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Whaler Restoration Project Ep 1
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@TropicTrdr
@TropicTrdr 21 күн бұрын
It's therapeutic watching this. Is that PVC for the cable and drain?
@TropicTrdr
@TropicTrdr 21 күн бұрын
How deep did you set that saw blade? I had a 1971 Whaler in San Diego when I was in the Navy. Those spider cracks...
@capttomharty
@capttomharty 19 күн бұрын
As deep as it would go!
@ytaamb
@ytaamb Ай бұрын
What brand resin did you use in this video?
@sbuzz5889
@sbuzz5889 Ай бұрын
go board ? it is back by foam?
@thomasbarbjr.5934
@thomasbarbjr.5934 Ай бұрын
Hey Tom. Nice work. I have the same hull in super rough shape. I plan to do the same thing. The goboard is a great idea and I think I will use that as well. What are your thoughts on creating a skeleton frame with go board supports under the deck for foam compartments? I’m thinking of doing that and gluing the deck panels to the framing, then holes to pour foam in each compartment. Maybe that would keep the deck panel from warping.
@capttomharty
@capttomharty Ай бұрын
Yeah, the warping was my fault from too big of a foam pour. If I were to do it again I think I'd probably do a stringer grid out of 3" PolyIso foam (same material as GoBoard but wider). I would pour foam, sand/ level and fill, and then glue deck panels. Voids are inevitable in any top down pour.
@thomasbarbjr.5934
@thomasbarbjr.5934 Ай бұрын
Thanks for the reply. Great idea! Can’t wait for episode 3!
@thomasbarbjr.5934
@thomasbarbjr.5934 Ай бұрын
@@capttomhartydid you use polyester resin or epoxy resin with this build?
@capttomharty
@capttomharty Ай бұрын
@@thomasbarbjr.5934 All poly
@motorcoach123
@motorcoach123 2 ай бұрын
I'm working on a 17 for my boss and can't seem to find the wire from the bow light to the consol , you have any insight on this ?
@capttomharty
@capttomharty 2 ай бұрын
If you look at my first video on this project you can see the original wiring. It comes up through the foam at the bow, but does go bad over time. Its common to run a wire under the rub rail if the factory wire is compromised.
@masondawes1647
@masondawes1647 2 ай бұрын
How much of a budget would you set aside for a job like this including the foam and decking. Also how did you flip her to work on bottom ?
@capttomharty
@capttomharty 2 ай бұрын
Lots of variables of course, but looking to do this for around $2k in materials. As for flipping, without the foam it only took 2 of us to lift.
@masondawes1647
@masondawes1647 2 ай бұрын
@@capttomhartythanks for the information I really appreciate your videos
@darrisb1727
@darrisb1727 2 ай бұрын
I would have done the transom from the inside. No right or wrong here but I would have done from the inside so I could glass the stringers in with the transom as one solid piece.
@capttomharty
@capttomharty 2 ай бұрын
I would agree with you on other boats but not on these Whalers. Much better (not to mention easier) to keep the structure of the splashwell in place and go from the outside.
@darrisb1727
@darrisb1727 2 ай бұрын
@@capttomharty I did not realize they did not have actual stringers in them. I am currently about to start on a 16' 1966 MFG looks similar to the Whaler. I will start removing the cap off today and cutting out the transom. I will document the build on Iboats as I did with my other build on a 1979 Grady WA
@tydengr
@tydengr 3 ай бұрын
Very good jog after 2 days
@tydengr
@tydengr 3 ай бұрын
for sure It will come out a very nice one
@spinfish1434
@spinfish1434 3 ай бұрын
You’re making great Progress! How do you like the GoBoard after working with it? Looks very interesting and a lot less expensive then Coosa Board. Definitely keep up the narration, this series will definitely get more views! Your project looks great, looking forward to the next episode! 👍
@capttomharty
@capttomharty 3 ай бұрын
Yeah it was good to get back to it, definitely had to rush but all good. I think the GoBoard is awesome. Thought long and hard about Plywood vs. Divinycell at $140/ sheet, less so about Coosa at $330/sheet. I had a scrap piece of 1 1/2" Coosa for the transom so it felt wrong to go plywood. I've done a few stringers out of 4" PolyIso roof board so had no worries about using this. The 1/2" wouldn't work for a traditional deck, but with a solid foam filled hull there is plenty of support. The top will get 1708 so it'll have dent resistance too when we throw a mooring on there.
@spinfish1434
@spinfish1434 3 ай бұрын
@@capttomharty Sounds good, what are your future plans for the boat? I watched the whole video in one sitting lol. Love this stuff. Keep the videos and narration coming!
@capttomharty
@capttomharty 3 ай бұрын
@@spinfish1434 This will be a beater on Nantucket for the whole family to use. Fishing, clams, beach, waterskiing, and probably a bit of light duty work.
@matthewsilva285
@matthewsilva285 3 ай бұрын
Hey Tom, thanks for posting! I have a 16 Currituck I'm weighing with a scale followed by a 13'. I'm gonna find out whether or not to refoam or seal it up and run them for the summer lol.
@capttomharty
@capttomharty 3 ай бұрын
For the record refoaming should be the last resort! All Whalers have water in the foam and most do just fine. I’m certainly not going to say this was necessary or everyone should cut open their Whalers.
@matthewsilva285
@matthewsilva285 3 ай бұрын
Absolutely agree with your statement, hence actually weighing them to see just how bad they are. Keep up the good work, we are looking forward to see some more video!
@kevinvey9474
@kevinvey9474 3 ай бұрын
Good morning Tom, good to hear from you. I don't think I would have done anything differently. Foam exspansion is at best a geuss
@capttomharty
@capttomharty 3 ай бұрын
I should have let the deck bond a bit longer and harden up, or even glass it down but jumped the gun. Watching the deck rise in the time lapse was brutal!
@rpeek
@rpeek 4 ай бұрын
She's had a rough life. Glad you'e taking care of her.
@gmaj03
@gmaj03 4 ай бұрын
I've got a 1966 I'm restoring myself. Sanded a lot of the bottom but didn't take it down to the fiberglass everywhere. Heard that wasn't necessary but you're taking a different approach and sounds like you've done this before. Does it need to be down to the fiberglass and are you planning to redo the entire bottom or just spots with new glass?
@capttomharty
@capttomharty 4 ай бұрын
I'm a fan of grinding the crazed gelcoat down especially on the old old ones, but to each their own. I think the cracks will always come back if not taken down to fiberglass. On this one I'll redo the entire bottom the same way - 36grit, 1 layer CSM, fair, epoxy prime.
@spinfish1434
@spinfish1434 4 ай бұрын
Did you end up selling the project?
@capttomharty
@capttomharty 4 ай бұрын
No sir! Just booked a flight back to work on it at the end of the month. Getting the heaters ready!
@spinfish1434
@spinfish1434 4 ай бұрын
@@capttomharty Looking forward to seeing it take shape! 👍
@shawrowe
@shawrowe 7 ай бұрын
Did you ever get that transom completed? I’m getting ready to start mine and need tips!
@capttomharty
@capttomharty 7 ай бұрын
Not yet, unfortunately going to be a while til I can get back around to it.
@Estabonbon
@Estabonbon 11 ай бұрын
I used a machete to get the foam out.. worked great
@sean7193
@sean7193 Жыл бұрын
You are a wild man. Mad props for taking this on. love to see episode 2.
@andreaschmidt3048
@andreaschmidt3048 Жыл бұрын
Part 2?
@65EVMPH
@65EVMPH Жыл бұрын
If you’re watching this don’t do what he does here with the foam buy an multi tool vibrating saw greatest tool ever to saw that stuff out. I felt sorry for him watching all that grunt work…
@capttomharty
@capttomharty Жыл бұрын
Haha, the multitool is literally sitting in the boat... its garbage for foam.
@65EVMPH
@65EVMPH Жыл бұрын
@@capttomharty I took the foam out of a 1961 Larsen in a couple hours sliced it into potato salad and scooped it out. I tried the grunt way you did and I’m too old for that. I got pictures for proof. That was my experience. I found the tool to finally be useful for something besides noise.
@vilmospuskas1892
@vilmospuskas1892 Жыл бұрын
is there any other way to dry the foam? just removing?
@capttomharty
@capttomharty Жыл бұрын
If this hull wasn't so bad a few dozen hole saw holes would be my approach; refoam and then glass over.
@vilmospuskas1892
@vilmospuskas1892 Жыл бұрын
@@capttomharty thanks. I remove the bottom fiberglass, and waiting for 2 weeks for drying
@sean7193
@sean7193 Жыл бұрын
@@capttomharty what do you mean refoam? if you only had hole saw holes to let exiting foam dry then what would you be refoaming? just trying to learn for when I take this project on. thanks.
@capttomharty
@capttomharty 11 ай бұрын
@@sean7193 I'd use a 4" hole saw pulling out "core samples" so to speak. Wet core gets replaced with new foam, dry core allowed to stay- avoids pulling the deck.
@jerimahjohnson8698
@jerimahjohnson8698 Жыл бұрын
I have a 1965 same version
@thomasbarbjr.5934
@thomasbarbjr.5934 Жыл бұрын
Nice work. I’m setting up to do the same. Are you going to add some framing to the hull to support the new deck? Trying to plan my build now.
@capttomharty
@capttomharty Жыл бұрын
I'll be adding 1-2 layers of 1708 on the inside and then pouring new foam up to the deck, should be plenty.
@thomasbarbjr.5934
@thomasbarbjr.5934 Жыл бұрын
@@capttomharty I had the same plan. I was planning on 2lb foam a little higher than deck level, shaping into correct shape of floor and glassing in with 2 layers of 1708 and wrapping it up the gunnels a little. Looking forward to episode 2.
@ijake7262
@ijake7262 Жыл бұрын
Theres a 13ft whaler in similar condition in my area for sale for $300. How much money do you estimate your restoration to end up costing?
@capttomharty
@capttomharty Жыл бұрын
Grab it! You can build one out for less than you can buy one complete. Use polyester resin, sweat equity goes a long way, used motor, eBay for rigging, etc.
@jasonsmith7809
@jasonsmith7809 Жыл бұрын
Does the 4.5 ginder make it harder to fair than using a DA, seems hard to keep grinder flat without making little gouges or ripples? Thanks.
@capttomharty
@capttomharty Жыл бұрын
Yes, definitely aggressive/ makes rough gouges... but is a time saver in the end. On a boat this far gone the alternative with 60/ 80 on a DA would take weeks! Also, I'm going to lay fresh glass on top so smoothness isn't important yet.
@ohiopipper3956
@ohiopipper3956 Жыл бұрын
Getting ready to restore mine also going to be watching
@Orlosthedruid
@Orlosthedruid Жыл бұрын
there are new types of sand blasting units out that can do amazingly accurate blasting, and they work on many different levels of aggresiveness. I wonder what they could do on fiberglass?
@capttomharty
@capttomharty Жыл бұрын
I would love to try that, unfortunately my grinder skills are a blessing and a curse!
@BigC_33
@BigC_33 Жыл бұрын
Great video. I have a '79 Montauk with many of the same issues. Hoping you can find the time for Episode 2!
@capttomharty
@capttomharty Жыл бұрын
Hopefully soon!
@samdavidson1838
@samdavidson1838 Жыл бұрын
How many hours did it take to sand off all that gel coat. Holy moly
@capttomharty
@capttomharty Жыл бұрын
The grinding goes pretty quickly! I use a 4.5" grinder with a 36g disc so much faster and messier than a DA with say 80 grit. Probably 6 hours inside and out, but still have the bottom to do.
@samdavidson1838
@samdavidson1838 Жыл бұрын
@@capttomharty thanks for the reply. Thats actually much quicker than I would have imagined. Now that you have it down to glass are you planning on fairing and paint or you gonna re gel coat? I'm about to get to sanding on a 16 currituck. Purchased a new 70 yamaha and now have rethought putting the motor on my hull the way it is. Definitely makes me wanna go further but I keep reminding myself a line has to be drawn somewhere. Thanks again 🤙
@capttomharty
@capttomharty Жыл бұрын
@@samdavidson1838 She'll get another layer of glass, polyfair, and then primed/ painted with Awlgrip.
@kodiham7532
@kodiham7532 Жыл бұрын
@@capttomharty This is the best video on a practical way to restore these old whalers. Hopefully you'll have time to educate us on completing this project. Question on the bottom when you get to it. I'll assume the same grind the gelcoat off. Will you lay fiberglass mat over (for strength) or just re-gelcoat? I have and old 11 foot whaler same condition. The bottom on mine is thin and too flexible many spider cracks.
@capttomharty
@capttomharty Жыл бұрын
@@kodiham7532 Thanks! Yes, the bottom will be ground down too. It'll be a mess-- undoubtedly burn through in spots and uncover all sorts of cracks, prior patches and wet foam but is a necessary can of worms. Some spots will need to be dug out and re-foamed. After that a fresh layer or 2 of mat is definitely needed to uniformly reseal repairs, reinforce the thin factory skin and start the process of fairing.
@jonm.7982
@jonm.7982 Жыл бұрын
Where's part 2??
@capttomharty
@capttomharty Жыл бұрын
I wish I could say soon, but haven't gotten a chance to get back to it yet!
@vilmospuskas1892
@vilmospuskas1892 Жыл бұрын
@@capttomharty I am waiting part 2 too :)
@kevinvey9474
@kevinvey9474 Жыл бұрын
I've come to your channel late. I'm now subscribed. I have done restoration in the past. I have just purchased a 13' true basket case. What really caught my attention was the removal of the deck,foam and internal plywood. For me making the original 650 lbs. is the goal.
@capttomharty
@capttomharty Жыл бұрын
Yes, this is definitely a deep dive! The internal plywood was completely rotten and if I do end up with a mahogany console the screws would not have held.
@douglasthompson2740
@douglasthompson2740 Жыл бұрын
Funny, I never had a 17 apart. When I went to the local dealer to find out where the hard points were in the deck so I could fasten my heavy custom console he claimed it had plywood backing in several places that he pointed out. When I went to lag it in (later using glass and epoxy) none of the holes in his positions hit any plywood. I see by yours that there is none. I would highly recommend on any boat that you are removing structure from that you build an outside jig at three or four points to hold the hull shape. They can and most probably will sag lengthwise and thwartship. 2x4's on edge with uprights for the sides as stiffeners with plywood cut to the shape of the hull can be done quickly. A couple of 2x6's longitudinals holding the cross jigs in place will take care of it. Great sunny weather calm water boat.
@capttomharty
@capttomharty Жыл бұрын
There are 3 strips of plywood here- one down the center and then each side for the console/ leaning post to mount to. These were completely rotten, which is why I went in from the top. The thin glass layup will be fixed with 1708 and then fresh foam and new divinycell deck.
@douglasthompson2740
@douglasthompson2740 Жыл бұрын
Seemed like those early models with the blue liner were a bit different makeup for the blue liner. Never felt the same as fiberglass from about halfway down the side across the floor. Not sure what they used. Could have been the blue gel coat that was different. They came out in about 1963 when fiberglass technology was relatively new to the boating world. I was running wood skiffs when friends of mine started using the whalers in the mid sixties. The 13 would pound you hard in any kind of a chop while the 17 was better it was still a hard pounder. The exterior and the transom were way too thin and did as you say the spider cracking everywhere.
@douglasthompson2740
@douglasthompson2740 Жыл бұрын
I have had both the 17 just like yours and later on a 13. Had the 17 in the seventies and the thirteen in the late eighties. Biggest problem among many especially if they lived in the water was that the foam became one great sponge. The only way to get it dried was to peel the bottom off and rebuild it up. I had a friend that did that thinking he could save the foam. He turned the 13 footer over in a boat house and three years later he ended up stripping the foam. It soaks up water but it does not release it. Consequently they weigh huge amounts as the boat is soaked. A classic case of advertising making up for quality. Really thin glass dependent on the foam for strength. But they did float. Way to heavy to use as a tender on anything less than a fifty foot boat. A great dive boat especially the 17.
@GROUNDPOUNDERFAB
@GROUNDPOUNDERFAB Жыл бұрын
Now that the easy part is done.. time to get to work! Just kidding! Subscribed and looking forward to continued progress.
@spinfish1434
@spinfish1434 Жыл бұрын
You have a serious project, looks good. Episode 2 coming?
@capttomharty
@capttomharty Жыл бұрын
I’m in California, boat is in Boston. Might be a minute until I can get back to it but lots to do!
@spinfish1434
@spinfish1434 Жыл бұрын
@@capttomharty subscribed
@BahamasCaneCorso
@BahamasCaneCorso Жыл бұрын
What type disc did you use on the grinder
@capttomharty
@capttomharty Жыл бұрын
@@BahamasCaneCorso 24 or 36g resin discs from ebay or amazon. 25 pack is like $30
@BahamasCaneCorso
@BahamasCaneCorso Жыл бұрын
Appreciate the info!
@tepoynter
@tepoynter 2 жыл бұрын
What happened to Part 2 or others ? Did you make it up the East Coast? Great video.. wish I could see the ending
@capttomharty
@capttomharty 2 жыл бұрын
We actually blew a seal on the Zeus pod and had to get hauled out at River Forest for about 10 days while they fixed it. Made it up to NYC eventually but didn't film much!
@tepoynter
@tepoynter 2 жыл бұрын
@@capttomharty Thank you. I wondered if that or something else had happened. Those damn Zeus pods. Great video; I wish I could have seen the rest of the trip. Thanks for the reply
@dariusvilla5680
@dariusvilla5680 2 жыл бұрын
A big offshore ocean fishing yacht crossing a lake where a lot of bass boats and even bay boats fish at. Run into any bass boats during the transition across Lake O?