Sold your house? My thought is to buy the boat with a home equity loan and rent the house out to cover the note. I should be cash flow positive. What am I missing?
@jetguy1205Ай бұрын
Did you ever make a review of sunsail?
@rbm7101Ай бұрын
According to IRC section 163(h) (4), a boat will be considered a qualified residence if it is one of the two residences chosen by the taxpayer for purposes of deductibility in the tax year. A qualified residence must have basic living accommodations including sleeping space (berth), a toilet (head), and cooking facilities (galley). If the boat is also chartered, the taxpayer will have to use the boat for personal purposes for either more than 14 days or 10% of the number of days during the year the boat was actually rented, to qualify for the interest deduction in accordance with IRC section 280A(d)(1).
@jaapBooij-rz1idАй бұрын
Yes , a lot of money if a ship has these issues , everything can be solved and a lot of these issues are due to failed maintenance, design , general quality. But to repair it takes time and again money. In a boat market ,as it is now, with falling prices a difficult decision .
@svthorasailing48682 ай бұрын
$282 US is still a high price for a 2005 year model cat.
@jnwood861121 күн бұрын
With the amount of "customization" that the previous owners did, this was a $250,000 cat at best. I would have bought a much better mono, 10 years younger.
@JohnLee-im7iu2 ай бұрын
Thank you for the honest review. Would like to know about insurance costs, coverages and company that insured the boat.
@Mordalo3 ай бұрын
Talk about biased. The 450 is the only one with the hull issue and leopard has even more issues. In fact, they all have their histories. And comparing a plastic/glass interior to wood of any kind and expecting the wood to wear better than the glass, is just ridiculous. Wood requires more care, no doubt. Then again, an all plastic/glass interior feels like a hospital or prison cell.
@bastianhanschitz28393 ай бұрын
I'd be careful with adjusting bearing in bulk. You took +3 for all values, shouldn't each be corrected individually? A Mnemonic I use is "Empty Sea, Add Water" to remember: "Map to Compass, add West", "eM T C, A W"
@BFSailing3 ай бұрын
Hi, Bastian! Thanks for the comment! I actually think you can correct them in bulk. Let me try to explain why. When the boat is on course 028°psc, you take the bearing on the reference object by sighting across your boat's compass. Compass error is specific to the direction the boat is pointed at the time you take the readings. So, if your autopilot is on and it's steering the same course when you take your bearings for all the fixes then you should use exactly the same deviation when correcting all of the bearings. However, if you chose to turn the boat away from 028°psc and point the boat at the first reference object before you recorded the bearing and then point the boat at the second reference object and same on the third then your concern is spot on! You would need to use the deviation prescribed for each individual direction. However, I don't think this is what the test questions want. If you did the "turn the boat" approach then the 028°psc would not be relevant to the question. You would be calculating all of the individual deviations after you turned your boat. Another way your concern would be correct is if you were using a hand held compass to sight your bearings. Of course, if you did that, you would need to have a deviation study done using your hand held compass while on your boat and, again, the course of the boat would be irrelevant. So, I don't think that's what they had in mind either. I appreciate you caution, however, and as I say at the end of the video, I encourage you to get out your chart and do your own practice problems to determine if the method would work for you.
@bastianhanschitz28393 ай бұрын
@@BFSailing Thanks for the reply! My assumption was to use a handheld compass, but it is also completely theoretical as I use navigation in airplanes and not on the water and there a deviation within about 5 degrees is mostly disregarded anyway. If you can steer within 5 degrees, that's ok and 2 degrees of deviation are mostly academic.
@BFSailing3 ай бұрын
@@bastianhanschitz2839 I'm no longer current but I have a private pilots license, too. I used to fly Cessnas and Archers. Just like in flying, the compass work is obsolete. You're only ever going to use it if you have a total system failure. Most boats on the water have no idea what their compass error is anyway. You just need to know it to pass the test.
@bastianhanschitz28393 ай бұрын
@@BFSailing Same in aviation. Cool! I am a full time flight instructor and chief flight instructor training mostly future airline pilots in Germany. In Europe, the system works reversed from the US. You train for the airlines as a pedestrian, get a job at 250hrs and then at some point give back to the community by training the next generation. Most do it freelance while flying, I quit the hamster wheel when my gig went belly up in 2017. Flew 10k hours on A320 and A330.
@comesatime1233 ай бұрын
Did your inspector and sea trial catch any of these issues/modifications?
@BFSailing3 ай бұрын
Yes. He did a very good job and caught a lot of them. They never catch them all.
@billyehh3 ай бұрын
I have been sailing a 2001 Voyage 380 in the Eastern Caribbean for the last 17 years where there are lots of catamarans. It seems to me that after the 2008 financial crisis, the quality of the big 3 production cats took a big hit. Even more so is the maintenance at the charter companies. I am based in St. Lucia and am appalled at the condition of boats coming out of charter. Most of the work including fiberglass is done at the dock. Buyer beware and have a good surveyor.
@BFSailing3 ай бұрын
Billy, thanks for the comment! We love the Voyages. We think they are great, rugged boats. Congratulations on yours! The Voyages we toured were in Sopers Hole in the BVI. There is a Voyage Yacht Chartesr base there that does only Voyage Cats. They were ALL in fabulous condition even after being in bareboat charter service for over a decade. I agree with the points you make and I do think that some of our observations could be related to the maintenance programs of the charter companies but we were comparing 13 year old Voyage bareboat against 4 year old Lagoon bare boats managed by Sun Sail in Tortolla. The Voyages certainly looked older and they were more utilitarian but the condition of the surfaces and equipment on board seemed to be in much better shape than the Lagoons. It's possible that maintenance contributed to a lot of this but our gut told us that, even with good maintenance, the Voyages were in remarkable condition after 13 years of charter services. That can't be all maintenance differences, can it be?
@Steve-qn8gn3 ай бұрын
I don’t understand, you offered 290k and they accepted, then you went back with an even lower offer?
@BFSailing3 ай бұрын
After the survey, yes. We uncovered some problems with the AirCon on some other things not represented in the listing so there was room to ask for a further adjustment.
@user-bl4hb1bq9t3 ай бұрын
Don't worry, carry a pistol!
@PA967044 ай бұрын
I have 120k for a Cat and get $1500 a month residual income. Do you think I can afford it? Should I look at something around 80k or spend the whole 120k? I lived on a mono and retired Coast Guard so I can do fiberglass, electrical, and mechanical. I am looking at everything under 40' like a PDQ, Dean, Gemini, Fountaine, Admiral, Edel.. Every one that standing rigging and running rigging has been done are around $150k. I want to go around Asia and surf so shallow draft is key for me. Let me what route should I take. Mahalo,
@BFSailing3 ай бұрын
Thank you for the comment! I don't know if I can answer for you. It depends upon so many things and many of things are things about YOU and how you want to use the boat, where you want to keep the boat, how handy you are with fixing things, and what your tolerance for things not being perfect on the boat are. I can say this, if you have a high tolerance for things not being ideal about your boat AND you plan on keeping the boat on the move and out of marinas and expensive environments then you can keep relatively little cash in reserve. The boat needs solid standing and running rigging, a solid main sail and head sail, and it needs to keep water out reliably. If you have those things, you can sail the world on any budget. It's just a question of how fast you'll go and what level of comfort you will live in. People will debate all day long about what must be done to a boat and what you should have on your boat before you set out on your adventure. You won't get that advice from me because the only person that knows what you really need is you. Don't let cautionary tales from others scare you off from breaking free. Good luck!
@gregharding73294 ай бұрын
Breaking free, I have not heard so much excretement and lagoon bagging for so long. So you had a "FEELING" that Lagoon was not the boat for you. Wow such factual detail. The boat you were on was a charter boat, you said yourself many of the issues were ones of maintenance, Fory crying out loud, many many charter companies are renowned for failure to maintain their fleet. In regard to water ingress, you are only guessing how this may have occurred. Once again they are a charter boat, no one, particularly the charterer's care if water gets in the boat - why - because its not theirs. Agree that I would not have a 4 head boat,it is not needed but they can be converted to storage and laundries. Finally if you are going to make these types of videos here's something you may want to consider, facts. I have owned two Lagoons, both were not perfect but I would go back to one in a heartbeat and have sailed many of thousands of miles in them in all conditions.
@BFSailing3 ай бұрын
Greg, thanks for you comment, even if you might not agree with our preferences. I even agreed with your observations about the nature of charter vessels until we got on some Voyage charter vessels that had been in bare boat service for over a decade and they did not have the wear and tear that our chartered 4 year old Lagoons had. They Voyages definitely looked older because they were 13 years old and chartered their whole life....but they were still in better condition then the Lagoons. How would you explain that? Do people that bareboat charter Voyage yachts feel compelled to take better care of the boat they don't own than the people who charter Lagoons?? I am glad you like your Lagoon and you are sailing. I hope you are enjoying the water, I truly do. They are not for us. We would choose a Voyage and would have if there was one we could afford on the market when we purchased.
@ksmith83604 ай бұрын
I love my people, but I wouldn't go there and I grew up in San Juan. But if you decide to go, Remember... play stupid games you'll get stupid prizes. If cops don't go there, and locals don't go there... why would you? There are a million beautiful things to explore in PR. I would suggest you go to those instead.
@BFSailing4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the comment! If we knew before hand we probably would not have gone. However, it was a good experience to have and we certainly saw some beauty in the community. We're glad we went. We won't go back.
@clintontaylor89046 ай бұрын
I keep a slip at blackhawk boatyard in bayfield for my 26ft sailboat. Best sailing grounds in the country and love hiking the islands
@BFSailing4 ай бұрын
It was certainly worth our trip up. Thanks for the comment!
@adventureswithryan54747 ай бұрын
Great video!
@adventureswithryan54747 ай бұрын
Thanks for the boat breakdown!
@adventureswithryan54747 ай бұрын
Another good video
@adventureswithryan54747 ай бұрын
Thanks for the boat breakdown!
@adventureswithryan54747 ай бұрын
Good underwater video!
@adventureswithryan54747 ай бұрын
I love the done work!
@adventureswithryan54747 ай бұрын
Drone!
@adventureswithryan54747 ай бұрын
Super cool!
@adventureswithryan54747 ай бұрын
Great video!
@adventureswithryan54747 ай бұрын
Rob does a great job breaking down this super tricky part of boating. I had the pleasure of meeting this couple and they are extremely nice and helpful. They went out of their way to help me out and I really appreciate their kindness. Please follow these guys to help support them. They are a small channel that needs your love. Thanks again Rob and Emily for your kindness!
@UUBrahman7 ай бұрын
If you decide you want more toilets, given the aluminum tanks, the composting style toilet seems the logical way to go. Nice to have a dedicated shower space.
@BFSailing4 ай бұрын
Yes! It's a conundrum. It's not bad having one of each. Not sure why we can't seem to make a good marine head system. It always seems to be the worst part of a boat.
@brettbatchelor32057 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing. We are about 9 months away from our purchace. 10% seems far for an offer.
@BFSailing4 ай бұрын
Be a little braver! You can always come up ini price if they say no.
@gabrielvanschalkwyk37827 ай бұрын
Great video, if I may, I would not replace the engines, I myself would rather go electric, it's a high cost once off and in the long run it pays for it self. But you have a lot of problems, noting that you cant handle, May you have some great sailing.
@laurapitre57973 ай бұрын
Buy a paddle if you're going electric!
@TheStealthbob7 ай бұрын
What a reality check...adjusted expectations for sure
@BFSailing4 ай бұрын
Don't be discouraged. Your boat that is right for you is out there and you will love it when you're sitting on anchor at some fabulous place.
@TheStealthbob4 ай бұрын
@@BFSailing Thanks for that, I retire at 60 in 8 years. Plan is to refresh my sailing skills this summer with some lessons, then charter day trips on a mono for a couple of years. If that sticks may buy a mono. If that sticks will take captain lessons in the bahamas and then on retirement get serious about a Cat. Baby steps tho...
@thejp67137 ай бұрын
Appricate the info and vid!
@petercueter52127 ай бұрын
Glad to see that you have broken free of the land life! Keep on sailing!
@BFSailing7 ай бұрын
Come join us soon!
@MichaelCGrumley19 ай бұрын
Great video!
@fisherman58459 ай бұрын
If you don't have the money to pay cash you can't afford it most people that think there going to sail the rest of there life get there ass handed to them
@BFSailing4 ай бұрын
I try never to assume what someone's situation might be. There might be reasons, like the one we considered when we tried for financing. Sometimes borrowing money is a short term thing to help with cash flow for a few years until new funding becomes available.....like retirement funds.
@baronwichern70829 ай бұрын
🙏 'Promosm'
@mics16949 ай бұрын
I can't afford a catamaran, going the sailboat route. Don't want to be in debt. Maybe someday, but not going to wait for that day.
@BFSailing4 ай бұрын
Love that you don't want to be in debt! Break free from all of those ties.
@djonenonly83819 ай бұрын
glad u enjoyed the community i am there all the time
@music-jj2pl9 ай бұрын
Any regrets on selling the house? I was thinking more turn it into an airbnb. that way I have a place to stay buy "renting" my own house when there is a break. Also, maybe after a year sometime i don't like it as much as i thought and go back to day sailing without getting priced out of the housing market.
@BFSailing4 ай бұрын
So.....five months later and we have Zero regrets.....we are trying to figure out how to eliminate the rest of our land ties.
@whitec599 ай бұрын
OMG I just watches the Truman Show and those clouds on the water look "fake" haha
@jeffrobnc19719 ай бұрын
Buy a small boat that you can afford with on-hand cash. Learn to sail in that boat and make sure you love this hobby. If you do love the hobby, save some money as you learn to sail better in your small boat. Once you've saved up some cash, sell the small boat and buy a slightly bigger boat. Lather, rinse, repeat....
@MVLadyLiselot9 ай бұрын
Over here in The Netherlands, the mortgages on (Sail- and Motor-) boats ended beginning 2000's and loans for (Sail- and Motor-) boats are hardly approved. So, one need cash to buy a boat and man do we have marina's full of boats hardly moving out their berth...
@KB_OMeara9 ай бұрын
Looks like a money pit to me. Literally everywhere you look, something needs work/refit.
@BFSailing4 ай бұрын
True. It's a lot like the house I lived in. Except the repairs on the house were WAY more expensive.
@garysmothers32349 ай бұрын
I couldn't agree more with the buy now and what you can afford. Paying cash is generally always better if possible. I would however say that the one type of loan that might make sense for the few people that have this available to them is a whole life insurance loan.
@user-fk7sb2gf1z9 ай бұрын
You are awesome
@hhazelhoff13639 ай бұрын
Buy cash and don’t insure.
@JohnSmith-dj5gf9 ай бұрын
If it flies, floats, or F’s, just rent it.
@CapCityDC9 ай бұрын
Great info and appreciate the cold hard truth of financing, not talked enough about on so many KZbinr sailing/cruising channels.
@AdamGuild9 ай бұрын
Great video.
@maschwerer9 ай бұрын
Cool layout. Unfamiliar with this manufacturer, so difficult to say. Price feels a bit high for the amount of refit required. I wouldn’t look at a Lagoon due to structural failures in their 50+ foot hulls.
@winstonsmith40039 ай бұрын
Now that I’m debt free, listening to this makes me realize how stupid I’ve been my entire adult life and the fortune I’ve given up to the bankers. And the boats I’ve financed over the years. On an asset that depreciates faster than an anchor being deployed in 300’ water. I’m finally able to buy a boat without a loan and it is so liberating