Very nice. I have never tried the F6 hybrids, sounds like I will have to give them a go for the channel. 👍

I think if you hit it well already then I would keep it the same. The ventus blue shafts are great, my driver is ventus blue. But if you have a club that is working I wouldn’t change it. 👍 Perhaps if you really want to try it, pick up another M2 head and then put a ventus shaft in it and see if it does improve the club for you.

I agree with that.

Very nice. I use mine quite a bit out of the rough myself. It’s useful to come down on the ball quite steep to dig through the rough and pop it out. Don’t think I’ll be trying it a fairway bunker anytime soon though! 😂

Depends on the cost really. If you can pick a ventus tr shaft up for cheap then perhaps, as they are very good. However the stock shaft in the M2 isn’t bad at all, it was just that the regular was not right for me. Perhaps an option would be to sell the M2 and then pick up a sim max hybrid with a ventus shaft if looking to play ventus. As I imagine with the income of the sale, that would be cheaper than replacing the M2 shaft. Personally I would go for that option as the sim max is an amazing hybrid. Let me know what you decide.

Do you have a set of vice irons then?

@Acsgolf sure

No worries. Also you are right about the Ping wedges. On the test it was the 3 Cleveland’s at top, then the Wilson staff and then the ping. Ping is another great wedge option out there. I used to play with a ping glide forged wedge that I loved. Only replaced it as the groves had started to go from being used so much!

Sounds like a plan, as that’s some solid figures. 👍

I have not actually tried the 5 wood as only got my hands on the 3. I can imagine like most fairway woods, you will get the same performance across the line. So will still have decent distance, forgiveness and easy to launcher. Even easier to launch as a 5 wood so you have a nice loft. If you’ve liked the reviews of the 3 wood then you should like the 5 wood. If you go for it let me know how it goes.

Good choice. Let me know how you get on with it. 👍

Glad they work for you so well. I do agree consistency is better than distance. For example I know I can change my driver and get more distance. But there is no point being 10 yards further in a bush rather than being 10 yards back on the middle of the fairway. 😂 What is the top of the bag look like for you then? My main issue with one length irons is the potential gap they can course at the top of the bag.

So I do. I actually have the scale results for 2023 as well. What I will be doing is beginning of 2025, I will do a couple of videos that will go through the winners of each point, so highest rating distance driver, overall best driver etc. 👍 Also I will try and mention a few comparatives in the videos when I’m reviewing something similar to another review I have done before for comparisons as you suggested. So thanks for the idea. 👍 Also cheers for the kind words. Looking forwarded to hitting 4 figures next year, as will keep plugging away until it does. 👍

Sorry to hear that. All the Cleveland stuff I have tested is great. I even have the Hywood 4 in the bag right now. However with all clubs some work and some don’t depending on the person. One thing to look out for though is the shaft in any club. I have the same issue as you that I don’t launch the ball very well. Therefore I tend to go for a shaft with quite a flexible tip as this helps with launch. Also another option to try is if you play with a stiff shaft normally, then try using a regular or softer shaft with a 3 wood. This will help launch but also be aware could increase spin so would need to find a happy medium. But it’s what I do with my 3 wood. Have ventus blue shafts through the top of the bag but with the 3 wood which I can struggle to get in the air I have a regular shaft rather than stiff and it really helps me launch it. 👍 Hope the above helps.

Great, let me know how you get on with it. 👍

You are right it does look bloody awful. 😂 but it gets me on the fairway and was thought of from a few lessons. Basically have zero flexibility from playing rugby over the years so by having that foot back and closed it allows me to get a little more power and brings the hips into it. Plan for 2025 is to hopefully find the time to get some yoga in to improve the flexibility to make the swing more golf like. 😂 until now it’s got me to 8 handicap so even though it looks awful it works! Well most of the time.😂

Why bother posting, the video was about the performance of the drivers not the swing. And to be honest they all seemed to go straight down the middle!! If you've got nothing good to say, then say nowt at all and go and watch the pros swing. :)

​@gregcarnall9097 do you think pro testing or amateur testing is more relevant to most people watching these types of videos?

@@panthersgolfsociety841 Both relevant and informative, as long as the swing repeats its a valid test.

So just measured the head weight of both clubs and interesting I was wrong! So even though I thought the fly was lighter than the darkspeed, it is actually heavier! So the fly weighs 199 grams while the darkspeed only weighs 197. So the fly actually had a heavier swing weight, which actually helped me increase the club head speed. Even though I felt it was lighter. Having that extra 2 grams clearly made the club as a whole more balanced which helped with performance for me. It really does show how performance can change when you are only changing a few grams. Will look into getting a heavier weight for the darkspeed and see how that is affected by it.

@@Acsgolf I'm not an expert on these matters (!!) but with your swing speed averaging out at around 98mph, a driver swing weight of D0 would seem to be a good start point for you. Even the difference between D3 and D0 with your numbers translates into around another 5 yards per drive, and every little counts!

@@Stirly67thanks for the tip. Plan to probably get a new driver(just can’t help myself 😂) next year so will make sure it’s a D0 to give it a go. Because as you say every little helps and I will always take an extra 5 yards.

Haha definitely, personally I quite like it!

Iv had the fly z ( in blue ) for 8 years . Upgraded every other club in my bag but each time I go for a driver fitting the new club can't beat it .

@ very nice. It really is a great driver. 👍

Thanks, glad you are enjoying the channel. Have an ACS golf instagram channel as well, so feel free to give that a follow if you want. 👍

Very nice. With a 75x shaft I can imagine it was a beast. How far did you get it?

@@Acsgolf Around 250 m / 273 yd carry. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eZ2QfIBooa-eick

Very nice, how did you get on with them?

@ honestly, they were far too light. When I was swinging well and had confidence they were great. As soon as I lost my swing a little it was difficult to feel the club and make any corrections.

@ I can imagine that. The moment you start to loose the head it makes it very difficult to strike the ball well especially when not that confident.

Haha yep it’s a rare one!

I remember you saying from a previous post. I havnt found it that heavy personally, however it has a very light tensie blue shaft in it which probably helps! 😂

Glad you enjoyed the video. That’s not a bad cross, yes and Daytona putters! Glad you’re enjoying the putter and the irons as well. Need to try and get my hands on a set of them to test for the channel as heard some really good things about them. 👍

Very nice, I’m the same as you as generally play cobra drivers. Currently got the Darkspeed X in the bag. Have you put the Adams driver in the bag then? If so how’s it going?

@Acsgolf I'm still using the cobra ltdx as I just can't get enough of that driver, but I'm highly considering putting the new adams in the bag, it's that good to me

@ well let me know if you do and how it works out. Regarding the LTDx, love that driver. Replaced it with the stealth 2 last year and immediately regretted it! That’s one of the main reasons I want back to cobra this year. 👍

I have the new blade putter. I'd say it's a cross between the yes and the taylormade rossa daytona 1. Which makes sense being taylormade owns them. I even stuck a rossa grip on it because that was my favorite putter grip ever

You are right, and I have to say there really isn’t anything budget about the Adams range, good numbers and very good finish. Which can be also said for a lot of other cheaper brands out there. They are all getting a lot better. Regarding the putter, video on that out tomorrow. Personally I was very impressed and with the price as well. 👍

@@Acsgolf can't wait for that video, I got the putter and irons and love both. You're right, nothing budget about the current adams quality.

So the swing was made from lessons I have had. Basically done to help me open my hips more to get a bit more power due to being stiff as a plank of wood thanks to years of rugby. It also helps with a nice draw. If I want to fade it then I just bring my back foot forward, however by doing so I do loose some power. Regarding Jim venetos, you are not the first to say if it is his swing. It’s very similar if not the same. 👍

Interesting, thanks for replying 👍

No it's very square. Very comfy feeling. I absolutely love these fairway woods. & The sound is amazing.

Like gt said, this clubs sits square. Wilson actually went to their tour players regarding the looks of the woods and that’s why these woods look very much tour inspired. And tour look generally means neutral to open face as tour players don’t like closed faces either. You shouldn’t have a problem keeping this straight. When I tested it, it reacted like any other normal fairway wood so was not over drawing at all. 👍

@@Acsgolf thanks for that. Think I’ll take the plunge and try one out. As we get into the winter months the ball runs forever on my frosty links course so ideal time to try a 5 wood from the tee!!

@@Stirly67sounds like a plan. Let me know how you get on with it. 👍

So taylormade have changed the name of the clubs over the years. So for the sim2 you had three clubs, the sim2, sim2 max and then the sim2 max d. So the sim2 was the low spin version, so equivalent to the Qi10 Ls. The sim2 max is the middle of the range club, mixture of distance and forgiveness, so equivalent to the qi10. While the sim2 max d is equivalent to the qi10 max, both are the most forgiving driver in the line up. So it is right having the sim2 max vs the Qi10. Wouldn’t be a fair fight if I had put the sim2 max vs the Qi10 max. 👍

You are right. Being owned by taylormade does mean that Adams will most likely never compete against taylormade at the top of the table. However as budget clubs go because of the backing of taylormade these are very good. As I mentioned in the video it performs well at an amazing price and also doesn’t look budget like some of the other competitors out there. Also the putters they have released which I will be doing a review of soon, don’t scream budget at all! To be honest I think I’d prefer them over an actual taylormade one. 👍

If they start coming out with new stuff every year or 2 years and it's quality like the most recent line then I'd say they're back. I hope they do.

Spot on. 👍

Never actually heard of this brand, but due to the comment I’ve picked up the TS4s for the channel. Review coming in the new year I imagine. Thanks for the heads up. 👍

Haha fair enough! Do you play a bettinardi then?

Sorry that the sound quality wasn’t up to scratch! I’ll make sure I talk clearer next time. Thanks for letting me know. 👍

Thanks for subscribing. I hope you enjoy the channel. 👍

Hi, it may have been me that you saw using it on KZbin!! Have been trying with the idea of a longer grip on it, how much difference did that grip change make for you in terms of feel?

That’s great. Yes made some great putters. I am also like you where I generally prefer a heavier putter. If it’s to light I feel like I do not have as much control over it. Also I have actually managed to pick up the new Adams c-groove putter which is basically a yes putter without the name as Adams brought it before Taylormade closed the business down in early 2010s. But they are back now so will be interesting to see if the new putter matches up to the old ones.

You are correct. I unfortunately couldn’t get my hands on the same lofts. However I still believe the settings were close enough to be a fair comparison to show that the sim2 really does hold its own against the Qi10. I’m not the only one to do a video like this that shows that the difference between brand new drivers and the previous generations is barely nothing. This is shown by tour pros using older models from time to time. 👍

It’s a difficult one, as this is the perfect club to help keep the ball below the wind but in winter with that lower ball flight you will loss distance as you won’t get any roll out. But yet if hitting a high 3 wood into the wind then you’ll be loosing distance anyway. What does your bag look like? Could you get a 2 iron and a 3 wood in the bag? Be handy to have a 3 wood when hitting with the wind to maximise distance and then the 2 iron when hitting into the wind. Regarding the swing speed, you’ll have no problem using this club as definitely have the swing speed for it. Just make sure you get the right shaft to maximise performance. 👍

@ thanks for the reply mate. Top of bag set up is driver, 3w, 5w and 4h. Because the 5w is that low spin mkt cannon from Srixon 😂 which creeps up to my 3 wood and the 3 wood is close to my driver. I can hit my 3 wood really well but 5w is much easier off the deck and then I’m really working hard on my driver to the point 3 wood is really in the middle of both which causes indecision on the course. My home course isn’t long though - good par 5 drive is either too close for a fairway into the green or surrounded by hazards. I use my 5iron for the wind cheater off the tee but there’s some holes it doesn’t get far enough with roll (rolls for miles in summer) but 3 wood or driver is too much club and 5 wood gets eaten up in the wind. I can flight the 3 wood down as well though. Maybe I’m just trying to talk myself into getting a new club 😅 But hopefully that helps, sorry for the rambling essay! This spot in the bag is so tough to nail down.

@ haha I do love the srixon woods because as you say they do go miles! Is your 3 wood adjustable? Perhaps if it is make it a 4 wood, little bit easier launching off the deck and then still go a mile. I use a mizuno st-max 3 wood but have it set as a 4 wood loft and works really well. Then you can take the 5 wood out and put the 2 iron in. I definitely think either way keep the 3 wood for winter and swap the 5 wood out for the 2 iron. I tend to change my bag for winter and summer. So used to have a 3 wood for summer and then a 5 wood for winter to get more carry. But now just adjust the mizuno 3 wood. Also you can never have too many clubs! 😂 Let me know what you decide to do.

@@Acsgolf Honestly that Srixon is my favourite club in my bag at the moment - first time I hit it was 20 yards carry longer than my previous 5 wood, can't even imagine how long the 3 wood variant would be. Adjustable 3 wood indeed, I have considered lofting up the only thing is it closes the face too much and I'm plagued by the left miss (over draw). Kind of wish the Srixon was adjustable so I could get to 4 wood with the open face (of course the 2025 one looks to be :D) - that said I’m still convinced that it’s a 4 wood in disguise with the distance height and lower spin Yeah too right! - more clubs can give different options for different courses and there are some days where it's fun to switch it up when it's the same course you play at regularly. Anyway thanks for the advice, will look out & try some driving irons!

That’s Awesome!

That’s a great deal. Let me know how you get on with the club. 👍

@@Acsgolf Great hit 14 fairways, missed one. Just got it regripped today (22nd) to a mid-size. I'm sold that Callaway & Ping make the best clubs. Saw a Epic Max for $150 today....tempting! 😈

@@frankhernandez6883 that’s great! Callaway and ping do make some of the most forgiving drivers. Ooo that is a tempting price.

That’s great! It does make getting out those bunkers easy. 👍

Those are the figures I get down the range. I also make sure I try and use the same range each time so that the club testing is the same throughout. Also a 150mph ball speed is normally around 100mph swing speed. I average 98 normally so not far off but can get over 100 from time to time. Even registered 107mph this year. So it’s those swings which help bump up the average and helps me get that 150 ball speed on average normally.

That’s good and lots of options to adjust the clubs to how you want them to perform. They do make good some really good clubs at the moment Wilson and I am very much looking forward to the new line up coming out next year. Also managed to get my hands on the carbon driver so review of that is coming out soon. Small snippet for you, I loved it. Great driver with some good distance for me. 👍 Regarding the carbon you have. Have you tried lofting the club up? The reason is by doing that it actually closes the face and will becoming more draw bias so should hopefully straighten the ball flight out a bit. While the titanium is already a bit closed so will help you keep it straight off the bat.

@@Acsgolf Yes I have adjusted it. I do well with it just felt the titanium in couldn't miss a shot. Have to tried the Dynapapower fairway woods? I have the 3&7 woodand they are brilliant. I'm definitely enjoying these new Wilsons

@@gtpwilly3503 I have a 3 wood to test for the channel actually. So looking forward to doing that over the coming weeks.

@@Acsgolf Nice can't wait to watch. You're gonna love them absolute missiles.

Thanks mate, will do as enjoy doing it so no plans to stop. 👍

The P790 are great irons, probably the best hollow body irons out there. I actually reviewed the P770s from 2021 this year and they nearly went in the bag as looked great, felt great and performed great. Just wasn’t too keen on the shafts so didn’t. Regarding the back of the JPX line up, I agree. They definitely could do better. For example the mizuno pro line up is gorgeous so perhaps they could have sorted out the plastic logo bit as you mentioned.

You are correct. So it was actually created during lessons. Basically I have really bad mobility, too much rugby when younger. So by having that closed position it forces me at the end to rotate my hips more so I get more power. Also means I get a nice draw relatively easily. Also if I ever want to fade the ball, rather than changing the back swing which is an option, I just bring the back foot forward and have a neutral stance. By doing so I get a nice fade, but not as much power due to a smaller natural rotation of the hips. 👍 I will add if you ever have a bad slice, give this stance a go as it helps to change your attack angle to get the ball straighter and even get the draw going.

Interesting. You appear to strike the ball pretty consistently, with good distance. Ideally I need to get a bit more hip action. I’m about one club shorter than you, and I’m also a 16-handicapper, although my iron play is relatively strong. Over the summer I was fitted for JPX 923 Forged, and I’m still getting used to them (previously I had old Mizuno MX-20s, which were more forgiving).

@@markmark5488 that’s good then. I think if you have a good foundation around your irons, the rest of the game will come. How do you find the JPX923 forged then? Personally I think if I take the pros out that’s the clubs I’d replace them with or a ZX mkII combo of 5 and 7s. Actually have some jpx 923 irons already to test for the channel before potentially taking the plunge and getting a full set for myself.

Very nice. The tours are lovely clubs as well. 👍

The XL2 is great and nice to see it up with the big guys. Saying about the price tag, cobra is even cheaper than other brands like titleist. Which shows what a deal the cleveland really is!