It can't hurt.

[@RichInTheHeart]

Like the old movie “Network” we all need to go to our windows and yell “I’m mad as Hell and I’m not gonna take it anymore!”

[@mark5862]

Yeah it's fine to not care about politics until you are the next one fired for having the wrong skin color.

[@RichInTheHeart]

@@mark5862 excellent point

[@joebieksha2766]

I have a 2015 Harley softail deluxe and a 2015 indian Chief classic. Both great bikes, but the indian gives you more from factory. And I think the Indian drives like a dream

[@RichInTheHeart]

I didn’t do a test ride, should have

[@Ten_Mil_Will]

Really? I didn't. A buddy and I rode our HD's to the Indian dealership, yesterday. I took both the Chieftain and the Challenger for a ride. I wanted to love the Challenger but just didn't. And the Chieftain just felt "crampy" (5'8" 200#).

[@RichInTheHeart]

They are Different. They impressed me. Went for a test ride today on a Chief and Chieftain… video next Tuesday

[@mikeskidmore6754]

@@RichInTheHeart The only Motorycle I have ever test ridden was the Indian FTR-1200 .. It rips and very stable .. A bit on the Heavy side for bikes in it's class. I never had my motorcycle endorsing before 2017 when I turned 56 years or so .

[@RichInTheHeart]

Ride safe Bro ✌️

[@clagadin71]

I almost got a Harley last year, but got shitty customer service. Went to 2 different dealerships, and they both shoved the most expensive bike on the floor down my throat. No matter how many times I said no, they kept forcing it. Went to Indian, and they gave me the service I expected from Harley. Got a 22 chieftain limited.

[@RichInTheHeart]

Yep, my experience at Indian was great.

[@allancaspers6471]

@@clagadin71 Yeah, Harley dealers 92% are bad. The Harley company puts out bad stuff. Remember the Twin Cam when it came out? Harley clam it's fix. The Harley breather bolts design is a joke. When rpm's goes up engine vacuum goes down and your air filter and side of engine side. Even m8 does that too.

[@jackbraddell8683]

@@clagadin71 You should have worn a LGBQT bandanda. Probably would have received a $5000 discount from the get go.

[@RichInTheHeart]

BIG WELCOME

[@chuckmatses6803]

Sorry, but the over the top popularity of the Harley baggers never ceases to amaze me. I look at the huge dashboard as a huge obstruction. Get that out of my way now. It's like a freakin snowmobile.

[@RichInTheHeart]

@@chuckmatses6803 I don’t see the “dash” as an obstruction. The Fatboy does feel more open. Unfounded snow machines are of little use here in Georgia

[@Txcowboy80]

I have an Indian Scout and love this thing around town and short trips. Grabbing a bagger next, I have had zero problems.

[@RichInTheHeart]

Thanks for that Tx, styling differences kinda shocked me but I think the Scout was my favorite

[@RichInTheHeart]

@@Txcowboy80 went for a test ride today on the Chieftain and the Chief, I was impressed. Video out next Tuesday.

[@myronmosley2167]

That salesman is terrible. He doesn’t seem to know very much about the models and he doesn’t seem very confident about what he’s saying.

[@RichInTheHeart]

@@myronmosley2167 they are a new store. They were friendly and all my questions were answered. I like the laid back vibe.

[@myronmosley2167]

@@RichInTheHeart that’s cool that they were chill. Which has been my experience at every Indian dealership I’ve been to. However, when engaging a possible buyer it definitely helps to be knowledgeable and confident about said knowledge about your product. Doesn’t mean you have to be overbearing and hovering like so many HD dealerships are. I’m just saying dude didn’t seem like he was very well read up on the bikes. I could be wrong, he could just be camera shy but that’s the impression I got from the short interaction you put on the video. Btw, I think you should definitely get one. I’m more of a Chief Darkhorse and Springfield Darkhorse kind of guy, but if I was looking to get a long distance touring bike, I’d be hard pressed to not drop a bag on the pursuit. I test road one at a demo day at Crockett Powersports in Chattanooga and it’s a sweet ride. It’s just more bike than I need and WAY out of my price range. 😂

[@RichInTheHeart]

The Pursuit has the frame mounted faring? I test rode the Super Scout and the Roadmaster, video drops at 7pm. I need to ride that and the Springfield.

[@19Trent69]

Great move to make.. after 14 HD's, I've gone to IndianMC.. Couldnt be happier with quality , performance and handling..

[@RichInTheHeart]

Yes, I’m learning that. I test rode 2 Indians and was impressed. Video on it coming out Tuesday.

[@19Trent69]

@RichinHeart. look forward to the video... I had a 2022 Pursuit Darkhorse premium, did 12000km in 6 months,,, then found a 2023 Cheiftain Elite, and wanted that.. The Cheiftain better suits me, and could not be happier 💯

[@RichInTheHeart]

Awesome ride on ✌️

[@rugersauer5424]

I was going to take mine to Indian but on ride over i remembered why i bought it ended up riding all day

[@RichInTheHeart]

That’s awesome. ✌️Ride safe Bro

[@toddmorris2353]

I traded my 2019 road glide in for a 2024 Pursuit Dark Horse and love it no regret at all the ride is absolutely amazing

[@RichInTheHeart]

I can imagine. Ride safe Todd✌️

[@markh5892]

I’ve been riding Harley’s since the early 90’s. I’m on my 5th one which is a 16’ Heritage that I’ll be riding until I can’t swing a leg over it anymore. I traded in an 09’ Street Glide with 91,000 miles on it that I paid about $20k new for before the Bagger insanity started. The Indian’s although nice looking are obviously Harley knock-offs. I can’t trash them because I don’t own one to know better but all I’ll always ride a Harley. You know what they say……” If I have to explain why, you’ll never understand”

[@williamwright1563]

Knockoffs? You mean like two wheels, fenders, saddlebags a tank like every motorcycle ever? Don’t be silly. Just got a 23.5 CVO RG with inverted forks, multiple drive modes, remote locking bags, multifunction display with Apple Carplay capability, full LEDs, TPMS and an electronically controlled windshield. My mistake, no windshield control. All that was on my ‘21 Indian. Three yrs ago. Who is copying whom? PS, my first HD was in 1969. You don’t need to explain anything. Don’t rightly know how many since and none were perfect, neither is the Indian but it’s slightly closer than HD. If all you eat is meat and potatoes, a taco can seem pretty zesty. Break out of your phone booth, there are more flavors out there than you might imagine. Being a brand lemming is no way to go through life.

[@markh5892]

That’s a pretty bitter sounding reply there Mr. Wright and I’m not a brand lemming sir. If I could share pictures here, you’d see my Suzuki parked next to my Harley. You may have a handful of years on me but In my 50 years of riding, I’ve had just about every brand and style bike there is to ride and yes sir, I’m partial to Harley’s. I’ve only owned seven of them but what do I know? When Polaris killed the Victory line, I seem to recall a new line of Indian’s that popped up and they sure seemed to resemble Harley’s. Honestly, Mr. Wright, when they were coming out with their knock-offs with their big motors and all the goodies you mentioned, I’ll confess, I was pretty impressed and they got my attention. However, I just couldn’t warm up to them cuz I like my good ole’ meat & potatoes. Their sparse dealership network doesn’t work for me either where I live. The closest one to my home actually closed within a year of opening and the only other one is an 1 1/2 hour away. There’s a Harley dealership twenty minutes distance from my home that’s been open for 50 plus years so that also plays an important role in my preference. Barking at me when I didn’t say anything negative about Indian got my feathers a little rustled so I guess i just had to bark back. Ride safe and enjoy whatever you ride sir.

[@williamwright1563]

@@markh5892 “Obvious Harley knock offs”, “if I have to explain…” Snotty is no way to go through life, either. Not bitter, just gets tedious after a while.

[@RichInTheHeart]

I’ve owned 2 Yamahas, a Honda and 3 Harleys. I had a key ring with a Plymouth, Chevy and Ford keys on it. I’ll admit I always wanted a Harley and Indian might not be the answer but I test Rode 2 Indians and was impressed by the Roadmaster. Video at 7pm

[@davidhill588]

@markh5892 do you wear a rainbow cape and high heels while riding it? that's what it feels like when I'm riding mine.. only get it out in the dark so Noone can see me on a woke harley

[@HitmanRideOn]

Definitely take that Challenger out for a ride before you purchase your Indian. I've owned mine since they came out and it's an amazing motorcycle. I originally owned a chieftain which is air cooled and it was an awesome motorcycle but just didn't have the punch that the Challenger brings to the street. Being liquid cooled it makes it a nice ride when you're down in Daytona and the traffic gets bad during bike week. I don't have to pull over to let my motorcycle cool down. Enjoy your new motorcycle no matter what you buy! Just get out there and ride!

[@RichInTheHeart]

Thank you for the information Hitman, Enjoy! ✌️

[@vmonk1474]

Last October I traded my ‘18 Road King for a ‘23 Pursuit. I had already been checking them out and comparing bikes. I haven’t looked back. I love the Pursuit.

[@RichInTheHeart]

I’m impressed

[@vmonk1474]

@@RichInTheHeart I don’t know if you ride 2-up or not, but my wife absolutely loves the comfort of the Pursuit. She said the same about the Roadmaster Classic too (the one with the valenced fender). I love the classic look of the Roadmaster, but the power and handling of the Pursuit won me over. That Fox monoshock that comes stock, you’ll never need to upgrade.

[@RichInTheHeart]

I test ride a super chief and a Chieftain Roadmaster today and I really liked the Chieftain. Video coming Tuesday. Subscribe.

[@RagnorLothbrook-f7e]

That’s a LIMITED edition Chieftan fully 6:37 loaded for only $29k HD cannot compete with that kind of pricing!!! As a current HD owner and a previous Indian owner, the service you get from Indian is SHIT!! When you’re there looking, they love you. After the sale, they give zero fcks about you My Harley dealerships treat me like family!!

[@RichInTheHeart]

I would say I’ve never had an issue with Harley service but the guy doing my trade in value on the Fatboy pointed out that my belt guard was bent. Must have been from my tire change. He said the tech didn’t want to tell on himself so just slapped it on bent.

[@randyhayden9006]

Are you using the Biker Gripper cell phone mount?

[@RichInTheHeart]

I don’t remember the name of it actually but the rubber is long gone and I replaced it with door insulation strips. Any reviews on the gripper?

[@randyhayden9006]

@@RichInTheHeart The Biker Gripper is available on the law abiding biker website but I bought mine from Amazon. $50 I think. Works fantastic!

[@RichInTheHeart]

@@randyhayden9006 that looks like the same manufacturer without his branding on it. It looks like a T logo where his is … I’m curious now.

[@randyhayden9006]

@@RichInTheHeart It is the same one. The amazon one is from the manufacturer so you eliminate the mark up.

[@RichInTheHeart]

I’ve gotten my money’s worth out of them for sure

[@BNatoAk]

To each their own. Good luck on your new bike and have fun brother!

[@RichInTheHeart]

Thanks, be safe ✌️

[@brianbertel3254]

Ride what you want. Last I looked we live in the USA all your personal preferences. HD and Indian both have nice bikes

[@RichInTheHeart]

True, to ignore it or to mourn the loss of an icon is a personal preference

[@davidhill588]

the two Indian shops I went to wouldn't even make me an offer. said they had too many harleys they've taken in and can't even sell them at auction

[@RichInTheHeart]

I expected that.

[@randomstuffwithjoe]

I have a 22 Chieftain Dark Horse. It's pretty sweet. Honestly, you can't go wrong with a Chieftain/Roadmaster or a Challenger/Pursuit. I had a difficult time choosing between the two.. and ultimately decided on the Chieftain based on the color choice. Good luck. I'll be interested to see what you decide in the future.

[@RichInTheHeart]

Pursuit is sweet

[@randomstuffwithjoe]

@@RichInTheHeart If the Pursuit came in the same color as my Chieftain, I probably would've chosen it over the Chieftain. But I'm pretty happy with my choice. I have some videos on my channel showing it off. Its a pretty sweet looking machine.

[@RichInTheHeart]

@randomstuffwithjoe thanks Joe, incoming Sub

[@heatingairservices8708]

Good to know I live in Covington Ga & never knew we had an Indian dealer so Ill look em up Thanks

[@RichInTheHeart]

Awesome! Glad to know I informed someone. I like them, you can ride every model you desire. ✌️

[@junitocrespo1641]

I would never trade a Harley for an Indian

[@RichInTheHeart]

‘Merica

[@Brn30826]

Traded my RGS two years ago for a Chieftain Limited. The suspension on Indians are far superior over HD. Absolutely love it!

[@RichInTheHeart]

@@Brn30826 I test rode a Chieftain and a Scout today. I purposely went over rough spots and found that to be true.

[@Brn30826]

@RichinHeart. I went as far as to spend several thousand dollars on 3 different aftermarket brands. They improved the stock ride, but still not near as comfortable as the stock Indian set up.

[@RichInTheHeart]

@@Brn30826 I test rode a Chieftain and a Chief today and I purposely went over broken up asphalt and I’ll have to agree with you. Low center of gravity made a HUGE difference

[@JoJoCruisinOn2s]

I have a 2023 Indian Challenger and loving it! I don’t have to buy windshield after windshield to get that perfect fit and ride!

[@RichInTheHeart]

I test rode the Chieftain today, enjoyed moving the windshield, very cool.

[@ChrisVenegas-z8z]

Love Indian Motorcycles. They ride better IMO than Harley and I have both. Where HD shines is the network of dealerships and aftermarket options. The Indian Challenger is what made HD step up their game with the new Roadglide.

[@RichInTheHeart]

Competition makes everything better.

[@dmedina6835]

Love my chieftain !!! Enjoy brother

[@RichInTheHeart]

Awesome! Thanks for the input, I think I’ll do a test ride.

[@grgygantz6760]

I see that Indian is phasing out the Indian head logo. Most Indian dealers don’t want Harleys , because the Harley dealer won’t give them anything for it.

[@RichInTheHeart]

@@grgygantz6760 it’s becoming a thing. I got offers on my Harleys, video Tuesday.

[@grgygantz6760]

@@RichInTheHeart remember about four years ago, living over in Port Orange. Indian dealer in Daytona Beach. During bike week he would rent a tractor trailer and literally fill it up with Harley trade-ins just dump them at the auction. He said out of all the bikes he took in. Only about 10 really good shape out of the whole tractor trailer. So those who Keith and put on the front line and just sell them for next to nothing.

[@RichInTheHeart]

@@grgygantz6760 crazy when you see behind the curtain

[@jamessouthworth1699]

My experience with Harleys is they look like they have nice fit and finish until you actually tear into them and work on them. Then you can't believe how sloppy the inside of it is. I like the Indian models but the only thing holding me back from getting one is I don't like throttle by wire.

[@kman-mi7su]

Shhhhh don't tell the truth, the fanboys get upset.

[@RichInTheHeart]

Something I didn’t know, thanks James.

[@jbradkilpatrick]

I think that the biggest thing for some people is not being part of the herd or the collective any longer. Some people just have to be part of the Harley Herd. But for people not like that, Indian Motorcycle makes a great product and I don’t think you can go wrong buying one.

[@RichInTheHeart]

I’ve been in a Harley crowd and not “in uniform” no Harley tattoos or leather or merch. I just enjoy the ride and people.

[@YoursInYeshua]

Dude, you already got THEE bike to have in that highly desirable twin cam! I traded my 2020 RKS for my 2015 SGS.

[@RichInTheHeart]

I know man. This isn’t easy.

[@rascalshobbies864]

Indian bikes are gorgeous

[@RichInTheHeart]

I agree, instruments were a bit odd to me but it’s my first look. I liked the photo of 1901 miles gets you free Merch thing.

[@jasonhoward7756]

I come from a harley family generations deep. Always fixed or built em. But when I was 16 I saw a dropped and stretched chieftain and it blew my mind it was different and beautiful, but always kept it to myself. But when I turned 38 (am 42 now) I got tired of rebuilding and decided to get a new bike. Went to harley first, knew what I wanted and how much to i wanted to pay. Came across a 2yr old custom Electra glide but salesman was very pushy trying to get me way out my price on a brand new bike I didn't want, got pissed and left. Went to indian bought a 2015 chieftain darkhorse. Love it rides way better than all the Harleys I've ridden. Have put a lot of miles on it. Only downside is aftermarket is almost nonexistent, unless you make/or have make parts.

[@RichInTheHeart]

I haven’t looked at aftermarket parts thanks Jason. I was impressed with the handling, on the Roadmaster on my first real curve I had to turn out of it a bit, was headed for the curb! It was much more nimble than my Street Glide or my Fatboy.

[@shaggyofwv]

I say ride whatever you like. I am a diehard Harley guy and love the bikes and the heritage of the company, but what works for me doesn’t work for a lot of people. Look at it this way, we are all a small minority as less than 3% of people are riders.

[@RichInTheHeart]

Truth. I’m just sick of this nonsense

[@doughuntley2974]

A few years ago I considered the Yamaha Venture as well. I like Japanese quality and reliability plus I liked that it was an air-cooled V-twin with all the touring features. Fast forward to today I think I've seen maybe 2 of them on the road in 5 years, if that. If I'm not mistaken they no longer make it. It just never took off. I currently have 2 bikes, a 2020 Ultra Limited which I really like and a 2007 Honda VTX 1800. My Honda has just under 105,000 miles and has never had a problem. Hence my interest in Japanese models. Good luck with your decision.

[@Keith-pf8qg]

Agreed metric cruiser is the way to go

[@RichInTheHeart]

The guy I met at the biker hangout said the same thing, under marketed, never took off. Looked great.

[@RichInTheHeart]

I’m warming up to the idea

[@MattieXMoto]

My recommendation is sell it privately. Dealer will never offer as much as a private sale. Just takes more time and you have to deal with tire kickers

[@RichInTheHeart]

Yeah, I just wanted to see where the market is, I’ve seen that some refuse to take Harley trades.

[@thexnewyorker7284]

Been riding harley D since 1990 . The only time i wont be riding a HARLEY is when im DEAD ! No issues with Indian though . Really nice bikes

[@RichInTheHeart]

Ride on ✌️

[@richardsveum8452]

If the economy doesn’t collapse in the next couple of months I am looking hard at a Chieftain dark horse in the spring.. wasn’t going to get another bike after my knee replacement but what the hell you only live once

[@RichInTheHeart]

Heck yeah Brother! Live life to its fullest. Ride safe ✌️

[@endofsociety]

The only gripe i have about indian is that the highway bars and heel toe shifter doesnt come standard on most of their bagger models. My 18 streetglide came standard with highway bars, heel toe shifter, and gps. I understand that its a preference but, you can always take the heel shifter off if you dont like it. With indian, you have to pay thousands more for an upgraded version to get those things and even so, have to pay an extra couple hundred bucks to get the heel toe shifter put on the standard bagger version. There arent that many aftermarket parts available for indian so you kinda have to buy from indian for the most part to customize your bike. Indians are beautiful, well balanced, comfortable bikes. Even their stock seats are better than harleys stock seats for the most part.

[@RichInTheHeart]

I didn’t think once about highway pegs, I’d be lost without them. The heel shifter I never use. Next trip out I’ll see if I should be using it.

[@tmothydingler4455]

Nice bikes no doubt. I'll stick with my Harleys. Knee jerk reactions often result in regrets later.

[@RichInTheHeart]

Truth. I’m in an information gathering phase.

[@mikeskidmore6754]

Sell your HD Retail not Whole sale. You only get whole sale prices trading in to a Dealer. Indian offers better quality and more value but cost almost as much as HD's cost. Also Indian Dealers Normally are a lot more friendly and less pushy. Also Indian Dealers usually have less overhead.

[@RichInTheHeart]

Yeah, I asked expecting them to say they were not taking trades and to see what they would offer. I have test rides coming up Tuesday, Subscribe.

[@mikeskidmore6754]

@@RichInTheHeart It never hurts to ask what they would pay for a Trade in. Normally they will offer a lower price on a new bike if you don't have a trade in. If you have a Trade in, they start with a higher price for the bike and offer you more $$$ for your trade in. You should always Negotiate a price with no trade in first.

[@RichInTheHeart]

@@mikeskidmore6754 yeah, this was just a first look.

[@truthbetold-jq8iw]

Wow, a dealer salesperson that was helpful and no bs.

[@RichInTheHeart]

It was refreshing

[@mrdude3540]

Indian all day….let’s go!

[@RichInTheHeart]

They impressed me. Went for a test ride today on a Scout and Chieftain, video next Tuesday

[@mrdude3540]

@@RichInTheHeart i’ve been riding motorcycles for about 20 years. I jumped on the Indian bandwagon couple years ago and do not regret it at all. I ride a 2021 challenger blacked out and I have never gotten stranded besides one time that I did get stranded going from Washington state to California, but that was because of a flat rear tire. Just put couple bacon strips in there and I was good to get home. Never leaked oil never overheating no electrical problems no mechanical problems. The only one thing I could say is that every once in a great while my GPS acts a lil funky when I’m out in the boonies, but that is to be expected with every GPS system on any motorcycle.

[@RichInTheHeart]

Thanks Dude. I can see myself on one. I didn’t ask to ride the Challenger but I will in time.

[@trikemike7291]

Nice video, my brother getting ready to check out the Grand Canyon. Keep the videos coming.

[@RichInTheHeart]

Thanks Mike, Do Zion Man, on my list.

[@jimyounger9490]

Congratulations. Ya did your part to help save some unfortunate children somewhere. Harley has become disgusting.

[@RichInTheHeart]

Sad times, Sad times indeed

[@tinmisuun]

When someone call out H-D models I am lost. Indian Motorcycle I know what they are talking about.

[@RichInTheHeart]

I was having trouble but I’m sleep deprived and it’s a hot ride over.

[@tmothydingler4455]

Dealer to allow $15K trade in value. resale value 20-25K. Go ahead and trade, that will show Harley who's Boss!

[@RichInTheHeart]

YEAH!

[@Hooijnbvn]

Keep it on a charger. Mines been a wiring issue nightmare.

[@RichInTheHeart]

Your Indian?

[@usmcvet0313]

I keep hearing this.

[@RichInTheHeart]

Always something

[@MrNew122]

Just a warning, the "air cooled" Indian engine gets EXTREMELY HOT!! It is not ideal for long distance, unless you install a heat shield.

[@RichInTheHeart]

My Harley is air cooled, I test rode today in 97° weather, felt the same.

[@Dynacologist]

​@@RichInTheHeartBless his heart, he has no clue about bike life

[@RichInTheHeart]

Educate me

[@MikesB12]

The Indian is a nice bike, but it’s owned by Polaris which already had a super successful motorcycle company (Victory) and dropped them literally overnight to keep the Indian name.I’ll stick with HD, they’re not going anywhere. And if you’re concerned about where HD manufactures parts, then don’t research where Polaris makes theirs…. The fit/finish and aftermarket of the Indian just isn’t that good yet and probably won’t ever be. Harley is the premier motorcycle company for a reason.

[@dccycler3554]

@@MikesB12 you have made a lot of assumptions in this post. “Indian is owned by Polaris and already had a super successful company (Victory)”. Think about that. If it was successful why would they drop the Victory line???? No one drops a successful company. Clearly if you had reviewed their financial statements which (were) likely online…you would have seen that the EXPENSES to run that product line exceeded REVENUES hence their need to make a product line shift. HD and Indian both make superior products…..and by the way, I own Indian and Harley right now…and love them both equally. Lastly, I just received a set of docking hardware that I purchased on HDs website and when it arrived….the box read “made in Pakistan”. -Sincerely yours, A finance guy.

[@RichInTheHeart]

Hope it continues to be

[@MikesB12]

@@dccycler3554 Well, finance guy. Victory was a very successful company that was great competition for the HD in terms of quality and performance. You ever think they thought Victory was too much competition for the beloved “Indian” name and needed to be out of the running? BTW, that information was given to me firsthand by some Indian representatives in Sturgis, 2016. They had a steady stream of Victory owners that were pissed about their motorcycle company being done away with. My point about the origin of parts is this… HD has been manufacturing overseas for 3 decades and Indian makes the same amount everywhere except the U.S. So why does Polaris get a pass and Harley criticized for it if they’re both claiming to be “American” made cycles?

[@michaelschmitzerle2587]

Harley can thank Indian for forcing them to make a better motorcycle. Not better engineered than Indian, just a better Harley-Davidson.

[@RichInTheHeart]

Thanks for educating me.

[@carlgriffith4660]

Smart move going to Indian. Harley is going down.

[@RichInTheHeart]

Sure looks that way

[@teecee2146]

FTR is styled after flat track racing bikes. FYI

[@RichInTheHeart]

I’ve since learned, not for me.

[@uwinsome]

They need to just have a section for the narrow-minded and one for the open-minded , problem solved ! Seperate entrances like the good ole days ... Got it 🎉

[@RichInTheHeart]

It’s funny that this is the left saying such things

[@simongilbert2704]

that salesman knew less than me ;;; --- the chief is a bigger scout ???? what ,,, and he says um a bit too often , but he was polite ;;

[@RichInTheHeart]

New dealership, everyone seemed a little green but friendly as they could be.

[@simongilbert2704]

@@RichInTheHeart ah , that explains '' the empty look '' in the shop , indian are getting better , but i still like the harleys [ air cooled ] ;;

[@RichInTheHeart]

Covington is a small town, I think it’s a good size for the market there

[@travelinben1966]

Like any dealer(motorcycle or car),they offer you squat on your trade,but want top dollar for what they're selling.Sell privately.---k them!😤

[@RichInTheHeart]

I’ve been involved in Car dealerships in my work so I know what’s going on. Just wanted to see what they would offer.

[@travelinben1966]

@@RichInTheHeart Then you know what I'm talking about.Good luck!

[@RichInTheHeart]

If I list them on Cycle Trader I’ll post it on my channel first.

[@BaronvonOldenBiker]

The aircooled models are the only ones in the line-up that still uses the single pin pushrod engine. I like these because they're still fairly simple and sound like a Harley Davidson.

[@creigmacc]

Water cooled Power Plus also has a single pin crank. Both set the connecting rods side by side and use standard babbit bearings.

[@RichInTheHeart]

Thanks for the knowledge. A lot to learn here.

[@snakeoil2182]

The firing orders are different. An Indian doesn't sound like a harley.

[@RichInTheHeart]

On 2 cylinders?

[@123pap]

If you are a true Harley rider you would never let all this political bullshit turn you into a sheep

[@jimyounger9490]

Dude , has nothing to do with politics. Kids lives are not political. I rode Harley since 91 and I say f them now. Any parent would feel the same. You must not be a parent.

[@123pap]

@@jimyounger9490 I have 3 kids and 9 grandkids I'm an American not a sheep

[@123pap]

@@jimyounger9490 and I've been riding since 1967

[@jimyounger9490]

@@123pap so you don’t care about any of your little ones going to school or wherever and having pervert men dressed like freaky women reading books to them ?? To each his own. I think it’s disgusting. And you are right though on one point , it has become American behavior. Everyman for himself. Sucks to be you and etc. Are you sure you even know what this is about , or truly don’t care ?? Or do but approve. Happy for ya.

[@RichInTheHeart]

Jim has it covered pretty well. I AM a true Harley rider, rode my Fat boy to the Indian store today. They impressed me. Went for a test ride today on a Scout and Chieftain video next Tuesday

[@RedBeardJoe-1]

Go Indian, drop wOKE rAINBOW hARLEY

[@RichInTheHeart]

Went for a test ride today on a Scout and Chieftain video next Tuesday

[@CherylLesley-q9i]

Vanguard and BlackRock own Majority shares of Polaris/Indian and they are the two main entities pushing the woke agenda so best of luck

[@RichInTheHeart]

Oh my. We are like Salmon swimming up a torrent.

[@MarcusTurner-b5p]

Nice video keep up the good work

[@RichInTheHeart]

Thank you Marcus! I’m trying.

[@bruceyung70]

1 ancient to another ancient.

[@RichInTheHeart]

Merica!

[@Manonymous108]

Why?

[@RichInTheHeart]

Harley going Woke tripped my trigger, I’m done

[@dee9568]

Keep your bike and get over it.

[@michaelblew6019]

All these Harleys being traded in will be shipped overseas for a nice profit,,Harley still wins,,,,,,Lowes went woke,are you going to tear your house down

[@RichInTheHeart]

Heck Yeah!

[@d.f.9064]

Don't do it right now. "Buy low, sell high." Don't jump on a bandwagon.

[@RichInTheHeart]

Yeah, not giving them away

[@michaelangelo4147]

I like the elite in the full bagger

[@RichInTheHeart]

It’s nice

[@mikethebike6825]

If you go japanese you can have 2 for the same price as 1.

[@RichInTheHeart]

I will consider them, I just saw a Yamaha Venture for the first time and was impressed

[@Keith-pf8qg]

@@RichInTheHeartdid you look at a Honda Goldwing?

[@RichInTheHeart]

@@Keith-pf8qg I haven’t yet but I’d like a test ride. Always been a fan

[@RichInTheHeart]

@@Keith-pf8qg I test rode 2 Indians, video 7pm eastern Tuesday.

[@joeshmoe-rl7bk]

...shovels forever

[@RichInTheHeart]

Preach!

[@oscark.880]

Polarus / Indian is woke too

[@RichInTheHeart]

Did ya have to say it … jk, yeah it seems everything is going to hell.

[@arthurnava4518]

🤮

[@Hellbentbiker]

Yup. They all are. Indian, Honda, Kawasaki, Yamaha, Suzuki, BMW, Triumph. It’s impossible to avoid unfortunately.

[@RichInTheHeart]

Even the Japanese?

[@ronwhite1642]

Indian dont have good service places yet and have a long ways to go still. But i do have hope for them

[@RichInTheHeart]

Coming soon I bet. They will not be able to build them fast enough

[@HDR20]

You might be better off selling your cvo,that was a low offer unless you have 60k plus miles on it

[@RichInTheHeart]

It’s just under 25k miles and yeah, I would sell it myself. I thought it would be interesting to hear what they would offer or if they are accepting Harley trades … I’ve heard some won’t.

[@RichInTheHeart]

Subscribe, I have test rides coming out Tuesday and an offer on my Fatboy

[@G_RAThbun]

Thanks for the video, going to look at some soon, my self

[@RichInTheHeart]

I hope you get the same dealer experience I did, very relaxed. I test rode 2 Indians, video out Tuesday. Subscribe!

[@heathwest3718]

Your bike sounds great!

[@RichInTheHeart]

Thanks Heath, Full Vance and Hines 4.5 “high output”

[@heathwest3718]

@RichinHeart. I'm shocked! Traditionally, I'm not a V&H fan but they do sound very good. I run the Rinehart xtreme true duals in 4" on my 15 flxhs they have a great tone just on the quieter side. The Rinehart factory is less than an hour from my house, so I support the home team.

[@RichInTheHeart]

@@heathwest3718 awesome, I have Rinehart’s on my ‘18 Fatboy and they sound great. I have a sound off video on both. Subscribe?

[@davidparks1369]

People are ignorant.

[@RichInTheHeart]

Yes we are

[@petrkarv]

Dude sells Indian motorcycle for a living or is he going to school and this is part time work? Know your products man.

[@RichInTheHeart]

He did well, the dealership hasn’t been open long. I liked them all

[@nbowling10trio]

Ftr, flat track racer. What he talking bout?😂

[@RichInTheHeart]

Yeah, people do stunts kinda threw me.

[@mikeskidmore6754]

#1380 I would have never guess over 1,000# Wow I am in Schock .

[@RichInTheHeart]

Yeah, they said it was 900+ but the Indian website says 1300+

[@cameroncook3863]

Hey did you hear about what Indian is going to do next year !!!! Your gonna be going to Kawasaki for your repairs . Indian / Kawasaki T shirts

[@RichInTheHeart]

Whaaat?

[@cameroncook3863]

@@RichInTheHeart 🤣🤣🤣 Kidding

[@RichInTheHeart]

@@cameroncook3863 at this point nothing is too far fetched

[@bullboss7698]

1380 lbs. ??? That can't be right.

[@RichInTheHeart]

Yes, I got bad information. I corrected it in an early comment 909lbs is what Indian says

[@strongbear4509]

ok, im halfway through the video and your sales guy is killing me. there is so much more he could and should be talking about.

[@RichInTheHeart]

He was green but nice. Answered all my questions.

[@ZZ-topp]

Traitor

[@RichInTheHeart]

Ouch

[@Playtime-e1p]

I’ll keep riding my 23RG I’m not getting into corporate politics.

[@RichInTheHeart]

Ride safe ✌️

[@RichInTheHeart]

RedtickJJ From your lofty position, can you see any “woke” in me? I’d like to remove any infection.

[@RichInTheHeart]

@@RedTickJJ just having a little fun.

[@RichInTheHeart]

@@RedTickJJ do you ride ?

[@RichInTheHeart]

@@RedTickJJ dude, been trippin’ nice!

[@hfreakhilz]

Indian may not withstand the way you down shift gears

[@RichInTheHeart]

I like the burbles

[@TheRonnie34567]

Nice bike, but I will stick with Harley

[@RichInTheHeart]

It’s tough to let go, I’ll give you that.

[@Gigidailylifevlog]

Nice

[@RichInTheHeart]

Thanks

[@jackbraddell8683]

Get the 122 hp model

[@RichInTheHeart]

I rode the Chief with the 111 And the 116 on the Chieftain. Definitely liked the 116 better.

[@usmcvet0313]

@@RichInTheHeartThe Challenger is on another level of power.

[@RichInTheHeart]

I’ll swing a leg over one. I have a test ride video coming up Tuesday, Super Chief and Roadmaster … Subscribe?

[@swolepatrol2139]

Sales guy doesn’t know his shit

[@RichInTheHeart]

He was alright, nice guy

[@Dailyroutinelanetaurus]

Safe drive

[@RichInTheHeart]

Thank you and thank you for watching!

[@Kevin-ne3tl]

Thanks, but no thanks. I'll keep my "analog" Dyna and Sporty. Since when did "bikers" need an "infotainment" system? How about keep your eyes on the road? That's the dumbest sheet I've ever seen.

[@RichInTheHeart]

I like the simplicity of my Fatboy and the options on my CVO Street Glide. Best of both worlds

[@DonGoldstein-b7q]

Indian Motorcycles are beautiful , high tech and high quality. They are extremely well balanced and handle like a sport bike. You get more for your money with Indian then Harley. 🇺🇸

[@RichInTheHeart]

I was shocked

[@RichInTheHeart]

I was shocked

[@craigerickson-z9q]

Don't give away a bird in your hand for 2 in the bush. You know your Harley inside out. Buy a new bike is like starting all over again. Just saying.

[@RichInTheHeart]

I’m moving slowly, no hurry

[@BADBONES1959]

MY GRANDFATHER RODE A REAL INDIAN, I WILL NEVER BUY A REPRODUCTION INDIAN OVER MY HARLEY

[@RichInTheHeart]

I have never looked closely at an Indian. So you are saying corners have been cut?

[@aussie1546]

Just yacking.... Indian is Indian, Harley is Harley. There is no reproduction, just new Era

[@RichInTheHeart]

Oi

[@teecee2146]

@@BADBONES1959 you’re missing out 🤷🏽

[@teecee2146]

@@RichInTheHeart my 2016 Indian Chief Vintage is now 8 years old and looks and rides like new. I do keep up with preventative maintenance and keep it very clean.

[@randystevens570]

They are ugly bikes. They look like a victory with Indian name on them.

[@RichInTheHeart]

I can’t see much of my bike while riding … except the instruments or dash, which I wasn’t crazy about.

[@KimberlyPlant-kf3bi]

Ship them to Swab

[@RichInTheHeart]

Swab?

[@michaeltipton1919]

Indian will be next😆

[@RichInTheHeart]

I hope you are wrong

[@michaelodwyer2815]

Go woke, upset the Trumpers 😂😂😂

[@RichInTheHeart]

Or… patriots

[@uwinsome]

​@@RichInTheHeart Yes, woke patriots ! Upset the trumpers 😢

[@RichInTheHeart]

@@uwinsome woke Patriots?

[@michaelodwyer2815]

​@RichinHeart. Anyone can be patriotic!!! It doesn’t mean you have to be a racist, homophobic, hateful fool!!! Surely everyone should have the right to live as they want, in the land of the free!!!!

[@RichInTheHeart]

I’ve never asked the sexual orientation of anyone I’ve met out riding, male or female. DEI is all those things.

[@Yamahog]

Rip-off. Nuff said

[@RichInTheHeart]

Indian isn’t worth the money? I saw a Yamaha Venture and it was sharp

[@JohnDoe-bi4ho]

Just remember people Indian also went and woke for a time

[@RichInTheHeart]

Time will tell

[@Hellbentbiker]

They are Still doing it. They just took it off their website.

[@RichInTheHeart]

Yeah, it doesn’t look good.

[@samdown1914]

Like any sane person is going trust polaris 😂......

[@RichInTheHeart]

Why not? Seriously, I didn’t know Polaris owned Indian a week ago.

[@samdown1914]

@RichinHeart. because the parts are made even cheaper than harleys, reliability is horrendous! And when something better comes along, they will drop you like a hot brick....ask any victory owner how they feel about polaris!

[@RichInTheHeart]

@@samdown1914 thanks for the input, learning.exe

[@jocoloco1320]

Trade that Pride Glide in on a better machine!!!

[@RichInTheHeart]

Seriously considering it

[@brianirons3958]

😂😂😂 ✌🏾

[@RichInTheHeart]

✌️

[@tommygunnzz1261]

No hate on indians but i could never give my HD up for one

[@RichInTheHeart]

I test rode a couple and was impressed. I have a video on it coming out Tuesday.

[@thelastrebelshow1627]

Not an Indian motorcycle by any stretch of the imagination

[@RichInTheHeart]

Something I’ve learned here in the comments. Thanks!

[@MackXJ]

So what the hell do we call those H-D during the AMF years of the '69 - '81.. AMF H-D Bikes??? Come on bro stop being ignorant, these are still Indians and still American as Polaris is an American company that happens to know how to own and manage a brand and let them do their own thing. Mind you I own a 2k22 Indian Springfield and have a Polaris manufacturing plant where I live and their a great company!

[@RichInTheHeart]

I’m learning a lot here TBO, I appreciate all the info from you guys!

[@ironroad5549]

BS HD is mostly made in China with dei employees in US love my Indian im ex Harley owner 10 times.

[@rogerledlow4970]

Just as overpriced and not as good.

[@RichInTheHeart]

Educate me on quality?