Its 2200w , not 8 hp....not even close. You hav a planning hull. You need 15-25 hp to plane. Until that You will always get get 7-10 kmh not much difference on engine.
@RechargeableLithium7 күн бұрын
2.2 KW is just under 3 HP. Does it move your boat closer to a 3 or 5 HP petrol engine?
@ctrlaltdude6 күн бұрын
I only have a 6 HP petrol outboard. I've compared my 5 HP Hangkai with it and got around the same speed. So this 8 HP is even better than that.
@pumbamatata30512 күн бұрын
Thanks Amp draw is less than 9A? On top speed?
@Universalimports13 күн бұрын
Not bad at all congratulations
@JohnVanHare13 күн бұрын
What kind of boat is that? That’s very retro-cool!
@ctrlaltdude12 күн бұрын
Here in Europe they're called "Placon". Something from the 70s I think.
@bearman97514 күн бұрын
About the noise, If I remember from my ebike research from long ago, some of the noise can come from the controller. Not sure but I think it had to do with square wave vs sine wave, or field weakening maybe. What I do remember is that the quieter one was more money, so for what these motors cost, I'm sure they come with the cheap one.
@ctrlaltdude12 күн бұрын
That is interesting. I have the same noise issues with my big motor which uses an expensive Fardriver controller. I'll look into that. There are many options on these controllers.
@MarkWalters-g9x21 күн бұрын
EV technology is great! I've enjoyed having a high power 75hp Stealth electric outboard on my 17' bow rider runabout. Excellent choice for the type of lake boating we enjoy. We can go over 20 miles on one charge. The top speed is 27 MPH and the last time out, we pulled the raft for fun. See video at youtube: mark's gas to electric boat conversion. Go Electric!
@ctrlaltdude3 күн бұрын
That's a nice video. You have the setup that I wanted to build. Most of all quiet! Mine is not though. Something to figure out why. The reason I wanted to go electric was to have silent operation. I'm also not stoked about the 140 Amp draw. And the weight of the batteries. I think my boat is too small to carry enough batteries to get decent range.
@bb-WEH21 күн бұрын
Hi Hans! Very nice ! it seems very powerfull. What is your set up? I mean - motor - controller - batteries... thanks!
@ctrlaltdude21 күн бұрын
Hi, I got more questions like this so I plan to make a video of the setup this winter. But first I need to clear up some space in my workshop because now with the boat in it I can't move around anymore. :D
@bb-WEH21 күн бұрын
Hi Hans! I like the video. What is the total weight of your boat and what is maximum speed you can reach? Can you the motor hold the full speed for a long period of time? thanks!
@ctrlaltdude21 күн бұрын
The boat is 185 kg. These small batteries are from my ebike so only last for about an hour or so. I've ordered big 320 Ah 3.2V cells which should arrive in January. These should be sufficient for this boat. But I'll know more after installation.
@wojciechbrejnak555917 күн бұрын
@@ctrlaltdudeCan please share link where did you get this 320ah battery?
@ctrlaltdude17 күн бұрын
@@wojciechbrejnak5559 Check out this site: off-grid-garage.com I got mine from Gobelpower.
Pour un 8hp franchement je suis déçu, je voulais en acheter un mais la c'est bon. Merci d'avoir partagé
@ctrlaltdudeАй бұрын
It also depends on the boat. Mine weighs 185 kg. I've tested the 5 HP version which performed almost similar to a 6 HP gasoline outboard.
@RubBA-Ай бұрын
Buurman en Buurman 😉
@lasserbreamАй бұрын
That is so noisy for an electric motor... 🤣🤣🤣
@eddiejiang6789Ай бұрын
Very informative. Thanks for sharing!!👍👍
@ravenkiteguyАй бұрын
Looks great! Yes, details on everything would be great. I’m building a small boat (Hydrorunner from 1988 Popular Mechanics) but am concerned about the battery weight and size. It’s rated for 35 hp max. I’m thinking the battery technology may not quite be there for a vert small boat requiring power ( is a combination jet ski and hydroplane). Looking forward to your next video on this,
@donho68562 ай бұрын
What batteries are you running the motor on? Run time? Thanks!
@goodun29742 ай бұрын
As a former car audio installation tech back in the 1980s, having soldered many many hundreds of male and female DIN plugs and connectors, I can attest that this is a sensible video. Note that the DIN plugs I worked with back then were mostly made in Europe or Japan and were probably of better quality than the Asian made parts that people use nowadays; the male plugs sometimes had the "cups" already ground away, or included a slot in each pin where you could apply the solder and iron so that the solder would wick up inside the pin and wet to the wire. The plating quality was usually better as well and would quickly wet to the solder and flux. Modern DIN plugs from China or Asia are often made of inferior metals with crummy plating and are usually oxidized and greasy; grinding the tips of them as you did here will expose some fresh metal without oxidation and make it easier for the solder to wet to the pins, so thst you can get in and out quickly without overheating the pins and thereby softening the plastic disc. If somebody isn't taking a Dremel tool to the plugs prior to soldering, at the very least they should scrub the pins thoroughly with alcohol and a toothbrush prior to soldering, and apply rosin flux to the pins. PS, Air trapped inside the pins expands from heat and causes the solder to bubble and this is another reason why having a ground-away "cup" or a slot in the pins is helpful. ( 40 years ago, most car stereo manufacturers were using DIN plugs and not RCA plugs for the audio hookups and tirn-on control signal to the amplifiers and signal processing equipment, and all the major manufacturers used a different pin out wiring standard, so I frequently found myself making custom cables and adapters so that you could use an Alpine radio with a Kenwood eq and an Audiomobile or Fosgate amplifier and so on).
@lucasoutdoor03013 ай бұрын
Cool
@mesiniotis3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video, I did the same setup. Can I please ask you to explain how you control the speed of the two motors at the same time.
@ctrlaltdude3 ай бұрын
I put the 2 gashandles on a tube next to each other. Then I printed a lever which I clamped on the gashandles so that I could rotate both at the same time. Like in an airplane.
@danlazer87623 ай бұрын
Nice! Fun stuff. Here's my current (no pun intended) electric boat build. Just did the first test runs last week: kzbin.info/www/bejne/kIWyqpaGrbicqMksi=EWfIpSVcVP1PTRWb
@Thewhippedhippie3 ай бұрын
That’s cool ❤
@ABCustoms3 ай бұрын
Mooi ding! Je accu zal je grootste begrenzing zijn denk ik. Ik stuur zelf 27kw tegen een QS 138 aan die rated is voor 3kw Dit doe ik zelf met twee super soco accu’s met gebypasste bms. Die QS180 (zeker de watergekoelde variant) moet makkelijk 35 tot 40 kw kunnen hebben. Dus top voor nu, ruimte voor verbetering!🔥🔥
@ctrlaltdude3 ай бұрын
Yup dat wordt de klus voor deze winter. Zit nu te denken aan LiFePo4 3.2V cellen. Maar gewicht moet wel in balans blijven. Ik reken nu met het ePropulsion systeem van 1 uur vol gas kunnen varen of 1 dag normaal tempo.
@virgilius683 ай бұрын
Hoi, gaaf project! Ik overweeg het ook voor mijn bijboot. afgelopen jaar heb ik mijn zeilboot omgebouwd met een ME1616, Kellycontroller en EVE cellen 280Ah. Ik erger me altijd rot aan die benzine buitenboordmotor ivm slecht starten als je benzine een tijdje staat. ik heb nog een Johnson 4pk staan voor dit project, hoe heb jij de verbinding gemaakt tussen motor en staart? adaptorplaat? groet
@ctrlaltdude3 ай бұрын
Ik heb mbv 3D print een koppelstuk gemaakt. En dat 3D model via PCBway in aluminium laten maken (is ook geprint via sintering). Maar ik had geen motor dus je zou ook de askoppeling van je motor af kunnen slopen en daar dan een ander koppelstuk op maken op je draaibank. Ik zal deze winter een bouw-video maken hoe ik alles heb gedaan. Heb daar al meer vragen over gekregen.
@virgilius683 ай бұрын
@@ctrlaltdude Leuk, ben benieuwd
@freedomseeding3 ай бұрын
Wat voor motor gebruik je?
@ctrlaltdude3 ай бұрын
QS180 90H 8000W motor met een Fardriver ND961800B Encoder 96V BLDC 800A 10-15kW voor aansturing.
@jpl91483 ай бұрын
Please make a video explaining what you Purchased, modify and connected
@ctrlaltdude3 ай бұрын
Yes that is a good idea. I have photos of the whole build but that's no fun to put in a video so I will make a build video this winter.
@Universalimports3 ай бұрын
Great work love the Build...soon do 1 also🎉
@remkohersmus52723 ай бұрын
Vely Nice, vely nice…
@edwinbruckner47523 ай бұрын
Leuk, met kano'en geniet je ook veel meer van de stilte en de rust. Iets dat je met een motorboot eigenlijk ook wel echt mist. Electrische aandrijving is daarom ook echt wel een mooie oplossing. De rust van het roeien/kano'en en het gemak en comfort van een motorboot ! Maar technisch.... wat voor accu's heb je erin ? Een eigenbouw lifopo4 set of kant en klare jongens ? Hoe hard kan de boot, en, misschien wel het belangrijkste, hoelang kan je met een lading normaal varen ?
@dyslectische4 ай бұрын
Electric outside engine are junk. The battery you need to feed them and the time u can use it. Its compleet stupid . I stay with fuel. Easy to refill and move again. Than switch some battery .
@Eden_M3 ай бұрын
I see your point, range is absolutely an issue with electric, but bring 1000w solar panels to the equation and the picture changes a bit. we need to improve and think about the future rather than quit and remove all innovation opportunities.
@out432 ай бұрын
@@Eden_M💯
@sharonbraselton313529 күн бұрын
Wrobg
@Universalimports4 ай бұрын
Nice Setup Cheers🍻 keep updating us on it
@istvankovesdi85114 ай бұрын
Super!!! Max speed????
@rc-fannl73644 ай бұрын
Seems nice, now the question is how well it holds up with more use
@classicarcadeamusementpark42424 ай бұрын
Any feed back on long term reliability of these? I heard of this brand a few years ago, but not too much about it. Seems almost too good to be true for the power you get for such a low price. Makes me wonder if there is some catch, like, they break very quickly? How easy are these to get serviced? Who works on them in the USA? In general, I have a certain lack of trust for a lot of the here today, gone tomorrow Chinese manufacturers. If these motors are reliable, and at their very low price for the given speed, they'd put a lot of other companies under, but that hasn't happened yet. My Torqeedo was way more expensive, and still a bit slower. Then there's their knock off ePropultion, still almost as expensive. These Hangkai motors are a tiny fraction of their cost, and yet....more powerful? Something just isn't adding up. Also, they don't appear to be selling in big numbers. I spent more money than that just to get my Torqeedo fixed (over 10 years old). I'd be curious of the feedback on these in a few more years. Has anyone actually had one for a few years?
@ctrlaltdude4 ай бұрын
The electronics are the same as on electric bicycles. I have been using those since 2017 without issues. So that's reliable. Not sure how the lower end is made. I don't see a plug to add oil.
@classicarcadeamusementpark42424 ай бұрын
@@ctrlaltdude I'll have to check into these more. I had my Torqeedo Travel 1003s which is over a decade old repaired last year and this year, and it cost me probably as much as the 5HP version of this and a battery to have it fixed. I'm hoping I'm good for a while, but when it can no longer be serviced (or is not cost effective) I may consider this. I'm not so sure the 5HP of this motor is as portable as my 1003s motor though. It fits in the trunk of my small sedan, and the shaft needs to be short too and the motor not take up too much space as my inflatable boat and accessories are in the trunk too. Maybe they make a physically smaller 3HP version too? But I like the idea of a 5HP as my other inflatable boat can take up to a 6HP. For years I thought, it seems like some competitor should be able to make something a lot cheaper. When the motor came out, it was $2000. Then it went up a bit, and the redesigned but almost identical 1103 that replaced it went up to more like $3000, although the included battery was stronger. When mine reached end of life, I bought the stronger one. Still less juice than what more standard lithium batteries can go up to, and they are probably half the cost of this battery. Torqeedo has been really nice to have, but you do pay a premium. It was really unique when it first came out though.
@ctrlaltdude4 ай бұрын
@@classicarcadeamusementpark4242 I buy all my hardware from Aliexpess. Never had any issues with my e-Bikes and batteries. Last time I bought a 20Ah 48V battery it was around $300. My first battery from 2017 is still good but I had to replace it last year because I couldn't ride the 33 km anymore on high speed. So it's a little bit degraded but not a problem. And that was after 6 years. But I'm an engineer so I can fix problems if they arise. So I'm not so dependant on dealers or shops. But that doesn't apply to most people of course.
@NikiHeuvelmans4 ай бұрын
Super that you've tried this. If you want more speed i suggest overvolting. I've seen video's of these engines running 72V, but i think 60V would already be a significant difference and less chance of breaking things.
@ctrlaltdude4 ай бұрын
Yes that's the next step. I plan to get a more powerful controller and see how that goes. Also it's gets a bit warm so also plan to make it water cooled.
@heikkianttila62963 ай бұрын
@@ctrlaltdude overvolting has the advanatge of more rpm. If your propeller pitch is such that at max rpm it will reach say 10.5 kph (with no slip), putting 10 motors side by side will not make it any more faster. If you have a 3D printer you could try with same setup but higher pitch propellers. Essentially like a higher "gear" in a bicycle or car. This can help if the motors are not yet close to the maximum amp draw. It means that they could likely maintain same rpm with more load.
@leodanryan9664 ай бұрын
You need to have counter rotating props.
@ctrlaltdude4 ай бұрын
I know but I don't think it matters very much with this speed and power.
@adamtedder10124 ай бұрын
It's not as important as you would think. Especially with smaller motors.
@FranklinBryan4 ай бұрын
Can we get some specifics? Amperage/ voltage/ wattagec draw/ speed?
@ctrlaltdude4 ай бұрын
It's a 48V engine, 1200W. Max speed is 8 km/h. Weight of the boat is 185 kg. I tried to measure amperage but the meter is not accurate. But according to Ohms law it should not exeed 25 Amps. But that also depends on the BMS of the battery. This is an ongoing project and in my next video I try out 2 of these outboards. Then I'm going to modify one to see if we can get more out of it.
@FranklinBryan4 ай бұрын
Sir, that's clearly a no wake zone lol
@tobias78745 ай бұрын
Electric boating🤢🤮
@FranklinBryan4 ай бұрын
Don't hate just because it's awesome, quiet, safer, less wake and saves the world.
@antoniocavallaro81226 ай бұрын
Come è avvenuto il collegamento sui 2 tablet?
@lovemadeinjapan7 ай бұрын
I quit soldering DIN plugs. The pins are not wel made, the plastic melts, the pins in the center are never longer than the ones on the outer ring, but worst of all is the cover, the metal hook to keep it in place always slides off and you pull the plug open if it is in a tight DIN socket. So my advise: buy a cheap sealed premade cable, and cut it in half and solder that to say a SCART plug or so.
@goodun29742 ай бұрын
As a car stereo installer in the 1980s when most amplifiers and radio preamp-outputs were connected with shielded DIN plugs and cables that also carried control/turn-on voltages, I soldered many many hundreds of DIN plugs, both male and female, to make custom-length cables or adaptors so that you could mix and match equipment brands (every manufacturer used a different pin-out wiring scheme). They get easier to work with after you've successfully soldered a few dozen; but modern DIN plugs are probably all made in Asia and are of lesser equality than what I was working with 40 years ago. Back then some of the plugs had a slot ground in each pin where you could apply the soldering iron and solder so that it wicked up inside the tube and others already had the little cup ground away at the ends. They also used good quality plating that had a high affinity for wetting with solder.
@raffaellu43759 ай бұрын
Great sound
@thacking111 ай бұрын
De piano doet het nu alleen de rest nog
Жыл бұрын
Hallo, wie hast du das eingestellt das ich auf beiden tablets das gleiche sehe?
@RubBA- Жыл бұрын
Dat is nog een een nuttige inzet van een streamdeck
@benryves Жыл бұрын
Superb tip! I destroyed my first connector trying to get the pins hot enough to flow solder into them, the plastic melted and the pins ended up pointing in crazy directions. Thanks to this video I was able to get the second one soldered together extremely quickly and easily. :)
@mareks350510 ай бұрын
The exactly same thing happened to me too! I ended up making a small model of the plastic inlay that holds the pins and 3D printing that. It was a little wobbly so I filled the plug with hot glue, which, duh, again partly melter the printed inlay :P
@lovemadeinjapan7 ай бұрын
How hard is it to use a thermoharder plastic for the part that holds the pins.... These plugs are defective by design.
@goodun29742 ай бұрын
Plugging the male connector into a female connector before soldering it will keep the pins in alignment and will help dissipate heat that might otherwise soften the plastic insulating disk and cause the pins to go out of alignment. Note that some higher quality DIN plugs will actually have a small slot in each pin where you can apply the solder and soldering iron, and the solder will wick up inside the pin; other DIN plugs may already have a factory-engineered notch or cup at the end. Grinding a notch in the pin yourself has the advantage of cleaning and abrading the metal and makes it easier for soldier and flux to wet to the metal pin.
@goodun29742 ай бұрын
PS, blob of Blu-tack or similar *non-hardening* putty or modeling clay can be used to hold the DIN plug, in a more stable fashion than the helping hands jig (some of which are "tippy" due to an undersized, underweight base). If you stick the longer male pins into the Bluetack be sure to clean them with a Qtip and alcohol before using the connector.
@benjamindunlop9057 Жыл бұрын
have tvs caught up to 4k yet? any recommendations?
@wimschiphorst8541 Жыл бұрын
Hey. Ik gebruik ook Mspro. Ben op zoek naar een redelijk geprijst A4 tablet(Android). Is het tablet links A4?? En de naam kon ik niet goed verstaan. Zou je mij deze ku nen vertellen. Dank Wim
@ctrlaltdude Жыл бұрын
Die grote tablet is een Chuwi Hi13 (13" tablet). Windows based. Helaas verkopen ze die niet meer en zulke grote tablets heb ik t.o.h. niet meer kunnen vinden (behalve de iPad pro). Deze tablet is inmiddels defect en ik gebruik nu een Chuwi Hi12 tablet. Op zich best tevreden met Chuwi. Heel goedkoop maar werkt wel goed. Maar ik heb wel altijd een reserve bij me voor het geval dat.
@wimschiphorst8541 Жыл бұрын
@@ctrlaltdude Dank voor je reactie. Ik zag een tijdje geleden een 12inch windows tablet van een Duitse firma. Ben echter de naam vergeten. Ik heb ook gezien dat TCL Nxtpro12 een 12 inch (A4) formaat tablet met E-ink eigenschappen en blauw licht dimming heeft uitgebracht. Prijs rond 500 Dollar. Deze is echter nog niet te koop in Europa.
@ctrlaltdude Жыл бұрын
@@wimschiphorst8541 Voordeel van Chuwi is dat het heel goedkoop is (€200 - €300). Maar als je geen gezeur wil dan zou je het beste een iPad Pro kunnen kopen. Als die 10 jaar mee gaat dan scheelt het niet zoveel met elke 3 jaar een Chuwi kopen. Het is een afweging.
@wimschiphorst8541 Жыл бұрын
@@ctrlaltdude Maar de programma's voor een Ipad zijn weer wat prijziger. Voor het programma Songbook+ betaal je nu ruim 50 euro en iedere 5 jaar voor een update weer, plus infatie. Terwijl Mspro éénmaal een aanschafprijs (laag) heeft plus update gratis. Gr. Wim
@rubenreal3 Жыл бұрын
Funciona conectando un iPad pro y una tablet Samsung? O no son compatibles?