Excellent video and very detailed. I’m told the new versions can connect directly to a laptop.
@yoliara6613 Жыл бұрын
Hola como estás necesito saber como desarrollar mi curva de tu este pero a mi gusto no las preestablecidas gracias.
@erharddinges8855 Жыл бұрын
You use Artisan, are your probes reacting like in a drum roaster? So you canm use the profiles 1:1 for drum roasting?
@beanobsessedroasters9073 Жыл бұрын
Not sure, I understand the question, are you asking if I can transfer the roast profile to a drum roaster? If so then no, a drum roaster behaves quite differently than a fluid bed roaster, but it will help on how I’d like to develop a roast on my drum roaster.
@erharddinges8855 Жыл бұрын
So it does not make sense to buy a fluid bed roaster for improving drum roasts. I will start with a low dose in my 1kg drum roaster and try to transform the data to a full load roast. I thought, there is a formula to translate a fluid curve into a drum profile. Useless hopes. So it could be only good for sensoric comparison. Thank you.
@beanobsessedroasters9073 Жыл бұрын
It makes sense to buy a small roaster like this if you need/want to sample coffees as these are usually only sent in 50/100g bags. Also if you want to see how coffees taste with longer or shorter development profiles and of course if you only have modest requirements re output quantities and or limited space
@jpbarista3253 Жыл бұрын
This is awesome!
@devin.thunhorst Жыл бұрын
Do you like the golden roaster?
@beanobsessedroasters9073 Жыл бұрын
Love it!
@i_Lndr Жыл бұрын
Ive been looking for a roast vision for a long time. They stopped making them.
@zm23f Жыл бұрын
Yet another useless piece of 💩😅
@dylankennedy8140 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. 4 years on - has your technique changed for this type of bean? Or has it been one you have stuck with? Thank you
@beanobsessedroasters9073 Жыл бұрын
Hi Dylan, don’t roast on the Cormorant any more - have moved onto a 1.5kg Golden GR1+ The graph I posted had smoothing set too high. I have since changed my bean probes to RTD type as they are more accurate and less noisy. For a high grown African I would still chose a quick ish roast - but with a longer time to FC. I drop most of my coffee between 1.50mins to 2.20 mins past FC and I’d definitely be trying to avoid that flick at the end.
@dylankennedy8140 Жыл бұрын
@@beanobsessedroasters9073 Thanks for swift reply. I saw that after, that you'd changed to a different roaster. Found your videos really helpful. Such a bloat of theory out there but these have been really practical and helpful. Interesting to close off the diffuser at FC - I will try this next roast. I'm trying to avoid soft crashes after FC.
@davidroberts5600 Жыл бұрын
I got about 20 roasts out of my first Nano 7 (US Version) and then the thermostat broke. They quickly sent me a replacement and it broke on the first roast. I'm hoping third times a charm. The 220 versions have been out for awhile but it may be too soon to know if the 120v version is reliable.
@kaweesikizito91892 жыл бұрын
How,do you carriburate it.what is the cost
@marcin.sobocinski2 жыл бұрын
Hi, just out of curiosity: how do you make a connection from Kaffelogic to your PC directly? I was thinking about something similar e.g. using a PC as kind of USB drive emulator and try to read in real time log files, but I can see you have it sorted already :D
@beanobsessedroasters90732 жыл бұрын
You can’t make a connection directly at the moment. I have added some additional probes which I have running through the Mastech and then into the laptop - one could also use a phidgets. There are plans to introduce a Bluetooth module for the internal bare wire thermocouple which controls the PID, to provide live data in Kaffelogic Studio in the future. However I don’t think this will happen until after the rollout of the new chaff collector.
@mindaugas8592 жыл бұрын
Hi, was this how it was looking stock, or it become like this after roasting ?
@user-gk1nt6sm2z2 жыл бұрын
Well how did it taste? Any better?
@weixinyuan37272 жыл бұрын
I am curious if you have an update on the experience after 1 year of use.
@willemsteven2 жыл бұрын
What's the default profile?
@danirinaldi10442 жыл бұрын
What did you find using external probe? Is it consistent with the onboard probe?
@beanobsessedroasters90732 жыл бұрын
The Onboard’s primary function is to control the PID and has been designed to be highly responsive. The external probe is less responsive but gives an easier curve to read an provides a real time roasting curve. Kaffelogic will bring out a Bluetooth module at some point which should give a real-time curve.
@danirinaldi10442 жыл бұрын
@@beanobsessedroasters9073 by looking at the placement of the external probe, maybe it should read the ET, and the onboard reading BT. That's my guess, im having a modded popcorn popper that have similar setup using 2 probes, BT & ET.
@LoayOmari2 жыл бұрын
Does it make lots of smoke that you have roast outdoors ?
@fredphoesh2 жыл бұрын
Nice, but a real pity you can't view/control the roaster from your laptop while you are roasting... cannot see the graph monitoring the roast...
@andreasguntensperger29312 жыл бұрын
Hi, on what size of baskets are you using the twister? Do you know, if the propeller blade can be set deep enough to work properly in a 20g VST that is 26mm in hight or even in a 22g VST that is 28mm in hight? Many thanks in advance for your feedback and with well caffeinated regards, Andreas
@jameson1895 Жыл бұрын
Only just seen your query - I use on 18g VST basket, but it looks like at least 26mm height would be achievable. As you twist the coffee will keep being compressed, so even with deeper baskets most of the depth will have distribution, though at say, 30mm height the bottom few mm might only be compressed and not distributed by the propeller - hope that helps
@wesleybaquero64142 жыл бұрын
any updates for 2022? still like the Espresso Vision tool? thoughts? thinking of buying it but I do not see many actually reviews online. thanks!
@gardenguns2 жыл бұрын
Hi mate. I been watching your Cormorant Coffee roaster video’s. I note you have changed now. I currently roast on a Gene cafe and am looking to upgrade and have been looking at the Cormorant and running it with artisan to learn more about roasting and improve the consistency of my roasts. With hindsight what is your opinion of the CR600 as a learning / development roaster?
@christopherschmitz18042 жыл бұрын
I own a Roast Vision. Great little tool, consistent measuring. Most affordable electronic tool. Still not cheap, but also very helpful for calibrating your roasts.
@krimke8813 жыл бұрын
Wow. you could almost get a professional roaster with that price tag.
@EdySmi3 жыл бұрын
How does it determine when the roast is done? Does the profile have a particular development % it needs to hit? Can different profiles have different parameters that need to be hit for it to stop? Seems like a really cool machine!
@fulltang12 жыл бұрын
It determines a roast is done by a set bean temperature, either preset in the profile or user adjusted in the profile software. The roast level setting adjusts this end temperature. You can manually set what end temps correspond with the roast levels.
@MarcinFutrzakLeo3 жыл бұрын
where I can buy this?
@beanobsessedroasters90733 жыл бұрын
Where about's are you Marcin?
@MarcinFutrzakLeo3 жыл бұрын
@@beanobsessedroasters9073 in Poland
@BarryBasmati3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Philip, this is the first very detailed video about the Kaffelogic I found. We are 6 months later, do you still enjoy this roaster or are you considering a drum roaster ?
@EdySmi3 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I want to know. Have you made a purchase?
@shanewilson21523 жыл бұрын
Great video, learned a lot from it.
@medextr3 жыл бұрын
how much many roasting machine?
@AvocatDude3 жыл бұрын
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@AvocatDude3 жыл бұрын
Is this lower area of the roaster all that needs to be cleaned? What about the drum area does that need to be disassembled and cleaned as part of the regular maintenance every four or five roasts?
@beanobsessedroasters90733 жыл бұрын
The lower area needs to be cleaned probably every 20 roasts or so, depends on your roasting style. Never clean the drum. However for a deep clean further disassembly is required, all very straight forward though, unless you are completely ham fisted.
@LillyAugusta3 жыл бұрын
Is it producing smoke, when roasting darker? Cheers!
@beanobsessedroasters90733 жыл бұрын
Like any “cooking” the darker you go the more smoke you get. I’m in the light to medium camp - so don’t really see much smoke - especially as they’re 100g batches. However I’d always advocate ventilation of some sort. I use mine under the cooker hood works fine.
@azak68343 жыл бұрын
This roaster is well over priced ?
@Dan-e8l7t3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video Philip. Very informative!
@sidbokhani34273 жыл бұрын
Very less usefull it looks to Me.
@beanobsessedroasters90733 жыл бұрын
How so?
@sidbokhani34273 жыл бұрын
@@beanobsessedroasters9073 cz in 1st batch you shown coffee beans are not roasted completly .
@beanobsessedroasters90733 жыл бұрын
@@sidbokhani3427 - how would you know?
@beanobsessedroasters90733 жыл бұрын
With the greatest respect Sid - this is a light filter roast of a natural process - Ugandan. I don’t expect the colour to be uniform with this bean. People who judge roasts by sight, have no clue. This roast had nearly 2 minutes post 1st crack development, with an end temp of 215c and an overall roast time of 9.30 minutes - plenty. Had I roasted this for Espresso/Mokka Pot - I would have developed it further.
@sidbokhani34273 жыл бұрын
@@beanobsessedroasters9073 from the View of Beans , 1st batch you shown.
@jameson18953 жыл бұрын
I’ve been using this for a year or so now, very effective, solved my channelling probs - fully recommend
@itamarkas3 жыл бұрын
Hi, How is the roaster work with 500-600g? Thanks
@beanobsessedroasters90733 жыл бұрын
With the placement of my probes loads of 500g are no problem
@itamarkas3 жыл бұрын
@@beanobsessedroasters9073 it’s the original placement?
@beanobsessedroasters90733 жыл бұрын
@@itamarkas no I have drilled and tapped a hole in the bean door
@itamarkas3 жыл бұрын
@@beanobsessedroasters9073 Thanks, I have an option to purchase the 500g model. Do you think the 500g model would be better from the Cormorant? Or The Aillio? Are you happy with the Golden Coffee Roaster? Thanks!!
@itamarkas3 жыл бұрын
Hi, Did the roaster come with phidgets and artisan ready or you mod it? I think to purchase a used roaster like this.
@beanobsessedroasters90733 жыл бұрын
You can connect the roaster using a special lead and the existing thermocouples - but I have chosen to install my own more accurate RTD and K -types and use Phidgets.
@itamarkas3 жыл бұрын
@@beanobsessedroasters9073 Thanks. How does the control on the fan works? Does it have a electrical control on speed? Thanks
@beanobsessedroasters90733 жыл бұрын
@@itamarkas It depends on which model you buy, I you watch my video closely you will see that is uses a damper system. You should probably contact your local distributor or speak to manufacturer - as they can be configured to work either way.
@beanobsessedroasters90733 жыл бұрын
It’s currently on Kickstarter as they are relaunching with a new chaff collector- go check it out!
@Dan-e8l7t3 жыл бұрын
Will you post an update on the roaster? How it goes at different roast levels, new pros and cons etc? :-)
@challoy061419883 жыл бұрын
how much is the price and where to order?
@christopherschmitz18043 жыл бұрын
Looking great Phil! Fighting last stage crashes is always a question mark for me. What is the Roast Vision score?
@beanobsessedroasters90733 жыл бұрын
This measured a 23 on the Roast Vision
@christopherschmitz18043 жыл бұрын
@@beanobsessedroasters9073 My last roast was an Yrgacheffe Rocko Mountain Natural - also a 23 :-)
@beanobsessedroasters90733 жыл бұрын
If you look at my other videos you’ll see it’s become my de facto solution!
@hcr32slider3 жыл бұрын
Hi, are you enjoying this distributor or is it on the shelf now? And have you used something like an OCD before? Cheers.
@e52112 жыл бұрын
the ocd is good but it only flattens the top layer. the lower layers are not evenly distributed. so the even distribution is quiet superficial.
@hcr32slider2 жыл бұрын
@@e5211 it's been a year since posting and after all the fancy tools I'm back to a chopstick with a few acupuncture needles taped to the end and a 58.5mm piston tamp. I can consistently make great espresso this way.
@e52112 жыл бұрын
@@hcr32slider yeah, same. Except with a toothpick hehe
@hcr32slider2 жыл бұрын
@@e5211 about 2 weeks ago I went from sewing needles to acupuncture one's. Wish I did it earlier as there was a huge difference. They actually settle and fluff the puck much more efficiently. Worth the $5 off ebay.
@e52112 жыл бұрын
@@hcr32slider might give that a go. Thanks for the tip
@jakke19753 жыл бұрын
In each video you use a different charge temperature. Does that depend on the kind of bean you're roasting, environment temp or are you just experimenting?
@beanobsessedroasters90733 жыл бұрын
Charge temp - will vary according to charge weight, bean density/size, altitude it was grown at, moisture content, ambient temperature and also the desired length of roast.
@willmaster98224 жыл бұрын
Phil - I think I am now the owner of this machine after missing out on it the first time :). How did the upgraded burner change your roasting technique? I find that I need to start reducing the gas quite early and much further than in your video, otherwise the roast is too fast - it'd be good to know what changes you made in your approach. I've only done 4 roasts on it so far after upgrading from a Gene, so this is all new to me. Amazing machine and very helpful videos, thanks!
@beanobsessedroasters90734 жыл бұрын
Hi Will - perhaps best if you join the Cormorant Facebook group - it's a great community there. Thanks Philip
@michaelelder98214 жыл бұрын
excellent! thank you. dumb question: is the mastech dvm taking the place of a Phidget?
@beanobsessedroasters90734 жыл бұрын
Yes but I no longer use it - use VINT HUB and TMP 1101_01
@michaelelder98214 жыл бұрын
@@beanobsessedroasters9073 thank you. i currently have an air roaster and ready to upgrade. was considering a small step, like the behmor or the gene.....maybe the hottop. but the cormorant seems to check all the boxes and overcome shortcomings of the 'cheaper' ones (albeit 2x the price of the hottop). is there a blog site where i can post some newbie questions about this roaster? nothing beats real world experience.
@beanobsessedroasters90734 жыл бұрын
@@michaelelder9821 Plenty of users over on Home Barista in the roaster forum or if you put yourself on the waiting list which doesn't cost anything, but is fairly long - you can join the Facebook page.
@michaelelder98214 жыл бұрын
@@beanobsessedroasters9073 thanks. i just joined HB. i was trying to dance around the event horizon, but appears i'm on a slippery slope :)
@michaelelder98214 жыл бұрын
great video! i was researching my next roaster and ran across this one. it's 2x my stretch budget, but man it looks amazing and checks all the boxes. it appears the cleaning is pretty straight forward, tho you'd think they'd make it a little easier to disassemble (like 'quick disconnects-type fasteners' instead of all the screws...but then, i gather the full breakdown isn't required that often). again, thanks for this!
@abiyyahbaqbuqyahyaradan31114 жыл бұрын
Nice vid! Do you recommend this machine?
@beanobsessedroasters90734 жыл бұрын
Yes - for the price - though can’t guarantee calibration. Did pick up on a batch of Indonesian green I had that was roasting oddly - which turned out to have a moisture content of 13.5%!
@abiyyahbaqbuqyahyaradan31114 жыл бұрын
@@beanobsessedroasters9073 I’m looking to purchase it just wanted to make sure it hand some accuracy on green coffee beans. Thanks for this info Philip🤝
@lds63004 жыл бұрын
👍 thanks for allowing me to have a look to the inside of this machine.
@thanhnguyen60914 жыл бұрын
Is it used in lab or industry? Thx
@jakke19754 жыл бұрын
You'll probably have more hits if you change your title to Cormorant CR600. It's Coffee Roaster, not Coffee Boaster ;)
@beanobsessedroasters90734 жыл бұрын
jakke fair point and amended - though I’m not really posting these for hits. Seriously though have pretty much stopped posting videos - takes ages to do them right and there’s always someone who finds fault in them - usually those that don’t put up any content themselves..
@jakke19754 жыл бұрын
@@beanobsessedroasters9073 I didn't mean to be negative in any way. I fell in love with this machine (ordered one already) and this vid didn't turn up in my search results before. I just stumbled upon it through youtube recommendations. The only reason I mentioned it is that interested people get to see a bit more content about this roaster. I do appreciate you posting this video and think it's a pity you won't be making more videos. This equipment doesn't get enough coverage on youtube IMO.
@beanobsessedroasters90734 жыл бұрын
jakke - I wasn’t talking about you, it’s just a trend on KZbin these days, I mean this video has a thumbs down ffs
@jakke19754 жыл бұрын
@@beanobsessedroasters9073 I gave it a thumbs up though... I always wonder myself why people do that, they have the choice to view what is of interest to them. Don't like something, skip and stop wasting your time but some people have all the time to waste. Don't let those idiots spoil your fun, there are plenty other people who do appreciate what you do 😉