Agreed. Used it multi times. Mixed bag. 50/50 works. Of the 50% that it worked, about 40% of them, it holds 1-2yrs then it needs replacement
@scoobtoober2975Күн бұрын
I'm in the middle of my change out. Virgin here. Old one was 5/8, new one is 3/4. I'm scared but this has helped a bunch. So basically, roll it out flat as you go, then go little by little. My outdoor unit is close to the hole. I have a bender that i may use sparingly but not full 90 degs. It's a tight space for sure. Cheers or do you say hang loose
@SurfBrosHVACКүн бұрын
Peace and love my dude
@scoobtoober29755 сағат бұрын
@@SurfBrosHVAC I just ran my line set yesterday. My lovely wife helped. Definitely two man job. Then i was being matcho trying to hand bend 3/4. The opposite direction it was coiled. NOPE. kinked fast,, my first time for sure. Cut it off and pushed out some more line. Then used my ratchet bender. That is mandatory for 3/4 for this example of copper, not usa made for sure. Not bad stuff but it wants to kink easy, is that normal for this size. the 3/8 they sent is very ncie, says taiwan made. You video was very helpful, inspiring, great tips. I rolled it on flat ground a little, fed a little, tied the two lines together, out a tight hole 7 feet in a dark chase. the unit is so close to the wall, i had to pipe bend pretty tight. Time to solder, stay brite, purge, vac and charge. Peace
@scoobtoober2975Күн бұрын
A neighbors AC has the white stuff, and it's a few years old maybe 3 or 4. it looks like someone hit it with a blow torch and it's eaten away, vaporized. Now i know why. The line set in it is very corroded. VERY. blue/green chunks. Thanks for the tips. My set has the highly tear able black stuff on it. Spongy/soft and very thick.
@eddiegomez3628Күн бұрын
Just came across this same type of furnace ealier this year. From what I can tell from the video, it's probably the same model. I tried fixing it because the heater didn't work anymore. Now that I know that its been recalled, I am going to condemn it. Liked the video. 👍
@SurfBrosHVACКүн бұрын
It's recalled in California if it was from the 80s/90s. They still are made I think cause I see newer ones every once in a while made by Ducane
@eddiegomez3628Күн бұрын
@@SurfBrosHVAC Oh yeah sorry, I am from San Diego, CA. The Model Number I came across was HCC 075 ND4RX from Premier Furnace Company. Old. Anyways Yeah. Thanks for the information.
@SurfBrosHVAC23 сағат бұрын
Who you work for?
@eddiegomez362812 сағат бұрын
@@SurfBrosHVAC That was a side job that I did. But I work for LC Heating & Air.
@kobie4238Күн бұрын
I use it only on old clapped out units if the custy wants it to go maybe “one more summer”. Other than that I dont like it really. Id rather just find the leak and fix it but thats not always possible.
@Baad.Dad.Күн бұрын
If it’s an old system r22 and customer is on a budget I’ll give it as an option to get them through the summer. And if it doesn’t work like most the time there is a visual for the customer and an easy leak find. Usually line set etc is replaced anyway on change out. But why waste $500-1000 and just get the new system With warranty blah blah. But they already add it to vehicles supposedly and I heard companies are or may start sending hvac units with it already in the system. As some companies with major contacts new homeBuilds are getting empty units and leaking evaps from factory
@deancobasky2 күн бұрын
well said i have used it to for a band aide situation until a replacement couple times mixed feelings on it great review red you summed it up well done! great video
@bluesteel482 күн бұрын
When my Trane system evaporator coil was leaking at 10 years old some sort of sealant / conditioner was added. System is now in its 18th season and still running perfectly. Never added another ounce of 410a. Hope I didn’t just jinx it ! 😱
@SurfBrosHVAC2 күн бұрын
You a Nu Calgon employee?
@bluesteel48Күн бұрын
@@SurfBrosHVAC No
@Richard-zz2cb2 күн бұрын
Haha I visited California from North Carolina a few weeks ago and couldn’t help to notice how different the HVAC systems are in California. Noticed exposed ductwork on top of residential houses lol y’all have a lot of rooftop package units for residential properties. In North Carolina package units for residential properties are always on the ground, we have a lot of Goodman and Trane in my area. We have a lot of cheap builders who make absolute flex duct monsters in the attic
@SurfBrosHVAC2 күн бұрын
We have very few rooftop package units in residential in San Diego. They exist but not that common unless you go pretty far inland. I started in AZ where about one third of residential systems sit on the roof.
@edwindudoussat12792 күн бұрын
The newer type products do work quite well. And they do not clog or gum up the system. But it will not work on a Crack in the line. It must be a hole. Leaks on the end of the coil where the line go through the end plate or most likely a Crack. So leak stop does not do well there. Leaks in the middle of the coil are most likely a hole. And this does much better there.
@SurfBrosHVAC2 күн бұрын
Yeah I think it used to say on the packaging that this was the case but I could not find this info written anywhere on it. I was going to include this in the video but I didn't know if I was remembering wrong. I think the way they make it seem so effective is a little misleading to the end consumer of the product.
@leealtmansr.38112 күн бұрын
I have used it as a last resort, and if the unit is out of warranty. 50% success rate is my experience.
@SurfBrosHVAC2 күн бұрын
My 50% is just people who I haven't heard from in the short term. Long term it's hard to say if it's really "stopping" the leak in it's entirety
@myHVAClife2 күн бұрын
Problem is when you have to return for another sealed system repair on that same unit in the future. Say you have to come back to replace the compressor. Well when you recover the system, you’re not gonna get all that stuff out. And once the system is open to the atmosphere residual sealant in the system will start to harden and you’re gonna have restriction problems. Have seen it happen multiple times. It is a last resort option on an older unit.
@SurfBrosHVAC2 күн бұрын
Honestly I think that's why this is mainly marketed to residential
@LilyRoseElectric2 күн бұрын
It's great for finding the leak.. come back in few days after injection and hit it with a true u.v. light and it will show you if have leak and it's location 🎉 🤙🌴🤙🌴🤙🎊
@s550wulf92 күн бұрын
Complete and utter garbage product
@paulystark28902 күн бұрын
Worked for me with a small pin hole in the evap coil. But lost the compressor 3 months later with an awful bearing noise. Related? Maybe! Also would you want this stuff in your recovery tank when you’re working on other customers units? If a one and done for yourself it’s ok, but for a tech, hmmm.
@rv10flyer842 күн бұрын
I use the non-dyed sealant and it worked on 1-1.5 lb/yr leaks. Anything larger, don’t waste your time and customers money. It never gummed up anything.
@YTsux24-72 күн бұрын
My thoughts? After using this product, I had some of it leak out of the dispenser onto the service valve and the cardboard box it came in. I let it sit exposed to the air for several minutes, and none of it hardened. Not even a sign of a thin skin layer of hardening on the product.
@sheldon81152 күн бұрын
I have tried it a few times and it did work
@AustinAirCo2 күн бұрын
The hardest part is knowing the unit / system in question has a bonafide leak, not just a leak due to improper service practices like tight service caps / not plastic caps either. I used some of this years ago and it really did nothing to seal. I can't remember which brand it was. I have a rental house that I own and that unit is from a time period when I used to live there. It's R22 Freon unit that is very efficient even at today's standards one of those 2 compressor style units. The problem with this particular unit is keeping the E-coil from leaking I've replaced the coil 3 times since about 2008 when it was installed new. About 9 months ago I took out the sniffer and verified the indoor coil is yet again leaking. So I installed another leak sealer, not the one you mentioned here though. Then about 3 months ago when I checked the unit I took out the sniffer and could not detect any leak at the indoor coil like I had prevously. The leak in this instance was very small leak. Maybe 3-4 lbs and this unit probably holds around 18-20 lbs of R22. 18 SEER 2 compressor unit. I have another customer I put some in to his system, but no verification if the unit is leaking / the service caps were loose at the time I serviced the equipment. Improper service practices because people are more inclined to shop cheap than do anything right. That said: Refrigerant leaks are real.
@AaronPowellvox2 күн бұрын
I like the dye but I’m not a fan of the kind with the sealant in it. It can gum up the system pretty easily. Especially with a txv. I have used it when a customer asked for it. The dye is awesome though. You can have a recovery tank partially filled with virgin 410 and some dye in it and use part of it to fill a leaking system then just come back later with the UV light or when they call when it’s not cooling. It’s great for those very hard to find leaks.
@SurfBrosHVAC2 күн бұрын
Yep. Just stains concrete. Learned that lesson the hard way
@AaronPowellvox2 күн бұрын
@@SurfBrosHVAC yeah. You have to be super careful when taking a system out. I ruined someone’s carpet one time a long time ago. The dye leaked out of the coil as I was removing it from the attic.
@jonhvac2 күн бұрын
Its just a money making scam for both the tech/company and the sealant manufacturer IMHO. If it was so great condensing units would come pre-charged with the stuff. The leak sealant industrial complex lol. Im not convinced your unit is not leaking, need check it on a warmer day.
@SurfBrosHVAC2 күн бұрын
I agree. I actually edited out a part of me saying exactly the same thing you just mentioned. I was kinda talking about why not just put these in on install but I dunno it seems wild that if it was that effective it wouldn’t be more pushed. It would be more widely adopted by now if it was highly effective. We have a post summer follow up with this customer I’ll make a video at the end of summer marking 1 year
@SurfBrosHVAC2 күн бұрын
I already know a bunch of people have negative opinions of this stuff. I just wanted to provide an objective resource to help people making an informed decision if they're trying to decide whether to use leak sealant, or not. Let me know what you guys think of this stuff. Garbage or legitimate product?
@dkinfishing2 күн бұрын
I think if a system has a small leak and the system is 10 years or older then why not give it a try if the customer wants to?
@SurfBrosHVAC2 күн бұрын
Yeah for me I bring it up but try to dissuade them explaining there are generally better ways to approach it. If it's at a certain age and the customer is already throwing money at it though then it's not necessarily a bad gamble.
@RRpaniaguajrHVAC3 күн бұрын
Looks good, I do like those units have installed about 9 of them and no real issues even with the deep south humidity they work
@SurfBrosHVAC2 күн бұрын
These are my current favorite system. I like everything about them except how much they cost
@alexibarra51393 күн бұрын
When I can’t find a leak to save my life and it’s a micro leak. I nitro charge system to 450psi. And literally rinse the coil down with water with water hose. Coat the coil with running water. You will find it. If not it’s in the coil somewhere call it a day get a new one..
@SurfBrosHVAC3 күн бұрын
Same
@marccrane48303 күн бұрын
You can use a tube that's small enogh to get near your ear and the other end attached to a metal coat hanger and you can hear any leak even if you can not fell it.
@SurfBrosHVAC3 күн бұрын
I like this one I’m gonna try it
@Straycurrent3 күн бұрын
Great idea Haven't tried that one before.
@AaronPowellvox3 күн бұрын
We call them slab coils. We have them a lot here.
@SurfBrosHVAC3 күн бұрын
I'm learning new things
@AaronPowellvox3 күн бұрын
@@SurfBrosHVAC they’re a real pain. The only time I use them new is when I’m only replacing an existing slab coil. People put those dedicated horizontal furnaces above drop ceilings here back in the day too. Those are real fun to get out without messing up the ceiling.
@rjv14153 күн бұрын
This new mini split crap are throw aways. Mitsubishi trash, parts expensive and hard to get. Like most 17 seer and above are screwing the consumers in the long run.
@AaronPowellvox3 күн бұрын
I mean, I haven’t seen any reason to agree with you. I’ve been installing high efficiency equipment most of my career. As long as it was put in properly it usually lasts a long time.
@rjv14153 күн бұрын
@@AaronPowellvox Guess my service work is on the beach areas, which will wear any units out. 50 years in the trade and seen a lot of crazy things come to the market.
@Carnedelmercado3 күн бұрын
Looks good, is the air handler 120v or 240v ?
@SurfBrosHVAC3 күн бұрын
Indoor unit is powered by the communication wire. So technically 240V but it does not need it's own circuit.
@Carnedelmercado3 күн бұрын
@@SurfBrosHVAC just to make sure, so it is powered by the outside unit? Does the Mitsubishi have temp sensors to place in different areas of the home like the ecobee?
@SurfBrosHVAC3 күн бұрын
Exactly. I have not personally done any sensors but I think they have them. You can program the thermostat to either take the temperature at the return (in the unit) or the thermostat. So you could really mount it anywhere in the home you want cause you can program it to be taking return air temp and display that on the stat. Adding additional sensors I'm not 100%. It's produced by Honeywell is my understanding
@LilyRoseElectric3 күн бұрын
Great job 👏... Do you like the wireless 🛜 thermostat...have you had any issues
@SurfBrosHVAC3 күн бұрын
We've had no issues to date
@deancobasky3 күн бұрын
nice job red and the crew a good ole crawler got to love it !
@jstarks30883 күн бұрын
Nice one. In my part of the country we have a bunch of homes from the 1800’s , short ceilings in the basement. Not uncommon for us to see slab evap coils because of this. Usually hooked up to lo boy oil furnaces. I’ve even seen two on the same system installed on opposite plenum branches.
@HughesManHVAC3 күн бұрын
Nice job!
@SurfBrosHVAC3 күн бұрын
Finally got another install edited for your viewing pleasure
@joshuaseaton70023 күн бұрын
Really dislike the MHK2. Use the 24 volt adapter and put a standard thermostat on those. The customer will be much happier.
@SurfBrosHVAC3 күн бұрын
Really? We've had no complaint's thus far about the MHK2 and we've installed about 10 of them so far. Never had a callback for one and never had a customer complaint. I usually follow up with customers on installs like this about a month later to check how they like the UI
@joshuaseaton70022 күн бұрын
@@SurfBrosHVAC I guess where you are, you aren't installing heat strips. The staging of the heat strips is a joke with the MHK2 so I always use a 24 volt thermostat. I live in a colder climate.
@l-cw6vk4 күн бұрын
Have you considered installing discharge air deflector to make sure it doesn't cycle the air
@SurfBrosHVAC4 күн бұрын
In some areas where it gets much hotter that would be recommended. Here in San Diego the climate is so forgiving that we basically never have to worry about stuff like this. Typical summer highs do not exceed 90 degrees in the middle of the summer.
@marcelocortez185 күн бұрын
Sorry this happened to u, I know the feeling of gettin tools stolen in front of yr home, like u said u feel violated. Keep yr head up ✌️
@nolarising5045 күн бұрын
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@theprofessor55845 күн бұрын
Good practice to just replace schraeders anyway takes 5 mins if you are already nitrogen testing you need to pull vacuum anyway, also I look at evap coil pressure tests, I go near the maximum amount per manufacturer, you will hear the hissing
@garza76765 күн бұрын
I started just pressuring the system to 50 lbs at first . I used to ramp it up to 250 and that just killed my nitrogen tanks . Very annoying when a tank runs out and you need run to the supply house for refills .
@SurfBrosHVAC5 күн бұрын
I started carrying two tanks
@adambarrett32966 күн бұрын
Just don't touch those fresh metal shavings because they are hot! 😂
@krishuntzeroable6 күн бұрын
Found one today on a 20T unit using my D58 pretty quickly.
@SurfBrosHVAC6 күн бұрын
I have the 82 and love it but I think I need to send it in to Fieldpiece cause it stopped reading right recently
@funnycatvideos54906 күн бұрын
A common Issue is The Unit is low on refrigerant. Numerous companies just come out and recharge systems without ever searching for, isolating and repairing The leak. They would rather change Out the entire system then fix the problem. Need more training for HVAC technicians On how to identify and fix leaks.
@SurfBrosHVAC6 күн бұрын
Check out the video we posted yesterday
@rolo11136 күн бұрын
Your a dork!
@richlikeg37226 күн бұрын
I use the leak seal with dye, problem is I came back and I could not find any dye and my heated diode leak detector could not find anything. I had to pump the unit back two lbs and told customer I’ll see them next year. I could had spend more time in the 125 degree attic but I can only do so much😅
@SurfBrosHVAC6 күн бұрын
The leak seal + dye combo stuff I'm not in love with on the dye aspect. I have put the stuff in and been back on systems two years later that are not low so I do think the leak sealant part of the product has some effectiveness to it. A company I worked for had us stock a separate dye that worked really really well. Problem is that it stains everything it touches, but that's why it's so effective, it doesn't just go away like the stuff mixed in with the sealant. I got it on my hands and my hands would be neon yellow for weeks. Pants were ruined. Stained some concrete at a customer's home. Great for finding leaks but horrible to deal with tbh. It was this stuff: www.zoro.com/tracerline-universal-dye-cartridges-tp9870-p6/i/G7995252/?campaignid=19979164297&productid=G7995252&v=&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwjeuyBhBuEiwAJ3vuobQfLeY5Z5OKs7jnzY7qkFYtlsFTums32E6pNGfMxwOvt-mbsvAUThoCDW4QAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
@SurfBrosHVAC6 күн бұрын
Actually I don't know if that is the same brand. This is the kit we stocked: spectroline.com/product/ez-ject-hvac-leak-detection-kit/
@dmiestercommkitchentech30436 күн бұрын
Question how did you determine the system had 0 psig without checking the pressures you had to have attached gauges to verify flat system this video was very vague because you kept saying you did not use gauges but the system was flat did you push the schrader valve down to find that it was flat if that is how you found out that it is flat I have seen a system that had a broken schrader tip and the tech said it was flat but it wasn't the schrader was bad and it was because a tech was pushing in on the schrader valve and they bent the stem to check to see if it had pressure so best practice is verify flat system with some kind of pressure test ie...hoses with manifold or probes but always test pressures to verify your suspicions.
@SurfBrosHVAC6 күн бұрын
Jonny was there a previous day to do a maintenance and told them the system had no pressure. We have a protocol with this client and we are not to do any work without approval so we informed them the system was flat and they approved a leak search and repair if deemed repairable.
@dmiestercommkitchentech30436 күн бұрын
So you did use gauges to determine that the system was flat so stop making it seem like someone can just walk up and tell the system is flat that is deceitful and very dangerous now you could have said that someone was here and determined that the system was flat by checking the pressures and that is why we are back and dont need gauges to do the leak check and repair if it is deemed possible.
@deancobasky6 күн бұрын
very common spot prob was a rubber! 410 a system you can really jack the preasure on those not with that regulator love that regulator but not for leaks great video red get you a H10 best in the biz leak detector leaks will fear you!
@SurfBrosHVAC6 күн бұрын
I recently saw the H10 in a video by someone else and any day I’m going to find an excuse to spend the money on one. I hadn’t even heard of it till a month ago
@utubepro77425 күн бұрын
DID YOU BLOW BUBBLES WHEN YOU WERE A KID? 😀
@SurfBrosHVAC6 күн бұрын
I tried to be more clear in this video than I have been in other videos. Let me know if the delivery of this was better than past videos. I think I covered most of the basics as far as finding a leak on these systems but if I missed something feel free to chime in
@shootermcgavin28377 күн бұрын
I’m new to the trade and I have so many questions . But it’s really hard to understand the electrical . Can you simply explain how a hot wire and common wire blow up some of the components?
@SurfBrosHVAC7 күн бұрын
On it
@shootermcgavin28376 күн бұрын
@@SurfBrosHVAC thank you
@billmoyer32547 күн бұрын
you sound earnest, but you are projecting your own frustrations.
@SurfBrosHVAC7 күн бұрын
Haha I have no clue what you mean
@MicheleBoechemakes7 күн бұрын
'Do you have vices?... Get into HVAC' 💪
@MicheleBoechemakes7 күн бұрын
@3:03 "If you don't know... call someone who does" 😂👍