I did, but also I kind of cheated: I created a photoshop overlay of 2 anatomical images, then I projected that on to the whiteboard, then traced it with a marker :)

@@danielaculic5382 like you I'm more than three months in , I had a lot of pain on my back 😭, head ,ear ,arms ,very uncommon symptoms,I cry al the Time because I saw many doctors but they can not explain my symptoms

Are you better?

What did the neurosurgeon say?

Did you check an upper cervical chiropractor?

@@EzequielEstrada-hw9yuyes11mths

Gosh you say "The pull and muscle spasms are so intense" you can't function, and the pull/spasms run "midline right back to front torso to head and culminates into the right side Atlanto occipital joint. The worst is the pressure at the base of skull and at the STERNUM". I have a similar WIDE spread of pull and muscle spasms, although mine is on the LEFT side, and somewhat different pattern. I've had this going on for 24 years since a neck injury, and long diagnosed with 'Cervical Dystonia', though that didn't anywhere near cover all that was going on. Anyway, what struck me about your comment is when you said it's worst at the Atlanto occipital joint/base of skull and STERNUM. It's a long way from the atlanto-axial joint to the sternum! Not to mention one structure is at the back, the other at front. Yet it's the SAME WITH ME. I have had constant deep soreness at the base of my sternum (xiphoid region) AND at the base of my skull on the left side. There's a taut muscle band runs from occipital region to my left upper trapezius. If I try to flex my head (chin to chest) against the line of pull, it literally feels like my brain is being pulled out. If the area either side of my sternum gets accidentally pressed it triggers eyewatering burning pain that can last for 10-20 mins. I consider the sternum pain related to my neck injury as it all started at the same time, yet no doctor has made a connection. I understand what you mean by 'leaving this body'. The urge to abandon it. I felt the same, still do some days, but I'm still here 24 years later. I'm not bedridden, but have to lie down every couple of hours. Over the years I've developed all manner of strategies, little things I do that give me a measure of relief or bring joy or capture my interest. Things that when they were first suggested made me feel like shouting 'Are you crazy? That won't begin to touch this! I'll never be the same again!' Then I accepted that I would never be the same again. I started to experiment with things that might give me some relief. Even transient 5-10% relief kept me going. In the early days I juggled work and raising two children with it, but the whole time in the back of my mind was wanting to study and learn as much as I could to understand what is going on with my body. I've seen a huge expansion of knowledge across two decades. The discovery of the myodural bridges last decade springs to mind, then last year the SCAN (Somatosensory Cognitive Action Network), which requires the rewriting of 90 year old neurology textbooks. I stay to see what happens next :-) That dura is incredibly tough stuff - like teflon. A small piece of it can hold 50lb or more. It's also innervated. I reckon the dura is the stuff that gives us 'joy of movement', and equally so, 'despair of movement' when it's twisted, adhered, deformed, out of position. And yes I think 'yanking' on it can inflame and tear it, whilst failing to free it, which is why I don't do 'aggressive' chiro. Poor posture alone can cause havoc and well, muscle spasms pull it out of position too. For this reason I do gentle stretching every day to try to keep everything in place and gliding freely. But I can't sort my neck and upper body out once and for all, no matter what I do, and slowly it pulls me back to twisted and jerking. Vibration Therapy and Whole Body Dance therapy gives me the greatest relief at this point, but alas temporary. The fascial system has been shamefully ignored by medical science for nearly a century, but the tide is turning. There should be a global repository study group devoted to cases like ours - especially the atlantoaxial / sternum connection. Would speed us to the next discovery I reckon. I will post my story here at some point as this doctor seems leaps and bounds ahead. Bit exhausted to do so right now. Wishing you strength fellow sufferer

I can’t seem to reply without all the text going on top of each other yes to who asked if I saw an upper cervicsl Chiro I went 10 mths she made it worse

It’s crazy! Unbelievable lack of knowledge in the body work field. You’re right myodural bridge and dural torque like someone please hear us. This man seems to get it I wonder if he is my next trip in desperation. I can rub push meditate into it hold cry beg it will not let go. On my imaging there is no infolding of the dura at least not since 2023 but crap it’s adhered by scar tissue my injury was really bad and no one can release it !!!

I believe that as well.

Can you tell us more about the accident that caused the injury and what problems you are still facing?

@@GGletgo1a chiro did a heavy manipulation to the back of my head that no one can reverse. I have chronic spams pulling yanking burning squeezing you name it I feel it deep at the base of skull, esp midline right, i feel both sides of face falso get it in the front of my neck, sternum and stomach. It feels like my head isn’t centered. Sometimes it’s also in my upper back but mostly the spasms are the front esp left side neck, my ear on that side will clog, tense up, my body feels heavy, lymphatics are off ankles fluid filled, sweat a lot. Tried 34 therapists nothing. Watch posture but it feels like I’m not straight no matter what I do. My head feels dismantled. 5 years

Do you have back pain? 😢😢😢😢Please share symptoms

Facts I've been going on 10 years n still no where in terms of recovering

I'm excited to have you in class Stanley! ~M