I use the dewalt 618 for my router table and the smaller dewalt for handheld routing.

I had to watch this at x1.25 speed 😀 dude speaks so slowly

I agree completely on the juice groove - tons of extra work for little or no gain. And I will steal your 'plate' technique - GREAT idea and very easy to create.

It’s crazy back in the day before everything started becoming battery operated, when you want it precision specialty tools, especially routers, Palm Sanders, Small belt sanders you reach for Makita. They were the best they were expensive, but they lasted. Milwaukee was always in the race and was a great brand to buy and it seems like they’re starting to lead the pack in normal tools. Not counting brands like. Festool which are great but so expensive.

I keep my 12-inch sliding miter saw on a mobile stand, making it easy to roll outside for rough-cutting lumber. Dust collection isn't a concern in the open air, and I can effortlessly break down 16-foot boards.

There is a 12v Bosch "router" (Bosch GKF 12V-8) mostly for edge trimming, with a nice long "D" shaped foot. Doesn't really fit into this category, but it's anice alternative to the metabo hpt, if you keep it on the shelf with a round over, or a chamfer bit.

Thanks for your time, analysis and this video. Well done.

Gives you better stability like that I think

Thank you - I really appreciate the video - excellent food for thought before I build my shop 🤔🙏🏻😊

Great video! I love the new Bosch. The Hercules, believe or not, is pretty good too

WOT -> I USE THIS (as an abbreviation "Double-U-Oh-Tee") QUITE OFTEN. I love the acronym. It helps to keep from wasting time while saying "Waste of time" !!! And when you said "those people are what I like to call... WRONG!" I laughed out loud.

Great video I’ve been looking for a cordless router this will definitely help me make a decision. Thanks for sharing

you might consider a folding router table .

I enjoyed your comprehensive overview of all these routers. I have the Bosch, but haven't tried any other cordless trim routers. Maybe I'm looking for confirmation bias, but I feel like I made the right choice to hold out until Bosch released their cordless router. If they hadn't done last year I probably would have bought the DeWalt, I've always liked the adjustment mechanism as it's similar to the Porter Cable routers.

Searched small shop and this is FANTASTIC!

Awesome video. I have a small shop too, pretty similar in square footage to yours. Love what you did with yours.

Thanks, a lot.

Very fair video. I agree metabo hpt honestly is the router i would get a few of due to the price leave a bit and have necessary accesories. Like you can literally buy 2 for the price of one dewalt. That's a big deal for the pro. I'm liking the Bosch but i carry milwaukee so 1 milwaukee and like 3 metabos thats. Agood sst up to cost lol

love the point: "I would rather buy something and spend my time building thing than building stuff for the shop."

Nice job

In your small shop, do you find you can live with power corded tools? Do you find the battery tools more convenient because I have a small shop and I see it as an advantage using the corded tools for power and not needed a battery (or its dependency on a platform). For that reason, I am looking at the bosch trim router but the corded version. I am curious what your thoughts are on the subject? BTW, I love your videos. I relate to your small shop perspective.

Great advice all around. After many years, I've found that my small (basement) shop has settled in to a layout that covers 90% of what I do without having to move anything. I still need everything on wheels because I want to be able to deal with other situations, but I'm finding that I don't move things around as much between operations. I've found the sweet spot for the type of woodworking I currently do. The important thing is to experiment with different layouts and figure out what works best for your type of woodworking. To your point: You're not going to figure it out by playing paper-dolls with your tools. You have to live with it for a while.

Great video and some good tips

Great review - Thanks! Didn't know that Bosch had a new cordless router - sweet!

I just got the dewalt and I thought it was tiny I wondered if it was even in the box. But I’ve been used to a full size router

BIG DAWG

7:05.. so it fits in the shipping packaging..

Where is the kobalt router in this review? Please compare and review. Good video otherwise.

I have everything on wheels in my little shop, and another benefit is being able to rearrange easily. My shop is slowly evolving as I find ways to maximize what space I have. Great to see videos with a small shop instead of the usual huge space full of expensive machinery. Just ran across your channel tonight; I like your down to earth presentation style. Subscribed!

This is the 2 video of yours i watched. I subscribed.

Love me a sweet brown reference

Great and thorough review, thanks, have subscribed!

Great video. I'll check out your other content.

The Metabo Hpt can use the MakitA plunge base because the spindle is the same diameter as the

Batteries make a huge difference in terms of performance. So, the actual routing speeds demonstrated in this video is not going to be a very accurate representation. A 4AH HP battery on the ryobi would have made a big difference in terms of performance. Their 2ah kit batteries don't have as good cells and they don't have the communication tab for the higher amp draw. A higher amp hour battery on the Milwaukee would have made a big difference as well.

So if you want Power: Flex, If you want universal tool with high quality - Milwaukee, if you want good quality and real one hand tool - Metabo HPT, If you wnat Precision and safty - Bosch, if you want cheap tool with solid quality - Ryobi;)

Love Flex

Makita was tested with weak (one row ) battery....

Great video, I only have 7 routers, so I was considering that new Bosch as an 8th. They even have a plunge base option...

As someone both on the Bosch and Hikoki (or Metabo HPT) battery platform I've been wondering which router to buy. Not anymore, thanks to you! Great overview. Thank you for this.

Thr Chip shield of the Bosch is meant to be used with the Edge routing Vac adaptor to increase efficiency. It focuses suction towards the bottom and prevents chips flying out the top.

When adjusting the Makita I hold the router sideways so gravity isn't trying to move the base. Have Bosch and ridgid routers but reach for Makita the most because it's fast to swap bits and adjust

I have the flex and I love it

Hey Daniel, this is such a great trim router comparison video. It's very well organized and edited. We make after market base plates for most of these and I sometimes get asked which router I recommend. Although I have my two favorites (Milwaukee and New Bosch) I'm definitely going to share this video with them. Thank you for such great content.

I have the Milwaukee, and it absolutely love it! Biggest things I feel could be improved, however: 1. Love that spindle lock on the Bosch and the Flex. The regular one on the Milwaukee is fine, but that design is definitely a step above, both for safety and convenience. 2. The dust chute is a _pain_ to take on and off. Not a huge thing, I know, but it feels like it takes _weirdly_ long to thread/unthread the thumb screw, to add/remove a part that’s non-structural, and essentially could just clip in and out, maybe with a simple lever to lock it in place. If you’re using it around your shop most of the time, it’s not a big deal, as you’ll just install it once and leave it in place - but if you keep your tools in Packout toolboxes to bring them to your workplace every day (like me), the dust chute is _just_ awkwardly long enough to not quite allow the tool to fit in easily with other tools, without removing it. So a quick release option here would definitely be nice. 3. And finally - another relatively minor gripe, but when setting the micro-adjustment on the depth of the router, it doesn’t _quite_ stay in the same place, once you lock it down. It’s not too big of a deal once you know how it works and can adjust for it - but every time you click the locking lever in place, the depth adjustment drops by about 1/64 of an inch. Once you know this, you can intentionally set it a smidge higher before locking it, and then double check its height once it’s locked in place - but it would be nice for it to just stay at the setting you set, and not move from there at all. All three are relatively minor things on an otherwise Great router, so I wouldn’t let that stop you if you’re already in the M18 platform and looking for a nice one to add to your toolkit! But figured I’d share them here as notes for things that _could_ still be improved - should some Milwaukee tech randomly be watching this video while doing design research for the next model 😂

I'm a big fan of Ryobi and Milwaukee, so I need to correct you a bit on that. Ryobi, rigid, and Milwaukee are separate manufacturers but under an umbrella of a majority owner which is TTI. They share some technology and patents, but they are not actually manufactured the same or even in the same countries. It's more of a best/better/good structure. Milwaukee is the best, Rigid is better, and Ryobi is good. That's also reflected in pricing, but basically Milwaukee is the first to get any and all new technology and updates, then rigid then Ryobi. Rigid is usually a generation behind Milwaukee, sometimes two, Ryobi is usually at least 2-3 generations behind Milwaukee. It's basically a waterfall of technology so eventually the Ryobi will have the power and function of a few years old Milwaukee.

Bosch ...just WOW overall design , really good switch design, speed regulation , weight , PRECISION ...again PRECISION -- true micro adjustment with fast macro and ultra precise base movement , literally like if it was made as a bushing on linear rail (router) , spindle lock switch and POWER .... :D

Today I learned that hiKoki is called metabo hpt in the US. That's gotta be annoying as hell.

I just went and turned around the finger guide part on my router. I had no idea. To be fair I've only used it a couple times.

One thing missed with the. Metabo HPT is that it has a Lifetime warranty.