Be come spiegazione del finale mi sembra che hai colto nel segno, non mi ero messo a teorizzare ed ad analizzare bene tutto nell'insieme. Hai fatto un lavoro encomiabile per questo video e per dare la spiegazione, ti do ragione sul fatto del tempo e generiolita, nel senso che i primi 2 monkey island sono stati creati da un ron Gilbert giovane e con quell'entusiasmo e voglia di avventura che si ha in quell'età mentre il terzo lo ha creato quando lui è già maturo con famiglia e di conseguenza si vede un guybrush che racconta storie inventate e incredibili per intrattenere suo figlio, probabilmente come farebbe ron con i suoi figli. Sono legato a i primi monkey island proprio per un fatto di avventura e scoperta di tante cose il terzo è molto filosofico ed è bellissimo per questo. Molti direbbero che la giusta conclusione per un capolavoro, come monkey sia questa di return, e ci sta tutta, ma sarebbe bello, visto che guybrush ha un figlio piccolo che continuasse a "raccontare" storie a lui, o addirittura trovarsi un guybrush nonno dove racconta storie al nipote con una eleine nonna anche lei e il figlio di guybrush gli va a dire di smettere ri raccontare favole

Thank you for this. After sitting through the end credits twice I couldn't do it another 7 times so came here. A bit anti-climatic of an ending but I understand it and it's always tricky ending such a great adventure :)

La "persona in costume" che sorveglia il ponte al minuto 3:00 è un cameo di George Lucas

It would have been so easy to just link this with The Curse's beginning, bringing sense to the Big Whoop and fitting the hole between 2 & 3 almost perfectly...

Imagine playing all this games just to get to know the Secret, but then it all ends like: It was all just a dream Scenario (All you did was worth nothing)

Questo video è meraviglioso, c'è una filosofia dietro davvero encomiabile e, come il finale di Return, romantica.

Non ho Tekken 8 ma dai finali dei personaggi mi sembra di capire che la maggior parte non sono cambiati x niente, la storia è sempre la stessa con la differenza che jin batte kazuya, la trasformazione di jin in angelo è mitica come quella di kazuya in vero diavolo, le unità jack sono sempre le prime a prendere mazzate come negli altri Tekken, i finali di Bryan e yoshimitsu simili ai precedenti Tekken, insomma non è cambiato granché rispetto agli altri

Ritengo che la frase "il rank non conta" sia azzeccatissima, specie nel contesto di questo video: i dati presenti sono tutti corretti, e le tue conseguenti elaborazioni del tutto condivisibili, tuttavia nella mia personale esperienza posso dire che le partite più divertenti in assoluto sono le partite dove il mio tekken prowess e rank era DI GRAN LUNGA inferiore al mio avversario, permettendomi così di imparare moltissimo, e l' esito non risulta mai scontato nonostante i dati analitici pendano maggiormente verso un determinato giocatore. Per quanto riguarda il rank del personaggio secondario, ti assicuro che un Shinryu inesperto su un personaggio secondario contro un Shinryu esperto con un personaggio primario è una sfida piuttosto equa, quasi a favore del giocatore con minor prowess. Da ex giocatore di LoL so quanto è importante un buon matchmaking e soprattutto ne conosco le frustrazioni di uno pessimo, tuttavia credo che abbia importanza più in un gioco di gruppo (come LoL, Dota o Overwatch) piuttosto che su un gioco dove realmente ció che conta è soltanto la propria esperienza, conoscenza e abilità. Relativamente ai plugger mi vedo in disaccordo su diversi punti, quali la frequenza di incontro che non ritengo particolarmente frustrante come indicato nel video, e il metodo di ban non poi così semplice visto che ai giocatori viene offerto un servizio online incluso nel pagamento del videogioco (che insomma non costa du bruscolini) e che negarne l' accesso è molto più complicato in termini legali rispetto a vari giochi competitivi free to play. Per il balancing alla fine si tratta solo di un rimescolare carte per evitare di stabilire un META fin troppo evidente.

If you skip the credits you skip the post credit secret scene! Genius game design!

Amica 500 era difficilissimo❤

Mi chiedo perché questo video abbia solo 1k views. Lo trovo di una qualità eccelsa. Grazie di aver condiviso queste considerazioni.

I honestly loved the ending of this game. It was more of a meta narrative sort of thing, but I really apprdciate how by the end, Guybrush realised how the secret wasn't even worth it. Ron Gilbert's letter is, to me, the true secret of monkey island.

It's ridiculous that Ron Gilbert expects us to sit through those unbelievably LONG and BORING credits each time to see the different post endings! May he burn in the Hell Portal under Monkey Island for such a decision! Had I known there were different endings (I couldn't stand to watch the credits even once originally, but did it just to see if it were true), I would have also saved closer to the end of the game. The nearest non-auto save was 1 hour of gameplay before the ending. The auto-save ending changed each time, of course AFTER the chest was opened, as well. No way am I going back to run through the last hour of the game (might take 15 minutes knowing what to do) just to have to sit through HOURS of the SAME CREDITS each time to see the ending. In short, thank GOD for TIMESTAMPS here so I don't have to!!!

Secondo me il finale del due non è una questione di " lasciarsi la strada aperta" ma di giocare con lo spettatore usando l'ambiguità. Detto questo dal primo all' ultimo sono passati talmente tanto anni che l'autore potrebbe aver dato un altro senso al tutto. Levine ad esempio con BioShock infinite ha stravolto la storia e non penso che avesse quell' idea dal primo capitolo. Per come la vedo io il senso del finale del terzo capitolo è che quale sia il segreto è ininfluente, potrebbe essere una stupida T-shirt, è solo il classico mac-guffin, o vero sta a dirci " siete stati una vita a chiedervi quale fosse il segreto senza rendervi conto che a contare era il viaggio e non la meta " e come chi si arrovella per il contenuto della valigetta di Pulp fiction, teorie su teorie ma alla fine il contenuto è ininfluente e probabilmente neanche Tarantino a perso del tempo pensando a cosa contenesse la valigetta. Dubito che questa idea della genitorialità l' avesse fin dal principio, in 30 avrà anche voluto aggiungere qualcosa che lo rappresentasse per l' uomo che l' autore e oggi e che non era ai tempi. Modifico il commento per aggiungere una cosa poiché non avevo finito il video. Alla fine giungiamo alla stessa conclusione. Probabilmente non era questa l'idea iniziale ma gli autori hanno ripercorso tutta storia di m.i. per dare una chiave di lettura che rappresentasse ciò che sono ora.

I guess I'm one of the few people satisfied by the ending. Ron Gilbert always wanted to end the series with "the whole Monkey Island series was just an amusement park". But he saw how fans disliked that in Monkey 2, and how they invented their own headcanon that "The Secret" was some huge revelation or plot point. So, he gave fans a chance to choose their own ending. "It was an amusement park," "It was all real", or "The Secret doesn't matter" are all options, and you pick what you want to believe. When you highlight the door to return to Monkey Island, the text even says "Deny what I thought I saw and return to the world I know". He did the ending he wanted, but also gave fans the option to choose the ending they wanted. Also, the whole story is also a metaphor for the fans. You, the player (Guybrush) are obsessed with chasing The Secret, even as Elaine warns that nothing could live up to your expectations. But she continues to support you and just wants you to enjoy the adventure.

I think you all are looking for an ending that you would never be satisfied with. Elaine and Guybrush are just Carnival Entertainers: why do you think his son is with them in the first place? You can lie to your son but that's not really what happened - if you read the note from the developers in the scrapbook they conclude by saying they were young when they made the games and grew up to be old and having kids of their own. The true secret being: they wanted to tell you all that the fantasy they made when younger was just that a fantasy, there was no true monkey island, no magic, no lechuck. The previous game even hinted at this - this was just a trip down memory lane and a way for the developers to say once and for all that there was no monkey island. (A classic Jedi Mind Trick). I'm happy to live in this fantasy that there really was a secret and go down this youtube rabbit hole where a bunch of you debate what it was but, far as I can tell - the developers grew up and had no more story to tell. You all just wanted an ending that wouldn't ever exist and I'm fine with that... I came to enjoy the game, not the ending. As for Guybrush lying to Boybrush: it's clear this is just what you would do as a storyteller: you weave the story to be your own and then you leave the person you told the ending to to make up their own minds what the ending meant. The ending was already told in the other game and you guys couldn't accept it the first time - having it happen here again repeating the same ending as told in this game just confirms it. Sure they could recon the ending here and say BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT REALLY HAPPENED! But from a narrative perspective, this ending makes the most sense and there just isn't an alternative ending that would satisfy me like Elaine says. The game is what it is, the fans wanted there to be more but there isn't Ron told you it's over, so really I think you should just accept that and move on.

Da un video all'altro e alla fine chiedono sempre soldi😅

Then again... everyone could use a new shirt #shrugs

Now that I have finished it I can say that: - Do not pay more than 20 bucks for a game.. 👍🏻

It's unfortunate I would have had to sit through the entire credits to watch the ending to each one, so thanks for doing all these for us. I think the best endings were the one with Threepwood and friends and the one with him and Elaine on the ship.

11 endings!!??? WTF!? I only see the kids running😖

Developers trying to pull a “Sopranos” ending except it’s even shittier

Uhm if had to whip out the epistemology hat i wouldnsay that the real guybrush and the real story are trapped behind the false meta narrative present in the illusions. The 4th wall, the illusions, guybrush making up a story are like a filter used to hide the real and purest narrative, a fun adventure about a goody pirate.

People who see the world in Black or White will be disappointed. They want either gold or the journey to keep going. The fact that the journey was over and there was no gold will be too much for them. People who live in the real world and realise that nothing is black or white but only shades of Gray will realize the beauty of the game.

After playing through this again, I've been thinking about the ending. It's either brilliant but disappointing, or just plain disappointing. I'm not certain which one it is. The game makes several puns alluding to it not necessarily being better to see a story through to it's conclusion. Like the whole "some stories are better that way" line of dialogue. Maybe that is the point. That the ending will never be as satisfying as the journey, which it just so happens, is absolutely true here. I thoroughly enjoy the adventure all the way up until the very end, where it suddenly just falls flat. Maybe this was a clever way of Ron Gilbert and the team cautioning players against needing an answer to everything. Maybe it was even a nod to the idea that just maybe...none of us want to see Monkey Island actually end. I know that I'm left wanting more after shutting off all the lights! Perhaps a statement about the fleeting nature of life and how one must live for the moments, rather than some future gain. Perhaps it's really meant to be an allegory for the way corporations get rich off of the amusement of others, much like Stan is seen doing at the end of the game. Or, yet still, it could be none of that and it was just meant to shock and confuse longtime players and newbies alike. Truth be told, I can't definitely say what the point was, but it's certainly memorable! However, I have come to a definite conclusion regarding the story itself. I no longer believe this tale actually occured within the Monkey Island universe. I believe it is a tall tale that Guybrush tells to lil' Guybrush and that these exact events never actually transpired. Which is why Elaine comments on the fact that the ending to this particular story keeps changing each time he tells it. I also prefer to believe this is a "hypothetical" adventure because it excuses the continuity errors in the timeline, such as Guybrush referencing Morgan LeFlay, Murray, Herman Toothrot, the fact that LeChuck is still alive and back to being a zombie...etc. In any event, these games are a joy to play and if this game has taught me one thing for sure, it's this: I don't want Monkey Island to end!

The true ending in my eyes is the Sea of Thieves crossover.

On the bright side, Guybrush’s son called out on the controversial ending 😅

This ending is absolutely insulting and it ruins the whole game.

I want a fucking ending with a big treasure to get rich and what did I become? A fucking message of the developer” its all about the story”. Fuck the story where is the Gold and happy end?

Analisi molto interessante e ti ringrazio per questo video. Condivido tutto e aggiungo una considerazione: non è detto che Gilbert abbia maturato questa idea del segreto che tu proponi solo in età adulta. Perché in effetti la genitorialità che tu vedi solo ponendo l'accento sull'essere padre probabilmente può esistere anche sull'essere figlio. Non lo sappiamo ma magari Gilbert stesso è così legato al mondo dei parchi da divertimento perché da figlio ci andava con il padre. E il padre magari si divertiva con lui e gli raccontava delle storie. É possibile quindi che già nel primo sviluppo del primo episodio, Gilbert abbia avuto l'idea di fare un gioco dedicato a questo suo rapporto con il padre. Chiaramente noi nulla sappiamo sulla sua infanzia e sui suoi genitori, ma dopo aver sentito la tua analisi non me la sentirei di escludere anche la prospettiva che Gilbert possa, in fondo, aver dedicato quest'opera dapprima al padre in quanto figlio e poi anni dopo con l'ultimo capitolo... chissà, al figlio in quanto padre.

If you enjoy feeling betrayed, heartbroken and empty then these are the perfect endings for you.

Bizarre, every time you get close to the Secret of Monkey Island, you become trapped in a elaborate illusion that you're merely a Joe Nobody visiting a pirate themed theme park. That is a lot of hoodoo for a thing that may or may not even exist.

still can't get over the graphics

Drowning ending is an incredibly sad ending to a likeable and funny character.

Don't take the key and backtrack through the catacombs, and wait for the next version of this adventure to be released. Meanwhile, play Zelda. 😊

So what happened to lechuck? Was he just a fictional character in his story? Was this whole story a lie? Didn't all the villains get to the chest first? The end didn't connect any of the dots!

I never saw the post credit scenes. So thanks for showing them. But, I feel like they cheapen the ending. If you are going to make a decision that will polarize the audience, then commit to it. Allowing the fans to choose their own ending so that the chest was filled with riches all along just takes away any impact the ending could have.

This was like The Truman Show

Soo.. What I'm getting is that Guybrush has got alzheimers and is confusing the rides in a themepark as his own life? Yea thanks for ruining a game series by making the main character mentally retarded. And I don't mean that in a derogatory way, I mean that in the literal sense. Like his brain is physically damaged. I didn't like this at all. Ruined the series for me. Even more so than the 3D game no one remembers, at least that game didn't wreck the canon storyline. I'm just gonna pretend MI1-2 remakes + MI3 are the only Monkey Island games made.

I found the Secret Of Monkey Island™️ and all I got was this stupid t-shirt

Nice thanks!!

perfect

Non mi tornano due cose: in MI2 gli occhi di Chuckie e Elaine che lo aspetta ma ho letto che potrebbe essere stata la Lucas Arts a volerli per un finale aperto quindi facciamo finta di niente. In return non mi torna sempre Elaine che gli dice all’orecchio di una nuova avventura su una certa Mire Island , come fosse un pirata vero, e soprattutto i finali post credit personalizzati in base alla scelta della risposta al figlio. Se Gilbert voleva il finale che dici tu e che sembra corretto anche a me (nonostante sia ripetitivo) perché lasciare questa possibilità? Una presa in giro ai giocatori?

This is the perfect ending for an amazing game and an amazing series. The secret was exactly what I wanted it to be, which was anything the writers threw at me. Actually I would have hated if the secret was that Elaine divorced Guybrush. I thought the game was leading up to that, and I heard about the ending being controversial, so I thought that might be what people were upset about. But Elaine and Guybrush talk it out like adults and in a way that made sense with the narrative, and it turns out people were just upset that the ending is perfect. Give it a few years, people will realize how great this ending is.

Like if you liked Tales of monkey island or at least its ending better than Return to monkey islands endings :P RtMI was good but ToMI had much more emotion and I feel like Elaine was much more like she was in MI1+2 while in RtMI she had useless scenes pointing towards an ending we didnt get (like firstly overly supportive and then it built up to some conflict but then nothing...) RtMI's ending could still have featured a climax and battle against LeChuck before turning out the way it did... like LeChuck is about to stab Guybrush and then runs out of battery... ah whatever...

The ending wasn’t ideal but still was a fun game! So many memories! But Curse is still my favorite MI game!

I haven't felt this let down by an ending since... ...I don't think I've ever felt this let down by a game ending.

I waited 32 years for this adventure to have a good ending and i got this game.

Veramente una bella analisi e video molto curato. Credo che oltre alla genitorialità, l'autore abbia voluto riflettere sul desiderio di viaggiare con la fantasia e "giocare" anche in età adulta, qualcosa che i bambini fanno naturalmente. Ecco l'ultima frase di Elaine a Guybrush: partiamo per un'altra "avventura".

Disappointing ending for an awesome game. Makes me feel kinda empty.