Well... I just installed a "Radar 195/65R16" car tire on my 2003 Goldwing. It was tight but got it in place without any prying tools. Looks good too. Also installed Eco beads for balancing.

Using a car tire on a motorcycle is dangerous and can lead to death.

This is basically the perfect video. Short and to the point. I've been considering going darkside on my chopper because I'm just too broke right now to buy a motorcycle tire and a car tire is like half of the price. I don't need any real cornering performance because I live in Florida and all of our roads are straight. I end up wearing out the middle of the tire with a ton of tread left over on the edges.

I wanna do the same to my C109R. Can you please inform which k & n filter you bought. I mean the product number that will fits exactly like yours.

The sky is falling!

Mate where'd you get the highway bars from?

I would love to see a website where I can type in the size of my motorcycle tire and do a search for a list of matching car tires for my bike.

A motorcycles contact patch stays consistent and predictable. Also the equation for friction (traction) does not include surface area, so by running a car tire with a harder compound that's meant for a heavier vehicle you are lowering the only two variables used to calculate friction values. It's worse in every way possible.

I wish I could find a dark side tire for my 18” rims that will clear my fender on my 19 Riad king special

I see no mention of tire pressures and how they impact handling, MPG, and tire life in this application?

A narrow tire leans easier as far as load u can only load wat suspension allows before breaking stuff plus a softer bike tire ride better noway a stiff car tire can ride good

Is this on a boulevard if so what size tire are you running

An FYI that no-one ever mentions, in the hope of preventing anyone from a mishap! Increased mileage means not removing rear wheel as often, means less inspections of belt/chain, bearings, brakes etc! After changing my last car tyre @30,000kms I found 1of 2 rear wheel bearings dangerously worn out! I now intend to remove the wheel 1/2 way through the life of the tyre purely for inspection & maintenance! Ride safe! Ric, Double dark on 2012 Roadking

He'll were famous now lol

Been doing lots of research see why so many people are going dark side people making long miles on heavy bikes we are being ripped off by MC tower companies Ludacris high prices no mileage I can see why certain riders repeat certain riders going dark side have not as of yet but sure will in future

Thanks for this explanations. Tire with symmetrical designs, I immediately looked for this type of tire, I find it super logical, we want to be sure of the same behavior in curves, left and right. I still have 2 questions... When we are at a standstill, does it hold its balance better? For maneuvers, is it easier or not?

Not sure if its been said before, but larger contact patch should also burn more gas. I have a 2000 Valkyrie and have been following this dark side too. The way I see it, it’s gas usage verses tire wear. Have also read that some tires raise the bike up when cornering (or at least it feels that way), something you get used to. I’m sure I will try it, but will also be tracking gas usage on regular ride roads. Not sure this will be a good test but I’ll see…

I have motorcycle tires on my bike But your video with the car tire in the curves looks damn near flat or really under inflated just saying HEY ☝️ before you start remember I have motorcycle tires on my bike

If you drive straight and don't care about going fast in curves I don't see a problem. M/C tires are a ripoff and pain in the ass replacing often.

Hello everyone... Can someone tell me what would be the recommended size of car tire for a classic Vulcan 900 that comes with a 180/70-15 rear tire from factory?... Your answer would be very helpful. Thanks so much

Great camera work. The Boss Hoss motorcycles used car tires for several years before a motorcycle tire was manufactured that was large enough. I never had any problems with it with 355 HP and 385 lb ft torque. I had more torque at 1500 rpm than any street bike makes at any rpm, and no slippage Yes, we also used car rims, but we are at decent lean angles with 1000 lbs plus my fat ass pushing down on it. I think with a quality tire it will work fine.

Lot more braking power to with all that rubber on the road I stopped using my front brake unless using it at a light to hold myself still or I need to really get load up in a big hurry then I use it so it's really saving the front tire I love my car tire on the back of my Nomad and I'll never go back this is my third one

this is really interesting, ive seen it hotly debated but this is the first actual footage ive seen, great job

Why would anyone ride a HD prone to death wobble?

I have several darkside videos on my BMW 1600GT. I ride hard in the mountains of Utah and you simply can't tell a difference above about 30 MPH. I've been a high performance driving instructor for BMW, Porsche, Ferrari and other groups for over 30 years, as well as being a licensed MSF RiderCoach. It really is a wonderfully simple solution to 3000 mile rear tire life, as the K1600 rips 160 HP and 129 lb ft of torque. Great camera angle btw! Might need to make another film in the spring, as I have 2 K1600s, one Darkside and one not. Follow along if you're interested! kzbin.info/www/bejne/nquanXeKncdsq7s

i think motorcycle tires are better engineered. and for myself, i would never buy tires from manufacturers who also make car tires i had experience with Metzeler and Dunlop, and i can say that Metzeler are way better tires than Dunlop (who also make car tires) Metzeler on the other hand has a more uniform wear on tires compared with Dunlop on Dunlop tires: rear tire wear faster than the front and middle than the sides, when Metzeler tires just wear uniformly.

After riding did it still feel balanced. I want to try this. That’s how I found this video. Thanks!

What a legend one handing !

Amazing video , thank u so much. Can anyone help me figure out what size of a car tyre to use on my Suzuki 2008 dl650?thank u much

This likely means we need better designed motorcycle tires. That's a lot of contact patch to leave on the table. And honestly, we need it more than cars do.

Ric, great stuff, I agree started 30 years ago. That Ian guy is a real good example of what not to be. A turnip... Nobody likes Turnips!! Especially uneducated Turnips, Socially retarded Turnips and anyone against forwarding Biker life in general. Mabey someday he can come over and help rather than click bait. Until then keep running dark and if the posers comment negative, most are still on daddy's wallet. The others just don't bike. They own them, talk about them, clean them but no bugs in the teeth... right... wana- bee... don't be an Ian. Don't say stupid stuff to get responses. Such a fail.... Safe riding Brother and Sisters!!!

What an awesome description of the pros and cons of running a darkside tire! After similar research of the "darkside", I went with the popular, at the time, Goodyear Triple Tread on my '07 VTX 1800T IN 2012 and it lasted till 2019 with 54,000 kms approx. Went back to Metzler 888's till this year...approx 10,500 kms. I am now trying the Hankook Kinergy GT darkside with an Excedra G701 for the front. Also trying dynabeads in both, 3oz for the rear and 1oz for front. Come to the darkside!!

I glued the filters in place with SIKAFLEX... 10 years ago

What type of bike is this the rim looks lit like mine I'm haveing a time getting the tire to set on rim

Insane....................!!!! Enjoy the dark side. I will stay on a bright side.

I'm not sure why people talk about contact patch size. It has nothing to do with traction. What a larger patch size does is cause hydroplaning and that's all it does.

Brilliant video, what was recommended tire pressure for your MC Tire, and what did you run Darkside? I’m running about 35-36 and I feel my tire is flattening out too much, but it’s probably just me not used to it yet.

All the Darkseid haters forget...... ALL the first motorcycles had CAR tires.... And if you don't ride hard, or a crotch rocket... rear dark is perfect for land couches... even ones riden aggressively, think not go KZbin the yellow gl1800 that embarrasses a sport bike at the tail of the dragon.... spoiler alert, he runs darkside....

Man on KZbin knows better than: Michelin, Pirelli, Dunlop etc. as well as Honda, Yamaha etc.

Try that on a Real motorcycle, - one that actually goes around corners, instead of the tractor you are using, and see what happens.

It's a dumb idea. Just buy the right tire. Millions are spent on R&D, and car and bike tires have two entirely different purposes and handling characteristics... I think you guys just like being in "the club" and feeling like you are pulling one over on "the man"... I guarantee that none of you doing this are fast riders... I guess if you just ride your cruisers and tourers in straight lines on the interstate... Me, I can afford the correct tires...

If you ride a shitty Harley on freeways and corner like you're in a shopping cart then, a car tire might be for you! Every motorcycle manufacturer on planet Earth is laughing at this stupidity

which tire would you recomend..... 2002 vtx 1800c...thanks...great vid !

What's the tire pressure?

Motorcycles will actually get a flat spot after a few thousand miles.

Does your insurance and liability still apply when you’re using automobile tires on a motorcycle? Also, you are operating under the premise that a motorcycle doesn’t have a sufficient tire contact area, and therefore a variably oversized area is desirable. Why do you think the beads and sidewalls are so different between car tires and motorcycle tires?

Try to comprehend what Ryan explains: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nna9loVveph9r7s No, really, even if you have to get someone to explain it to you. Which one suspects would be the case.

Kudos rick for such a thorough and balanced discussion of this hotly debated subject......more hotly debated by the naysayers who have never researched the subject, or are just plain ignorantly biased against it based on theory. The clincher was the side-by-side comparisons of contact patches at different lean angles.

BEST THING I EVER DID TO ALL MY BIKES AND SCOOTER.