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@Samuelselevatorchannel
@Samuelselevatorchannel Күн бұрын
Did it use to be led indicator or was it LCD?
@TheDragonFire123
@TheDragonFire123 Күн бұрын
@@Samuelselevatorchannel Most likely LCD since install.
@cakeman8406
@cakeman8406 Күн бұрын
It's a shame it's been replaced, and an extra shame I got busted
@beebee5633
@beebee5633 Күн бұрын
Indeed it is a shame for me. I was actually after what was on the video above.
@TheDragonFire123
@TheDragonFire123 Күн бұрын
@beebee5633 You were the one who suggested it to Cakeman, directly leading to him getting caught. Yet you didn't even show any sympathy for what you've done. I would have expected you to at least apologise for that.
@beebee5633
@beebee5633 Күн бұрын
@@TheDragonFire123 I'm a lift enthusiast as well, but sorry.
@cakeman8406
@cakeman8406 3 күн бұрын
I love the voice 😋
@TheDragonFire123
@TheDragonFire123 Күн бұрын
There seem to be a lot of voices you like.
@cakeman8406
@cakeman8406 Күн бұрын
@ yeah
@cakeman8406
@cakeman8406 4 күн бұрын
Hi, what's the difference between Otis 300VFE and Otis 2000VF? I'm kinda curious
@TheDragonFire123
@TheDragonFire123 Күн бұрын
2000 VF is a European product and generally didn't make it to our market; actual examples are clearly marked. This would be more likely a Concept 200, but the title won't be changed for historical reasons. Actual mechanical differences between 2000 VF, 300VFE and Concept 200 are not known for sure, but the former two sound similar to each other.
@longrunner258
@longrunner258 9 күн бұрын
These NCQ 7200.7s are the Puma platform (it's ironic how Seagate moved away from the snow theme right when they took power efficiency seriously by switching to buck converters, although in any case Alpine *is* implied to have a direct developmental descendant in Blizzard), by the way (despite the HDA still being labeled as ALPINE). Most of my own *are* healthy, although the non-NCQ models and precursors - Aspen (Barracuda ATA III), Snowmass (Barracuda ATA IV), Avalanche (Barracuda ATA V) and Alpine (other 7200.7s) - often got *very* hot indeed (easily up to the mid-60s of °C, in the underventilated consumer shitboxes); still, those with Agere MCUs and the Texas Instruments SH6950 survive the heat (and humidity for that matter) better than any other drive I've known, and even after reallocating a modest group of sectors, they often keep going for a while before suffering any further problems…
@longrunner258
@longrunner258 9 күн бұрын
Sounds like Seagate at least implemented more-aggressive dynamic braking to reduce the wear in this model.
@TheDragonFire123
@TheDragonFire123 9 күн бұрын
An interesting thing is that this only works when power off is requested; otherwise, the same old contact start stop process applies. This quirk also seems to be shared with Toshiba's enterprise drives too, although no contact dragging there.
@longrunner258
@longrunner258 9 күн бұрын
At least the start/stop itself sounds normal and smooth again, rather than deliberately roughened as on the old Brinks and Pharaoh (and worst of all, the Maxtor DiamondCrash/MaXCrime drives which started that scam). So I'd bet on these still outsurviving (at least earlier) Pharaoh proper, even if they don't make the full 50,000 cycle standard…
@TheDragonFire123
@TheDragonFire123 Күн бұрын
It's funnier when they try to rough up the startup of a V11... which don't have contact start-stop. What I wonder though is if these will do better than similar age Bacalls. Of course, there isn't a similar age Bacall, but for transitional 2018 ones... maybe.
@longrunner258
@longrunner258 9 күн бұрын
Is the main controller chip (the largest 176-pin QFP) from Agere (pretty good) or STMicroelectronics (not so good)? Especially if it's STMicroelectronics (although even Agere can gradually degrade after *this* time, so the NEC read/write channels on Barracuda ATA I/II/III and their preceding 5400rpm Medalists were probably best of all), then its integral read/write channel is probably what's degrading (not the HDA itself), so you can probably revive the drive with a PCB swap (unfortunately you can't interchange Agere with STMicroelectronics given their different electrical characteristics); just make sure to get a *whole* working donor drive (the ST3160827AS/ST3120827AS/ST380817AS PCBs will happily interchange as long as they have the same components and firmware version), as if you naïvely buy a separate PCB its read/write channel is probably just as bad. Quantum's Fireball EL/EX/CR/CX were *quite* the spiritual ancestors to these, in that they are also exceptionally-reliable mechanically, but their read/write channels (Lucent, the precursor to Agere on these) can gradually degrade too; but thankfully they're equally happy with PCB swaps between different capacities (as long as you stay within the same series, of course). They even used motor drivers from one reliable manufacturer (Panasonic) and one dubious (Philips), although at least (unlike the SH6950 and SMOOTH) those had the decency to be pin-compatible. While swapping PCBs you should check the condition of the silver-plated PCB pads (both for the heads and motor) - these can tarnish heavily, so especially if your drive still has a non-RoHS HDA (which you can identify by shiny motor pins, wheras the fully-RoHS production has dull motor pins), it may be worth refinishing them by flowing on SnPb solder, then wicking it flat and thoroughly cleaning the flux (basically a makeshift HASL like on the pre-RoHS models; short of that, you can use an eraser to get the tarnishing off). I've done so on all of my own 7200.7s (except the youngest, fully-RoHS ST340014A).
@TheDragonFire123
@TheDragonFire123 9 күн бұрын
Unfortunately, this particular one is the STMicroelectronics-based one. It works fine, however; if I implied it wasn't, then I do apologise.
@longrunner258
@longrunner258 9 күн бұрын
@@TheDragonFire123 Anyway it's particularly displeasing because Seagate's engineers *already* found out that STMicroelectronics wasn't exactly up to making read/write channels - they tried them on the U4/U8/U10 and ultimately concluded that they were too frail even for the U Series, observing that the U5 moved to NEC too (and is indeed the most-reliable of the U Series, despite also being the slowest; the U6 continued with NEC, but skimped on the media protection). Was STMicroelectronics unwilling to lose their share of Seagate's component supply (from their big old BGA controllers without integral read/write channel, on the Barracuda ATA II/III/IV and U5/U6), and did they meddle with Seagate's management? We may never know directly, but I wouldn't put it past STMicroelectronics (they *are* half‑French after all)… So wherever I want *ultimate* reliability, I use those with the Agere+SH6950 combination (although Agere+SMOOTH still beats the converse, IMO); my current S‑tier backup drive is an ST3160827AS with Agere+SH6950. In general I've seen too many STMicroelectronics parts fail where other (actually reputable) manufacturers hold up, so I *never* buy them new (other than direct replacements of something specialized) and I don't even salvage post‑RoHS, non‑specialized parts of theirs. It also seems that IBM already knew to avoid STMicroelectronics, as I've never seen their parts on a Deskstar of the era…
@longrunner258
@longrunner258 9 күн бұрын
At least (being equipped with proper ramps) it's dying *peacefully* rather than its "consumer" counterparts unrecoverably crashing their heads in the landing zone; with 24,188 start/stops and 17,691 power cycles, Pharaoh would *surely* be as dead as its namesake by then.
@cakeman8406
@cakeman8406 10 күн бұрын
Tbh idk why the cab is padded in the left lift whilst the cab isn't padded in the right lift. What does the padding actually do?
@TheDragonFire123
@TheDragonFire123 9 күн бұрын
@cakeman8406 It's there to reduce the possibility of damage by other items to the lift. Padding is normally used in buildings without a dedicated service lift. Only one is padded because tenants are expected to reject the unpadded one if they need to move stuff around.
@cakeman8406
@cakeman8406 11 күн бұрын
I'm kinda curious how these were modded three different times. It was originally installed in the late 60's early 70's? Then in the 90's it got modded, the indicator got modded in 2022. Then a whole lift modernisation in the same year. So yeah, looks like these two have had special treatment.
@TheDragonFire123
@TheDragonFire123 11 күн бұрын
Why did they decide to do it that way, only the management knows.
@epicslapbattlesguy7362
@epicslapbattlesguy7362 13 күн бұрын
This is a really random video, but a nice one.
@TheDragonFire123
@TheDragonFire123 11 күн бұрын
Perhaps there's some logic to be found in randomness, too.
@cakeman8406
@cakeman8406 14 күн бұрын
I am quite interested how older Thyssenkrupp's don't have call cancel whilst the newer ones do. It's always interesting to see the differences
@TheDragonFire123
@TheDragonFire123 11 күн бұрын
It's probably to do with some logic change.
@beebee5633
@beebee5633 17 күн бұрын
I want to tell you something. Those lifts have been replaced with KONE Monospace, so they don't exist anymore. The lift on the left now has telescopic centre opening doors.
@TheDragonFire123
@TheDragonFire123 17 күн бұрын
@@beebee5633 Only the centre one has truly been replaced; at least one of the two flanks has only been modernised. Still effectively the same result, however, but I'm not fussed.
@beebee5633
@beebee5633 17 күн бұрын
@TheDragonFire123 No, they were recently replaced in mid-2024.
@TheDragonFire123
@TheDragonFire123 17 күн бұрын
@@beebee5633 Have you considered the fact I have ridden them well before you made this comment and know what I'm talking about, mate?
@beebee5633
@beebee5633 17 күн бұрын
​​@@TheDragonFire123 I have ridden them. I even have a video of them.
@TheDragonFire123
@TheDragonFire123 17 күн бұрын
@@beebee5633 Cool. Doesn't change the fact that I know what I'm talking about.
@cakeman8406
@cakeman8406 18 күн бұрын
Am I missing a few lifts? As I uploaded 6 lifts in this mall, if so, please list me which lifts I have missed. I have filmed Lift 1, Lift 2, Lift 4, The Otis Gen2 near the cinema, The Otis Gen2 in the library, The Otis Gen2 in the Coles mall
@TheDragonFire123
@TheDragonFire123 17 күн бұрын
There's four Liftronics, so you'd be missing one.
@cakeman8406
@cakeman8406 16 күн бұрын
@ ok, when I go back, I'll film it
@beebee5633
@beebee5633 21 күн бұрын
It should get replaced with a KONE N Monospace.
@TheDragonFire123
@TheDragonFire123 21 күн бұрын
Let's hope Otis does not get priority first with its garbage Life products.
@longrunner258
@longrunner258 23 күн бұрын
These single-platter 250GB 7200.10/DM21 models are the Superhawk platform (Nighthawk was its 160/80GB precursor, with Galaxy for the multi-platter models). 155 reallocations is somewhat higher than commonly found on previous Barracuda generations (usually with no further ill effects as long as it doesn't *continue* growing), but perhaps not totally unreasonable allowing for the higher density (so a same-sized defect would take out more sectors).
@TheDragonFire123
@TheDragonFire123 23 күн бұрын
An interesting fact is that I later obtained an ST3250310AS; it reports as a NHawk Plus in Victoria 5.37. I suppose both names get the point across well that these drives are an enhanced version of the original.
@Samuelselevatorchannel
@Samuelselevatorchannel 24 күн бұрын
Northbridge in QLD or WA?
@TheDragonFire123
@TheDragonFire123 24 күн бұрын
Western Australia. I'm not aware of any Northbridge in Queensland.
@Samuelselevatorchannel
@Samuelselevatorchannel 23 күн бұрын
​ Because you went to wa in 2022 and you put 2021 that's why I got confused @TheDragonFire123
@TheDragonFire123
@TheDragonFire123 22 күн бұрын
Probably should have fixed that before copying and pasting it, should I have.
@Samuelselevatorchannel
@Samuelselevatorchannel 12 күн бұрын
​@@TheDragonFire123😆 all good buddy! ❤
@cakeman8406
@cakeman8406 25 күн бұрын
this has an Otis Plate saying it was installed in 1988. I think it was installed in the 2000s.
@TheDragonFire123
@TheDragonFire123 25 күн бұрын
I would guess whatever Otis tech printed the sign only bothered to look up the Myer Centre's main opening date.
@cakeman8406
@cakeman8406 26 күн бұрын
Hi, just letting you know that spongebobfan17 part 2 stole this video, I already saw it in the video suggestions. This plagiarism seriously needs to stop. Please report the stolen video as I don't think spongebobfan17 part 2 is going to remove it. I am sick and tired of plagiarism, he also used racial slurs which I hate, I do not tolerate it especially with racial slurs. I am also reporting the stolen video and racism
@TheDragonFire123
@TheDragonFire123 25 күн бұрын
@cakeman8406 I haven't found it yet, unfortunately. If you can give the channel handle I will file the DMCA report tonight.
@cakeman8406
@cakeman8406 25 күн бұрын
@ he created a diffreent account to harass you. I will not tolerate that guy, he also stole one of my videos and he better not steal any more
@TheDragonFire123
@TheDragonFire123 25 күн бұрын
@cakeman8406 You need to specify their new channel handle or I will not be able to do anything about them.
@cakeman8406
@cakeman8406 26 күн бұрын
Not a bad mod in my opinion
@TheDragonFire123
@TheDragonFire123 11 күн бұрын
Could certainly be better, however. Compare a recent Otis Compass Plus mod in Sydney which carried over the previous mod's Otilec indicators alongside new LCD ones.
@LizardGecko-n8c
@LizardGecko-n8c 26 күн бұрын
Isn't this SMU235, not 249?
@TheDragonFire123
@TheDragonFire123 26 күн бұрын
Well, I'll be damned. I must have picked up on the wrong note.
@LizardGecko-n8c
@LizardGecko-n8c 26 күн бұрын
@@TheDragonFire123 By the way, it's very hard to distinguish an SMU220 (unrefurbed) with an R-SMU220 (Refurbished 220) from the outside, but it is easy for the 200s, '60s, and IMU100s; I know 106 is getting refurbished, and I think the same can be said about 103 and 110.
@cakeman8406
@cakeman8406 27 күн бұрын
I am never filming these as these are WAY too risky.
@TheDragonFire123
@TheDragonFire123 25 күн бұрын
Fair enough. There is not any more reason for me to do so here.
@dionnygarcia7894
@dionnygarcia7894 27 күн бұрын
Was the matrix display not working?
@TheDragonFire123
@TheDragonFire123 26 күн бұрын
It works perfectly fine in person, but the issue is with its refresh rate, which must be faster than the 30 FPS standard I use for the Nikon A900.
@LizardGecko-n8c
@LizardGecko-n8c 27 күн бұрын
Also read title again and look closely at the unit plate at 0:08.
@TheDragonFire123
@TheDragonFire123 26 күн бұрын
You might notice the description has always had the correct details.
@LizardGecko-n8c
@LizardGecko-n8c 26 күн бұрын
@@TheDragonFire123 Yeah I noticed that, that's why I didn't put the desc in.
@TheDragonFire123
@TheDragonFire123 25 күн бұрын
Sometimes does happen as the title is usually pasted in separately from the description. There are too many points of error in my process, is there.
@LizardGecko-n8c
@LizardGecko-n8c 24 күн бұрын
@@TheDragonFire123 I don't know.
@ballzfansixtynin215
@ballzfansixtynin215 27 күн бұрын
were there similar trains departing at the same time? or was this the actual first train to depart in 2025?
@TheDragonFire123
@TheDragonFire123 19 күн бұрын
The "First train of 2025" tradition is only related to the first one I filmed in that year.
@TheSearleFamily123
@TheSearleFamily123 28 күн бұрын
*reads title and description, rereads title* Don't you mean first of 2025?
@TheDragonFire123
@TheDragonFire123 28 күн бұрын
Yeah that's right. There already was a first train of 2024.
@user-three-four-nine
@user-three-four-nine 28 күн бұрын
What could possibly be so awful to need the label to be obstructed? Is it a massive dent? Did someone scribble on the label? The vagueness has left me more intrigued than ever...
@TheDragonFire123
@TheDragonFire123 28 күн бұрын
Let's just say it's something confidential that I feel the duty to uphold.
@user-three-four-nine
@user-three-four-nine 28 күн бұрын
@@TheDragonFire123 Ah I get it now
@Samuelselevatorchannel
@Samuelselevatorchannel 29 күн бұрын
Interesting mod i like that
@TheDragonFire123
@TheDragonFire123 28 күн бұрын
The audacity to wear the skin of your victim, though.
@Samuelselevatorchannel
@Samuelselevatorchannel 28 күн бұрын
True. But at least they kept the lanterns in place​@@TheDragonFire123
@SMB2K3
@SMB2K3 27 күн бұрын
Otis has something similar in the US called "Series M1"
@cakeman8406
@cakeman8406 Ай бұрын
With that stop button you pushed, I don't actually do that anymore as last time I did, it resulted me in getting stuck for 45 minutes. So I am not going to push it anymore. Also I wonder what this was originally
@TheDragonFire123
@TheDragonFire123 19 күн бұрын
It's a good thing 3300s don't come with stop buttons, what with their tendency to shut down on a safety break.
@cakeman8406
@cakeman8406 Ай бұрын
Why do earlier KDS buttons feel different to the KDS 330?
@TheDragonFire123
@TheDragonFire123 29 күн бұрын
There may have been a change in the microswitch design.
@cakeman8406
@cakeman8406 Ай бұрын
I want these back 🥺
@TheDragonFire123
@TheDragonFire123 Күн бұрын
Asking for it repeatedly won't do it.
@cakeman8406
@cakeman8406 Күн бұрын
@ I understand. I miss these so much
@kylietalo1407
@kylietalo1407 Ай бұрын
❤🎉😮😅😊🎉😂
@cakeman8406
@cakeman8406 Ай бұрын
I got caught by station staff for playing in the lift 🥺
@TheDragonFire123
@TheDragonFire123 Ай бұрын
Hence why I ride them only for so long.
@cakeman8406
@cakeman8406 Ай бұрын
I don't know why KONE decided to install destination in like a 10 storey building!
@TheDragonFire123
@TheDragonFire123 Ай бұрын
It makes for a good reason to convince the building management to shell out money again.
@cakeman8406
@cakeman8406 Ай бұрын
0:18 this is all new! I definitely have not seen this in my previous visit but next time I might visit
@TheDragonFire123
@TheDragonFire123 Күн бұрын
Yeah, they are new. Not happy about losing the Liftronics for them.
@cakeman8406
@cakeman8406 Ай бұрын
Tbh these are my least favourite trains in QR, I hate the unrefurbished ones because especially in peak hour there are no sideways seatings. So that's why I hate them.
@TheDragonFire123
@TheDragonFire123 Ай бұрын
@cakeman8406 You don't have to keep making everything about yourself mate. Please stop spamming comment sections with your personal opinions as if there more important than the video itself.
@cakeman8406
@cakeman8406 Ай бұрын
@ sure
@RobotsSharkTaleAndNIMH2Fan2005
@RobotsSharkTaleAndNIMH2Fan2005 Ай бұрын
Bus was built in June 2010
@TheDragonFire123
@TheDragonFire123 Күн бұрын
Makes the EcoLife make a bit less sense, too.
@cakeman8406
@cakeman8406 Ай бұрын
I love the motor especially when it stops.
@Bernardgaming2.0
@Bernardgaming2.0 Ай бұрын
Congratulations on 1K
@MarkoCR221L
@MarkoCR221L Ай бұрын
Went to visit this today but the bloody building door was locked...
@TheDragonFire123
@TheDragonFire123 Ай бұрын
Might be still in Christmas mode. Give it a few weeks, I suppose.
@cakeman8406
@cakeman8406 Ай бұрын
I wonder how long these gems have left before they go forever.
@kunsersieben9820
@kunsersieben9820 Ай бұрын
Do you know if all hard drive “ST6000VN006” models from Seagate are as well - “2ZM186”?. I’m looking for a new one of this model but my NAS only accept the type “-2ZM186”, which information appears nowhere unless you buy the hard drive. Thank you in advance
@TheDragonFire123
@TheDragonFire123 Ай бұрын
There are only ST6000VN006-2ZM186s in production, as far as I'm aware. Sometimes, later in a model's production run, the part number may change as a new revision or even platform are introduced, but this drive is too new for that to be likely.
@cakeman8406
@cakeman8406 Ай бұрын
I went the other day and these are the best lifts ever. I like them so much just like I like the DC Rivals HyperCoaster at Movie World. Speaking of roller coasters do you ride them? As I am curious
@TheDragonFire123
@TheDragonFire123 Ай бұрын
I am not currently interested in rollercoasters. That may be because I do not have any passes for any of the theme parks... although that may change if one of them bothers to put an elevator in.
@Samuelselevatorchannel
@Samuelselevatorchannel Ай бұрын
A Very interesting mod! Hey i think it's meant to be 2022 not 2021.
@t3224.elevators_nz
@t3224.elevators_nz Ай бұрын
Ah yes; the theme of OTIS taking the reins on elevators in buildings named after that famous British explorer… At least this one isn’t modernised with LCD yet.
@t3224.elevators_nz
@t3224.elevators_nz Ай бұрын
I’m wondering if the OTIS mod was to replace dead parts (i.e. indicators & lanterns) and they just decided to do all of them up at once and leave the rest…
@LiftsInAustralia
@LiftsInAustralia Ай бұрын
Yep this one is definitely a D8K. Voith B8 examples are quite hard to find and the few that are around all seem to have D8Ks rather than the euro 5 D8C
@Samuelselevatorchannel
@Samuelselevatorchannel Ай бұрын
I bet you stayed there for a few days for e..g?
@TheDragonFire123
@TheDragonFire123 Ай бұрын
A week in total.
@cakeman8406
@cakeman8406 Ай бұрын
That is quite a rare lift. Glad you found it 😂