I think the T line is amazing

I never heard a theory that US was behind the under sea gas line explosions. Where you got your intel?

The number of models they have is downright confusing.

While I do think that Brompton became to woke, I think they would have been better served if they designed about 18-inch wheels that could mount Big Apple tires with fenders, like Birdy.

My local bike dealer that sells bromptons and also brompton clone titanium frames just came out with aceoffix aluminum copy of this t line including even the carbon fiber fork. Not sure how aluminum holds vs titanium frame. About 650usd then you can build your own bike with your choice of wheelset etc. I’m not a fan of the t line design. I know owners and the common complaint is the flexing stem. Something weird in the design. funny you mention the kick scooter. I’m actually using that now to get the metro because it’s rainy season in Singapore and bromptons rust too easy so it sits stored. I still think price is a factor for brompton. I notice the local marketplace having more used one for sale. Ideally ideally people keep their brompton for life and it’s small to store and it’s there when you need it. But! It’s too expensive for a sitting depreciating asset so people just sell off and I tell you it’ll be harder to pick up cycling as a recreation once you sold off your own bike.

you are very poorly informed about gocycle, itgey are overpriced, all bespoke and allfar to expensive rxpenses - rim failures, gear box failure, motor failure, battery failure, panier failure…

The straight carbon forks are hideous! If they cannot make a satisfactory titanium or aluminum fork, just use steel, the weight penalty would be minimal.

Brompton said they created the G-line having the feed back from consumers ok , they certainly didn’t talk with the same people I did being seven different countries with Brompton clubs and bike shops in those countries, a broken record comes to mind but not one but all said a belt drive system would not only increase sales but would open up the market for more female riders to buy one , every man who was asked why their wives don’t own a Brompton same answer irrespective which country the question was asked = they would buy one if it was a belt drive because they don’t like the chain drive, ironically simple is not in the Brompton vocabulary.

Excellent analysis. Out of concern for such an iconic company, I believe I will try to send this to whoever is available to receive messages at Brompton.

You stated that you think belts cannot last as long as chains? Been reading that belts actually do last longer than bicycle chain. Belts even work well on largest motorcycles! High strength carbon fiber is positioned by "plastic." Carbon fiber provides very good strength. Most fascinating videos on the Internet! Love them!

I watch your videos with appreciation and interest, then often think I wonder what your thoughts are on some folding small wheeled bikes that you haven’t mentioned before to my recollection. How about the Airnimal Rhino with full suspension or the all electric Gocycle.

Pro drive is a work of art

Very good the Brompton conversion seems to be the best one with the apple tyres. Great video thanks, take care .

Eek. I thought I was the only one thinking brompton marketing was too woke? I think they are trying to grab the young market when most brompton people are middle age men 😂😂 Young people can’t afford these things. All the environment talk and it doesn’t matter if city’s infrastructure can’t handle bikes. I always felt all these brands should have been lobbying politicians when they had the chance. Anyway it is what it is

Only personally trike-capable handicapper here now. However, Brompton you need to wake up before you self-destroy your market lead!

Never buy British 🙈

How is the slack of the belt taken up when folded? I remember there was one guy trying to sell a belt driven trifold. But it was a loose when folded and seemed unfinished

Will has definitely screwed up and has obviously listened to the dark side of the force or should it really be called woke force , running around like the characters in the film it’s a mad mad mad mad world obviously the original version with Spencer Tracy , do you think will will ever see the other side of the force or having no belt he will continue with his trousers around his ankles , feel the force of the belt will .

Keep peddling Brompton, you will make it.

Why does everyone else see the future in belt drives except Brompton, if they don’t get different people in Brompton they won’t survive, crazy but true unfortunately.

Sit-on jewelry that would be So much Fun for sight-seeing!!!! Watched again.

The first bike on the list was the most impressive. Wow, what a speed demon and built without compromise, but I also liked the white bicycle at 1:11. Against the white wall, it almost looked invisible.

That’s beautiful

Speaking of upgradability, the deal-breaker for me with Brompton is the ridiculous drivetrain on the affordable versions. 3 speed IGH + a 2 speed derailleur? You have to spend big bucks to both buy a 6 speed and then upgrade. With Terns, you get a standard Shimano derailleur drivetrain that is cheaply upgradeable. That with the affordably upgradable 20" wheel setup, pushes me to the Tern. Terns are more regular bikes that take regular bike parts, as opposed to the specialized (expensive & harder to source in the US) parts of the Brompton. Since I don't commute anymore, I currently am upgrading the cheapest double folding 26" Tern Eclipse and the hinge is rock solid (and it's not spring operated). Cheap, high-end 26" MTB wheels are plentiful since the general demise of the 26" MTB wheel, and, as I said, cheap high end 10 speed drivetrain upgrades also abound on eBay. This thing rides like a regular bike and folds enough for my purposes. Love it! Might go for a BYB someday if space becomes a concern.

The best Hitler rant YET! 45" rims and a "Beautiful Picture of President Zelensky", A perfect comic take on how the mind of marketing 'Spiniculators' works.

6:48 that bike is not riding on sand. Ive tried it and you just sink. They probably had some boards covered in a little sand.

I love doing that kind of stuff with my brompton

هناك تااثير في قياده الدراجه الهواءيه محمل على جهه من البدن

يتتبقى تقنيه مكمله ضروره جدا للدراجه الحديثه الهواءيه المستنسخه لوعلم اي مهندس لم يكون هناك ارهاق بل استمرار مسار هل يشرب حليب لا

New CEO? He has been the CEO for 17 years and Brompton has averaged 20% growth per annum in that period. Grew from 35k bikes pee year in 2018 to 90k+in last financial year.....

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just been watching the fairing for number 58 moulton which I built as a private entry for the festival of human power held in Milton Keynes UK. The bike is a Moulton AM 7 racing in a round the houses event held in August 1985 (August 31 & September 1) at the central shopping center car park of Milton Keynes & sponsored by Zapple ( an apple drink ) The rider is Nicky Dibble aged 16 and a schoolboy of Maidstone in Kent who rode in 2 events winning cups & prize money in both. I had to build an oven with an electric radiator and blow formed several bubbles as an experiment then trimmed them to fit a light tubular frame to connect to the existing front carrier mountings on the frame of the bike by 2 bolts. The fairing and Nicky performed well hence the podium positions. Alex Moulton was present with a factory prepared entry and rider but invited Nicky to ride his machine on the second day of the event based on his performance on the first day . This fairing is still in my shed 40years later, where it was built along with other 2 wheel transport experimental machines. The fairing does provide improved aerodynamics/ streamlining from the front, acts as a sail with wind from the rear and minimal side wind effect as it is very short in length. ( no effect on the steering as it is connected to the frame not the handlebars) . It was built as a touring screen rather than a racing screen but seemed to performed well in both Clive Fletcher, Maidstone , Great Britain, UK. I wonder who posted the photograph, I thought I was the only one with a photographic record of my fairing, no Iphones, internet, emails in those days, just cameras & film.

Personally, I don't accept much of the analysis and criticism of Brompton's strategy and management in this video. Brompton is all about careful, thoughtful, ingenious design, and quality manufacturing, with pretty robust testing of their bikes and components. People choose to pay that extra for a Brompton rather than a generic copy because they know that the Brompton will easily last them 20 years, not fall apart after two years, and will hold its resale value better. Granted, there are other decent folding bike manufacturers such as Birdy and Dahon, but they fill slightly different niches. Brompton and other folding bike manufacturers have relied on commuters as a major type of customer - multi-mode travel on the way to the office. But hey, didn't we just have a pandemic and, in many offices, in many countries, hybrid working or even working from home most of the week is now acceptable. Therefore, for a typical customer of this type, there simply might not be the need to spend money on a folding bike to make the journey faster/nicer, because there are now maybe only two journeys to the office per week, rather than five. Therefore, Brompton's management's decision to release the G-Line seems very wise. They are tapping into a new customer base - including younger riders - people who want a bike that could do for an occasional, multi-mode commute, but can be thrown in the boot of a car or taken onto the train into the countryside. These might be existing 16" Brompton owners or perhaps those trying a Brompton for the first time. Actually, it can be a business-savvy move to innovate and invest in new design and manufacturing at a time when traditional sales are declining and the original customer needs are changing. Obviously, I hope that Brompton (and Birdy and Dahon) succeed, as the world is a better place for us having their bikes to choose from. Unless everyone gets sick of hybrid working or is forced back into the office, it's likely these manufacturers will all need to adapt at least slightly. **Brompton, if you are reading this, I have been a happy UK owner of a C-line for the last 9 months. I am also an experienced mountain biker, so would be keen to test your new G-Line, to see where it lands between my C-line and my hardtail mountain bike, in terms of ride feel and transport to trail.

Excellent video! 2 questions for you. 1] How do you fit a Birdy in airplane luggage size limits? 2] How do you fit a Birdy under your table at a restaurant?

Oh man thanks for this "episode 2", I had a good laugh x)

2:56 😂😂😂

It’s sad but the company is going down fast as Andrew Richie slips away from the limelight. A front suspension would have been fantastic and even the 11 speed alfine a better choice. Am seriously considering a birdy for the next purchase. Such a shame really as the brompton fold is the superior fold. Birdy with 18 inch and a sealed gear system like the rohloff hub would be wonderful. If only birdy made an electric version- this would be a game changer

If walls could talk - wonder what the stories would be. 👍

This would be funnier if sadly it wasn’t true , why bother looking what others are doing in the bike industry with electronic shifters and belt drives when we can create a bigger Brompton that it can still fold but weighs too much , the person who thought about back engineering the Alfine hub so it could fit in the original design frame and could create a belt drive with bigger tyres also part of the range has been actually locked in a bunker for blasphemy = we have no room for common sense ideas in this company.

I knew from your previous videos that you know nothing about bikes, now I'm finding out you also know nothing about business! 🤣

They seem intent on punishing existing customers. I looked for the 12 speed upgrade kit for the P/T line and saw it listed for $1,100 at a bike shop! For an extra $50, you can have an entire A-line bike! Buying a new 12 speed P-line is only $300 more than the 4-speed! Really makes existing 4 speed owners (before 12 speed was option) look like chumps! 😮

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That's bullshit. You have absolutely no clue how business works. Just so you know, Brompton isn’t in the hands of shareholders and doesn’t need to make billions every year.

They're not. They've had a rough year with everyone else in the bike business, but were still in the black. They're still writing down the investment in the T Line. They just invested a ton of money in the G Line. And though it's delayed, they've invested a lot of money in their new factory. They'll be fine. What a ridiculous clickbait headline.

Titanium is not softer than steel.

You're right! 16" wheels with thicker tires and e-drive in the backwheel or pendix drive wil do the job. Unfortunately it's almost the only comfortable folding bike which fits through 55cm deckhatch

They tried to improve something, that by function alone, didn't really need improving and charge a lot more money for it. They seem to be following modern marketing methods of charging what they can get for it and not what something it worth. It's a bike for commuting, that's the whole point.

People wages have not increased and the cost of living will not encourage to afford it.

People love to buy, but the price is ridiculous and this will be the downfall.

They've just had a massive upscale, new factory in the works, completely new bike design, the first major change since they started. Although there may be a downturn, I'm confident that the majority of profits have gone into development which will benefit them moving forwards. I don't think this is an issue, they're to gold standard for practical folding bikes.