14‐15th May

@@Foxstar1387 oh ok . i was there on the 17th and i thought i saw you

Hopefully within the next few months.

Alot of the new apartment developments do feel like they are geared towards those folk who work in central Manchester and don't have any natural connections to Wigan. And are only being done to pull in the commuter money.

Wardles try wouldn't have stood any other time. No idea why it was called. Penrith scored from a miscommunication in the Wigan defence and a crash over that was 50/50 for being held up. Other than that the nearly 70% possession wasn't used to its fullest. The two main break aways got shut down by Field on defensive scramble. The final seconds possible try was held up on fields arm. With out the speed of Jai penrith would have run the show. French was offside by a bugs doodah. On the kick. Any other time that would have been given. But due to the mess from the Wardle try it got called for offside to make up for the error. The ref was born in St Helens and lives in Wigan.

Australian ref boss, Graham Annesley said it was disgraceful refereeing decisions. English football VAR is no different. This is what happens when the poms can't seem to win anything! Don't know why Aussie teams bother going over there. Waste of time.

I know, it's hilarious.

Cheers. Yeah French and Field are dynamite if you give them space.

Yeah bro. I've been Wigan fan since the days of James leuluai n Fred Ah koi, Dean Bell, Ellery Hanly, Andy Gregory and the list goes on. I'm glad Penrith were humble in defeat. Awesome fan support from the stands as always.

@@Foxstar1387 I agree about the dynamic duo. They're both silky skills players. Farrell is a machine too. Goes all day. 💯

No Sydney roosters have won more world club challenge then any other club witch makes them the best club ever and I don't even follow them

Five wcc for both Wigan and Roosters.

@@Foxstar1387 who did it first Hay respect to Wigan phenomenal side

@@Foxstar1387 my dad was a huge Wigan fan me not so much I like Huddersfield giants bit I do injoy watching top rugby league I'm from Australia so I do get to watch good hard hitting game's every weekend but I also love super league it's fast hard hits and very entertaining to watch

Can't miss you sometimes

The casino site is now where the grand arcade shopping centre is.

The weekly or fortnightly vids will continue from the demolition to the rebuild.

Hopefully soon as last I knew it was ment to be once the demolition is finished.

I think its to stop stuff falling to the road and so they can pull or push the rubble into the site. Sort of keeping it more contained like it was for the entry portals. Some could be by hand other parts via the mechanical ways

With how much of the site could have been modified and repurposed it dose seem a vast waste. Yes parts of Market gate where needing some fixups like the moisture getting in via the roof and maybe remove afew units to make more event-public areas. But the whole site being obliterated is abit much now. It will be interesting to see what happens to the current cinema building too. Will it get pulled apart inside to make a lazer tag arena and such or will it sit to rot.

There's been conflicting rumours that the tower will either be pulled down when the market is taken down or the tower will stand and be used in one of the new buildings in some form. Hard to see it staying when it's built into the market like it is.

The tower is integral to the structure of the market so will come down with the market

Im hoping its built since its gonna leave a huge scar and pit if its left as a half pulled shell. Rumours of them pulling out have been going around since may so who knows whats true and whats not. If the council would come out and talk about whats going on so that we all know if its going on or not.

@@Foxstar1387 yep and it’s criminal if they pull out now by both parties as the council should of never started it if they won’t hundred percent

@mattybelshaw9542 that's the problem with alot of these projects. Partners jump off and plans get fiddled with and numbers fudged.

Not sure on the timelines. But at some point. The new market hall should start to be built. Once that happens and the traiders are housed in the new hall. Thst should open up the slots for the test of the project to kick into gear. With the new cinema building and the bars - restaurants following suit. The hotel and apartments are I think. Due to be commenced once the current market hall is down.

Last I knew is it was gonna come down when the market hall is pulled.

@@Foxstar1387 I was watching elder gamer and he speaks to builders and they said its now staying, think clock will be fixed

Not sure. Not really seen much of the high reach stuff for a while. Now that its at the point its at and space will be becoming a premium round there. They could be only keeping the essential equipment around and only bring in whats needed phase by phase. Rather than hold it all in the one zone.

I didn't say where he is or anything. So it's a clue not a scene spoiler

For a movie based on a game about haunted robots it's pretty good. Much like the first game it's pretty generic in its form. It's an introduction and world - lore builder. Since Mathew Lillard is signed on for three movies. We know the fun will continue on. After thinking on it there are areas that could have been different. But for what it is its a pretty good movie.

Bring on the Dragons

@@Foxstar1387 indeed !

It's gonna be apartments. A hotel. New cinema unit. Entertainment spaces. Some retail. No replacement of the lost parking. Some food outlets and other stuff. Mostly polishing up the town center but not doing what is really needed.

@@Foxstar1387 ok good for pointing that out but i think there was nothing wrong with the galleries and makinson arcade it could have done with a refurb and maybe a sugar daddy to get some more shops in but i liked spending my Saturday afternoons at the Galleries!

@michaeljohnson5365 the council in their wisdom decided that as part of the " leveling up " scheme that pulling down a set of buildings that needed minimal work done. Yes ok market gate roof wasn't all that good but abit of fixing and it would be fine. The market could have done with a spiff up and other parts maybe needed alil tlc but it wasn't all that bad. Lower rents and such could have helped keep companies happy and in the units. ( ripping the guts out of a town center isn't the best of ideas. And in this new economic climate it isn't wise either. I don't like that it's being pulled down as it could easy been renovated and turned into what ever was needed at the point. But the council feels ot k ows best. Even if it's practically pissing in the wind. Due to things like paigefield being in such a sad state. ) I compare alot of stuff in Wigan to what's in chorley since I lived there till late 2018. Look at how well chorley center is doing compared to this.

It's a plan to re invigorate the town center. Move the market hall from the lower end upto the top end. Build a new cinema some apartment blocks a hotel and future entertainment space with cafes vars abd restaurants. The buildings are very solid. The aerated concrete wasn't included in the build. Just lots of steel re enforcement and high grade concrete. A very solidly built set from late 80s.

A bit of hearsay rumbling about. It's most likely a misunderstanding of the towers not going yet. But with the market hall. Though it wouldn't surprise me if a plan git changed somewhere along the line and the tower gets incorporated into something

The cinema closed as empire the company went bust. As far as I'm aware the new cinema still hasn't been signed off as having a tenant. Market gate needed a roof fix and the main parts a tart up but they decided it was more " cost effective " to rip it all down and build new. New apartments going in too which will suck next to busy roads.

I don't like the demolition. Being the same age as some of the buildings being pulled down is mad. I'm all for redevelopment and all that but not when it's ripping the town center up.

@@Foxstar1387 same here i am just as old as when it was built known nothing else