Mr Chuckles is on strike!
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@Tautropfenoase
@Tautropfenoase 3 сағат бұрын
Fantastic, helpful Video. Thank you so much.👌💛
@cziffra1980
@cziffra1980 3 сағат бұрын
Cheers, do follow for plenty more videos
@cziffra1980
@cziffra1980 3 сағат бұрын
The musical example is the gigue from Bach's French suite number 5
@cziffra1980
@cziffra1980 3 сағат бұрын
Here's a short film showing freestyle technique in slow motion. kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3mviGV3fpZ8pM0si=LSsA_yzVIRS5gdgp The parallels to the piano are really very close. You can see how the movement above water merely places the hand gently back in, where it actually pauses before starting the real movement to pull the water with intent. Likewise, any lifting should almost always be performed merely as a preliminary action. Rather than whack straight down into moving the key, it's better for the fingertip to spend time directly feeling the resistance of the key, before only then engaging with directness, into the state of balance.
@davidhorvath4601
@davidhorvath4601 23 сағат бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/nJ7PmWVqrbiVecU
@TK-mf3vx
@TK-mf3vx Күн бұрын
I love how somewhere between 1:50 and 2:00 the melody and the repeated chords start blending in together. Really love that sound. I;m learning this piece currently and once I get to that part I will come back to this video to use it as a reference. Great playing!
@danybaychere5949
@danybaychere5949 2 күн бұрын
Superbe interprétation. Y a t'il moyen de se procurer la partition?
@cziffra1980
@cziffra1980 3 сағат бұрын
Yeah, there's a link to the arranger's channel in the video description.
@ЛейлаИванова-ж8р
@ЛейлаИванова-ж8р 3 күн бұрын
Спасибо. За музыку и исполнение
@jasonsteadmanmusic
@jasonsteadmanmusic 3 күн бұрын
Really enjoyed this. These are some things I've noticed too in my own playing, and I found much of what you've said here to be useful. Regarding articulation with pedal: Do you notice that your pedaling differs between the times you're focusing on holding onto melody notes vs not? For example, does your pedal timing differ between the different examples? and do your articulations affect your pedal timing?
@cziffra1980
@cziffra1980 3 күн бұрын
It's an interesting question, as what we call "pedalling" is often as much about what the hand is doing in association to the foot. Bad pedalling can frequently be not so much a pure mistiming of the foot but rather a failure of the hands to make enough time for the changes to be made with safety and ease. However, that largely ties in again to the need of the hand to spend sufficient time with the keys safely depressed. I think it's largely this way around. Holding notes longer just gives more options, basically. The main thing is that if you don't hold notes effectively, you simply couldn't make as many pedal changes and would have to be far more careful to avoid full changes that kill the sound of important but already released notes. In left hand music there's plenty of half pedalling needed already (when it's impossible to hold the notes) but the less time notes are held for in general, the harder it is to avoid blurring, while using pedal to keep those notes.
@ruscaryt4480
@ruscaryt4480 4 күн бұрын
Another comment, I’m just seeing what pieces you’ve performed. This is a hard one to play well as you have to really get focused and energized, as your restart shows. But look at Sokolov in Helsinki 1987 play this, it’s incomparable.
@cziffra1980
@cziffra1980 3 күн бұрын
Hey, thanks for commenting. I uploaded this years ago and I think there was an edit function so the video started without the brief screw up. It looks like they've somehow ditched the edit and reverted to the raw file. I'll have to go through all the other videos, as God knows what else must have slipped past 😁 BTW I have another film of this more recently where I played through a few of the etudes.
@ruscaryt4480
@ruscaryt4480 4 күн бұрын
This got recommended to me, and I'm glad it did. What a performance. You can definitely hear the Horowitz influence. I wish I could play the piano like this.
@cziffra1980
@cziffra1980 4 күн бұрын
Thanks, it's strange that this seems to have gone up in the algorithms recently, but it's nice that people can appreciate it in spite of the very primitive early digital camera sound.
@lindagunnarson7596
@lindagunnarson7596 7 күн бұрын
Awesome! Thank you!
@lindagunnarson7596
@lindagunnarson7596 8 күн бұрын
Absolutely brilliant! Cleared up a lot of my confusion after watching other videos on the subject!
@cziffra1980
@cziffra1980 7 күн бұрын
Thanks, you may find this one useful too. It's on similar lines but goes into the surprising need for the arm to brake very slightly when "dropping", in order for to pass energy without the crash landing. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hoaYaWyco5aKhtEsi=oJlPEU06kMqOkA-b I've suffered a lot over the years from thinking that over simplified ideas are literally true.
@lindagunnarson7596
@lindagunnarson7596 7 күн бұрын
@ Thanks! 🙏
@sigrice
@sigrice 12 күн бұрын
Nice! Thank you, subscribed
@cziffra1980
@cziffra1980 11 күн бұрын
Cheers, plenty of videos to come. Don't be put off by occasional bursts of ventriloquism with Mr Chuckles 🙂
@royholmes2570
@royholmes2570 13 күн бұрын
Well done! Thanks be to God you have made this video. Every clip this man puts out online needs to be rebuffed and I’ve only listened to the first one. He is so off course, and is influencing negatively thousands of would be pianists who hang on to his every word. It must be said that academic credentials which have nothing to do with piano playing are of no benefit to anyone, and even he admits this project is a vanity project. I only came across part 1 yesterday and have already crossed swords with him. He relies on mellifluous dulcet tones hinting at a degree of intimacy, lighting effects, fancy simulations of the fingers etc. All bearing NO relationship with actual piano playing whatsoever. I don’t think he plays at all! And to see his exposition of the thumb just made me see red! The tension and pushing into the key Is so strong there’s an equal and opposite reaction in the arm. Unbelievable. Keep up the good work.
@stieli5816
@stieli5816 14 күн бұрын
thx for the tips, complete new beginner here, helped me a lot! lucky that i found this. finally someone who gets straight to the point, you deserve more views. Keep up the good work!
@cziffra1980
@cziffra1980 14 күн бұрын
Thanks, do give a follow as there's plenty more to come. Some of the videos are about fairly advanced techniques, but I do usually try to relate most things back to fundamental concepts that can be tried at any level.
@cziffra1980
@cziffra1980 17 күн бұрын
This is the film showing slow motion thumb passing at extreme speed. kzbin.info/www/bejne/n4KTnmueoqyMrJosi=q-NcKWzAgi9fWRl1 I have no doubt that it is equally possible to have less legato/passing of the thumb at the same speeds. However, it simply disproves common claims that have widely been used to undermine the value of learning physical legato/thumb passing in general. As I show in the film, thumb passing doesn't have to involve anything particularly remarkable from the thumb, even to achieve legato under finger 5. It does not involve a special range of motion. My right hand thumb is actually rather poor at reaching across the palm, due to lack of freedom to bend the middle joint. The ability of the arm to assist does not mean the thumb has no role of its own to play. Even when using more arm based shifts, as I show at the end, it is most effective when the thumb at least contributes something to shortening the throw of the arm. There is no good foundation that doesn't involve legato at least some of the time
@chickenfaceCurlyWurly
@chickenfaceCurlyWurly 17 күн бұрын
😬I want video😬
@cziffra1980
@cziffra1980 17 күн бұрын
This is a video.
@ShiouderWannkossak
@ShiouderWannkossak 21 күн бұрын
❤ FANTASTIC PIANIST ❤
@paultyrrell8060
@paultyrrell8060 26 күн бұрын
Love your insights and content please keep it up ❤
@elysee82
@elysee82 27 күн бұрын
와 소리가 정말 좋아요 감동받았습니다 감사합니다 하루가 행복해졌어요
@kurkike
@kurkike Ай бұрын
The fact that I play this song makes me think you are on a completely different level!
@mudbone7706
@mudbone7706 Ай бұрын
Seems like you are saying to use rotation to help you balance the arms over a finger or fingers (in case of a chord) rather than to actually play the keys. Is that a fair assessment?
@cziffra1980
@cziffra1980 Ай бұрын
Basically, yes, although I'd say "around" rather than "over". It's not so much about looking for a perfect alignment over each key as just responding around the changing centres. Obviously it can also be used to contribute energy to moving keys to some degree, but I think it's hugely misleading to portray this as the main reason for rotation.
@Simrealism
@Simrealism Ай бұрын
I used Dan the Composer to learn piano, and he teaches to do what is most comfortable and it's worked great for me. If I feel discomfort I stop and figure out what feels best for my hands. Dan is a big fan of Chopin and Liszt. Thank you, Dan.
@HotKooks
@HotKooks Ай бұрын
Only a couple little slips after that 1:45 mark 😮
@leereichel2785
@leereichel2785 Ай бұрын
Very helpful video, thanks!
@cziffra1980
@cziffra1980 Ай бұрын
Cheers, do subscribe for more. I've been speaking about these issues in more recent videos as well.
@DinaPizarroObregon
@DinaPizarroObregon Ай бұрын
Esto es como dos pianistas tocando al mismo tiempo pero diferentes notas de una sola musica y me pasa con la sonata para dos pianos de mozart y el primer movimiento de la segunda piano partitura de bach
@cziffra1980
@cziffra1980 Ай бұрын
This video links to the score. kzbin.info/www/bejne/p5TOpX5vrZl1prcsi=7jnZYzD_td6VmLtE
@Usercat365
@Usercat365 Ай бұрын
Hi mate! What a wonderful emotion, your playing is amazing ❤️ can you please give me a mail to text you?
@MusicalSeriesChannel
@MusicalSeriesChannel Ай бұрын
This homemade recording is the BEST op.8 no.12 i've heard!!!
@cziffra1980
@cziffra1980 Ай бұрын
Thanks, I may have to come back it again one day in better sound on my grand piano. However, I think the dud sound hits a kind of sweet spot - between letting the spirit of the performance come through while also helping to conceal the imprecisions :-)
@Ash1nerTV
@Ash1nerTV 12 күн бұрын
It is a brilliant performance, and I think the sound quality only helps it to sound more tragic. I would also suggest listening to Sultanov play this if you haven’t already as he is magnificent too.
@Aleksandr_Skrjabin
@Aleksandr_Skrjabin 9 күн бұрын
@@Ash1nerTV Yeah it sounded great with this quality, just like Scriabin's recording of it, and Sultanov ofcourse plays it the best, what a pianist that guy is man.
@cziffra1980
@cziffra1980 Ай бұрын
After some research, it seems that the supposed Chopin arrangement may be a hoax. It came from seemingly nowhere. In any case, regardless of whoever made that version, Lim's altered version is a huge improvement.
@amandalittley7120
@amandalittley7120 Ай бұрын
Love this
@thepianocornertpc
@thepianocornertpc 2 ай бұрын
My God!
@MarlySantAnna-i3n
@MarlySantAnna-i3n 2 ай бұрын
Nice :)
@mo5467
@mo5467 2 ай бұрын
😂😊
@zugzwang2007
@zugzwang2007 2 ай бұрын
Really instructive! I imagine the club head (like the hand in the whipping motion) accelerates because the "break" in the wrists converts all of the arm energy into the radial motion of the club. What you say about how to play the key and get away in time is very convincing (and I loved your Horowitz imitations).
@cziffra1980
@cziffra1980 2 ай бұрын
Actually, there's some complexity here that I don't want to be overly certain about. I used an example with bending and unbending and it's true that clubs do this to at least some degree. However you could also account for lag in radial motion, even if the club were theoretically rigid. It isn't but there are certainly both factors in play, rather than only release of the bend. My suspicion is that the wrists unbending at first provide the radial motion, but that to actively accelerate into contact would then introduce the risk of bending the club head back during contact. I think the wrists initially generate active acceleration but they too have to release to allow the club head to properly unbend the flex. Either way, it's important to experiment with an instant of active slowing at the piano, given the need to deal with keybed well. In golf however, it may be a little more in question as to whether starting to slow a split second before contact allows for greater unbending of the flexion in the club. The only issue is what offers better acceleration, rather than any trade off between withdrawing mass from an impact, vs fully maximising acceleration. I'm pretty convinced by it, but I'd like to see some exact measurement via really precise scientific equipment to measure instantaneous speed at different points.
@cziffra1980
@cziffra1980 2 ай бұрын
By the way, Benjamin Grosvenor also lifts that Horowitz idea from the Liszt sonata. I didn't really do it here, but I also like to bring out the thumb A before the middle line. It results in an exact quote of the first four notes of the prelude to Tristan and Isolde coming out.
@cziffra1980
@cziffra1980 2 ай бұрын
My theory is that the order of events is that arms lead, leaving the club head behind and then the wrists do uncock, thus making a far faster acceleration of the whole club (via the shorter radius of motion from the wrists), but that they then end up slowing just in time to avoid causing further lag into the ball, and to allow the unbending to peak.
@cziffra1980
@cziffra1980 2 ай бұрын
Okay, here we go. www.golfdigest.com/story/hand-speed-breaking-speed-golf-swing-release-golf-iq It makes me almost a hundred percent certain that it indeed involves the wrists uncocking to increase speed but then ALSO actively declerating just in time to unleash the bend in the club. BTW there's a lot of amazingly detailed stuff out there in forums and studies featuring graphs of different parts before impact. I can't understand how we are so far behind in piano playing that people literally think the weight of the arm can produce fast octaves and should fall right into the landing, when people are going so deep and precise in other fields.
@zugzwang2007
@zugzwang2007 2 ай бұрын
@@cziffra1980 Makes sense. If the unwinding of the wrists is accelerating the club head, it should reach maximum speed at the exact point when the unwinding has finished (unless there is some other acceleration still going on, coming from the legs, but I think this is more typical of cricket or tennis than golf).
@SuperDieu_6666
@SuperDieu_6666 2 ай бұрын
Not the AI art 😭😭😭 great video as always !!! 👍
@cziffra1980
@cziffra1980 2 ай бұрын
Cheers, just thought I'd try it for one. I was hoping to get an amusing image of Indiana Jones cracking a whip against a grand piano, but that was as close as it got!
@cziffra1980
@cziffra1980 2 ай бұрын
This slow motion film of a long distance golf champion is as clear as can be. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jJvOeYyNgNiWo5osi=eBXM8czZYdjZ7aN- It shows that we don't create effective acceleration merely by unifying parts together (as if they act as a single rigid structure). Rather, the roles of different parts occur slightly out of sync with each other, in a specific order of events. His hands almost arrive at the ball, with a huge sense of lag to the club head, long before the club head finally takes on phenomenal acceleration relative to the slowing hands. It then catches up quite so rapidly as to finally align the club just as it comes into contact with the ball. When playing from height, we create some lag in the fingertips during the start of the arm descent (via cocking of the wrist) before the arm slows and allows the wrist to release the stored potential energy. The part that delivers acceleration to the key is the very last part to accelerate for itself, but it's where the most important acceleration occurs. The arm initiates everything, but its role can only be meaningfully understood in relation to how it can whip out the fingers into the key.
@cziffra1980
@cziffra1980 2 ай бұрын
This is a full recording of Villani's arrangement of Dido's lament. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hYjUnoN3f7p2qsUsi=QRug3h27kkHNSaHt
@cziffra1980
@cziffra1980 2 ай бұрын
This is the interesting golf video, that found while I was looking for evidence of the same whipping that applies to piano playing. The example he uses at the start (with whipping out a towel) is very similar to what I have used myself, to show how to land safely from a height. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qaTRZmyufKebidUsi=0OJVDAxlNDeItXSF The concept of lag (where further hand acceleration leaves the club head behind) is very similar to in piano playing. When energy comes from afar (in the body or arm) it isn't guaranteed to reach the fingertip. Although arm and body have a very real role, to simply throw them in at the piano may produce a similar lag. If they move faster than the fingertip/key connection, the added speed of the travelling mass increases impact without even contributing more tone. Although we can START acceleration in the arm as a run up to the key, it's by marginally slowing the arm down that the energy is then properly channeled into the fingertip. Pile the arm right into the landing, and you only produce more lag and more impact on landing.
@sullivanworks9777
@sullivanworks9777 2 ай бұрын
Didn’t he study in Limerick?
@dcog2882
@dcog2882 2 ай бұрын
Are you the guy who makes the Denim glasses ?
@cziffra1980
@cziffra1980 2 ай бұрын
😂 No, it certainly is pretty blue though, isn't it? Both in terms of Mr Chuckles' sense of humour and the colour scheme. Rather than change the curtains I might get a second jacket in red someday.
@TeoKaiGuan
@TeoKaiGuan 2 ай бұрын
oooh so awesome sir - wonderful!
@eusebiuslesage
@eusebiuslesage 2 ай бұрын
I've just discovered your channel, and I'm so glad I found it. It's quite rare to find such an in-depth breakdown of piano technique. This topic particularly resonates with what my teacher tried to explain to me a few weeks ago. He was talking about Neuhaus's idea of 'dead weight' versus 'live weight' (I'm translating what he said to me in French, so these might not be the exact terms in English). To me, this seems very similar to what you're explaining. Are you familiar with this terminology, and do you think it's the same idea?
@cziffra1980
@cziffra1980 2 ай бұрын
Interesting. We use the term dead weight plenty in English, but I've never heard the opposite idea of "live" weight. It's certainly logical to have a counterpart, although I can't say for sure what precisely it would refer to. One thing is that many will point at the idea of partially restraining while descending, rather than literally being in free fall. However, the thing I stress is still extremely distinct from anything based on weight causing any downward movement. That would be part of the picture sometimes, but the big one for me is where weight simply absorbs what might otherwise have been a larger up movement.
@cziffra1980
@cziffra1980 2 ай бұрын
The Gilels video kzbin.info/www/bejne/i5jJeqmcjtl2rLssi=ltLfHNvco_kTV8jh By the way, it's perfectly possible that some arm weight method teachers mean all the things I define here, yet don't necessarily pinpoint the distinction between the two very distinct functions. It may work fine with their students, as long as they can trigger a feel for the balance between up and down, via practical methods and one and one interventions. The biggest concern today is that the spread of information online means a lot of people will only hear the claims that arm weight gives the energy that accelerates the keys, or that we play by dropping arm energy on each note and not finger energy. Even without directly claiming that this is what arm weight means, it's often the default of what people will assume - whenever they hear talk of arm weight. Unless we actually DEFINE that arm weight mainly plays an entirely separate role (to that of falling down to directly give the energy and acceleration to move the key) then people are likely to be stuck in a severely distorted impression of reality. We at least need to define an adjacent role of being an absorber that slows down the response to moving the keys, if we are going to avoid major risks of causing gross misunderstanding whenever speaking of arm weight.
@maulik95
@maulik95 2 ай бұрын
Damn I just watched your Op. 8 No. 12 from 17 years ago
@cziffra1980
@cziffra1980 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, I don't know why such an old one has seemed to be getting quite a few views recently. I'll have to go back to playing it again sometime and try in better sound, although it was much easier on the very light action upright.
@maulik95
@maulik95 2 ай бұрын
@@cziffra1980 Please do, would be great to hear it again with modern equipment. Although the upright and 2006 sound has a charm to it that cannot be replicated 😄
@maulik95
@maulik95 2 ай бұрын
The sound quality matches this piece well
@KarmaMechanic988
@KarmaMechanic988 2 ай бұрын
Better get the fucking prenup!
@toddbebbington7397
@toddbebbington7397 2 ай бұрын
Beautifully played, your technique is a masterclass of delicate and sensitive control, very impressive and captivating. I played this piece in my graduation recital, 30 years ago (1994.) and my memory perhaps may be somewhat critical of my student skills back then, I'm sure I probably got through more on a wing a prayer and a little luck. Your recording is of such high quality, it inspires me to revisit this gem from Ravel, and perhaps attempt to emulate just a little of the magic you so skillfully demonstrate. Well done, it's truly beautiful.
@Daniel-qx6bg
@Daniel-qx6bg 2 ай бұрын
He turned this into a piece many can play into a piece no one can play.
@AiChipo
@AiChipo 2 ай бұрын
Every time I hear I love it more