I think that's my Dimir Frog list! -2 Island -1 Gloomlake Verge +2 Swamp +1 Prismatic Vista in the latest build, you really want black mana on turn 1. Also worth noting that Thoughtseizing yourself is a pretty common line for the deck. I'll have a gameplay video up on my channel tomorrow if anyone wants to see it in action. Thanks for the metagame update Joe!
@MTGJoeКүн бұрын
Nice list!
@Alkraed2 күн бұрын
The woodland combo is sweet, not sure if there's space for Emperor of bones in that list, but would be even more cool... it's time to switch from ultimatum i guess
@MTGJoeКүн бұрын
If you go emperor you’ll want 4x ulamog for sure
@ReadyAimFire_2 күн бұрын
Thats why I dont like historic very much. The same red bullshit as in Standard, but even upgraded.
@MTGJoeКүн бұрын
Majority of the decks are heavily Influenced by modern horizons. Sure there is a red aggro deck but there is sacrifice, reanimator, various combo decks leveraging the graveyard all mixed throughout
@rpgnpc2 күн бұрын
I think it's worth mentioning that the Mono Red Leyline deck shown is Pioneer Legal, and this particular build likely better suited for that format. There are historic upgrades, though, like Reckless Charge and Horizon lands. Additionally, if the deck doesn't have any black, then Thud is strictly better than Callous Sell-Sword. Thud sacrifices the creature as a cost, so the opponent can't respond with exile removal.
@MTGJoe2 күн бұрын
Good note on further revisions!
@howtoplay27042 күн бұрын
The mono black demon deck is largely standard cards. Thats wild it can be more or less ported over to explorer and still perform
@MTGJoeКүн бұрын
Power creep of some recent sets
@rokitoz47732 күн бұрын
Need historic 😢
@MTGJoe2 күн бұрын
Going to record it now. Should be up later today
@Bi0HazardMTG2 күн бұрын
what about Quintorius Kand combo? Thanks
@MTGJoe2 күн бұрын
Similar to my note on mono green. Sub 55% can get run over by aggressive decks
@kirkbarnett12312 күн бұрын
Ive been having better luck with a tweaked azor enchantment deck instead of the aura deck....i really like the eerie cards either way though
@LewisCawthorne2 күн бұрын
I think the advantage of Temple over a surveil land is that if your next card is one of your valgavoth, you can stick him on the bottom and not put a possible creativity target in your graveyard. That said, I don’t expect it to come up that much, so I’ll probably save three wildcards and run the deck with surveil lands, at the very least until have to toss a Val in the graveyard a time or two.
@fallguybuddy26542 күн бұрын
What happened to mono green?
@MTGJoe2 күн бұрын
It was sub 55% - struggled against the hyper aggressive decks and angels also can snowball hard vs it
@matthewludivico17142 күн бұрын
Going wild to save up wildcards for a GF vehicles deck
@l0lan00b33 күн бұрын
Hmm I don’t like GF but I do like the color combo. I wonder how spawn hunter could work in this deck as it pseudo tutors vehicles if it’s tapped. Probably no good haha. I was thinking Joe.. when meta shifts happen it seems like it just happens over night and then rates readjust the week after or so. What would be some hypothetical guide lines to reading the “possible meta”? Like UW control was doing great but now it’s sub 55/50. What would one analyze to be like “yeah xxx is going to be good soon”.
@MTGJoe3 күн бұрын
I think it’s kind of ebs and flows. Control especially in Bo1 likely needs time to readjust. Seeing a bunch of Greasefang or graveyard decks will maybe want UW to have incidental GY hate main in Bo1. Additionally you’ll see trends like rakdos getting popular to aggro out control and enigmatic. So then angels picks up to outlifegain aggro. If I am a control player seeing angels I’d be happy as that matchup is good. It’s easier for control to maintain more stable win rates in Bo3 as you will always have your sideboard to adjust
@PrimordialTuna4 күн бұрын
@5:28 that decklist only has 58 cards.
@CSDragon4 күн бұрын
It sucks how many of these use fake overpowered Alchemy cards. I wish we could have a historic format without that garbage ruining it.
@freesgaming90364 күн бұрын
i feel dumb but untapp gg wont download on my pc i try and install it but it just says missing shortcut each time asking me to fix it or delete it fixing it doesnt do anything as it just closes and thats it can anyone help?
@MTGJoe4 күн бұрын
I would just email them based on their contact info (let me know if you can’t find it) and share screen shots. They team is usually super helpful when I engage with them in the creator discord
@freesgaming90364 күн бұрын
@@MTGJoe ya ive looked for it and seems on discord im not the only one with that problem hopefully someone finds out whats going on haha
@MTGJoe4 күн бұрын
@freesgaming9036 try messaging the team there. If it doesnt get solved in a day or so shoot me an email with the screenshot and I’ll ping my contact
@emillyst55914 күн бұрын
Did I just hear "no sweepers" for the mono white list when it has 4 sunfalls? :D
@MTGJoe4 күн бұрын
I’ll have to go back and check. Sometimes the brain doesn’t jive with my mouth lol. I recorded a couple videos b2b yesterday so may have mixed up
@thosnod5 күн бұрын
It's a bird 🐦......?It's a plane ✈️ ....? No, it is the best video in the week! ❤🎉
@Sirmaadman245 күн бұрын
Nice selection this time around! I almost have enough to try out the oculus deck. I'm sticking with the mono red aggro for now though.
@MTGJoe5 күн бұрын
New set is also out in about a week so prob best to just wait on a major craft
@tonythepokemonguy7515 күн бұрын
I like the combo with tenacity, it’s a cool combo that’s a cool win. But it seems like one of those combos that is spotted a mile away and can be stopped so it’s no so powerful
@klolwut5 күн бұрын
It’s good content!
@GeDiceMan5 күн бұрын
Ran with boros auras a month ago and I've been reaping lots in standard events.
@MTGJoe5 күн бұрын
It’s a really strong deck
@JennyMartinez-l6q5 күн бұрын
What website is he using?
@MTGJoe5 күн бұрын
It’s called untapped. Look in my video description there is a link there
@ChillaKillaShaun6 күн бұрын
If I am not missing something you always need Bloodthirsty Conqueror and a combo enabler on the board for the 2 card combo kill, right? I think this is just what we currently have in standard with Slasher + Bloodletter, but one turn slower and all the cards are worse on their own. I do not think this will be meta relevant after the first few days, but it would be cool to be proven wrong here.
@MTGJoe6 күн бұрын
Ya both can be disrupted if you kill a combo piece. Tenacity can come back but opponent would likely target the bloodthirsty. Slasher does need to connect for combat damage where this combo just needs a life gain or opponent to lose a life. Combat damage to player not necessary
@ChillaKillaShaun5 күн бұрын
@@MTGJoe Yea the fact that you do not need to connect damage might be more important than the downside of being 5 cmc actually. But still, with the current combo you can play a deck full of bombs, whereas with this combo you need to play minions that are pretty bad on their own apart from the Mythic.
@bolelv58406 күн бұрын
new set card is so much🥲
@MTGJoe5 күн бұрын
There are soooo many cards
@matthewludivico17146 күн бұрын
Very cheap mana cost, and also inhibits a pay 2 life# style of deck. Might also be good in a Bandit's Talent# discard deck where opponent gets ping damage for having small hands. I'd definitely keep some ward capacity to protect that vampire. And reanimation. Being non-legendary and infinitely trigger-able, there is a lot of potential to combo and multiply it's impact.
@glorybringer88176 күн бұрын
game have 2x 2 mana 1/3 that ping ang gain life at attack, with 3 mana white mythic they are unstoppable. Also 3/2 vampire when gain life dmg oppo. Im not even talking about x8 1 mana enchants that gain life
@jmoney94946 күн бұрын
I think this is gonna be pretty powerful in standard as bats was alresdy decent and bats with the curiosity is even better so just 1 card away from a good deck having an infinite combo
@MTGJoe6 күн бұрын
My brain is mush early on a weekend morning and kept calling the conqueror the marauder. In the context of the video it is all in respect to the Bloodthirsty Conqueror. Do you think this combo will be playable in standard or more of a commander / EDH strategy?
@matthewludivico17146 күн бұрын
It might be a good commander.
@Goldy015 күн бұрын
I can imagine a world where you play case of the uneaten feast into a push/pull to get these two back. I'll certainly try!
@viniciusAQUELE6 күн бұрын
best channel for mtg arena data!
@Bluegoespewpewpew6 күн бұрын
This is wonderful, thank you for doing this. Really great data to shift through. Reallllll excited to see Foundations shake things up.
@grumbleworldshaker24406 күн бұрын
So does this software also just track total wins per format? Not just for that match but lifetime wins?
@MTGJoe6 күн бұрын
You can filter by season and see your aggregate wins. It does split but constructed and limited but doesn’t aggregate per format for your games. You would have to aggregate each of the decks on your profile yourself
@Ykesha6 күн бұрын
Thanks Joe!
@howtoplay27047 күн бұрын
would you still be doing BO1 of explorer? Been waiting for a vid on that
@MTGJoe7 күн бұрын
Just getting back in the routine schedule. Will be alternating Bo1/Bo3 weekly going forward as week to week I haven't noticed many changes. Coming week will be Bo1
@AnjinSan19667 күн бұрын
Great content, thank you! The sound is spot on now, clear and crisp! Have a great day and be safe!
@NathanGuthrie-qg6kp7 күн бұрын
Great job as always thank you!
@carlosdinator78947 күн бұрын
Hi, thnxs 4 the vid. This is for BO3 right?
@MTGJoe7 күн бұрын
Yes everything on MTGO is Bo3. If you play Bo1 I cover the meta in its own video each week. Posted the latest a couple days ago if you check playlist
@MatteBlacke7 күн бұрын
Is your mic set to react to a certain amount of volume? It’s just not picking up those weaker syllables.
@MTGJoe7 күн бұрын
Ya I have a high/low range. Just need to expand the low range. Thanks for note
@PeterRelopat7 күн бұрын
Great video can you do one for explorer or historic because the video was soo good love the content keep the brilliant videos coming out thanks
@MTGJoe7 күн бұрын
Thanks! For those formats I cover each in videos on my channel leveraging arena data since those aren’t MTGO formats. Check out the metagame breakdown playlist to see the latest for each posted this week
@PeterRelopat7 күн бұрын
@ thanks
@AnjinSan19668 күн бұрын
Thank you for the great summary of decks in the meta. The sound breaks up a few times during this video but its better then before. Take care and have a great weekend!!
@MTGJoe8 күн бұрын
Thanks for letting me know. Will redo the filters. Enjoy the weekend!
@MTGJoe8 күн бұрын
Hi All - please let me know if any audio cuts are coming through on your end. Tried fixing via some mic settings but may need to redo them all given the PC hardware issues I had a couple weeks ago.
@skettaman8 күн бұрын
hey bro your mic is really bad in this video, barely catching your voice just a heads up
@MTGJoe8 күн бұрын
Thanks for the heads up. Will test things out with the filters. I’m my audio test it was fine but that’s usually just 10 sec test
@Kairyumable8 күн бұрын
Wow, Selesnya Devotion is quite close already to Selesnya Company on Pioneer. Really thinking of crafting it altough idk if it's a good time now because Pioneer Masters is not out yet (and I can't craft the sideboard)
@MTGJoe8 күн бұрын
So the company list has been doing reasonable on MTGO pioneer side with it not being an Explorer only deck. Shouldn’t be influenced by masters dropping in terms of phasing stuff out. Deck seems good vs lotus field combo and Niv to light which will be coming with all the tax effects
@NateJollay9 күн бұрын
You did a really good job at explaining the win cons for the decks. Thanks for the in-depth looks
@willdehaven63109 күн бұрын
How many of these decks would translate well to BO1 do you think? I'm so kinda interested in the demon one.
@MTGJoe9 күн бұрын
I’ll have to take a look and see how demon stats are after work, will circle back. Usually Bo1 is punishing for midrange but haven’t kept as close to the format here
@matthewludivico17149 күн бұрын
Explorer has lots of cool deck archetypes. Having a Creativity deck with two copies of a Legendary card as a target seems problematic. I'd rather have a supporting legendary like Xenagos so a combo develops. Into the Fire# is a great option to stick a copy from the hand to the library for a mis-draw.
@clovergroom41049 күн бұрын
Your audio is cutting in and out quite a bit throughout the vid fyi.
@MTGJoe9 күн бұрын
Thanks for the heads up. Will check the gain and see if my voice was too loud at some points.
@andreweggers20609 күн бұрын
I’m new to mtg.. are the side board cards, cards you can switch for the next game? If you know what you’re playing against, and can slot them in instead of what’s in the main deck to begin with?
@MTGJoe9 күн бұрын
Sideboard cards are for traditional standard matches aka standard Best of 3. After the first game both players have the ability to swap cards in their deck with their sideboard. This is the way things are played in paper and allow you to hedge matchups by modifying your deck. If you are just play best of one, I put out a similar video series focusing on the best decks for that format
@willdehaven63109 күн бұрын
There it is! Been waiting for this one.
@WeezyPipes10 күн бұрын
You keep glossing over black discard, and I know it's been around, but I wonder if you have any insights on how the deck is adjusting to the changing meta
@MTGJoe10 күн бұрын
Most of the discard lists, while having a higher play rate, are in the low to mid-50% win rate. The highest is just under 56% with the list below. I think comparatively the demon version is just strong as you don't run the risk of draw discard while your opponent is hellbent. For example, I have been playing the mono red world's list and frequently empty my hand by turn 3. The demon deck leverage the room for card draw and can quickly close out the game with archfiend or the demon token + has slasher combo potentially as well. About Name Mono-Black Discard Deck 23 Swamp 2 Cut Down 2 Duress 3 Go for the Throat 4 Liliana of the Veil 2 Sheoldred, the Apocalypse 4 Hopeless Nightmare 2 Virtue of Persistence 2 Aclazotz, Deepest Betrayal 3 Bitter Triumph 4 Deep-Cavern Bat 3 Preacher of the Schism 4 Bandit's Talent 2 Ruthless Negotiation
@taer_hael80804 күн бұрын
@@MTGJoe Hey ! Returning player to MTG and really appreciate your content :). Would you have a list for the demon version of the discard deck you mention pls ? Thx a lot !
@MTGJoe4 күн бұрын
Hey it’s not a demon deck. It’s just heavy discard that leverages the talent as the win con
@HelaEnjoyer10 күн бұрын
You need something like divine purge to out the light paws decks. One-for-one removal doesn't work well
@MTGJoe10 күн бұрын
purge is great vs auras, just seemed equally as painful in the sam deck to be running it