Really enjoyed this conversation! Thanks Matthew and Michel.

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Keep souring Njambi❤

Go go Gal...interesting

Wow.. this is a very interesting concept

Good content thanks for the podcast!

An interview where Holochain, Regen Network and Grassroots Econ are all in one sitting. I'll have to watch this real soon.

Kiaora Matthew ! And huge big thank for this exhilarating podcast with Nate Hagens and the great simplification combined with Ma Earth . There is a concept that may just push the social tipping point to systemic change. And aid the green energy transition H². #OceansAidGlobal The Revolution we need now more than ever. Overwhelming yet simple. Alexandre tannous music unites humanity. Giving back to Ma Earth. Nature can be our saviour if we change our behaviour.

It’s morally the right thing to do. The carbon market is just never going to become a real market or exchange. No meaningful company or country is going to adopt this.

There are no externalities when we only have one planet.

The stars are lined up!

Love Michel. Our P2P go-to.

excellent summary of ideas of all things peer2peer and cosmo-local

This negative messianism of some "Dark Age" coming is an utter waste of time. Folks like Michel Bauwens basically worship Capitalism and White Imperialism, while preaching all such trash Cosmic Cow Herding Web3

Yee! Happy New Year Ma & Friends. Wonderful discussion. We're developing a cosmolocal project exactly along these lines.. very encouraging.

1:27:04 - No, there were possibly also hunter gatherers, who had hierarchy. Source - l don't remember exactly, but l read it from David Graeber's last book. And why hunter gatherers wouldn't have shamans?

Anyone interested in regenerative finance should look into Dr Delton Chen’s Global Carbon Reward. He’d be a good person to interview.

It's pretty wild that this may be/probably is one of THE most important conversations of our time and yet it only has 14,000 views.

The Planetary Regeneration Alliance link is broken ...

Thank you so much to share all these informations on this very interesting project 🙏

The natural world (biology) uses ATP as the currency based on energy. If you have ATP, you get stuff done.

Nate is great at making things understandable, like his "carbon pulse" concept

first people to be charged with the crime of Ecocide should be Bill Gates, John Kerry, Al Gore and all those private Jet demons that love flying all over the world polluting with their dirty jets telling us all what to do whilst living the most pollution dirty resource wasteful lives themselves. Use public transport like the rest of us if they're so worried about the environment lead by example ya bunch of demons. They don't need all those energy gobbling properties and polluting luxury cars planes & helicopters you reduce first ya bunch of hypocrites. Oh and this lady like Greta Thunberg will be funded by those same demons to spew their rhetoric to the other serfs

Classical economics links the value of something closely to its rarity. What is the value of the only biosphere presently known to exist in those terms? It would seem pretty much near infinite to me...

Excellent interview. Nate knows his stuff. Energy is the tie that bonds us all & Nate does a great job explaining how things really work.

This guy is so full of "it" that he could power his house on the methane coming out of his mouth.

Such a good guest and I'm glad he introduced me to you, Matt! Subscribed!

We won't and shouldn't dial back our energy production and consumption. It's going to go into turbo charge within the next 20 years. Solar tech is only going to get better, along with nuclear, fossil fuels, and hydro and geothermal in some countries. We can easily produce way more energy than we need and it should be very cheap too.

P - P + I is an escalating debt trap, just saying.

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I love Nate. Thank you for interviewing him. He remains curious and embraces uncertainty, virtues that inflict most people with such discomfort they want to instantly jump to "solutions", whether such "solutions" actually solve any "problems" or not. Well, you can't "solve" a superorganism any more than you could "solve" an addicted human. Healing is a complex path, one that demands vigilence for the rest of one's life, that involves enormous discomfort in the process.

Great to see Nate on the other side of the interview -this is the firt time I've seen this. Thoroughly depressing for this interview to be interrupted by so many adverts that are promoting what Nate is concerned about. Fly to Qatar, how to earn a £million without paying tax, how to grow your company, claim money back on the car you financed, learn to trade... EVERYTHING that is being advertised is a claim on Earth's resources for personal financial gain or gratification.

Extreme weather events will increase exponentially, eventually limiting discovery, extraction, delivery of energy until the fossil fuel industry is shut. As the environment leaves the liveable zone for large biological animals with water, food and shelter destroyed by the changing climate, how can humans control the few super rich who hoard resources and use political and military resources for personal protection further reducing the biophysical requirements for life?

It's our time to shine. Thanks Nate for expressing my thoughts and much more. Carpe Diem.

I found this guest's arguments unconvincing.

Adverts telling me to consume more as I'm trying to listen to Nate Haggens......??

Great info to pause and think. How is this kind of knowledge and wisdom likely to inform policies, if not on a global scale, at least on a bioregion level? How do we get there without killing each other competing for resources ? And how much time do we have for this massive switching in our current system? Do we have *some* time... or is all this futile? Nate is talking about a decade. Sigh. Blessings to all.

I've been an IT guy for 35+ years, just turned 60... Gave up my TV almost 20 years ago, I have a desktop PC but honestly I only use it for taxes yearly, I mostly use my tablets to browse the internet, watch YT, etc. 10" screen is fine for me (though I broke one so upgraded to 11" one for $160, I refuse to spend a fortune to "keep up with the Jones's" (no need for status symbols)... 1200sqft house, only put 4k-6k on my car yearly. People find it strange that as a guy who spent his entire career in tech I mostly shun it in my personal life, didn't even get a "smart" phone until 2022. I remember when hurricane Sandy blew through a decade ago now, lost power for 5 days... I was SOOOO looking forward to dragging out my nice 10" telescope without all the city lights (I'm on the outskirts anyways)... And then found my back neighbor running a 8500VA gas generator 24/7 for the whole 5 days with his house lit up like a Xmas tree all night (even worse than any normal night). Meanwhile I cooked on my wood stove, charged up single AA cell driveway lights during the day and spread them around the house at night for the basic navigation, with some rechargable flashlights/headlamps and a couple old oil lanterns... Got along just fine. (A couple soiar panels to recharge the phone/tablets/batteries).

If I could wave a magic wand I would wish all humans realize how so ridiculously together we are to the point where the only acceptable conclusion about who we are is all this age life around the star.

Money denotes the value of your time given over to serve someone else's purpose. It is the unrecognised slaves collar, A chit which validates your safety and security, amongst monsters who would otherwise eat you. It's only purpose is to provide a means by which useless people with no skills can get a cut of the action. That's how businessmen can continue to exist.

As our timeless "Mother of God" (mother and son) iconography suggests, matriarchal and patriarchal spirituality are inseparable and coexist through an understanding of God's eternal cyclical nature. Represented by the serpent in many creation myths, the living cycle has a trinity of a beginning (head), a middle and end (tail). As above so below, the sexes were created in the image of God's cyclical nature where Mother is the head and opening to all beginnings and Father holds the tail to all endings (through which the sowing of seeds allow for the next great matriarchal rebirth).The joining of the two (symbolized by the Ouroborus or the marriage ring) is the sacred union needed in assuring the creation and continuation of new life cycles. To speak of the present day God as "Our Father" is simply an admission to our collective positioning within the bigger cycle. As all mothers have direct experience with the creator quality of birthing, so is the direct experience of rebirthing the divinity within (baptism) belong to that which is spiritually matriarchal. (John 3, verse 3-8). Sekhmet statues (ancient Egyptian) carry most of their weight in symbolic memory of what was a mother culture dedicated to the direct experience of baptism. As the leg shaped hairlocks extend from maternal breasts to the womb of rebirth, the lioness's head proportions are such that they highlight the bust of a second animal figure. The Lioness's ears as eyes and eyes as nose (nostrils) brings to life the figure of a reptile. 'Neath the halo headress of the solar egg, the lioness's egg fertilization process being internal (Set) and the reptile's egg fertilization process being external (Setting), such being key components to the safety of entering the trans-egoic or "born again" state. The life threatening fear associated with the predatory nature of a lion and/or crocodile encounter are reflective of the intense ego death experiences associated with the transpersonal awakening process. In spiritually matriarchal times, illumination could be seen as wearing the false beard (ancient Egyptian funerary "ego" death mask) as the high state of cyclical self knowing; high awareness of both our upper matriarchal half and our lower (later) patriarchal half (compared with a mini lower body replica, an "as above so below" tail end beard extension); in full recognition of her civilizational Underworld; her inevitable cyclical destiny. The male pharaoh wears his beard tapered in reverse, indicating a pointing upwards towards the patriarchal head, divine representative of God's tail end cycle. Mary's anointing and wiping of Jesus's feet with her hair can then be seen as "Head to tail" (toe) imagery as she descends her matriarchal head to his patriarchal feet, thus reenacting the high understanding of the divine cyclical process. (John 12, verse 3) To carry the Ankh (now the female symbol ♀️) was perhaps to symbolically carry that upper and lower understanding. As the upper matriarchal womb symbolised the fertile birthing of civilization, below, the now Christian cross is carried to place emphasis on the lower (later) "End Times" Father principle of the great cycle. Lord Ganesh, the elephant headed Hindu diety, displays a cyclical head to trunk symbolism and points to the Mother head of his matriarchal elephant society. Ganesh (like the elephant) wears God's cyclical nature on his face. A whole temple was dedicated to Hathor (ancient Egyptian diety), who is the matriarchal "Uterus" personified. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGHQYa2AiKp5gZI "See all women as mothers, serve them as your mother. when you see the entire world as the mother, the ego falls away. See everything as Mother and you will know God." - Neem Karoli Baba "My son, keep thy father's commandment and forsake not the law of thy mother" - Proverbs 6 : 20

We have to come to a consensus on how much energy each person can have divided evenly , and the world not wipe us off of it, and anyone above that threshold dials back.

1:08:14 typical boomerism... pick up and move across the country on a one-way ticket is such a fantasy and yet Nate repeats it like its wisdom. you gotta wonder what this guy is doing online when he should be feeding his ducks or whatever . not everyone has a farm Nate

That’s why bitcoin is so important for humanity

Isn’t money an exchange for useful goods or real world work done?

Milquetoast Nate is so soy. Ask him what human carrying capacity is and watch him obfuscate, regardless of how much additional suffering such obfuscation is causing. Rather he's worried about low testosterone and its effects on reproduction? Way to prioritize Nate!. Ask him if we should just stop oil, and here him say, no-no, and then apologizes for fossil fuel companies.

Nate says 10$ oil. but if oil becomes scarce, wouldn't energy as a percentage of our economy get larger? and wouldn't that mean that oil becomes more expensive?

I enjoyed this, Samantha is grappling with many of the issues that we are: how to value the sacredness of tupuna while meeting the needs of investors for metrics which disembody nature and cede data sovereignty; how to avoid the perverse outcomes of overemphasis on threatened species in favour of restoring ecosystems and catchments; how to overcome the perceived void between available capital and available projects. Most importantly, the need to overcome banal issues around accounting principles and disclosure requirements that cannot accommodate nature on the balance sheet, and compulsorily requires biodiversity "investment" to be categorised as donation or expense. A fundamental reason why finance flows are not occurring, even for transitional finance models, is that accountants don't know how to deal with it in the financial statements and/or are constrained to non-financial disclosures. I agree with Samantha, despite the acknowledged need, it's a frustrating time.