Well... I just installed a "Radar 195/65R16" car tire on my 2003 Goldwing. It was tight but got it in place without any prying tools. Looks good too. Also installed Eco beads for balancing.
@willedwards7009Ай бұрын
Using a car tire on a motorcycle is dangerous and can lead to death.
@beverlyhurd855626 күн бұрын
Oh BS. Who told you that idiot lie? And you _believed_ them?? That's sad.
@DarksideSleemoАй бұрын
This is basically the perfect video. Short and to the point. I've been considering going darkside on my chopper because I'm just too broke right now to buy a motorcycle tire and a car tire is like half of the price. I don't need any real cornering performance because I live in Florida and all of our roads are straight. I end up wearing out the middle of the tire with a ton of tread left over on the edges.
@rupindersingh52955 ай бұрын
I wanna do the same to my C109R. Can you please inform which k & n filter you bought. I mean the product number that will fits exactly like yours.
@Cl3VER63 ай бұрын
It’s k&n bm 8006 .you need 2 of them .
@macplus33395 ай бұрын
The sky is falling!
@hades05727 ай бұрын
Mate where'd you get the highway bars from?
@Jonathan-L9 ай бұрын
I would love to see a website where I can type in the size of my motorcycle tire and do a search for a list of matching car tires for my bike.
@felixkroeber176911 ай бұрын
A motorcycles contact patch stays consistent and predictable. Also the equation for friction (traction) does not include surface area, so by running a car tire with a harder compound that's meant for a heavier vehicle you are lowering the only two variables used to calculate friction values. It's worse in every way possible.
@beverlyhurd85563 ай бұрын
Anyone that makes the oh so ridiculous claim that running a proper car tire on the back of certain motorcycles as being "worse in every way possible" has done nothing more than to prove how ignorant they are about darksiding.
@goranslava843 Жыл бұрын
I wish I could find a dark side tire for my 18” rims that will clear my fender on my 19 Riad king special
@jordanblair5410 Жыл бұрын
I see no mention of tire pressures and how they impact handling, MPG, and tire life in this application?
@corneilcorneil Жыл бұрын
Google a bit?
@tonyrhoton6613 Жыл бұрын
A narrow tire leans easier as far as load u can only load wat suspension allows before breaking stuff plus a softer bike tire ride better noway a stiff car tire can ride good
@corneilcorneil Жыл бұрын
What is your riding experience? And how "stiff" is a car tire? All depends on temperature, compound and tire pressure, not? Search the upload about car tire sidewall flex and you will understand it better. People who have no experience better ask questions, rater than see their assumptions as facts.
@junior301979 Жыл бұрын
Is this on a boulevard if so what size tire are you running
@richardstalenberg7669 Жыл бұрын
An FYI that no-one ever mentions, in the hope of preventing anyone from a mishap! Increased mileage means not removing rear wheel as often, means less inspections of belt/chain, bearings, brakes etc! After changing my last car tyre @30,000kms I found 1of 2 rear wheel bearings dangerously worn out! I now intend to remove the wheel 1/2 way through the life of the tyre purely for inspection & maintenance! Ride safe! Ric, Double dark on 2012 Roadking
@packrat612 жыл бұрын
He'll were famous now lol
@jimwortham86342 жыл бұрын
Been doing lots of research see why so many people are going dark side people making long miles on heavy bikes we are being ripped off by MC tower companies Ludacris high prices no mileage I can see why certain riders repeat certain riders going dark side have not as of yet but sure will in future
@AlainMazy2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this explanations. Tire with symmetrical designs, I immediately looked for this type of tire, I find it super logical, we want to be sure of the same behavior in curves, left and right. I still have 2 questions... When we are at a standstill, does it hold its balance better? For maneuvers, is it easier or not?
@masonhawk11072 жыл бұрын
Not sure if its been said before, but larger contact patch should also burn more gas. I have a 2000 Valkyrie and have been following this dark side too. The way I see it, it’s gas usage verses tire wear. Have also read that some tires raise the bike up when cornering (or at least it feels that way), something you get used to. I’m sure I will try it, but will also be tracking gas usage on regular ride roads. Not sure this will be a good test but I’ll see…
@mikedunn20222 жыл бұрын
I have motorcycle tires on my bike But your video with the car tire in the curves looks damn near flat or really under inflated just saying HEY ☝️ before you start remember I have motorcycle tires on my bike
@stoundingresults2 жыл бұрын
If you drive straight and don't care about going fast in curves I don't see a problem. M/C tires are a ripoff and pain in the ass replacing often.
@uomo30472 жыл бұрын
Hello everyone... Can someone tell me what would be the recommended size of car tire for a classic Vulcan 900 that comes with a 180/70-15 rear tire from factory?... Your answer would be very helpful. Thanks so much
@BrandonWest87 Жыл бұрын
Likely a 175/70-15.
@corneilcorneil Жыл бұрын
I have a 195/65-15 and a 205/65-15 just because i like overkill. For a comfy ride, go for a 185/70
@97irishflyer2 жыл бұрын
Great camera work. The Boss Hoss motorcycles used car tires for several years before a motorcycle tire was manufactured that was large enough. I never had any problems with it with 355 HP and 385 lb ft torque. I had more torque at 1500 rpm than any street bike makes at any rpm, and no slippage Yes, we also used car rims, but we are at decent lean angles with 1000 lbs plus my fat ass pushing down on it. I think with a quality tire it will work fine.
@danielhanson43262 жыл бұрын
Lot more braking power to with all that rubber on the road I stopped using my front brake unless using it at a light to hold myself still or I need to really get load up in a big hurry then I use it so it's really saving the front tire I love my car tire on the back of my Nomad and I'll never go back this is my third one
@0ldGuy2 жыл бұрын
this is really interesting, ive seen it hotly debated but this is the first actual footage ive seen, great job
@33602742 жыл бұрын
Why would anyone ride a HD prone to death wobble?
@JayBearjaysbigadventure2 жыл бұрын
I have several darkside videos on my BMW 1600GT. I ride hard in the mountains of Utah and you simply can't tell a difference above about 30 MPH. I've been a high performance driving instructor for BMW, Porsche, Ferrari and other groups for over 30 years, as well as being a licensed MSF RiderCoach. It really is a wonderfully simple solution to 3000 mile rear tire life, as the K1600 rips 160 HP and 129 lb ft of torque. Great camera angle btw! Might need to make another film in the spring, as I have 2 K1600s, one Darkside and one not. Follow along if you're interested! kzbin.info/www/bejne/nquanXeKncdsq7s
@97irishflyer2 жыл бұрын
How dare you use physics to show it can work!..;-)
@BMWGSAKERBER Жыл бұрын
Here are the FNG questions: a) This is a rear tire solution, not a front and rear tire solution? b) Any insurance issues if there's an accident, could insurance claim be denied claiming because you weren't running a motorcycle tire vs car tire, and c) same question about bike a warranty, I still have about a year left on the my warranty, but hate to save $100 trying out a new tire set up and then have an issue and BMW claims it was due to running a car tire. I want to put this on my BMW r1250GSA next spring since most of my riding has been 1-4 hour daily trips for work, 3-4 days a week. Thanks for all the tips.
@ManitouCat972 жыл бұрын
i think motorcycle tires are better engineered. and for myself, i would never buy tires from manufacturers who also make car tires i had experience with Metzeler and Dunlop, and i can say that Metzeler are way better tires than Dunlop (who also make car tires) Metzeler on the other hand has a more uniform wear on tires compared with Dunlop on Dunlop tires: rear tire wear faster than the front and middle than the sides, when Metzeler tires just wear uniformly.
@vinivicci12 жыл бұрын
After riding did it still feel balanced. I want to try this. That’s how I found this video. Thanks!
@ricuhot2 жыл бұрын
Feels great. Re-ballanced after 5000kms
@GG-od2tr2 жыл бұрын
What a legend one handing !
@fred.gram67gram322 жыл бұрын
Amazing video , thank u so much. Can anyone help me figure out what size of a car tyre to use on my Suzuki 2008 dl650?thank u much
@ralphwarom25143 жыл бұрын
This likely means we need better designed motorcycle tires. That's a lot of contact patch to leave on the table. And honestly, we need it more than cars do.
@braddavis28343 жыл бұрын
Ric, great stuff, I agree started 30 years ago. That Ian guy is a real good example of what not to be. A turnip... Nobody likes Turnips!! Especially uneducated Turnips, Socially retarded Turnips and anyone against forwarding Biker life in general. Mabey someday he can come over and help rather than click bait. Until then keep running dark and if the posers comment negative, most are still on daddy's wallet. The others just don't bike. They own them, talk about them, clean them but no bugs in the teeth... right... wana- bee... don't be an Ian. Don't say stupid stuff to get responses. Such a fail.... Safe riding Brother and Sisters!!!
@KRASHVAN3 жыл бұрын
What an awesome description of the pros and cons of running a darkside tire! After similar research of the "darkside", I went with the popular, at the time, Goodyear Triple Tread on my '07 VTX 1800T IN 2012 and it lasted till 2019 with 54,000 kms approx. Went back to Metzler 888's till this year...approx 10,500 kms. I am now trying the Hankook Kinergy GT darkside with an Excedra G701 for the front. Also trying dynabeads in both, 3oz for the rear and 1oz for front. Come to the darkside!!
@andreasd.85113 жыл бұрын
I glued the filters in place with SIKAFLEX... 10 years ago
@stevenation91573 жыл бұрын
What type of bike is this the rim looks lit like mine I'm haveing a time getting the tire to set on rim
@dougfresh13412 жыл бұрын
Use tire slip sealer. And when you start to air it up don’t quit until it seats. My last tire seated at 33psi with slip. Run flat tire seater at 70psi. But I didn’t like the run flat at all.
@alp37813 жыл бұрын
Insane....................!!!! Enjoy the dark side. I will stay on a bright side.
@RoadKing05FLHR3 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure why people talk about contact patch size. It has nothing to do with traction. What a larger patch size does is cause hydroplaning and that's all it does.
@bamabiker3 жыл бұрын
more contact on the road equals more traction......you obviously have no common sense. why do ya think dragsters and race cars have wide tires🤔
@RoadKing05FLHR3 жыл бұрын
@BAMABIKER for proof look at a car tire vs a motorcycle tire. Boom! Your bike is not a dragster or a car. Racing motorcycle tires have a round profile. Car tires are made for cars. Also I doubt you even running $600 car tires so why campare those to the cheap tires you use? Kind of a bait and switch there. Nobody racing a motorcycle on a road track uses a car tire. It's not even allowed. Common sense is lacking on your end. Common sense should tell you to use scientific knowledge and not common sense. That's how common sense works.
@markdulmage21522 жыл бұрын
No one is racing a 900 lbs cruiser in Moro gp so that argument is out the window
@matthewHizzle3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video, what was recommended tire pressure for your MC Tire, and what did you run Darkside? I’m running about 35-36 and I feel my tire is flattening out too much, but it’s probably just me not used to it yet.
@BrandonWest87 Жыл бұрын
I run a General Altimax RT45 on my 21 Goldwing at 50psi. I dabbled in 5 psi increments starting at 35. Felt squirrelly when accelerating while leaned until I hit 50.
@taomicioli3 жыл бұрын
All the Darkseid haters forget...... ALL the first motorcycles had CAR tires.... And if you don't ride hard, or a crotch rocket... rear dark is perfect for land couches... even ones riden aggressively, think not go KZbin the yellow gl1800 that embarrasses a sport bike at the tail of the dragon.... spoiler alert, he runs darkside....
@davetrousers3 жыл бұрын
Man on KZbin knows better than: Michelin, Pirelli, Dunlop etc. as well as Honda, Yamaha etc.
@melclark10663 жыл бұрын
Try that on a Real motorcycle, - one that actually goes around corners, instead of the tractor you are using, and see what happens.
@melclark10663 жыл бұрын
@@Taw19850 thank you. You obviously have a lot of experience with Stupid.
@dougfresh13412 жыл бұрын
Lol… kzbin.info/www/bejne/Zp_VfoRphtyshtE
@brandoncostner7437Ай бұрын
I had shinko 270s on my royal enfield and they have massive sidewalls similar to a car tire and it was horrifying leaning till I was riding on side wall
@joshpod00715 күн бұрын
I think with a little common sense your comment could have been avoided. It's literally people riding these "tractors" around who successfully use and enjoy darksiding. I have yet to see anyone darkside a sport bike. It works best with heavy bikes and I don't think the sport bike guys would even consider it nor is anyone saying they should. I used to think it was the Harley guys too stuck up to wave to the sporties but with comments like yours I see it may be the other way around.
@SquireSCA3 жыл бұрын
It's a dumb idea. Just buy the right tire. Millions are spent on R&D, and car and bike tires have two entirely different purposes and handling characteristics... I think you guys just like being in "the club" and feeling like you are pulling one over on "the man"... I guarantee that none of you doing this are fast riders... I guess if you just ride your cruisers and tourers in straight lines on the interstate... Me, I can afford the correct tires...
@SquireSCA2 жыл бұрын
@@jaspergross6866 He's one man. You are not him. And he is not the fastest through the Dragon. He's fast, but he isn't that fast.
@jaspergross68662 жыл бұрын
@@SquireSCA Never said I was. But his videos proves that a darksider can run the twisties as well as anyone on a mc tire.
@PTTHOR3 жыл бұрын
If you ride a shitty Harley on freeways and corner like you're in a shopping cart then, a car tire might be for you! Every motorcycle manufacturer on planet Earth is laughing at this stupidity
@gregmeeks27533 жыл бұрын
which tire would you recomend..... 2002 vtx 1800c...thanks...great vid !
@bjbowleggeddragonlincoln59593 жыл бұрын
What's the tire pressure?
@mattcero13 жыл бұрын
Motorcycles will actually get a flat spot after a few thousand miles.
@AV84USA3 жыл бұрын
Does your insurance and liability still apply when you’re using automobile tires on a motorcycle? Also, you are operating under the premise that a motorcycle doesn’t have a sufficient tire contact area, and therefore a variably oversized area is desirable. Why do you think the beads and sidewalls are so different between car tires and motorcycle tires?
4 жыл бұрын
Try to comprehend what Ryan explains: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nna9loVveph9r7s No, really, even if you have to get someone to explain it to you. Which one suspects would be the case.
@willatkinson9534 жыл бұрын
Kudos rick for such a thorough and balanced discussion of this hotly debated subject......more hotly debated by the naysayers who have never researched the subject, or are just plain ignorantly biased against it based on theory. The clincher was the side-by-side comparisons of contact patches at different lean angles.
@davetrousers3 жыл бұрын
That wasn't a clincher at all, makes no reference to compound, carcass etc.
@AIRMANBEAR4 жыл бұрын
BEST THING I EVER DID TO ALL MY BIKES AND SCOOTER.