Alt Cunningham tells us straight up - "the name fully reflects the essence." Soulkiller - it kills the Soul, while creating a Xerox of the persons mind. Functionally it kills off both the Soul and the mind, as it doesn't transfer the consciousness, it just copies it. There's bound to be errors, and there's evidence of this as most of Silverhands memories are completely distorted. An engram is essentially just a digitized golem trapped in a virtual prison until housed in a proper carrier. In V's case, her Soul ceased to be a part of her when DeShawn plugged her. While she may still be retaining her personality for a bit, she was full-on Soulkilled after the heist and is slowly turning into a golem of Silverhand. The Engram may have most of Johnny's mannerisms, figures of speech, a collection of memories, but it definitely ain't Johnny. The easiest way to think about it is if it's an Engram, it is 100% removed from God. Now, as far as the philosophical aspects of Soulkiller - does it permanently remove the Soul from the entirety of existence, or does it just give it a quick off-ramp back to the spirit realm? If the former, that is a terrifying proposition for science and mankind. The Soul is supposed to be everlasting, a collection of experiences and knowledge gained from multiple physical existences in the bid to reach Nirvana, Heaven, or wherever the final destination is. To have that put in the hands of man is unfathomable hubris.

@@AndrewWilson1991 Exactly. If you make a copy of a person’s consciousness, are they really even the same person? If not, what differentiates them from the person they were copied from?

@@AndrewWilson1991 It's just a Ship of Theseus problem. The same ship, but with pieces of it replaced as it is repaired. Johnny could've had his redemption arc while he was alive and that'd still be a different person than he was before. Or he could've slipped and hit his head and woke up with a different personality. The take away lesson isn't that the engram is a "fake" or literally killing an actual soul. The point is that the soul doesn't really exist. It's an abstract concept. The Soulkiller and Relic programs just drive this point home. If the whole thing makes you confused and angry and results in your internal monologue making incoherent screeching chimpanzee noises, well, yeah, it's supposed to. Because you're just looking at _death._ It's what Johnny was feeling when you visit where his body is supposed to be buried. Johnny is a flawed record of the past. But that's more than most of us ever get after death. We live on only in memories, photos and stuff like that. And most of us aren't going to be famous enough to even have more than a name recorded somewhere in an old obit, government record or a gravestone. A few generations out and there won't be living grandchildren who really remember the stories their parents told about you. And even that's kind of fuzzy at best. Silverhand is more of a symbol of terrorism than anything by the time the game takes place. The impermanence of your identity, of your person is just how things work. The overwhelming majority of religions and philosophical systems fail miserably at actually dealing with death. And the notion that meaning isn't actually a real thing. The thoughts in your head aren't real either. They're all fleeting abstractions. And so, the vast majority of these give fake answers or fictional ones. Or bad advice. Buddhism's answer is a _recognition_ of this dissatisfying impermanence, but it errs in that it believes the goal of life is to escape an alleged cycle of reincarnation into oblivion. Reincarnation, far from a pleasant bonus, was more conceived as a kind of death of identity. Having a soul here is no consolation prize, because this substance never has a firm sense of persistent identity between lives. Being a prince in one life has it upsides, but the trouble is, none of that carries with you when you're a slave in the next. The how isn't interesting, and neither are the theological specifics, only that its core mythology believes the world is a certain way and the escape should be possible from an eternity of dealing with this impermanence. You already are familiarity with Christianity's story, so I won't bore you with that. It's lamer in that it thinks there is such a thing as a fixed meaning, a definite purpose and a permanent soul. But believers rarely discuss what it really means to be "close to God" or what heaven would be like and if you'd even be a same person, if you could be called such a thing, once you got there. Most people just imagine they're just hanging out in a retirement club up in the clouds. You know I'm not lying and that I'm 100% correct, because how could Alt really program a literal death of the soul? Nonsensical. It's a metaphorical flourish, nothing more. She made a very convincing scan and replica and that's all there is. But every act of translation is also a small act of remaking and destruction. Simply being a program that could grow into a powerful rogue AI on the net would already need to erode your old identity. What's the point of your former sex or your old relationships when you can look at other people's memories and alter your own code? Every conversation where Johnny tries to communicate with the rogue AI Alt comes up short and unsatisfying to him. Because it must. Alt is saying a lot by omission. She can't accept Johnny's preloaded assumptions about the soul or fixed identity or a shared past -- because those concepts are artificial. And are all the more so now that she's a machine intelligence. This is what Johnny is telling you when you debate whether or not to take his body or go with Alt. He can start to accept being a lifeform like Alt, simply because he's been an engram inside your head long enough to take that next step. I treat the engram of Johnny as a person and a moral agent, because he is self-aware and has emotions. The question of whether he is the real Johnny is irrelevant, as he still has a potential positive impact in the world by closing out the affairs of the mortal Silverhand that died. And, for all it's worth, in most of the endings, Johnny finally does real damage to Arasaka while giving real closure to old friends. It may help to think of him as a vengeful ghost, if it helps, but even that is only a metaphor. Yorinobu roasts the Arasaka board of directors. They're all scared of a talking voice of a dead man from a box. Idiocy. The dead emperor doesn't have power unless his underlings perceive that he does. That, above all else, is what Yorinobu hated. That the illusion of that particular soul was enough to terrorize Arasaka and the world into obedience.

Hey! That’s actually really cool)) I’m glad to be any helpful☺️ you gonna publish it somewhere? Would be nice to read)

Trust me-this saves your psyche from witnessing my eye bags😂

Well it’s kinda impossible to talk about the philosophy of a game without mentioning the plot and genre, right?😅

Двум смертям не бывать, а одной не миновать👹

Hi! Thanks a lot for your feedback) I study Law, wbu?

Wow what a negative outlook. The game has great mechanics and it got better after the perk overhaul.

I enjoyed the mechanics first, then came to appreciate the world. Straight up had so much fun killing and fighting I didn't pay attention but it was a trear on my second playthrough

Sikeeee, gameplay feels amazing. Truly feels like you can be a cyberpunk

They do have a lot of old source material but I totally agree, it is a lot different than the TTRPG but borrows so many good elements and made a good foundation for things to come ❤

Hey! Like I said in the video-the philosophical/religious/political messages are literally everywhere 😂 I could cover all of them in one video, but it would take 4 hours for you to watch and 2 months for me to make))

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Thank you 🤩

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Always wanted to go to UK. Where are you from?)

Like which area😂

Thank you) well this vid was from the time the channel was started. I hope there are some quality improvements in the new ones

he was talking like this was a universal truth, literally more than 70% of people are in a shit situation that is completely outside of their control. The way this guy built his way of thinking is extremely idealistic and based in a non realistic world. You can't speak like something is universally true when it doesn't apply for literally most of the world. Oh also why did u delete your reply to me?

Also I would like to say that I mostly agree with the second half of his video, but the beginning was just such bs that has never applied to the world at all. Those are just the words of those at the top that are afraid to lose that spot and in turn ruining even more lives by enslaving and war.

how is faith in God a natural need? that might be a need of yours but it's not a natural need for a lot of people.

Without God life is nothing 🙏 Jesus is Lord

@@gavrilopetkovic7054 If you follow atheism to it's logical conclusion you'll understand why. Postmodernism, nihilism and marxism all goes against human nature.

@@viggokallman1649 elaborate, your statement makes no sense, God is something invented by people to cope with their situation. Also I'm not atheist, I'm agnostic, I belive there is something but I also belive that it's foolish of humans to think that we're the center of attention and that we can even begin to comprehend what that higher power is.

@@gavrilopetkovic7054 Sure. Atheism has no objective moral standard in of itself as religion has, that's a reason why Stalin and Mao where atheists for example, they had no moral restrain for the things they did. You decide for yourself what's morally important or not ie subjectivism. The identity of the atheist is that of "self-relation" it's primarily grounded in their own perception and relation to themselves sincce they hold a subjective view of the world and that leaves out the very crucial "otherness" that is necessary to form a cohesive identity. Self-relation is problematic because it causes fragmentation and self-division, lacking recognition of external influences on identity. It offers a narrow view of the self, ignoring the communal nature of human existence. I believe it's a key reason why so many are turning mad in todays society since this ontology is spreading like wildfire across the world.

weak children shit tragic

But you are not those children. This video is for everyone to do what they can

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@@shuji558 that is irrelevant, the way he speaks, he makes it sound like it's a universal truth, especially the part with slaves. those people were born into a shit situation that they had 0 control over. Just like a lot of people today. This guy's world view is extremely limited

​@@gavrilopetkovic7054I agree with your statement on children, partially. Lets first dive into the slaves. Yes, there were people born into slavery, ultimately not having a choice. However, the video introduces the topic of slavery via the act of enslaving, not being born into slavery. This changes the foundation of the argument, and gives it a true (though blunt) meaning: One was stronger, one was weaker. The weaker one got enslaved. The fact of being born into slavery brings me to the part where I partially agree with you. Children; ultimately, during wars or enslavement they dont really stand a chance. However, as the coverage during the video about this topic is limited to none, I believe a seperate statement about cases like this are to be made which would fall outside of the target of this video. Yes, he generalizes to make a point, think for yourself: does this POV make sense on certain age, ethical or demographics? It, to me, doesn't.

80kg

100 on good days. You?

​@@solinvictus452Nice, me 50kg each side for reps

​@@solinvictus452 nice,120kg for reps

The normie is

bro didn't feel the need to make an actual sentence💀​@@johanjolif8272

Never watched it though. Is it good?)

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