You have no idea, do you? He can still die, by other gods. The only curse there is, is to wear the ash of his family on him. Fucking learn the lore before making dukbarse videos

“I believe I would like to sit here for a while.” That line always gets me, to me, it signifies that Kratos is actually gonna stick around this time and rule with temperance and wisdom rather than just being a bloodthirsty vengeful warmonger. I always thought this was the best scene in Ragnarok, if not the entirety of the past two games. Not only did Christopher judge give us an absolutely BRILLIANT performance, but it’s in this scene where Kratos truly confronts and reconciles his past. His tone goes from reminiscent to angry to contemplative, and finally vindicated. These are emotions that encapsulate a life of pain and suffering that Kratos brought on himself by being selfish and blinded by his destructive ambitions. They caused the death of his family and the destruction of his old home and he realizes that was all just a fool’s errand. But through feeling all that emotion, Kratos realizes he’s not the same man he used to be and he’s wiser for the wear, so knowing what his actions caused the first time out, when he sits on his old throne, he has hope now that this time things will be different, which really shows that he’s come full circle after all the calamity he brought about in his old life caused him to all but give up hope completely.

A little i have for how Kratos became more weak was because he lost some of his godhood in gow 3 when he tried to kill himself at the end of game with the blade of Olympus, since he we know he can put his god power into the sword making him weaker and basically human again, which could explain why he looks so different in the new games as well

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Sorry for missing a live stream I didn’t know

The issue lies in the fact that when Kratos was *first* killed by Zeus, he wasn’t saved by an alternate version of himself. If that had been the case, your theory would hold true. However, once again, Kratos defies fate itself.

Wonder if Kratos curse is also self induced. A gods mental state has an effect on them.

how about make it a stream? the game is very cool

he btw are you doing a stream of gow soon?

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Was waiting for someone to finally make this. Had the idea to make it myself years ago but you saved me.

What if the original kratos after he got to the second time line stays and the other kratos will continue doing the same action as the original he'd probably create a third time line and eventually all this kratos will create infinite time lines and infinite kratos 😮

The (real) God Kratos like everybody else in God of War could be considered a Nephilim

I always thought the reason why he doesn't stay dead is simply because his WILL won't allow him to stay dead. And the immortality in terms of him being able to live centuries, self-heal, and never get sick was the result of him being a demigod.

The Oracle from God of War cursed him to wear the ashes of his family forever, which literally means forever because immortality is a part of that curse. Even if he got killed he returns to life, also when he wants to die. Yeah could argue that in two cases the Greek gods simply won’t let him die but I think that weaves into his curse.

Kratos died twice. 1st time he fought through the underworld and climbed out(with help), 2nd in gow 2 but he was saved by gaia. In gow 3 he takes his own life, and he just doesnt die. So whatever caused this happened in gow2-3. I believe it happened when he absorbed the ashes of prometheus in gow2. They gave him greater strength, but he inherited prometheus' curse. He can be brought to the brink of death, then he simply revives/heals.

No more running, no more self doubt/pity. Not absolving himself of his actions, but accepting them and truly moving on. This god has been torturing himself for 100s of years. As soon as he accepted who he was, and who he wasn't, young Kratos disappears. The Norns were right, The God of War did die. Replaced with The God of Hope 💯

Nah it’s the same dialogue the 1st just cut out the 2nd Zeus dialogue.

I had always wondered about this. I noticed the dialogue change when I first played the game years ago.

What part of the game is this?

Then is another one the 3rd kratos from timeline who created from kratos 2 😂

Not a big fan of this theory, gonna be honest. But still, love your videos!

Eu sou kratos e sou imortal , viver para sempre , sozinho, diretamente , viverei 🌍🌍🌍🌍

This is the best theory so far. You make it, make sense.👌👌👌👌

"Zeus your sons have returned and we bring the destruction of Olympus" would have been cool GOW3 2 player mode 😱😱😱

I can only imagine the confusion of kratos seeing another kratos appear out of nowhere to fight Zeus

- Timeline changed, VA script changed due to inconsistency result in youtube video made - - The timeline is split, the paradox is made, you now viewed this message and your History contains the paradox -

it's like dragon ball/mcu...when you return back in time you just enter another different timeline

That kratos still go to the underworld and he will go to the past. Yes the dialogue is different. He's still dead at the end to go back time BUT his world will get destroyed by our kratos. But I guess he will have enough time to go to the past before the world gets destroyed.

This scene just like PoP WW when the Sand Wraith try to prevent the Prince passing to the Dahaka in the 2nd chance timeline

I noticed something else. Both Athena and Thoth are gods of wisdom. Maybe they're somehow connected to Sophia.

Reposted 🤔or i see that's is other timeline

My brain is melting

until then we wait for gow6 if that happens

Bro karato kill last spartan soldier. He is alive 2nd timeline 🤔🤔🤔

I will think it's more like because Kratos brought the titans into the future (both in timeline 2) there would be no Gaia to help Kratos so Kratos 2 will just torture endlessly in Hell. Because if Kratos brought the timeline 1 Gaia than there's no one to help our Kratos the original. But yeah I think it's just the same timeline and there's simply two Kratos, the second Kratos will die anyway AND it feels like a jump cut between the stabbing scene and when the hands of Hades take Kratos into hell (Kratos lost conciousness after Zeus stab him and he's imagining stuff like his wife and daughter etc) so there is a possibility between that scene our Kratos is back from the future to fight Zeus and then he escaped when Kratos stab Athena (we never see Athena after Kratos was brought back to life) and then Zeus attacked Sparta. How is my theory😂

man that takes me back to when the GoW games were actually cool and compelling! Cory Barlog, he's no godfather! Jaffe is! Barlog is known to talk out of his ass on many occasions!

1:40 Something only a few might've noticed. Cory Barlog said "spoilers".. he cares about people not getting spoiled by the old games, as if, he wants newcomers to learn about Kratos's past with the upcoming remasters 👀

The thing that people dont understand is that yes, the oracle cursed him, but the dude literally killed the primordial god of death, so death can't get him, because he killed death. Now that he is in another realm and the greek magic gone, maybe there is another death there, but he is still immortal. He can die, but still rises.

Zeus dialogue is the same. The "no matter" is probably not remembered by Kratos b/c he was dying, then Zeus gets right in his ear to make sure he hear it. While yeah 2 timelines, but 1 stops existing once Kratos travels to fight Zeus. Then yeah, past Kratos gets revived by gaia and goes after the fates, while main Kratos is fighting Olympus. Even in game if you look back towards where Olympus would be, it looks like something bad is happening. But there can't be multiple timelines b/c of the fight with the fates in the past on the sword used to kill Aries. If Kratos fails, the sword is destroyed, past Kratos is killed by Aries, and main Kratos dies/ceases to exist. The slightly altered dialogue could also just be subtle shifts due to variations in a looping timeline. 1st Kratos hears/sees more, like zues killing the Spartans, then stops that from happening, 2nd Kratos sees himself, then when he gets to that same moment, maybe things happen slightly different due to what he experienced.

It kinda goes with the gameplay of these games. Before you can just spam the attack button and kill hundreds of enemies within seconds now it takes alil more strategically

Don’t they tell us in ragnorak that it’s because there powered by primordial Fire

Did they start fading because he found new love?

i think what creator meant is he is doomed to walk earth forever because he is a god so he doesnt have a lifespan. thats what i understood he didnt say curse edit; the grandma only talked about ashes staying forever not his life im sorry bro 😭

woah hes scary also u dropped this pin, can i have it?

What if they are fading because Greece is gone? Kratos says he cant use greek magic, what if the the curse is weakening for the same reason

Including Christianity would make it so corny if done the way Christians would want it

Well technically David Jaffee I guess 😂

I know where his immortality come from the village oracle she was the one who place the curse on him in the form of ashes of his wife and daughter to be set as a symbol for his terrible deeds for everyone to see and everyone to know meaning it will not matter if nobody sees him as long as they know what he looks like then the curse world remain there forever what about the other gods who's spread the knowledge of who kratos is like Hades or Persephone could have told everyone in the afterlife of who kratos is or Athena spreading her message to everyone about who he is meaning as long as the knowledge of who he is burned in their memories then the curse can't leave him meaning people of future generations will know who he is based on the stories that their parents told them about him and he can bring himself back to life whenever necessary and even if he does kill himself the curse will prevent him from dying anyway and also him having the power of hope means he can resurrect as long as he has hope within himself as he embodies that concept now as long as people have hope in him or him having hope within himself then the concept can't die even if you take his curse away it's going to be hope that keeps him alive

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