1.62 was really an 'interim' update, meaning a bug fix, Insta360 was made aware of a bug in 1080p recording in PureVideo mode that had weird color artifacts and why 1.62 was released about 2 weeks after 1.60. I did however noticed a 'very' marginal tweak in the Leica NAT profile, a lot were complaining it was too 'dark/contrasty' and I think did went up a notch, I could be wrong but if you pixel peep the two samples, you'll notice a slight 'more exposed' footage on the right especially when you see the tree leaves. ;)

If you're doing any low light, then Ace Pro, the GO 3/3s are great cameras but not great in low light or night, that's where the Ace Pro comes in with PureVideo and the larger sensor. As for firmware for Ace Pro, we will likely see one more before Ace Pro 2 launches in late October ;)

@@uncleyap69 oh hell, as I've mention in my video since day one of the ace pro problems, this camera is not without flaws, NO camera is. Here's my argument, as a 1st gen action camera class, it has very little flaws compared to 4 or 12 generation competitors, and let's be honest, in some features it exceeds the competitors. It's funny ppl are so hard on new companies with 1st gen devices as opposed to companies that's had more than enough devices over the years to resolve chronic issues or are we so used to those problems that we simply just ignore and sweep them under the carpet hoping no one would notice anymore, let's discuss about the term 'bias' 😉 NO camera is without flaws, I take a device that gives ME a good overall experience with innovative features, don't care what brand it is and right now it's the Ace Pro, A4 is a strong second. GoPro is a joke and looks like 13 is even a bigger joke from what I've seen with other users on here, creators AND none career content creators.Sad, because I was a big fan of them since the first GoPro camera.

@@DutchDiver i usually shoot 4K60, standard color then aquacolor in insta360 studio if needed. Underwater color science with this camera is excellent. It was a shallow dive so colours were still decent with enough light.

@@baron2022ph yah it's a nice stick and weird that they didn't have the 1/4 inch tripod hole which is pretty standard these days. I'm wondering if it's because the battery in the handle or maybe it's just the weight of the stick

@@WiljanWiljan thank you!

@@leowilkinson2854 yea I forgot that one, I was in a hurry to do the review 🤣

Yes, it should be, because some where complaining that the 1.0.60 was 'too' contrasty, so they tweaked it a bit in 1.0.62 ;) good, you see it too.

@@hugomisagna1657 Hola señor , me podrías ayudar si sabes cómo podría en las fotos coger primer plano enfocado con la insta360 ace pro . Sabes si hay que ponerle lente o algo .saludos .

​@@diegogonzalezmendoza3257no se puede enfocar un 1r plano y que quede desenfadado atrás.

Avata 2 is a awesome drone. I didn't have it up long enough to completely drain the battery but with any extra payload on a drone, the props will work harder and battery drain will be faster. My Avata 2 was sweating holding all that weight in it's belly, the X4 is not a light camera by any means 🤣

Mine was warm after that night test but didn't notice that it was 'hotter' but I'm temperature challenged when it comes to devices, I rely on the camera to tell me if it's overheated lol

I don't typically record via phone but I'll try it and see if I have those issues.

@@MiyagisRant Can you try it and inform me here, if it's true I'm waiting for you and thank you 👏🏻👏🏻

​@@miskarizki4226las pruebas del cual trata el Sr @MiyagisRant son de acePro y no le veo el sentido que se consulte por grabaciones con teléfonos móviles.

​@@MiyagisRantvisualmente en la pantalla de un smarphone Samsung no alcanzo a ver diferencia.

@@miskarizki4226 I just did a quick test, when using my phone in camera live mode, if my phone is in portrait and the camera is in landscape, I get landscape view on my phone but when I turn my camera to portrait mode, the phone live view will also go to full portrait mode as it should. But once I start recording it locks to the position of my camera on my phone as well, ie. if I start recording with the camera in a portrait position and my phone if in a portrait position will be full screen, if I turn the camera to landscape position, my phone display will also turn but it will be sideways full screen. That's seems normal to me.

Was that where the 1080p problem was? in PureVideo mode? yikes, I just updated my other Ace Pro with the new firmware lol I won't have time to do it as I leave for my trip tomorrow night. I guess if someone is having issues with 1.0.60 they might as well update it to 1.0.62, what have they got to lose ;)

@@MiyagisRant yes the green tint at 1080p purevideo mode at 1.0.6. Hoping it's gone with update 1.0.62 🤓

@@DJDLS I guess you might as well upgrade it, no point sticking with the firmware that has that issue, nothing to lose. Dang, if I knew that was the exact issue, I would have done the sample lol I knew Insta360 was aware of the problem, I'm sure they fixed it as this was a quick fw update since the last.

@@MiyagisRant i rolled back mine to 1.0.52 as you suggested. No problems so far. Not in a rush to update. Test when you can mate. Even if it's just a reply here. The green tint wont show while recording. Only when played back.

@@DJDLS We are the stage of technology where firmware updates are so easy to do especially with this camera, it literally takes me 2 minutes to change firmware not like the old days where it was actually a complex process. I'm a big fan of always updating to the latest firmware because I use to work in R&D it's usually for every 1 glitch, there were 12 fixes ;) You could literally do it in 3 minutes, try it and if it still there flash it back lol

I don't think any camera can get away from that especially action cameras. DJI and GoPros are the same if not worse. But there is a difference with the two firmwares, if there's going to be any sort of 'glare' I prefer the newer firmware, look very closely at all the street lamps where the main bulb is, on the old firmware it's blown out with very little definition where the new firmware there's more detail and in some cases you can actually see the detail of the bulb.. yes, there's a glare, not much you can do here other then in post. The problem with 'blown' out effects is that there's literally like a big circular 'cloud' around the bulb, which will be harder to eliminate in post as for just the 'light sabre' effect you're talking about, for me, I can easily fix that, much much harder to fix a blown out cloud ;)

@@MiyagisRant - how do you fix the light saber? I bought the Ace last year specifically for night video and I'm very happy with it. I know it'll get better and better. it's going to be a great day when action cameras are really good in night settings.

@@johnnysjumps When I say fix, I mean reduce. It's next to impossible to remove lens flares in video footage due to the amount of frames in a single video. Not like photos where it's very easy to do. To remove any type of glare/reflections etc. you have to use a pretty programs like Premiere or Davinci Resolve, I use Davinci myself and you have to get into using trackers combined with masking, it's a hugely time consuming and complex task. You can try and use color grading by 'reducing' that glare/light saber but you will never get rid of it completely. Unfortunately this is norm for action cameras and in a lot of point and shoot cameras as well shooting in very low light. I much prefer the light saber effect then the huge 'blob' of cloudy whatever from the older firmware, some might prefer that, I can't see why.

ssshhhh... don't tell anyone lol

@@yazanberlin0307 that's the nice thing about social media, you can just hit the skip button, thanks for wasting YOUR time to let me know 😉

Hi, for the price difference personally I don't think it's worth going with the Ace, the larger sensor size in the Ace Pro is worth the difference if you do a lot of low light to night recording as I do. I'm going to assume that you're a novice to action cameras so I'll start there... First, find out exactly where and how you are going to use this camera, most times this alone will trim down your choices. The top 3 cameras meaning DJI, GoPro and Ace Pro are all good cameras with their strengths and weaknesses and prices are pretty much the same among them give or take a few bucks.... Second, assess your own skills when it comes to how well you can work with post videos/photos, meaning do you have any color grading/correction skills, do you have the software to do those things and how patient are you to do post edits. We see tons of videos out there saying this or that camera is crap etc. Don't listen to them and the ones who had one bad experience doesn't make the camera a bad camera. I've sold cameras for over 20 years, MOST problems are user errors and ALL cameras have their problems, there is no such thing as the perfect device, it doesn't exist. You'll hear jargons like '10 bit' from many reviewers and because this camera doesn't have this that it's a terrible camera, that makes me laugh, don't listen to them because the average user has no clue what 10 bit is and even if they do, they wouldn't know how to utilize that feature anyways. Too many reviewers out there try to 'advise' when they shouldn't. It's how THEY use it and what THEY think a camera should be, everyone uses their camera differently like everything else in this world, cars, appliances etc etc. Watch lots of videos, there's literally hundreds of them with all the brands and do some critical thinking on your own. Sometimes the camera with the most advance features isn't what some need, some just need to turn it on, record it and get good results right out of the camera without having to muck around with it. This is where the Ace Pro in my honest opinion comes in. It just does a good job right out of the camera, it's not the best quality in certain areas (but really marginal differences) but as an overall camera in terms of quality, user experience, it's at the top of my list. Hope this helps ;)

@@MiyagisRant Ace cost 300 dollars, Ace pro cost 536 dollars in india, go pro 10 also cost 300 dollars, cost converted from Indian rupees to dollar.

@@SprayJoD__77 wow, that's a huge difference, here in Canada it's only about $165 difference. There are quite a few differences between the two. If that's too much I would consider the DJI action 4 because of the bigger sensor for low light, not sure what your price is on that one.

@@MiyagisRant DJI action 4 cost 400 dollars in India.

I am not a professional guy I just want to start recording video of cycling and trekking and travel videos and my budget is 300 to 350 dollars

@@karlar3674 AHH never thought of that, cool!

@@MiyagisRant Yes sea anemones look electric under a UV light! I don't have access to a 3D printer. Any way I can buy the 67mm adapter from you? Is 67mm a standard size for macro lenses/diopters?

Yah I like the profiles, at least we have a couple more options to play with!

Like what stuff?

@@samuraix8903 yup, works with pretty much all the insta360 cameras

I think there's still a ton of room for them to tweak PureVideo, at least it's getting there and it will never be perfect just because of lens limitation. I can't imagine the amount of work the processor is doing to achieve what it can now, still the best in low light among the top 3. DJI A4 with it's same size sensor can't even touch it, I have the A4 and the jitters are even worse and more often especially when there's motion, the processor in the A4 just can't keep up, hope they will change that in the A5. Love to see a 1 inch sensor with combined with Ace Pro's 5 nm and quad bayer...maybe we'll see that in Ace Pro 2, anniversary date is coming up ;) Yah, that's the nice thing about firmware you can choose to update or not. This imo wasn't a 'huge' update, there was actually suppose to be more from what I've heard but I think they are holding back to prepare for the two big anticipated launches from GP and DJI. ;)

@MiyagisRant I really don't think they have any more performance to squeeze out of this sensor and lens combo for low light. I think the next big improvements will be getting the sensor maybe to 1 inch at f1.8 and autofocus. cell phones have already proven this combo well and the autofocus won't have much work with how big the focal plane is at focal lengths wider than 16mm.

@@robertconrad6802 I don't know, I talk to their tech guys often. Even with a new gen 2, we will still see quite a bit from this camera. Insta360 has consistently been surprising me with what they push out of their devices, I bet they have a few more tricks up their sleeves ;) Heck, look at DJI A3, we never thought they were going to push 10 bit out of that camera and they did it last minute just before A4 launched. Also, Insta360 is working with some pretty crazy hardware in this camera, there are still some unknowns with what they can do with this 5 nm and the Quad Bayer sensor, which btw, was a sensor Sony will be using in their new mirrorless full frame DSLRs. One of the reasons the Ace Pro is putting some pretty impressive footage especially in low light/night. Of which, neither big companies like GoPro and DJI can come close to, many have tried to compare it and still has not been able to make it as good as the Ace Pro coming out of the camera without post, companies that's had 12 generations and 4 generations of action cameras. Do a search on Bayer Quad technology, it's insane stuff and it's the future. I don't compare phones with these things, phones are great in a close proximity range but once you surpass that limited range, it will start to choke. The lens on phones are tiny and can only do so much, it's gotten better but glass is still glass.

Oh geez, I haven't shot in 1080 in ages. I'll give it a try and see, but you're the first I've heard of this. Is there any reason why you're shooting 1080p in PureVideo mode? It's probably the worse resolution to shoot in low light conditions.

@@MiyagisRant i do longform recordings so i choose 1080p. I hope they address this soon, if not i will be forced to do 2.7k which is not ideal for my current laptop. Will wait for your test results!

@@MiyagisRant btw it won't show during recording. Only when you olay it back.

@@DJDLS Ah gotcha, are you in the Ace Pro group, someone just mentioned this not sure if it's you about the green tinge in 1080p mode, and Insta360 had responded they are aware of this issue only in 1080p using PureVideo after the last update, they are working on the fix for next firmware update.

@@MiyagisRant I'm not in that group. Glad they are aware, hoping for a fix from them asap. Thanks!

@@Andy.Garcia I didn't notice worse but yes the jitters are still there but I'm finding not as often, could be just me and/or the sample.

It seems to be working fine with Ace Pro, it's really the only one that can handle a heavier payload. The Ace Pro is probably the heaviest of all the 3 big cameras. I don't have the mic adapter as I use the DJI Mic2 via Bluetooth and it works well. Tbh, I would put any more weight on that Ace Pro on the gimbal.

@@MiyagisRant Thanks for the reply. I have a little plug-in mic I use, mostly when cycling, but I think I'm going to buy the DJI Mic2 anyway, so that'll be fine.

@@BooLee01 yah I love the DJI mic2, I hate things sticking out of my camera, bulk and the fact that it's now not water or drop proof is not attractive to me lol the Mic2 quality is surprisingly good for Bluetooth.

I'm sure the gimbal is 'water resistant' as in light rain pretty much the same with all the other gimbals out there. Drop that in deep snow, not sure about that ;)

@@MiyagisRant Got it. Thanks again for the replies.

I will try to do one but they are pretty noticeable, the Leica Vivid colors are much more vibrant then the Leica Natural as they are intended for.

Yah, the P3 is a great camera but it's apples to oranges comparison. Bigger sensor and the P3 is not an 'action' camera due to it's non waterproof/drop proof nature. Also, here, the P3 is also twice the price of the Ace Pro. Also, if you want a lot of the videos for the Pocket 3, although it's excellent quality close up, the distance quality is where it will be not as good as flagship devices such as GoPros, DJI Action and Ace Pro. Again, both are great cameras and their purposes.

Here in Canada you can get them at Amazon or Aliexpress, I got mine at AliExpress. It's the aMagisn brand, just be aware that they say it's 'waterproof', they aren't, there's been reported leaks with those replacements when submersed for a period of time. I carry mine around just for backup for impact and splash protection, if you're underwater, still use a dive housing.

You are correct, I mentioned in the sample that it is a bit too dark, one notch up would probably be good.

@@MiyagisRantHow to adjust the setting one notch up in the existed preset option ?

@@tommyli8726 I meant for Insta360 to tweak the Leica NAT, for them to 'lighten' that profile a notch, I've suggested it to their team so we might see it tweak on the next firmware. You can kind of tweak it yourself by playing with the EV settings in the video mode, that will help with the excessive darkness in certain areas ;)

@@wargor yes me too, Leica NAT needs to go down one notch I think. I've sent them my request about this when I did the video.

Yah, going to be an interesting year for launches, GP13 and A5, wonder what Insta360 has up their sleeve, we are coming up to Ace Pro's anniversary and by trend there's always a new model out ;)

@@MiyagisRant yes that's why it will interesting followed by Insta360.

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There will always be 'problems' when it comes to night shooting with any camera. The amount of processing power it requires in real time to push out of this small camera this kind of quality without any post is incredible. Why DJI and GP still can't touch this, closest is the DJI with the same size sensor but the problem with DJI A4 is even with a big sensor, it doesn't have the processor to back it up hopefully we will see that in the A5, GP can't even come close, even after hours of post it still doesn't compare, I've seen it. There are subtle differences in this sample but I wanted to do a handheld sample. In my first video where it's more stationary on the dash, the differences were night and day, pun intended ;). But yah, I've been searching for a low light camera that gives usable footage for a good couple of years now because I shoot quite a bit in low light and sometimes at night, there's 'nothing' out there, Ace Pro is the closest animal. Ace Pro is setting the standard for a whole new shooting environment, although not perfect but I think there's more room to tweak. Like I always say, action doesn't stop when the sun goes down ;) A good example, look at the sample 4K night videos shot on the Sony Alpha 9, it suffers with the same 'jitters/vibrations' in some areas just like the Ace Pro but that's a $5000 camera and who knows how much the lens on that sample costed lol.

Yah they are but less frequent on my sample here and the first one in the car. This is a tough sample as it's handheld but I wanted to do it that way, handheld videos are never pretty at night especially without a gimbal. I would love to try this on a action camera gimbal and do the same test, I think it would greatly improve the footage and fix those 'jitters'. Yes, I took Guinness for a walk after, just a short one as it was getting late ;)