I have an upcoming project, laying out a long book with photos, sidebars, text formatting, etc. Would InCopy work for this, JUST for editorial stuff? Last book I did, it was insane w/ edits via email and word, over the phone, etc.
@thedesigndept6611Ай бұрын
Hey Marc. Absolutely it would work! With lots of different types of text or seperate text boxes (like captions and pull out quotes for example) InCopy will create a separate assignment for each text box. A complex text design just means there are more assignments. My only recommendation, if possible, is to house the whole project on something like dropbox so both design and editorial can easily assess the files. You're last book sounds like a nightmare! I hope you have some success with InCopy!
@MarcCardwellАй бұрын
@@thedesigndept6611 thanks so much! We’re gonna do a test to see if it works for us both. The author is a friend, so I can yell at him about too many edits when I want.
@DanielVitter6 ай бұрын
Your videos showcasing InDesign/InCopy workflows are so well produced. Thanks for putting this out into the world. Hoping to get my teams using InCopy soon. I know it'll save us so much time over the PDF-driven editing process we use now.
@thedesigndept66116 ай бұрын
Thanks Daniel - it really is a total game changer once you get everyone onboard. All the best!
@jdubs-569 ай бұрын
@hirchberg9 ай бұрын
hi! is there a 'suggested editing' feature to track changes?
@leagreene3270 Жыл бұрын
What would be the purpose of unlinking the text at the end?
@thedesigndept6611 Жыл бұрын
Hey Lea, I un-link the text assignments for housekeeping only. If I've been working with an external team I will unlink all the text at the end of the project and package the InDesign file to archive. If all the text is on one layer then it is super easy to assign that whole layer to InCopy in the future if the project becomes active again. Thanks.
@leagreene3270 Жыл бұрын
@@thedesigndept6611 Interesting. Thank you. I guess it is a good idea and then you know this is the final project and no alterations can be done elsewhere.
@PaulBartholomew74 Жыл бұрын
Hi! I've recently started writing my first novel. I'm a graphic designer - I have a CC account, and know InDesign pretty much inside out. So, is there an advantage to using InCopy (as an author) verse using InDesign? I've never used InCopy... does it spell and grammar check on the fly like MS Word?
@thedesigndept6611 Жыл бұрын
Hey Paul, congrats on the novel! When it comes to the word processing power of InCopy and InDesign, they're pretty similar. They both have the standard spelling tools of 'dynamic spelling' and 'autocorrect' (in the edit menu). There is no grammar tool in either but maybe there is a plugin? InCopy offers different/striped back views of the text which might be helpful in the editing process. Since you already know InDesign I would be inclined to write and edit in a word processing program then layout in InDesign. InCopy really shines when you have a third party editor who doesn't know InDesign as it removes the need for marked up PDFs. All the best man!
@PaulBartholomew74 Жыл бұрын
@@thedesigndept6611 Great thanks, that's very helpful! Will take your advice :) Cheers.
@fontenehusnorge1191 Жыл бұрын
Great overview. Thank you!
@PeterPanQuails Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for explaining this so clearly.
@stevenfeven8524 Жыл бұрын
Great video! Please can you let me know what happens when linked text frames are checked out to InCopy? Can you check out an entire story that's linked across multiple pages?
@thedesigndept6611 Жыл бұрын
Hey Steven, Yes, linked text boxes will appear as a single text assignment in the Assignments palette. Checking it out once will give you access to all of the text across as many pages as the text box is linked. New text box = new assignment. Good luck!
@willstarbailey Жыл бұрын
who else is thinking of getting the incopy subscription just to keep their portfolio site up
@zaid_al-hilali Жыл бұрын
So useful, simple and visually clear to have most of what is narrated in writing to make the video even more comprehensible. I'm sharing this video with potential Id/Ic workflow users.
@thedesigndept6611 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Zaid! You’re wonderful comment had made my day! All the best with onboarding InCopy for future projects. You’re in the ‘InCopy InCrowd’ now my friend!
@brunettebetti Жыл бұрын
My hunch is just that using InCopy to InDesign is slightly less painful (due to ASCI character mapping glitches, etc.) than Google Docs to InDesign. Google Docs you can share with an unlimited # of people to collaborate, whereas with InCopy, they all have to have a CC license (convenient, Adobe ...). This to me is a barrier to productivity and not economically worthwhile.
@GOBALLOS Жыл бұрын
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@MrKarnaukhov Жыл бұрын
It means that for such a work flow, Indesign- InCopy requires to have a two Adobe license?
@thedesigndept6611 Жыл бұрын
Hey Andrii - You can get an individual licence for Indesign ($30A per/m) which the designer would need. The editor would need InCopy ($8A per/m). Good luck
@samkececi1002 Жыл бұрын
This is insane that such a crazy workflow (and multiple roles, programs) is needed to complete a fairly basic task. Adobe in a nutshell lol
@L1623VP Жыл бұрын
Totally agree. So much software just gets in the way. Just because there is an application for everything these days doesn't mean it's necessary, improves productivity, or simplifies processes. Simplifying is best. Needing to know how to operate five or six different applications to accomplish the same task that didn't require them not so long ago seems to bog systems down, not improve them.
@devonbrowning8665 Жыл бұрын
My biggest lingering question after watching this video (and trying the InDesign/InCopy workflow), is HOW do I save the INDD and InCopy file in a single place in the cloud? You suggest Dropbox, but that would still require the editors to download the file to their computer, which breaks the link to the primary INDD file. SharePoint does not support opening Adobe products (they must be downloaded), and Adobe Cloud itself does not support opening InDesign or InCopy in the cloud. So the only solution I can find is to package the InCopy files, send them out to each editor, and then have them send them back, so that I can relink them. But this is very laborious and breaks the links to multiple people who could indeed be editing at the same time. Am I missing something here? Thanks for any feedback you have!
@thedesigndept6611 Жыл бұрын
Hey Devon - you’ve highlighted the most annoying problem with using an InCopy workflow. The centralised workflow. I believe that this is why InCopy hasn’t had the impact that it should have. I advise my editors (which luckily have been Mac based) to download the Dropbox desktop application so they can access the files directly through the finder without having to download them each time. This has been kind of successful until I get someone who is on a PC, working offline or who has to download the files. In this case I revert to the workflow you suggest by passing the .icml files to the editorial team. It’s obviously not ideal. It’s surprising that Adobe Cloud hasn’t figured out a way to facilitate this workflow. Maybe someone else out there has a successful platform that supports the InCopy workflow?
@stemsyndicate Жыл бұрын
@@thedesigndept6611 Thanks for the great video! This may be an obvious question, but why doesn't the Dropbox desk app work on PC? Thanks!
@PeterPanQuails Жыл бұрын
OneDrive should work.
@Ari_3000Ай бұрын
@@PeterPanQuails I was gonna ask about OneDrive, did you try that?
@vaikunthramakrishnan Жыл бұрын
Can't believe this channel is 2 years old and has only 6 videos. Whoever the creative team is - amazing job with this and please give us more!
@thedesigndept6611 Жыл бұрын
Vaikunth! You’ve just made my day and perhaps just encouraged me to get more content up! Thanks you have have a wonderful day!
@earthmommaliving Жыл бұрын
I agree! This is helping me wrap my head around this new process. Trying to see if it's a viable change to our antiquated workflow.
@daniapperson2344 Жыл бұрын
I agree!!
@winwinsri Жыл бұрын
Fantastic Explanation. Thank you!
@RobertDuncan-kj2ym Жыл бұрын
Well, that was thorough, clear, informative and useful. 10 minutes well spent - thanks!
@thedesigndept6611 Жыл бұрын
No - thank you for giving me 10 minutes of your time! I'm so glad you found this video useful!
@Gemba192 Жыл бұрын
Holy shit, can you delete this video? The resolution of screen capture is horrible. thx. Again, and better.
@Slava-Motovilov-Racing2 жыл бұрын
What a fantastic overview! Thank you very much, Design Dept 👏
@thedesigndept66112 жыл бұрын
My pleasure Slava! So glad you've found it useful!
@kevinbaier90822 жыл бұрын
Really great summary, shared with clients 😊. Thanks Design Dept!
@thedesigndept66112 жыл бұрын
You just made my morning Kevin! So glad you found this useful!
@rowenaeureka24692 жыл бұрын
Thank you! This was just the information I was looking for.
@thedesigndept66112 жыл бұрын
Thanks Rowena! I'm so glad you found my tutorial helpful.
@SoftwareManiacLSM2 жыл бұрын
Really nice overview. Thank you.
@raulcabral52132 жыл бұрын
Question: which is better to do all work in Word and transfer to ID or do it in IC Adobe and then transfer? thank you
@thedesigndept66112 жыл бұрын
Good question Raul. It depends on who is writing the content. In a perfect world I would be getting authors to write directly into InCopy (the file would ideal be set up with paragraph and character from the sample design) because the transition from InCopy to InDesign is seamless. However I've found most writers are more comfortable in word. Although its slightly messier, as long as the word document had been styled correctly (using paragraph and character styles) then matching the word styles to the existing InDesign styles during the import process should be fine. Thanks for reaching out and I hope I've helped you!
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@mereciv99032 жыл бұрын
Very cool
@mereciv99032 жыл бұрын
I love the workflow of InDesign and InCopy WOW
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@reutin2 жыл бұрын
Too bad we cant use creative cloud storage for syncing InCopy And InDesign and should have our own cloud. That would solve the problem of simultanious edits of InCopy file by editors team.
@thedesigndept66112 жыл бұрын
Brilliant idea Nikolay! The syncing of files is what scares most larger organisations away. This feels like a no-brainer for Adobe
@reginat5952 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! My company is moving into an InCopy workflow with a new project and it sounds absolutely fabulous! Thank you for this video, it has really explained things simply. No more editorial pdfs marked up with 700 comments! They can edit the thing directly:) Wooo hoo!
@thedesigndept66112 жыл бұрын
Congratulations Regina! I really hope your first project goes well! Once everyone is on board it completely changes how quickly and effectively the work gets done! All the best.
@thedesigndept66112 жыл бұрын
Congratulations Regina! I really hope your first project goes well! Once everyone is on board it completely changes how quickly and effectively the work gets done! All the best.
@hellbraker3 жыл бұрын
As an editor, I work on pdf only. I have comments coming from author for further edits at the proof stage. How does InCopy handle pdfs? Acrobat Reader is painful to work with. If a pdf has around 600+ edits to be done, Acrobat just slows down to a crawl. Please again bear in mind this is pdf.
@thedesigndept66113 жыл бұрын
Hey - firstly I’m so sorry that you are having to edit PDFs - that sounds clunky. InCopy only works with the InDesign file, it doesn’t work with the PDF. If you are having to make 600+ edits then you should have access to the native InDesign file. I’m sorry if this is not the case. I didn’t even realise you could make edits directly in the PDF!
@hellbraker3 жыл бұрын
@@thedesigndept6611 well we are not directly editing anything. You, know just marking up, commenting, highlights. Things like that. These then are passed on to typesetting, where changes are incorporated to the pdf. But thanks anyways.
@thedesigndept66113 жыл бұрын
@@hellbraker I see. Cool. The idea then is that you directly do those edits into InCopy and bypass marking up the PDF entirely. Best of luck!
@academiereparation36623 жыл бұрын
I can't so your Indesign interface, very small :(
@thedesigndept66113 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your feedback! Next tutorial I'll make sure I get some closer shots of the interface. This is my first tutorial and your feedback will make the next one that much better!
@bcBiz3 жыл бұрын
Author, for technical, accdemic work.?
@thedesigndept66113 жыл бұрын
Hey Sidney, Sure. InCopy is awesome for complex type types like technical and instructional books. Whenever a body of text is used it can be linked into InCopy. I would avoid using it on super heavy mathematical text books with lots of equations although it could still be used for chapter openers and plain text instructions/explanations. Thanks for watching!
@anggelozea3 жыл бұрын
Eina, Beautiful typography. ♥.♥
@thedesigndept66113 жыл бұрын
Thanks Anggelo! I'm glad you love Eina as much as I do!
@edujyoung3 жыл бұрын
Are you a kiwi living in AU? Love the simplicity of your video tutorials 👌🏽
@thedesigndept66113 жыл бұрын
Hey Jude! Why yes, I am a kiwi in Oz! Thanks so much for your feedback - simple is clear so that is quite the compliment!
@BQPhotography073 жыл бұрын
As a designer this helped a lot!!
@thedesigndept66113 жыл бұрын
So glad you found it helpful! Thanks for mentioning it!
@MohammadAMM013 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this Video! 👍
@MohammadAMM013 жыл бұрын
I really like how you use fonts in your video. Nice!
@thedesigndept66113 жыл бұрын
Thanks again Abu! I'm so happy you liked it! Have a super day!
@MohammadAMM013 жыл бұрын
Could you please to say what program do you use for creating video?
@thedesigndept66113 жыл бұрын
Sure Abu, I use Adobe After Effects. Thanks for watching.
@MohammadAMM013 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for this tutorial. I appreciate your work! Useful tips :)
@callybooboo3 жыл бұрын
Excellent Tutorial! I never thought of using this for Socials. I'll give it a go. The best thing is it's easy for clients after creating their branding.
@thedesigndept66113 жыл бұрын
Thanks V! It’s been a real game changer in giving clients autonomy over creating their social media content!
@teirvin3 жыл бұрын
This deserves way more views. Great tutorial!
@thedesigndept66113 жыл бұрын
You just made my day Troy Irvin! I'm so glad you found it useful! Have a super day!
@Bestenouf3 жыл бұрын
I have subscribed. So, a new author can use incopy to write through to publication? I appreciate you.
@thedesigndept66113 жыл бұрын
Thanks Michael. I'm so glad you found the video helpful. I appreciate you too!
@FabioGarciaO3 жыл бұрын
Thanks from Colombia. Very useful
@lagoriasuppachannel3 жыл бұрын
good video, workflow top description, but horrible pronunciation
@ryanharris72953 жыл бұрын
Ever heard of New Zealand mate...
@thedesigndept66113 жыл бұрын
Ha! Kia kaha Ryan!
@thedesigndept66113 жыл бұрын
Hello again! I’m having trouble replying to comments I’m getting about this tutorial! I get notifications about the message but it doesn’t appear beneath the video so I can’t reply! If anyone knows how to fix this I’d be grateful! Sorry Sampletear, this response is a bit late... Original message sampletear Thank you so much for the nice video! I have one Problem: I created the InDesign file and made an assignment. The Editor is writing inside the assignment, not the InDesign file, because the InDesign file is local. I added new elements to the InDesign file and inked them to the assignment as well. But the updates will not show in the assignment. Do you maybe know what is wrong? Thanks if you find time to answer! Response: Hello! I’m so glad you found my video helpful. Without actually being able to see the files in question I'm going to have to make a few assumptions. Firstly, when InDesign creates an ‘assignment’ it produces a .icma file that it automatically adds into an ‘assignments’ folder alongside the InDesign document. When your editor is working on that .icma file using InCopy and not through InDesign you, as the designer will not get a warning that it has been checked out. Once the editor has checked that assignment back in at their end you will then get the yellow hazard triangle saying you need to update the file. Much like what happens if you edit an image outside of Indesign - you need to update the link. Now if you are creating new assignments (so new text boxes) and adding them to InCopy you should get the option to add them to the existing assignment (Indesign default name is ‘Assignment 1’). If you add the new assignments and DON’T assign a location then Indesign will put them into a folder called “Unassigned InCopy Content” in the Assignments tab. You can drag them to the master assignment folder (The default “Assignment 1”) you originally set up within the Assignments tab. You’ll not be able to add text to an existing assignment if someone else has it checked out. Your changes will be overridden once the assignment is checked back in.
@thedesigndept66113 жыл бұрын
Hello! I’m having trouble replying to comments I’m getting about this tutorial! I get notifications about the message but it doesn’t appear beneath the video so I can’t reply! If anyone knows how to fix this I’d be grateful! Original Message: Manuel Perez Hello, I have a question. I'm a graphic designer. I love working with InDesign but still learning the tricks. I currently working on a large project with different editors and I thought this would be a great opportunity to learn InCopy. Although my team prefers to work with MS Word, I'm interested in learning on my own this workflow. This part confuses me: in minute 07:14 the VO says "While you have the document checked out no one else can edit it" but then in minute 07:25 the VO says "Multiple people can have the document open and be working on separate areas". Can someone explain to me how would this work? Is it that two-or-more-people have the document open in their computer, yet only one at a time can check-out the text box, or the entire document while everyone else only reads and waits for the text box/document to be checked back in?; or is each person able to check out a different text box? Response: Hey Manuel, Thanks for taking the time to watch my tutorial. Sorry for the confusion, let me clarify! When you add a text box into InCopy (creating an assignment) it makes one ‘assignment’ per text box. If you had a novel for example that was one continuous text tread, you would only have one assignment that only one person would be able to check out and edit it. Everyone else would still be able to open and view the InDesign file through InCopy but not edit the exact assignment (text box including its thread) that someone else has checked out. If you are working on a publication such as a magazine for example, it would be more likely that each article would have its own text tread. So one person could have the article on page 2 checked out while someone else could have a different article on page 6 checked out at the same time. Different people can edit separate assignments in the same document at the same time! I hope that helps. All the best with implementing an InCopy workflow!