@@kaysersozze oh really? Oh wow. Please do. I will happily correct the record if I was wrong. I only published what I tested and experienced but if it’s not a consistent constant experience then I should let others know. Thanks for your input

@@gamingsessions77 Having problems recording it but I will figure it out, I set OBS to record ViewVR (part of SteamVR) but it doesn't capture that performance overlay from VD, if I select to record VirtualDesktop.exe Streamer, then it records nothing, maybe you can tell me how to record it properly, how you do it?

@ Obs can’t capture the overlay. You need to record from within the quest itself or cast what you are viewing on the quest to a monitor /pc then record the viewing with obs

@@gamingsessions77 Got you, ok thanks, will do it later tonight.

​@@gamingsessions77 Okay here it is, I think I did it right, the exact location in Alyx, not a long recording but there is no point in making it longer, trust me it's like that for 10 minutes, I tried various things with it before I reached out to you, anyway you made a challenge so I hope you can make something out of this, if you need some additional info please do tell. kzbin.info20_GodhAwVI?feature=share

I appreciate you sharing these helpful tips!

@@tobibe6696 I’m 6ft 265 pounds and it fits me perfectly so anything in that range would be fine

@@sirjam34 I don’t understand the question

@ some of my games look dull on my tv. I have a game setting on my tv but everything doesn’t look crisp. I want my games to look like a bright sunny day and right now they look like a cloudy day.

@ my instructions were specifically for PC not consoles. I’m not sure if you are trolling me

@ no I’m not. I’m just asking what recommendations for Xbox series s on a tv

@@fadtidmbdmb yes I did. I commented the culprit was the codec H.264+ I used

@gamingsessions77 thank you

@gamingsessions77 how do you change thay

@@gamingsessions77Came to the comments to mention your codec .. as I went through a lot of settings myself while stressing my setup. Glad you got it fixed!

@@pfunkle lol. Sorry about that. It happens to us all. Luckily you’ve found my channel and now you will never be in the dark on things VD anymore 😀. All you need to do is subscribe 😄

Thanks for a great video!

@@gamingsessions77 I tried out Virtual Desktop last night and was switching back and forth between SteamLink and VD. WOW. The difference is literally night and day. Even Virtual desktop running SteamVR is better than Steamlink running SteamVR. I really can't believe it. Not to mention how easy it was to set up. Thanks again. My 3060Ti is getting 90 fps pretty consistently on the "medium" setting and everything looks GREAT.

@@reboot1337 this only solves a tiny, TINY portion of the issue. The main issue is the garbage chiplet, 3D vcache design in the cpu that causes consistent stuttering. It will never, & I mean NEVER go away, it’s a design flaw. Enjoy :)

@@paulm1606 thanks Paul for the question and for subscribing. So it really depends on the game you are playing. So if you are playing a slow pacing game like Alyx then you can use AVI possibly though I would still argue it’s better to use h.264+ and I also have a video on the channel demonstrating why. For fast game like race simulations you should definitely pick h.264+ every time cause it benefits from the less compression. It’s not all the recommendations VD suggest you should do cause they are recommending the safest options. If you have an optimal setup then you can afford to break those rules

Check out my video titled virtual desktop guide update. I go over reasons why H.264+ is also the codec to pick everytime IF you have the right router (6e)

@@johnc8327 yea i did see this as well. I have mine turned off too as well for now

@@johnc8327 LMAO no, I mean yea kinda, it’s a known issue sort of, but it’s the x3d chiplet bs that’s causing 99% of the issue. Don’t be naive.

@@godnamedtay I have 9800x3d and I don't notice many stutters. I was only pointing out that some of the stutters could be caused by other processes running in the background. Especially if you are using overlays.

@ lol ooook

@@godnamedtay r you stupid or what? wake up fun boy and read your lesson well before you speak WTF R U TALKING ABOUT?the design flaw is in your brain and intel's 13th 14th gens who crashing all the time and you can't do nothing but rma those garbage heater cpus not the x3ds cpus the stutters occurs is well known issue with msi afterburner mostly.LOOK you can have 13 or 14 or 15 or 16 or 17 gen intel cpu ,14ghz speed ram you can try for weeks to reach that speed in 800dollars mobo you can try to reach 7ghz all cores speed and even then you will can't be able to reach the performance of 9800or 9950x3d's. Yours best average fps will be the lows of 9800x3d' 9950x3d's 10800x3d's 109950x3d's etc.I thought intel's fucking fanboys are dead.Wake up put off the shit of your head and buy if you are truly gamer an 9800x3d or 9950x3d and enjoy real time gaming with the upcoming gpus usage to work to 100percent all the time and not bottlenecking by intel's trash cpus because of the poor cache.Go play some mmorpg and then you will realize how chaotic the difference in performance is in any non x3d cpu vs x3ds cpus and not by 20 fps you retard.The stuttering is many parameters not only related in cpu.Soon enough those micro problems with x3ds will be non exist.X3Dcache Is KING. I'm I7 8700K owner here one of the last great intel's cpus the last 7 years and now after i passed all those gens 9th 10th 11th 12th 13th 14th 15th now lol it's time to upgrade to a truly one beast in every term gaming cpu 9800x3d or 9950x3d.Buy Buy intel you was Great before you are trash now

I've also heard that that turning off core isolation can help.

@@pallevan1977 yes I’ve heard about that as well. Though in this case it was already disabled . But yea I’m aware of that as well. It was too late for me to include it in my video when I found out. Thanks though

Are you running the latest update on both the quest and the client on the PC? can you share a screenshot of it? please also help me out by subscribing

@Dboy531 did you log into your meta account on virtual desktop app on the pc

You might be right, I'm still learning about it all

@@gamingsessions77 that’s pretty much exactly how it works. The averages are complete & utter garbage. These know nothing sheep clowns buy all these x3d chips (arrow lake is no better hardly imo) deal with constant stuttering paired with a garbage daily experience & every single thing u do on ur PC is slow as balls…but oh, “ I get 20-30 more fps for a couple seconds sometimes” bruh how stupid are these people. Tech tubers are literal propaganda

@ very interesting take on the topic.

@@gamingsessions77 it’s not a take, it’s facts. How many reviews have u seen with 1% lows in ACTUAL GAMING (not bs benchmarks that mean almost nothing) that beat raptor lake? Almost 0. The cache fills up, u get massive stuttering & dips. The same exact thing happens when an x3d chip tries to compile shaders. It’s gonna take u an insane amount of time in comparison in ANY intel monolithic die cpu, period. Or try rendering literally anything on a 7800/9800x3d…good luck. U might as well go on vacation, come back & it might be almost done. People will believe anything they’re told, it’s sad.

@ i wasn’t disputing you. I mean I did do a video on the topic now didn’t i 😃

yes the axe75 is also a good one thou i dont have much experience with it. i use a axe7800. please also help me out by subscribing

@@cerealfirst8171 appreciate the thanks. Subscribing will also help a lot

Yes i do feel it stutters slightly when it drops below 90fps. the severity of the issue depends on the game I'm playing. for racing fast paced games its not as bad but for slower paced games like Alyx it might be more noticeable. setting the frame ahead to 2-3 might be a way to mitigate the issue so that it doesn't feel as bad

​@@gamingsessions77 ahh i see, i get some mini 1 or 2 fps drops even in very easy to run games, makes me think it could be network or meta related?

@ it very well could be network. What type of network are you running? It’s not so much the speed with the 5ghz channel as it is the congestion which leads to the slower decoding on the headset which then leads to the frame drops.

I appreciate you subscribing! I hope you enjoy Moza. It's a great wheel!

Yes. But this was a fresh windows install so i doubt that was it. I think the codec i was using had to do with it. I prefer using H.264+ due to the extra bandwidth and lack of compression. i use it in all my VR games with no issues till i tried Alyx so it seems it's not a good fit for Alyx though as i demonstrated in another video h.264+ is the only codec that can prevent latency spikes in Alyx when viewing electrical sparks in the games

You can try fpsVR to check if it's GPU or CPU related. It shows more in depth performance overlay with separate GPU and CPU frame time plus VRAM and RAM utilisation.

BTW I don't know why your render resolution is changing. You might try changing your runtime to VDXR and compare

thanks. but unfortunately you can't change the runtime in Alyx to VDXR. only SteamVR

I have a ryzen 7 7700x with 32 gb ram and an rtx 4070 super. I’ve completed the game twice using VD on godlike at 90hz. It looks fantastic and runs like a dream no stutter. If you’re playing wireless, is your pc connected by Ethernet and do you have a router just for pcvr that is wi fi 6 and using the 5GHz channel?

Thanks for your response. I too have played this game twice. My specs are actually a little better than yours. I have a 4090 and i had 64 gigs of ram. when i had the i7 14700k i never had any stutters and it ran smoothly. i am only noticing the stutters now on the 9800x3d. i am playing wirelessly but i have the pc connected wired and my router is a 6e using the 6Ghz channel as you can see on the video my connection is a stable 2401Mbps

@@gamingsessions77 are you just using your quest on the 6ghz channel. Nothing else connected to it?

@@gamingsessions77 also what wireless streaming application are you using?

@@Quest4Horror Virtual Desktop

@@Chillzi yea duh, it’s gonna stutter forever. NOTHING u can do. Enjoy ur extra 20 fps for a couple seconds every so often, but deal with the dipping & stuttering on a regular basis. Thanks to all these stupid PAID & hypocritical KZbinrs pushing these garbage x3d CPU’s from button pushing benchmarks with NO actual gameplay. Wtf did u think was gonna happen? Let’s be logical here, shall we?

@@dawudrashid1515 I haven’t tried it yet. Do you also have a 9800x3d

@ yea

@@dawudrashid1515 interesting….. did you turn off your x3d mode? Do you also have a 4090? I usually don’t play those types of games

@ got a 6900xt. X3d mode is off. What i have noticed is i get these problems on the first boot up of the pc. Then when i play games i have stutters and doesn’t run well. Then i reboot and then everything works perfectly most of the time. I dont even know what to google haha

@@dawudrashid1515 did you fix your problem? I am having stutter issue too on most games..Am using MSI board but x3d mode turned off.

Glad it helped

im not sure what you mean. There wasn't anything wrong with the ram. And by the way, the issue is resolved already

he was being sarcastic

The above runs most games at fiull frame rates. (unless unlocked) and i didnt have any stuttering but Intel CPUs hate Unreal games. especially Unreal 4 or 5 engine. you have to under clock slightly sometimes to run them .

FWIW it was X3d gaming mode for me. PBO only works fine

And I'm considering to move from my 14700k....

@ lol go ahead, do it, tell me how that works out for ya. U wanna sell ur 14700k? What u want for it?

@@godnamedtay you mean price or cpu? if Cpu then 9800x3d

@@neigebuttert why tf would I trade u a $500+ 9800x3d for a now $340 14700k? Are u insane. I’ll give u $170 for the 14700k tho

@@godnamedtay I don’t ask you to trade with me lol.

Yea. I dont overclock either. same reason as yours. thats why i didnt want to bother going thru the PBO in the menu. i've never overclocked any of my cpus in the past either

oh yeah War Thunder!

I use a 13900KS with 8600MT's CL36 RAM and have no issues/stutters on games even with Stalker 2..

@ did you watch the whole video and the one I did that preceded this one? I go over my experience well

I released a final update on this. The stuttering is fixed for good it appears now

@@gamingsessions77 What did you do?

@@zikaab I released another video on the channel going over what i did. i recommend you look at it.... and please subscribe :)

@@gamingsessions77 lol get used to it. There is no fix, it’s a design flaw in the cpu. While yes, some games while hide this better than others for sure…it’s never going to be fixed. Is what it is. Get a 13/14th gen i5 or i7 & problem solved

i was running 24H2 of Windows 11

Im not sure if you are being sarcastic. or perhaps im not understanding you right. i thought i did but i see 4 thumbs up and im not sure. are you suggesting we benefit as gamers when there is a monopoly in the CPU market?

@@gamingsessions77 Not at all what I wrote

Oh i get it. you mean CPU design where all components are integrated into a single chip, as opposed to a chiplet design where multiple smaller chips are combined.

@@gamingsessions77with multiple chip you have more latency, thats why he saw it.

Thats what AMD mask, 1% low is ok but 0.1% is trash.

I did notice that as well and it does depend on the type of game you are playing as well. But it seems the difference is not that significant.

Well, and I was considering to change my 14700k for this. Not sure now, but mainly playing cs2 and pubg and x3d chips show really high numbers in fps shooters...

@@denniszaan2916 glad i was able to help. I actually did return my first one because of this. It wasn’t till my second one did the same thing i had to dig in deep