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@TP16862
@TP16862 2 ай бұрын
I ordered a VPC1 this week, and it’s expected to arrive this weekend. I haven’t had any issues yet, but since the key problems with the VPC1 are so well-known, I was looking for information. It seems like this will be very helpful later on. Thank you.
@debrucey
@debrucey 2 ай бұрын
I got a good 5 or 6 years out of mine before I started experiencing problems. Once they started it was like whack-a-mole; as soon as I fixed one key another one would stick. I paid a technician to do a full replacement of the slip tape, and it only lasted about a year before keys started sticking again. Very frustrating. My advice would be to replace them all with felt as soon as you start encountering problems.
@parmenidis5766
@parmenidis5766 2 ай бұрын
Danke dir!!!
@bendirval3612
@bendirval3612 5 ай бұрын
This is extremely helpful. I have been removing the little plastic surfaces and re-attaching them but it's not a long-lasting solution. Does this appreciably change the way the keys feel (versus when they were new)?
@PaulShillito-up8im
@PaulShillito-up8im 6 ай бұрын
Hi Martin, many thanks for your excellent guidance. I have now replaced all 88 pieces of slip-tape on my Kawai CA65 with the recommended felt tape. The most difficult task was cleaning the glue remaining on the ends of the wood keys. I found petrol lighter fluid to be the most effective. I did mark all 88 hammers but maybe this is not necessary, perhaps only ensure that you match white and black keys to the appropriate hammer (they have different screw lengths). The sticky-key effect renders the instrument almost unplayable and I wonder why Kawai did not anticipate the design flaw. Best wishes.
@PopGoesTheWorld2023
@PopGoesTheWorld2023 8 ай бұрын
Imagine Kawai selling a piano like this and not seing this as a problem. I have the CS11 and have repaired the keys every year since I got it.
@pianodoctor62
@pianodoctor62 7 ай бұрын
This bad slip tapes are a reason not buying this pianos . The Drappstoff repai is a solution - but it takes time
@PopGoesTheWorld2023
@PopGoesTheWorld2023 7 ай бұрын
@@pianodoctor62 Yes exactly. The CS11 is at the same time a pain to take apart to get to the keys. Bit I have the drappstoff on maybe 10 keys now, and its working fine. So next time I open up the piano the rest will follow.
@emilianoserojemerlin9290
@emilianoserojemerlin9290 9 ай бұрын
hi, thanks for video. I need to say if this solution can be usefull for Kawai mp11se with grand feel. I have this issue now. Thanks for reply
@pianodoctor62
@pianodoctor62 7 ай бұрын
good luck
@malekkinos
@malekkinos Жыл бұрын
Waht about the alternative solution: from Kawai the original Teraoka no 777 tape + TPFE (Teflon 0.5mm)?
@pianodoctor62
@pianodoctor62 7 ай бұрын
will not last very long - don't do it
@자전거고수-x6i
@자전거고수-x6i Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the detailed instructions! 2 questions: 1) I know I am supposed to add a thin layer of silicone oil on KAWAI slip tapes(according to the repair manual I got from Kawai US. (I replaced slip tapes twice for the last 8 years) Do I also need to add some silicone oil on the felt? 2) Attaching the felt with some adhesive seems hard to peel off the felt afterward. Any recommended adhesive(with specific brand/model) that is easy to rework afterward?
@pianodoctor62
@pianodoctor62 7 ай бұрын
no do not put the silicone on the felt - you could use a teflon spray on the felt.
@debrucey
@debrucey 2 ай бұрын
@@pianodoctor62 teflon spray... can you recommend a specific product please? do you think teflon powder would work? since that's often used with felt in acoustic pianos.
@Matzokano1
@Matzokano1 Жыл бұрын
Perfekt beschrieben. Jetzt nur noch ran trauen und genug Zeit mitbringen... Danke
@pianodoctor62
@pianodoctor62 Жыл бұрын
Schaffst du sicher ... Ca. 5 Stunden....für alle 88 Tasten...
@casserolemartin8799
@casserolemartin8799 Жыл бұрын
warum darf das" let off " nicht gefettet werden ?
@pianodoctor62
@pianodoctor62 7 ай бұрын
let off = auslassen - das Fett soll nut ganz dünn auf die angegeben Stellen drauf- sonst klebt es an den Piloten.....
@casserolemartin8799
@casserolemartin8799 Жыл бұрын
Hallo Martin, super hilfreiches Vidéo 😀 Kann man auch jeden anderen Filz aus dem Baumarkt nehmen, der 2mm dick ist ? Und zu dem Fett: was ist an dem Fett von Kawai anders als bei anderen Fetten?
@pianodoctor62
@pianodoctor62 7 ай бұрын
leider ist gepresster Filz nicht wiederstandsfähig und etwas weicher. Ich habe den gepressten jedoch nie eingesetzt. test es an ein paar tasten mal aus. Besser nimm den Gewebten Filz = Drappstoff und repariere alle 88 tatsten. LG Martin
@peeess7245
@peeess7245 Жыл бұрын
Great instructions. For folks from the US: E6000 clear adhesive works well instead of the Pattex. The company Meyne will ship to the US, you will not need to pay the 19% VAT, but shipping is a bit higher (for 2 rolls Euro 12.50). As someone commented you need to adjust the hammer by ~1 rotation clockwise as the felt is a bit thicker. BTW: Clue = Hinweis, Glue = Kleber 😉
@pianodoctor62
@pianodoctor62 7 ай бұрын
sorry GLUE :-) i am German ....:-)
@gregs5154
@gregs5154 Жыл бұрын
Oh man. I've done this *but* I used superglue. It's only been a week since I fixed my sticky keys but the action feels a lot more spongy now. I think I'm going to have to strip her down again and use the recommended glue. Anyone else have this experience?
@FunSketchMovies
@FunSketchMovies 9 ай бұрын
Why would it feel different by using another kind of glue? It’s only used to attach the wooven felt to the key. I try to replace mine as well and consider using this method with drappstoff.
@gregs5154
@gregs5154 9 ай бұрын
@@FunSketchMovies I think I was just being a bit paranoid. It certainly felt strange for a while but settled down after a bit of playing. It seems ok after these months of use. I do however need to do a whole set of other keys. So probably will do all remaining keys rather than have to keep going back to it.
@FunSketchMovies
@FunSketchMovies 9 ай бұрын
I don’t like to hear that spongy feeling you mention, still seems that you don’t fully enjoy the solution. I know I’m very picky about the key action. I tried a new MP11SE at store and it felt very smooth, I would like the achieve the same with my second hand MP11SE
@Jim0i0
@Jim0i0 Жыл бұрын
It took me several minutes to realize that Clue = Glue.
@pianodoctor62
@pianodoctor62 Жыл бұрын
Sorry
@pianodoctor62
@pianodoctor62 Жыл бұрын
Heute ist eine letzte Taste nach einem Jahr ausgefallen, die ich noch mit einem Letzten slip tape belassen hatte . gerade ausgetauscht gegen Drappstoff . Jetzt sind alle 88 Tasten
@MineLantern
@MineLantern Жыл бұрын
Hi Martin, super Video! Wie sieht es jetzt nach zwei Jahren aus mit dem Drappstoff? Funktioniert alles noch wie gehabt?
@pianodoctor62
@pianodoctor62 7 ай бұрын
alles noch tip top, bis jetzt die Lösung für die schlecheten slip tapes von KAWAI
@Sfeerkeukens
@Sfeerkeukens Жыл бұрын
I love this video. Thank you.
@MattRileyMusic
@MattRileyMusic Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video! Is there a similar woven felt that can be purchased in the USA?
@pianodoctor62
@pianodoctor62 Жыл бұрын
Hello Matt , can you send me a link ?
@maartenstoop1306
@maartenstoop1306 Жыл бұрын
Hi Martin Great Video! Do you have an idea if there is a manual for the CA78 model? So I can have a look on how to dissassemble the paino without damaging it. :)
@pianodoctor62
@pianodoctor62 Жыл бұрын
Sorry I only found only CS Series, maybe Kawai could send the required info… write an email to Kawai in Germany, they will help….
@shjarrold
@shjarrold Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this clear instruction video. Would this be suitable as an alternative and cut to size, or does the Drappstoff have a particular density that makes it more suitable due to similar density to the Terakao 777? (sorry if this comment keeps apperaing but on my youtube the comment seems to disappear)
@shjarrold
@shjarrold Жыл бұрын
Ok, I've left 3 replies with a link to the product in question all deleted. I'll try with this description that you can hopefully search for to see what I'm asking about 'Red Spring Rail Felt Strip for Piano Keyboard Replacement 130x1.9cm'
@pianodoctor62
@pianodoctor62 Жыл бұрын
Hello Scott , Drappstoff is the unofficial alternativ to terakao 777 from Kawai. It’s a woven felt with 2mm. I found the feeling is quite similar.
@shjarrold
@shjarrold Жыл бұрын
@@pianodoctor62 Thanks for the info Martin. if you have the time could you search this one and let me know if you think it would be an ok alternative to Drappstoff? Its the same 2mm thinkness, but also has glue already on one side, paste this in your search 'RED SPRING Rail Felt Strip for Piano Keyboard Replacement 130x1.9cm' And again thank you so much for the info!¬)
@pianodoctor62
@pianodoctor62 Жыл бұрын
@@shjarrold hello Scott, I cannot agree because I have not tested this. The main point is that the felt must be a woven felt with a texture. The most felts are not woven felts they are knitted felts. Knitted felt is not as stable as woven felts from meyne piano parts. b2c.meyne.com/Filz-Leder-Papier/Filz/Streifen/Drappstoff/
@shjarrold
@shjarrold Жыл бұрын
@@pianodoctor62 Ok, many thanks for making that information clear! Vielen Dank :¬)
@pianodoctor62
@pianodoctor62 Жыл бұрын
here again the source of Drapptstoff felt 2mm thickniss : b2c.meyne.com/en/Felt-Leather-Paper/Felt/Strips/Box-Cloth/WHITE-BOX-CLOTH-2-0-mm-60-x-3-cm.html?listtype=search&searchparam=7222
@khemaraang
@khemaraang Жыл бұрын
Exactly what I was looking for, all the instructions I need! Will try it on my CA95
@pianodoctor62
@pianodoctor62 Жыл бұрын
my CS7 works now since more than 1 year without the problems from defective slip tapes. Good succes with you repair - it takes 4-5 hours to change all 81 keys... Martin
@ethanzuck8092
@ethanzuck8092 Жыл бұрын
Do let me know how it goes!! I have had this problem for so long and am going to try this approach as well on my Kawai CA95.
@khemaraang
@khemaraang Жыл бұрын
@@ethanzuck8092 I have just finished changing it yesterday! It took me more than 4/5 hours, mostly because of the time it takes to clean the keys from the original tape and the glue residue! It's reaaaaaaaaaaally long. Went with alcohol and a scratchy cleaning cloth (sponge like) to remove it, sandpaper didn't cut it for me One thing which is not detailed in this video is the piano disassembly process, which I found to be perfectly documented on this other video from David Izquierdo Azzouz: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rpCuenZ8o9R1aJY . After doing all that, cutting/gluing the felt pads & putting the keyboard back together, everything seems to be working perfectly, with the notable difference that a few keys (5 or 6) are not perfectly aligned at the same height anymore (1 mm or so lower than their neighbours). I have no idea of what is the main reason, knowing that I cleaned/cut/glued all the keys the same way. Also, the key vertical travel feels sensibly reduced: the old pad were quite more worn in the middle (2:08) so it might be the reason behind the difference. I haven't had the time to really playtest after reassembly other than to make sure everything was working perfectly, so I didn't notice any odd change in key behaviour. However the difference in touch is noticeable but in a good way! Other than that, all good! Even if I'm still not sure if spending basically my whole Sunday it to fix like 2 keys was worth it, (future will tell) but at least I'll be able to handle future potential repairs with confidence :)
@pianodoctor62
@pianodoctor62 Жыл бұрын
@@khemaraang perfect well done
@pianodoctor62
@pianodoctor62 Жыл бұрын
@@khemaraang the high of the keys can be adjusted with the paper rings under each key. The rings are available in different thickness….
@melodicsenior
@melodicsenior Жыл бұрын
Firstly, thank you for your video, I found it very informative. I have a Kawai MP11 SE with need of attention due to sticky keys. I looked into buying the felt (drappstoff) from Meyne but the postage cost (55 Euros) is inhibitive. I am currently looking for an alternative in the UK, and I will add to the comments here when successful for anyone in the UK. Thank you again for your time to explain this essential repair for anyone with a GF keyboard.
@pianodoctor62
@pianodoctor62 Жыл бұрын
Hello I also tried to find other felts from Asia but the thickness was to big…… the meyne felt works perfectly 😊
@pianodoctor62
@pianodoctor62 Жыл бұрын
Did you found the drappstoff it in UK ?
@melodicsenior
@melodicsenior Жыл бұрын
​@@pianodoctor62 Hi Martin G, I couldn't find any suitable felt in the UK, so I purchased it from Meyne in the end. They did reduce my order from 55 to 15 euros which I was happy with. I have repaired every key on my Kawai MP11 SE, and I am very pleased to report that it works beautifully again :). As you said, the thickness of the drappstoff felt was perfect, so I didn't have to adjust the capstan height. Thank you so much for your very instructive video Martin G, it is so nice to be able to play music with sensitivity again!
@van_dylan
@van_dylan Жыл бұрын
@@melodicsenior I'm glad you repaired your MP11SE yourself, how long did it take for it to give you problems? I currently have an MP7se, a very good plastic RH3 action, but I want a wooden action like the MP11se, but I'm afraid if I buy it new, how long will it take more or less for it to give you problems? Wouldn't that be covered by the warranty? Greetings from Germany 🙂
@melodicsenior
@melodicsenior Жыл бұрын
@@van_dylan Hi van_dylan, Guten Arbend, the repair took me about 4 hours but it was not difficult. The action on the MP11 is as good as the reviews but it is disappointing that the key action isn't very durable. I am hoping that the repair will last longer than the original system. I use the Kawai every day and so far it works beautifully. I am glad that I fixed it myself and didn't get it done under the guarantee for two reasons: I know how to fix it again now if I need to and if Kawai fixed it, it would have the poorly designed original system again. I hope I have helped :)
@elephantsdad
@elephantsdad 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Martin! Nice video you have here, thanks for the effects~! Two questions : 1, does keys feel any different from original? 2, does it make any noise at all? Many thanks~!
@pianodoctor62
@pianodoctor62 Жыл бұрын
the feeling is more or less the same - for me no difference - the noice is a very similar a little bit harder - but every piano make much more noise :-)
@myako7505
@myako7505 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your videos it save me a lot. My Kawai CS11 has the same problems…stiff keys, sticky and slow keys, I can’t even enjoy it anymore . Can you send me the link for the Drappstoff-felt tape on the website because I can’t find the 2mm for fixing them.
@pianodoctor62
@pianodoctor62 Жыл бұрын
see also my videos of KAWAI Sliptape kzbin.info/www/bejne/r5_PaoONg69jppY
@pianodoctor62
@pianodoctor62 Жыл бұрын
Hello sorry for the very late answer…see link for Drappstoff b2c.meyne.com/Filz-Leder-Papier/Filz/Streifen/Drappstoff/
@motorstock10
@motorstock10 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Martin for sharing the info
@pianodoctor62
@pianodoctor62 Жыл бұрын
my pleasure
@nic0856
@nic0856 2 жыл бұрын
Hallo Marco. Danke für diese tolle Veranschaulichung jetzt versteht man endlich mal was eigentlich das Problem ist. Ich hab gerade mein Piano auf gemacht (CA65) und gesehen, dass sich bei mir nicht bei jeder Taste ein sliptape befindet. Manche haben einfach nichts auf dem Holz aufgetragen und andere haben vereinzelt eine andere Bedeckung. Ist das üblich oder würde bei meinem Klavier gefuscht (haben es nie zur Reparatur gegeben). Danke nochmal für das tolle Video.
@pianodoctor62
@pianodoctor62 2 жыл бұрын
Alle Tasten haben ein slip tapes…Grüße Martin
@nic0856
@nic0856 2 жыл бұрын
@@pianodoctor62 danke für die schnelle Antwort. Du bist echt ein Held 🙂
@alonfrank1665
@alonfrank1665 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, is this the same case for the RM3 Grand II action (Kawai VPC-1) ?
@pianodoctor62
@pianodoctor62 2 жыл бұрын
I checked it , I think the same architecture,
@daniloff1310
@daniloff1310 2 жыл бұрын
Hallo Martin, vielen Dank für dein detailiertes und gut erklärtes Video. Werde mich dann bei meinem CS 11 an die Arbeit machen.
@pianodoctor62
@pianodoctor62 2 жыл бұрын
Nur Mut es lohnt sich, plane ca. 8 - 10 Stunden ein….
@pianodoctor62
@pianodoctor62 2 жыл бұрын
Erfolg gehabt, Daniloff
@daniloff1310
@daniloff1310 2 жыл бұрын
@@pianodoctor62 Hallo Martin, ja, im Prinzip schon, allerdings ist der Anschlag jetzt bei einigen Tasten anders als vorher, das kleine as geht z.B. schwerer, was echt störend ist.
@pianodoctor62
@pianodoctor62 2 жыл бұрын
@@daniloff1310 bitte diese Tasten richtig reinigen. Das Fett wird nach Jahren steif.ich habe die Schmierstellen gute gereinigt , minimal eingefettet und den Drappstoff mit Teflonspray behandelt. Die Piloten hammerköpfe auch gut reinigen....
@daniloff1310
@daniloff1310 2 жыл бұрын
@@pianodoctor62 Danke, dass du dich nochmal meldest. Ja, irgendwie geht die Tastatur nicht mehr so richtig, ich habe allerdings die Schmierstellen nicht gereinigt und auch nicht gefettet. Kawai riet davon ab. Der Anschlag ist im Augenblick irgendwie schwerer und auch von der Anschalgsdosierung nicht so richtig berechenbar, jede Taste reagiert anders. Gefühlt ist es so, als würde der Drappstoff am Hammer haften. Die Hammerköpfe habe ich allerdings gut mit Alkohol gereinigt. Die Teflonbehandlung könnte da wohl helfen. Aber geht das Spray nicht auch dahin, wo man es evt. nicht haben will?
@michaellee7228
@michaellee7228 2 жыл бұрын
Und noch eine Frage: Wozu sind diese Papierringe unter den Tasten gut? Gibt es die auch zu kaufen, der ein oder andere geht beim Tastenausbauen leider verloren...
@pianodoctor62
@pianodoctor62 2 жыл бұрын
die Papierringe gleichen den Höhenunterschied einzelner Tasten exakt aus. Die gibts auch bei Kawai über den Händler oder bei Meyne Gmbh b2c.meyne.com/Filz-Leder-Papier/Papier/Sortiment-Filz-Papier-Scheiben.html?force_sid=9fbee39dfc720da5fdb931936ca16747
@michaellee7228
@michaellee7228 2 жыл бұрын
Hallo Martin. Super Video! Wo bekommt man die im Tutorial genannten Fette her? Gibt es die Abbildung mit den zu fettenden Stellen irgenwo etwas größer?
@pianodoctor62
@pianodoctor62 2 жыл бұрын
GIlt für die TYPEN WN WP WM bei CS6,7,9 CA95, 93, 65,13 MP10 CP 139, 179 209 Die Fette gibt es von KAWAI über deinem Händler hier die Bezeichnungen TKH-65 oder G524 für die Wiederstands Zungen Die Lagerstelle mit FTG50 (nur sehr wenig) fetten. Nach Jahren wird das FTG50 leider etwas zäh. Dann sauber machen und sehr wenig auftragen Sonst nichts fetten alle X stellen (kein Pilote keine Kontakte)
@batner
@batner 2 жыл бұрын
Kawai CS8 service manual is now available on various manual websites. I have found out about it yesterday. It has the relevant key calibration data.
@pianodoctor62
@pianodoctor62 Жыл бұрын
perfect
@batner
@batner 2 жыл бұрын
Martin, Hi! So I got another two keys getting sticky and decided to try your way. The felt you suggested does work exactly as you said it would. There is no difference I can feel between slip tape and Drappstoff. But there is a need to regulate the screw to keep the original range of motion of the hammer. If I play 2 keys together I can hear the sound of the one with the felt before the one with the slip tape. If you change the whole keyboard at once you will not hear the difference but the range of motion will be shorter. TL.DR: Rotate the regulation screw by one full turn clockwise to make it shorter. Details: After replacing the slip tape with felt, I insert the key and hammer back in it's place. I play that key "forte" several times to compact the felt and get a ruler. When the key is at rest, I measure the vertical distance between the metal triangle tip of the hammer and the wooden key. My measurements are: for white keys it is 20mm, for black keys 25mm, measured on rarely used keys with original slip tapes. Some original white keys showed 23mm, black keys 30mm. I am not sure what is the deal with it. If you have any official documentation about it, i would love to know the right way. So I rotate the regulation screw to make it shorter until I get the distance about right.
@pianodoctor62
@pianodoctor62 2 жыл бұрын
I could send you an Instruction manual cs7....to your email Adresse
@pianodoctor62
@pianodoctor62 2 жыл бұрын
See also my German Video and the discussion and explanation in german
@batner
@batner 2 жыл бұрын
@@pianodoctor62 Of course I saw your german version. I was the one who asked you about english subtitles. But you went "full power" and just made a whole new video in english.
@askaboutme2008
@askaboutme2008 2 жыл бұрын
Hallo Martin, danke für dein hilfreiches Video.. Ich habe mir vor zwei Tagen, über Ebay ein Kawai CA 65 gekauft..Einige der Tasten hängen leider auch fest..Nun versuche ich seit gestern mich im Internet über das Problem zu informieren.. Leider habe ich auf KZbin kein Video über Öffnen und Reinschauen in ein Kawai CA gefunden.. Worauf sollte man beim Abbauen achten und muss man z.B. auch irgendwelche Kabeln im Piano ausstecken? Jetzt schon vielen herzlichen Dank dir für deine Tipps..
@pianodoctor62
@pianodoctor62 2 жыл бұрын
Hallo askaboutme2008 :-), Das CA 65 gehört der Concert Artist Serie an , sehr ähnlich dem CS 8, CS7 mit der GRAND FEEL Tastatur , hier findest du ein Service Manual, www.manualslib.com/manual/1247604/Kawai-Cs8.html Frag mal bei Kawai an, die schicken dir auch eine Anleitung zum öffnen falls du merkst das die vom CS8 nicht passt. Ich habe CS7 schon oft aufgemacht und schaffe das Öffnen und Schliessen mittlerweile in 20 MInuten :-). So gehts CS7 - Piano ausschalten - Rückwand 12 Schrauben mit Akkuschrauber (Kreuzschlitz) rausschrauben. Schrauben gut aufbewahren, die fallen off ins Piano :-(. Rückwand abheben Oberteil nach vorne schieben und abheben. Kalvierdeckel ausbauen dazu den Deckel nach hinten schieben und links und rechts die Schrauben am Zahnrad zur Stange lösen.Deckel nach vorne schieben und seitlich verschieben damit man die Führung aushängen kann. Deckel abheben. Tastenleiste mit Lautsprecher (beim Cs7) lösen, . Die Lautsprecher lasse ich verkabelt. Dazu links und rechts 2 Schrauben abschrauben (ich nehme immer die Stirnseitigen nicht die seitlichen 2, da man dort mit dem Schraubendreher(Hand) nur schlecht beikommt Mittig die Schrauben der Tastenleiste auch lösen und die Leiste vorsichtig oben auf dem Klavier ablegen ohne die Kabel zu beschädigen. Die Tasten sind jetzt zugänglich. Die hebt man wie folgt raus. Hammer anheben und mit einem dünnen Werkzeug gegenherunterfallen sichern. Taste vorne anheben über den Stift heben (vorsichtig). Taste entnehmen und die Unterleg-Papierscheiben nicht verlieren (die kleben oft unten an). Hammer entnehmen. Slip tapes austauschen oder filz aufkleben. - Hammerköpfchen (Pilote) sehr gut reinigen. Hammer einhängen (von unten) - hochheben - Taste unter den Piloten führen Taste über den Stift nach unten fallen lassen- Hammer fallen lassen Taste und Hammer drücken und Funktion prüfen. Das dann bei 88 Tasten (dauert ein paar stunden-na ja - hab dazu Supertramp gehört : Crime of the Century......) Piano wieder zusammen bauen. Alles in Allem nicht schwierig - Auf Kabel und Elektronik achten - Schrauben nicht verlieren. Akkuschrauben nicht zu fest einstellen, Pilote sehr sauber machen (Baumwolltuch mit Alkohol, Aceton (aber trocken reiben)) Viel Spass - melde mal wenn es fertig ist. P.S. Ich hatte schon 2 mal Slip Tapes eingebaut (Cuttermesser zum Schneiden benutzen keine Schere) Das hält so ein Jahr dann klebt es wieder. Die Tasten kleben wegen dem Slip tape,das verrutscht und weil der Pilote dann verklebt ist. Aber auch weil das Fett an den Hämmern sehr zäh wird. Das hatte ich dann an ein paar Tasten später auch entfernt und neues verwendet (KAWAI FETT - nachfragen bei KAWEI s. Anleitung CS7 oder CS8) Bei Fragen zu Filz , Klebstoff , Fett oder Artikelnummern..... hab ich so ziemlich alles zusammen mfg Martin
@pianodoctor62
@pianodoctor62 2 жыл бұрын
schau mal diese an : kzbin.info/www/bejne/kJS1o6mflpWebZY
@NeverTalkToCops1
@NeverTalkToCops1 2 жыл бұрын
Severe design flaw, in my opinion. GF2 with the round screw head dimpling a cheesy little pad is really garage style goober level of design.
@pianodoctor62
@pianodoctor62 2 жыл бұрын
unfortunately very often used in KAWAI CS CA MP models. I changed it:-) to piano wooven felt 2mm. You are right - 2500 -3000 EUR and such a design is unbelivable . Kawai changed it in the last years to GF3 keys without sliptapes.
@JasonGeraldG
@JasonGeraldG Жыл бұрын
Terrible design. Anyone should have seen this problem coming for so many reasons (use of glue, foam under teflon, need for teflon, etc...
@pianodoctor62
@pianodoctor62 Жыл бұрын
@@JasonGeraldG your are right… bad design by Kawai
@FunSketchMovies
@FunSketchMovies 9 ай бұрын
It is. And it is not only about the sliptape and sticky keys. I think the dimpling tend to make the keyaction less smooth and heavier over time. I bought a second-hand Kawai with GF2 and I recently compared it with a new one at the store and I could not believe how much better the new one was (exact same model)
@fritzhille1141
@fritzhille1141 3 жыл бұрын
Hallo Martin, könnte man nicht einfach eine Taste aus der Mitte des Manuals gegen das tiefe A tauschen, dass ja so gut wir nie benutzt wird? Oder muss jede Taste an einer genau vorgegebenen Position sein? Ferner, gibt es irgendwo eine Anleitung, wie man beim CS 11 die Tastatur freilegt? Besten Dank!
@pianodoctor62
@pianodoctor62 3 жыл бұрын
Die Tasten sind unterschiedlich gewichtet...ich würde die Tasten wiegen... Bei Kawai Deutschland Mal nachfragen....
@pianodoctor62
@pianodoctor62 2 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/kJS1o6mflpWebZZh video dazu - sehr ähnlich zum CS7 ....
@pianodoctor62
@pianodoctor62 2 жыл бұрын
Service Manual CS8 - link is the one : www.manualslib.com/manual/1247604/Kawai-Cs8.html
@Dubb1000
@Dubb1000 3 жыл бұрын
This is such an awesome video, thank you for taking the time to present this information Sir.
@pianodoctor62
@pianodoctor62 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot
@Dodo-ph2hj
@Dodo-ph2hj 3 жыл бұрын
Hallo und vielen Dank für das anschauliche und hilfreiche Video! Ich habe ein CA65 (mit meines Wissens Grand Feel 1-Tastatur) und das gleiche Problem mit den klebenden Tasten. Weißt du zufällig, ob deine Anleitung in gleicher Weise auch für für die GF1-Tastatur gilt? Und noch eine Frage: Bekommt man den Filz mit dem Kraftkleber auch wieder ab oder gibt das dann eine Sauerei? Auch wenn der Drappstoff lange hält, muss man ihn ja vermutlich auch irgendwann wieder wechseln. Vielen dank und schöne Grüße Dorin
@pianodoctor62
@pianodoctor62 3 жыл бұрын
Die GF1 Tastatur ist sehr ähnlich wie die im Video gezeigt images.app.goo.gl/GsAHr8fgjz4gMWYP9 Den Filz entfernt man durch zusätzliches Abschleifen..... Einfacher geht's bei Holz oder Hautleim. Hält aber nicht so gut. Der Filz löst sich u. U. Beim Spielen.....ich bliebt nach dem testen mit verchiedenen Leimen beim Kraftkleber.
@karsten4400
@karsten4400 3 жыл бұрын
Very good instruction, thanks for this. I did as recommended by you to repair my Kawai CA65 but used Pattex Gel because it's easier to handle. Costs around 25€ including Drappstoff, Pattex Gel and Alcohol for cleaning plus a lot of time, but now it's like new again.
@pianodoctor62
@pianodoctor62 3 жыл бұрын
Perfect
@snookergerd8928
@snookergerd8928 3 жыл бұрын
Hallo! sehr gut erklärt - vielen Dank! Eine Frage: ich habe das selbe Problem mit meinem CA 79, das ich mir vor einem Jahr gekauft habe. Mir wurde aber mitgeteilt, dass das die neue CA-Serie diese Sliptapes nicht mehr verwendet? Fakt ist, dass ich das selbe Probelm habe... LG, Gerd
@pianodoctor62
@pianodoctor62 3 жыл бұрын
Hallo Gerd, du solltest eine GFIII Tastatur haben, die haben einen Kunststoffschuh am Ende der Tasten, also keine Slip tapes. Wollte ich mir auch kaufen. Eventuell gibts hier ein anderes Problem……? Wenn du Garantie hast melde es bei Deinem Verkäufer. Die beauftragen dann einen Techniker. Schreib mal Kawai Europe an. Lg martin
@snookergerd8928
@snookergerd8928 3 жыл бұрын
@@pianodoctor62 Vielen Dank für die schnelle Antwort!
@anthonyortiz7924
@anthonyortiz7924 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@pianodoctor62
@pianodoctor62 3 жыл бұрын
My pleasure ...good success...Takes 8 hours for all 88 keys.
@batner
@batner 3 жыл бұрын
b2c.meyne.com/en/Felt-Leather-Paper/Felt/Strips/Box-Cloth/WHITE-BOX-CLOTH-2-0-mm-60-x-3-cm.html?listtype=search&searchparam=7222 This one?
@pianodoctor62
@pianodoctor62 3 жыл бұрын
Yes thats what you need for a repair
@batner
@batner 3 жыл бұрын
Can you please enable caption autotranslation to english if possible?
@yesthisismew
@yesthisismew 3 жыл бұрын
just go on settings (the small gear on the bottom of the video) --> subtitles --> translate automatically and there you can change your language
@pianodoctor62
@pianodoctor62 3 жыл бұрын
the Translation is funny but not 100% ok. I will prepared it in English in the next days.:-)
@batner
@batner 3 жыл бұрын
@@yesthisismew i tried to find it. maybe i missed something. Are you using YT from PC?
@batner
@batner 3 жыл бұрын
@@pianodoctor62 Autotranslation should be funny and I think that I'm brave enough to try. I actually use those a lot.
@pianodoctor62
@pianodoctor62 3 жыл бұрын
@@batner my english version comes in a few hours :-)