Hey davlav, thanks for your videos. They definitely help us newcomers to figure out this QC. I think maybe there's a bug in 3.0.0 if you feed a transparent blend from a freeze, you get garbled sound :( have you noticed that?
@davlavmusic707010 сағат бұрын
Haven't tried that. I'll check it out.
@hilmarholland9165Күн бұрын
I've changed both humbucker to Gibson 490. It's a hugh different and more bluesy tone.
@tommoyer4697Күн бұрын
Very nice playing
@zackeriah87Күн бұрын
My man… I downloaded your preset and used it last night at Fiddlers Green Amphitheater in CO. and MAN… Killer! Using it again tonight at Ford Amphitheater. Thanks so much for these! I vote make more Plini X presets! Best, -Z
@davlavmusic7070Күн бұрын
Wow. Thanks, glad to hear that it's working so well for you. It's been my main preset for a while now too
@brucerawsthorne13382 күн бұрын
Had it a while but don’t have or use a computer , help
@davlavmusic70702 күн бұрын
If you check out some of my older videos linked in the description, I just use the device screen. The app and the device interfaces are very similar.
@bobbydreg55972 күн бұрын
I believe the doubler is nothing more than the Haas effect.
@BAND-MAID-USA3 күн бұрын
Swear this guy keeps sayin swamp ass.
@grenbrg3 күн бұрын
Quick question for anyone who has one, does the knob create a scratchy sound or any sound when turning it rapidly between settings on any of the 3 modes? I bought one a while back and it seemed a bit defective - was making unwanted noises as I switched between settings. - perhaps that one was a dud.
@davlavmusic70703 күн бұрын
I have not had that issue. Anyone else?
@officialWWM5 күн бұрын
They are cool but waaaaay overpriced!
@jeannenooney5 күн бұрын
Nicely done! #WeMakePRS
@jjsguitar6 күн бұрын
Great tutorial - good mix of low/high level detail, was really useful. Thank you!
@jjsguitar7 күн бұрын
After watching the youtube video of Mateus reviewing his own plugin and dialing in his tone, I grabbed the Asato - I have been using that and love it, killer tone for days.
@jackrorystaunton45577 күн бұрын
Am I crazy? At 9:37 when you switched to A Major Pentatonic it sounded like the harmonized notes were wrong.
@jackrorystaunton45577 күн бұрын
Actually it sounds like the louder, higher-pitched voice (your guitar signal?) is some possibly our of tune or you're bending the notes?
@jackrorystaunton45577 күн бұрын
Hell now I just don't know
@lostinpa-dadenduro75558 күн бұрын
I think it sounds cool.
@davesmusicgearbox8928 күн бұрын
Great comparison! For me the plugin has been a game changer. Maybe it's just me, my ears and feel under my fingers but the Archetype: Plini X is the first time I thought ok, maybe I can go direct to board with no amp on stage. I am hoping they'll move priority of the Tone King plugin up a little bit. I can see where they are shooting for their main buyers which are heavier metal folks, but I think there's more than enough classic rock guys out there that would eat up some Tone King in a heartbeat.
@gstvermilion9 күн бұрын
doesn't sound quite like a JPIIC, sounds good but it lacks something idk, I prefer the jp models in the fractal or amps 3-4 in the petrucci plugin
@1kidc9 күн бұрын
Agree that I like the plugin better. Can’t wait for the x version as I already own the plug-in. Nice comparison in any case!
@rock4ever8129 күн бұрын
I own plini, gojira, petrucci, and Wong (got them all before compatibility was announced, so I got lucky!). Just got a QC last month and now my personal priority would be buying ones that I can use on qc. I want the mateus asato. But it's not on the coming soon list, so I'm probably gonna be waiting a year or more to be able to use it on the qc. For me personally that's not worth it. I'm gonna wait until they announce an x that I really want and save it for that
@dwaynedelario9 күн бұрын
Excellent video as usual! I guess I am the outlier here and like the captures. They sound similar to how an Imperial sounds in the room. That said, the captures do seem to have a low-end boom at 100-120Hz. In contrast, this sometimes makes the plugin seem anemic when put up against the amalgam. I don't know about you David, but I have been having to HPF a number of my amalgam IRs at 80-100 to make them sound correct. Is something weird going on with the IR loader on the QC? Would be curious if you did a quick A/B of the plugin vs captures with the same built in cab, *if the plugin and the QC share one that is!
@davlavmusic70709 күн бұрын
I did this a while back: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bGa9Yoh_bsujgbc in general I prefer the DI captures. The captures with cabs from Amalgam get boomy on the low end like you said.
@dwaynedelario9 күн бұрын
@@davlavmusic7070 Yes for sure, but even with the separate Amalgam IRs I get quite a big bass response sometimes. I'm gonna do a little test and run a DI capture through both the IR Loader and an external IR software and see if they sound different.
@dwaynedelario9 күн бұрын
@@davlavmusic7070 David were you running two IRs in the loader in the same configuration as the plugin? (TK 1x12 Cream + FNDR 2x12 G12)
@davlavmusic70709 күн бұрын
Yep
@dwaynedelario9 күн бұрын
@@davlavmusic7070 Well this is weird... within the QC itself, if I load an Amalgam IR into the Mono Lite IR Loader, and zero the gain (for some reason it defaults to +3dB), it is 6dB louder than if I load the same IR into the Cab Block at unity gain. This could absolutely be influencing the gain staging in the QC preset vs the plugin, but who knows. I am going to bring this up on the NSDP forum and see what people have to say about the volume differences.
@gitaarschat110 күн бұрын
Hi Davlav, Can you help me out please. I watched the clip about the effectloop with Tonex> I think i did the same , but when i switch from an amp in the QC with reverb and delay. And switch to the effecloop i here the dry signal from the tonex mixed with the delay and reverb. i dont want to here a dry signal . i something wrong. Gr ,Harry
@davlavmusic707010 күн бұрын
Hmm, hard to say without seeing your preset. Make sure that your scene is not turning off the effects and that they are after the fx loop in the overall flow.
@gitaarschat110 күн бұрын
Thank you so much Gr,Harry
@Doublehelix321610 күн бұрын
To my ears, other than the clean patch, I prefer the plugin as well. The clean patches sound pretty similar. The Edge sounds on the plugin sounds so much richer, including the delay sound. I'm not sure if you changed the effects at all between the different patches, but it's much creamier and fuller on the plug-in to me. The lead sound also sounds better on the plug-in for the most part, but the low notes are a bit flubby. Not as bad as one of the plugins you tested the other day that had a horrible flubby low end sound, but enough that it was not quite as appealing. The higher tones sounded pretty good however. Thanks for doing this comparison. I think you also said you had some 5150 captures. It might be interesting to see what you can do comparing plugin versions to the captures on that amp as well. I know you're not a high gain guy, but I would love to hear what you come up with.
@StupidGuitar10 күн бұрын
Id always prefer the model (eg the plugin) over a capture. That said I don’t see the value for dollar on the Tone King plugin vs some of the other more feature rich plugins… heck even Morello has more features and a unique wah
@davlavmusic707010 күн бұрын
I get that. I do love the way the Tone King plugin sounds, though. For me the deciding factor is that amp tones rather than the bells and whistles. But I agree that I would not likely spend $99 on this plugin.
@lanceholland10 күн бұрын
I stumbled on this video....I'm a Fractal user that is QC curious (and use Tonex w/Amalgam captures on my backup rig). Another factor to me would be cost. The Neural plugins seem to be $100+ whereas the Amalgam captures run between $15 and $35. I can see the utility of having the plugin directly on the unit as a plus. There seems to be enough variety on the Amalgam packs to get you the tones you'd want. I can see Neural using unique effects in a plugin (e.g. Plini X) as a way of enticing people to buying them.
@StupidGuitar10 күн бұрын
Fwiw hardly anyone pays full price for neural plugins. They run half off sales twice a year
@lanceholland10 күн бұрын
@@StupidGuitar good to know. A QC may be in my future....we'll see.
@StupidGuitar10 күн бұрын
@@lanceholland I love mine and found it well worth the cost. I was using plugins and a Headrush MX 5 prior along with an Orange Crush. QC has transformed my workflow and offered a whole new world of sound. Also I’d recommend trialing the Neural plugins. It’s free to trial with no credit card needed. That said maybe don’t else you might get hooked lol
@lanceholland10 күн бұрын
@@StupidGuitar It's just really hard to justify ANOTHER $1600 box.
@rinkydinky-ob9pe10 күн бұрын
I use the plugin on a di channel and the capture on a wet one , just for a bit of depth, they are doing a good job in an evolving environment
@masterofreality23010 күн бұрын
Thats weird, I usually like captures, but I thought the plugin sounded better here. Maybe try captures of the plugin? You could get them all during the trials lol
@davlavmusic707010 күн бұрын
On everything but the lead tone I agree - I preferred the plugin. I'd have to fisgure out how to do the capture of the plugin. Right now I use the QC as my interface so I'd likely need a separate one...
@purpandicular10 күн бұрын
Good video! To my ears QC sounds a little more like the "real thing".
@StupidGuitar10 күн бұрын
It’s important to distinguish native QC tones vs captures. He didn’t use a native QC model in the entire video: Captures are always going to be inferior to models.
@davlavmusic707010 күн бұрын
I get that models are way more flexible, but do you think that captures are also inferior in how they sound/feel? Sometimes I think that a good capture can beat the models.
@StupidGuitar10 күн бұрын
@@davlavmusic7070 if they’re user captures l, almost certainly they’re worse than what Neural or any company are going to do. Captures are always inherently static and are often done by users with inferior equipment to what Neural (or any company doing their own captures) is going to have. There are exceptions of course
@Utubewrk1234 күн бұрын
I had the real tone king and prefer the plug ins in this video. Returned the tone king for a Bogner goldfinger. For the price I couldn’t see myself using the tone king much.
@podxtv11 күн бұрын
Having tried a few now, I am leaning towards Mateus Asato as I like the basic core tones, and the stomps and effects a little bit different .. will it ever make it to QC in my lifetime ...who knows.
@borntoworship77711 күн бұрын
Most usable for me is the Plini X
@seanpurdy245011 күн бұрын
The mod rate and mod depth being on two different pages is annoying me :)
@DimitrisMitrolios11 күн бұрын
Gojiras's 3rd cab is a godsent! I chose Gojira and I am in tone heaven. Swap the Plini's boxy cabs with Gojira's 2nd and 3rd caband you're there =)
@allanvr8311 күн бұрын
Nothing To Do with Compatibility, But I think I’ll take Archetype Asato and try to Capture some of the Sounds that I like on the Quad Cortex
@debjeetbasu711611 күн бұрын
is this uploaded on the cloud? sounds fantastic and would love to try it
@davlavmusic707011 күн бұрын
Yes, it's up on the cloud.
@fernandoandradevfx11 күн бұрын
With the mini voice you managed to reach Malmsteen's timbre, I am a Viking song I can't reach.
@graves760112 күн бұрын
Gibson studio and this one. Prs wins
@raynunez602712 күн бұрын
So dual delay can be accomplished with this set up for anyone interested. I put both amps on the first row cab, chorus, dual delay, concert reverb on the second. I was also able to put the same compressor, gate, and a tube screamer. I think the ampero is just a little quirky when it comes to the signal chain flow.
@spiderliam12 күн бұрын
Did you put the pitch shifter after the cab block?? 7:48
@davlavmusic707012 күн бұрын
Yes. I did more testing with the transpose and pitch shift in this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hIeqY6OQl9B1nNE
@Beadlock_12 күн бұрын
Omega granophyre would be one I want but also have good enough captures there. What question I’m really debating is would future unreleased plugins just be X versions or would they be QC compatible day 1? Realistically I may just grab Gojira for free, then wait for Black Friday to get Nolly at a heavy discount
@davlavmusic707012 күн бұрын
My hope would be that new plugins would come out of the box X versions. QC compatibility might not be immediate.
@dwaynedelario12 күн бұрын
Hey David... I am still somewhat new to this whole QC thing, but I am an experienced engineer and I agree on your assessments re: DI and IR. Btw, do you have any of the "Cab In The Room" IRs from Amalgam? Something seems off with those. Feels way too short to be a room sound. And it's super low level! Just reading that the QC truncates IRs to 21ms. That is a bummer.
@kenjiwhe12 күн бұрын
No need for PC plugins for me and certainly not the over the top eye candy, way too much Apple sauce. I got the free Gojira and besides the initial excitement I don't actually need it, there's plenty of good models in the QC already and hopefully many more to come sooner rather than later.
@davlavmusic707012 күн бұрын
Amen to that.
@jboy873512 күн бұрын
So I could do this with my whole pedal board that’s awesome did not know that
@davlavmusic707012 күн бұрын
Yep. That's exactly what I ended up doing. You can only do drive/ boost pedals, though.
@jboy873512 күн бұрын
@@davlavmusic7070 oh ok so compressors it won’t work then still really cool though
@Plextortion12 күн бұрын
Got the free Plini X with the latest update to the QC. Will add the Nolly when ready, If you can't do it with those two it's time for a new hobby.
@KajHeGeHaggman12 күн бұрын
Very helpful! Thank you!
@lukamacek672212 күн бұрын
What do you like more Nolly or Plini?
@davlavmusic707012 күн бұрын
I'm more of a Plini guy.
@samaitcheson705712 күн бұрын
Sadly, the plugins i want most on the QC - Rabea and Tim Henson - are likely to take the longest
@tonepilot12 күн бұрын
I ended up picking the Asato. I was going to get Morgan at some point but I’ve decided that I would like the Gojira more based on your demo. Our music tastes are similar and though I don’t use high gain very much, those clean and EOB tones sounded very good with Gojira.
@0TheRain012 күн бұрын
Gojira has a whammy pedal that I think is a little better at doing the pitch effects I like than the one that’s currently in the QC. That was a main deciding factor for me. The reverbs and delay also turned out to be really nice. I feel like a lot of what’s already in the qc can reach the tones you might want for any style already. Best sounding modeling unit out there imo.
@debrincatj12 күн бұрын
I grabbed the Asato with mine. I know it may take a long time to get it in the QC, but I love the amps and effects.
@jimamsden12 күн бұрын
Try putting the Fuzz Pi into the Vemural Ray.
@StupidGuitar12 күн бұрын
My 2 cents. Gojita is worth trialing. It’s actually got some good cleans and pedals. Love Rabea but also think that’s going to be one of the last given how hard the synth is going to take to port. Edit: I’d also check out Rabea’s presets on Gojira
@JOBarata12 күн бұрын
Man… Neural should pay you! I’m going to buy the Plini because this video! Clean and drives at the right measure! Perfect! Thank you for the video!